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作者: yeung2212 時間: 13-2-1 19:35 標題: Commend on Kimbolton school / St Peter's school York / Loughborough Grammar
本帖最後由 yeung2212 於 13-2-2 16:20 編輯
My son is accepted by these three schools to study Year 10 in this Sept 2013.
Anyone can help me to choose which one is better?
作者: RDC 時間: 13-2-15 22:44
Some fd say St Peter's York would be better. My daughter also apply but get the waiting list in Yr 10.
作者: sancheng138 時間: 13-2-18 00:17
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作者: RDC 時間: 13-2-18 00:53
I also get waiting list for Yr 10, they say may waif for March of hv place.
作者: 小比一隻大 時間: 13-2-18 18:46
同樣地，my son also was put on waiting list at St. Peter York.
咁睇黎都好多人係waiting list. 😰😰😰(已知最少5-6 個）
真係好想知佢year 10,有幾多個hong kong student?
作者: sancheng138 時間: 13-2-18 23:15
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作者: dsm 時間: 13-2-19 19:25
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My son got accept by both St Peter's and LGS. We personally visited both schools and talked to the headmasters in 2011.
We have the following impressions :
LGS : Strong in academic training (curriculum delivery is tailored made for boys), students got outstanding results in public exams in general, and quite large amount goes to Ox-bridge every year (it was like 15% in 2010). The activities they offer are more boys oriented (like robot car, monster world). The boys we have seen there are polite, confident. The school is strong in nurturing leadership among boys. A boys' school indeed but with a sisters' girls school at next door, so many activities (eg. orchestra) and some subjects in high forms are co-ed. About 30 students in a class in junior forms and around 20 or less from year 10
St Peters:
Good achievements in public exam too, the environment is more relax that located in the beautiful city of York. The proportion of overseas students is low and I can say it's a typical school for English middle class children. My son entered year 7 so I am quite sure if he went to St Peter's, he will definitely become a 鬼仔 few years later. There are around 10+ in a class from year 10 (if I remember correctly). Very warmth and good caring in the boarding house.
We were struggling at that time, we finally chose LGS because of its cheaper school fees, slightly higher % in A levels A/B results and the school tends to train kids to be more independent. The Loughborough city (a boring city indeed) and is a mix of east and west so the school's population is fill up with different origins (majority British with South and East Asian and African). The ration of Chinese boarders is high too. One might think that this affecs the chance of learning English, but in fact the housemaster manage it well and even between Chinese they speak in English. My thought is this mix would make bullying and discrimination become minimal, and in fact the senior Chines boys would naturally take care the younger ones.
The boarding house was also our concern too, as in LGS junior house it is 9 boarders in a room, though the room is very large (from year 10 or 11 it is like 4 in a room). In St Peter's, it is 4 or even less in a room, and the matron in St Peter's is wonderful. Nevertheless, just before we made the final decision, LGS announced that they are going to extend the boarding house by building a new blocks so borders will have a better environment from 2013. This news let us determine the choice to be LGS.
Kimbolton is one of our shortlisted school too but not in the "top 4" of our preference, so we did not visit and not know much about it.
In my opinion, if your son is independent enough and looking for challenge in academic and extra curriculum, you go for LGS. If you want more caring and happy and relax school lives, go for St Peter's. Of course, the school fees is another issue that you might need to consider.
Hope it helps!
作者: 小比一隻大 時間: 13-2-20 22:57
thank you dsm details information.
作者: CPU1995 時間: 13-2-20 23:13 標題: 回覆：小比一隻大 的帖子
As far as I know, there is no extra tuition class for English, etc for LGS even you are willing to pay for the supplementary class.
Please correct me if I am wrong.
作者: 小比一隻大 時間: 13-2-20 23:17
Yes, CPU1995 , LGS & St. Peter both NO 英文補底班,
so that why their requirment is higher than other school.
LGS it mention the student must strong enough in English, because
they are many test.
作者: CPU1995 時間: 13-2-20 23:43 標題: 回覆：小比一隻大 的帖子
Actually my elder son had once visited St Peter's and toured around St Peter with St Peter's teachers and students for nearly 2 hours and he had a very good impression on St Peter though he commented that it appeared that ECAs of St Peter were less than other independent UK boarding schools.
