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作者: uulaw 時間: 13-1-31 11:39 標題: anyone got offer from TY ESF?

can i know anyone got offer from Tsing Yi ESF already?

作者: Shrimpiggy 時間: 13-1-31 12:41 標題: 回覆：uulaw 的帖子

not yet bor. the interview letter said this week but the teacher told us that result will be ready on 4th Feb during the interview.

作者: uulaw 時間: 13-1-31 13:44 標題: 回覆：anyone got offer from TY ESF

really?i am so worry about it.can i call the school ask the result?

作者: Shrimpiggy 時間: 13-1-31 13:51 標題: 回覆：uulaw 的帖子

dont worry, i am also waiting, I think we have at least 3 families here in this forum waiting for the results.

作者: uulaw 時間: 13-1-31 13:59 標題: 回覆：anyone got offer from TY ESF

hope all of us can get the offer!

作者: FattyDaddy 時間: 13-1-31 14:43

When we receive results through the post, we could often tell whether it is good news or bad news even before we open the envelope, judging by the thickness of the letter. An offer is usually accompanied by various forms to be filled in and returned and so the letter would be thick, while bad news is usually just a single sheet saying "We regret to inform you ... blah blah blah", and so the letter would be thin.

Not so for ESF, an offer will also be just a single sheet bearing the good news, and the paper work will follow later in another letter {:1_1:}

作