作者: dsm 時間: 13-2-21 14:58
Both schools are quite selective, in the year of my son's entry, St. Peter's intook 4 boarders and only my son from overseas. ( to be exact, it's the figure of St Olaves the junior school of St Peter, they took like 4-5 from overseas spreading among year 9-12 I guess). In LGS, the headmaster has preference taking boarders from HK though, he told me the quota is 3 over a shortlist of 30 candidates.
Yes, candidate should have reasonable standard of English because I do not feel both school offer special treatment on academic to overseas students. In LGS my son told me he at first could understand 50% but now in 6 months time he said it's over 80% as nothing for him to rely on he has to survive by himself.
For activities, both schools offer wide range ..... In St Peters as a coed school, they give things like dancing, cookery which my son would run away (they certainly have things line swimming, tennis etc) However in LGS, they offer football (very frequent at least 3 times a week), fencing which my son plays and not many schools in UK offer and things like microscopy (seeing things under microscope) and cutting of small insects.....boys are crazy for that. One more thing, the Music school is super in LGS while my son plays 2 instruments so we opt for it.
Perhaps worth to mention : LGS is going to increase its boarding fees because of the recent renovation so the lumpsum will come up to like 7600 / term from 2013. Still it's competitive but makes a different with the past.
Anyhow, there is no best school but just one suitable to your child.
Hope it helps.
作者: RDC 時間: 13-2-21 22:54
各位家長,
你地D資枓真係好好!!! 係呢到我知多左好多information, 幫助我好多呀. 雖然我仲在等待中
作者: yeung2212 時間: 13-2-21 23:49
Thanks for all of your vuluable information.
For my son, he has chosen Kimboltan at last.
Of course, we respect his choice although we are very disappointing.
作者: 小比一隻大 時間: 13-2-22 00:41
Yeung2212,
我好欣賞你，有時話民主但最終係假民主，始終覺得他得14歲。
我就易講難做
作者: dsm 時間: 13-2-22 11:59
小比一隻大 發表於 13-2-22 00:41 
Yeung2212,
我好欣賞你，有時話民主但最終係假民主，始終覺得他得14歲。
我就易講難做 ...
舊年四個囝一同往英寄宿開學，分別3所學校，友人兒子的班主任得悉他們下禢了附近的B&B, 報到前一晚特意前去探訪他們看有什麼幫忙，雖不代表什麼，但對於懷著忐忑送別兒子的家長，這確實是很窩心的舉動！放得出去，預左孩子要靠自己，但作為父母總希望有father or mother-like 的人在外能照顧一下，以我看不是很多學校做到。.....有感而發.......但阿囝上學還是很開心的，成績好的學校壓力大些功課忙些，但阿囝話始終比HK輕鬆，能提起學習興趣最緊要。
作者: dsm 時間: 13-2-22 15:53
dsm 發表於 13-2-22 11:59
作為家長不免向成績看向$$看，我也自問放不下這些包袱，不其然犧牲了一些孩子認為很重要的東西，我相信poki ...
作者: CPU1995 時間: 13-2-22 21:33
dsm 發表於 13-2-21 14:58
LGS is going to increase its boarding fees because of the recent renovation so the lumpsum will come up to like 7600 / term from 2013. Still it's competitive but makes a different with the past.
dsm,
Did you consider Warwick for your son?
How would you compare LGS with Warwick as both schools have similar rankings, high percents of Chinese boarders and comparatively low school fees?
作者: dsm 時間: 13-2-25 00:35
CPU1995 發表於 13-2-22 21:33
dsm,
Did you consider Warwick for your son?
big school with over 1000 population,
small boarding house at around 50+, though I am not sure the ratio of Chinese boys in Warwick.
In fact, I have an ex-colleague who was an warwickrian. He said that the school has high expectation on boys that stiving for best performance in academic and extra curriculum. The caring is so so and he did stress that, in his old days there was obvious discrimination on non British boy ( not know the situation now) so he spent quite long time in his school lives to overcome this (nb: he is smart, creative and a quick response guy, perhaps generate from those past experience). So when we chose school for our son, we tried to get a school with better mix..... Anyhow, the fees was 1000 Gbp difference of LGS n Warwick at that time so we had crossed out Warwick right away. Are you considering these 2?
作者: CPU1995 時間: 13-2-25 09:41 標題: 引用：Quote:CPU1995+發表於+13-2-22+21:33+dsm,D
原帖由 dsm 於 13-02-25 發表
Yes, indeed they are apple-to-apple comparison, same traditional boys school,
big school with over ...
If my elder son can come back HK to study through non-JUPAS entry in 2014, I will let my younger son applying some top ranking schools with a few Chinese students.
作者: panda-jojo 時間: 13-2-25 09:55
St Peters. Lovely city, lovely school and not too many international students.
作者: dsm 時間: 13-2-26 01:53
CPU1995 發表於 13-2-25 09:41
Owing to financial consideration, Warwick and LSG are my top priorities for my younger son.
If my e ...
作者: CPU1995 時間: 13-2-26 10:04 標題: 回覆：dsm 的帖子
My elder son wants to come back to HK to study in HK university but I think the chance is very slim.
He is currently studying year 12 in a state boarding school whereas I will not let my younger son applying it.
作者: dsm 時間: 13-2-26 17:00
CPU1995 發表於 13-2-26 10:04
My elder son wants to come back to HK to study in HK university but I think the chance is very slim. ...
So the golden rule is just try!
作者: CPU1995 時間: 13-2-26 18:20
For all my friends I know who were admitted by local universities for medicine, BBA etc, their kids got at least 2A*1A, 4A or even 6A* from GCE A level for the successful entries to local universities through non-JUPAS entry. That’s why I think the chance is slim for my elder son who wants to study in any universities in HK in order to save the money for his younger brother to study independent school in UK.
Btw, do you know what are the procedures for non-JUPAS application?
作者: HKdevil 時間: 13-2-26 18:23 標題: 回覆：CPU1995 的帖子
What does your son want to study in hk?
作者: CPU1995 時間: 13-2-26 18:30 標題: 引用：What+does+your+son+want+to+study+in+hk?
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原帖由 HKdevil 於 13-02-26 發表
What does your son want to study in hk?
作者: HKdevil 時間: 13-2-26 21:14 標題: 回覆：CPU1995 的帖子
A boyfrom my girls boarding school got 4 As in A level now studying at hku econ. So not that hard
作者: CPU1995 時間: 13-2-26 22:15
HKdevil 發表於 13-2-26 21:14
A boyfrom my girls boarding school got 4 As in A level now studying at hku econ. So not that hard
...
My elder son had not studied Economics before so he probably got Grade C in January's AS Level Economics. Hope he can excel in the coming May/June AS re-take.
For my friends, one got 2A*A, one 4A, one 5A, one 6A* in GCS A level and came back HK for teritary studies by these brillinat A Level results. They gave up the offers of London University and Cambridge.
This is the first time I heard getting entry by AS Level results.
作者: 小比一隻大 時間: 13-2-27 16:15
dsm ,Cpu1995
Can you email to me, as I need make final decision on 28-2,
I want some advise from you,
Pls give a hand.
My email:[email protected]
Thank you so much
作者: CPU1995 時間: 13-2-27 16:50 標題: 引用：dsm+,Cpu1995Can+you+email+to+me,+as+I+ne
原帖由 小比一隻大 於 13-02-27 發表
dsm ,Cpu1995
Can you email to me, as I need make final decision on 28-2,
作者: 小比一隻大 時間: 13-2-27 18:36
No PM leave
作者: dsm 時間: 13-2-27 22:50
小比一隻大 發表於 13-2-27 16:15
dsm ,Cpu1995
Can you email to me, as I need make final decision on 28-2,
作者: dsm 時間: 13-2-28 00:34
CPU1995 發表於 13-2-26 18:20
For all my friends I know who were admitted by local universities for medicine, BBA etc, their kids ...
I have alittle son too, really have to save up for the younger one!!!! Would youconsider those in Northern Ireland? There are 2 with quite good A levels butthe fees are cheaper. I know one in Campbell, the mother told meit's pretty safe in Belfast.
What year youryounger one tends to enter? You know it's tend to be less in lower forms. InLGS,only 2 Chinese in my son's form out of 90 students, the situation issimilar in year 8 - 11 (like max 4 in a form). Most Chinese are in 6th, like20.
AS level is anentry possibility to HK's universities. I know a girl using AS sucessfully gotinto POly Hotel Management (but many years ago). I would say it's difficult topredict the situation for non jupas (no figures, no numbers of place etc...)because it's not the norm. So it is hard to do the bench marking with otherpotential candidates. But the chance is not really slim by the way.
http://www.edu-kingdom.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=2473157&extra=page%3D4
作者: CPU1995 時間: 13-2-28 08:30 標題: 回覆：dsm 的帖子
Though the school fee is cheaper, I will not consider school in northern part of UK such as Wales or Scotland lest my younger learns the non traditional English accent from lower forms. I think it is OK for my elder son to study in northern part for higher form as his accent will not change anyway at age of 17.
For LGS, my elder son has two former classmates studying here and my elder son said that the boarding house is nearly 100% Chinese in senior forms. Please correct me if I am wrong.
My younger son is studying F. 1 and I suppose he will study in UK in 2014 if he is willing to go abroad. Actually, he is admitted by one good ranking school to jump one form to Grade 9 but I am unwilling to let him go abroad this year.
作者: dsm 時間: 13-2-28 13:45
CPU1995 發表於 13-2-28 08:30
Though the school fee is cheaper, I will not consider school in northern part of UK such as Wales or ...
There are 2 houses in LGS, one house containing boys entering at year 10 or below while they stay until the end of 6th forms. The other house takes boys for 6th forms only so it will be a 2 years turnover and I'm not sure its Chinese ration. Since my son only got one Chinese classmate (who is not a boarder) and in his boarding house no Chinese in Y7-8 except my son, so he spends most of his time with local students. In Year 9-11, it's an average of 4 Chinese in a form. By simple calculating, it's about 13 Chinese (incl my son) in the boarding house out of 20.
My neice was in UK boarding school from year6. She told me most of her English skills were earned from junior school (ie below year8). Her comment "can live without one single english word in social lives" until the end of her university. She said all Chinese will naturally get together if they see each other. That's why she recommend us to send the son aboard as early as we can owing to the purpose of learning English. She has graduated from LSE economics and now works in a bank in London. If your thought is to let your son in an english speaking environment, try to let him go earlier. Nevertheless, I believe it depends on the kids' character too. After all, things are easy if one is outgoing and willing to speak out. So your younger son will go for year 10 in the same school?
作者: peter_pan 時間: 13-2-28 15:52
Scottish accent varies from different part of the country.
Edinburgh accent is OK & there are good schools there such as Fettes.
Glasgow or Aberdeen accents, on the other hand, can be very difficult to understand!
作者: CPU1995 時間: 13-2-28 18:14
dsm 發表於 13-2-28 13:45
So your younger son will go for year 10 in the same school?.
Even it is a state school without school fee, I will not consider my younger son applying his elder brother's state school though the learning atmosphere is excellent in this school.
I think Year 10 entry is too competitive whereas Year 9 entry is less competitive even for a very top ranking school. So my younger son will not start from year 10 in UK.
作者: dsm 時間: 13-2-28 23:35
CPU1995 發表於 13-2-28 18:14
My elder son is currently studying in a state school with only 2 students able to speak Chinese. One ...
Heard that good state school is extremely difficult to get in, my friend in London is buzzling around for schools for her 2 kids, she told me parents usually queue up once confirm pregnant. And she moved to the area of target school purposely but still couldn't get in.
作者: dsm 時間: 13-2-28 23:38
peter_pan 發表於 13-2-28 15:52
Scottish accent varies from different part of the country.
Edinburgh accent is OK & there are good s ...
作者: lamb2003 時間: 13-3-1 16:29
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CPU1995,
As you mentioned " Even it is a state school without school fee, I will not consider my younger son applying his elder brother's state school though the learning atmosphere is excellent in this school."
May I know the reasons? What are the facts making you not to consider sending your younger son to the same state school? Would you please tell me more about the UK state boarding schools? How about their facilities and standards? For the top state boarding schools, are they really very difficult to enter? Impossible for a student with average performance in HK schools to enter?
作者: CPU1995 時間: 13-3-1 17:54
I believe my younger son is totally unsuitable to place in the enviornoment of my elder son's school notwithstanding it has a very good ranking with nearly 40% students achieving at least 10As in GCSE last year.
Mainly becasue my elder son's school is a weekly boarding school with no compulsory after-school activities, little homework, no extra tuition class, one subject one textbook and highly free autonomy for students to do anything before sleeping hours.
I don't know whether it is difficult to enter a top state boarding school. For my elder son's state school, it admitted two Hong Kong students last year.
Personally, I do think that the pastol care, accomodation and varieities of ECAs of independent schools must surpass state schools.
作者: demio 時間: 13-10-8 17:18
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dsm,
please check pm.
thanks.
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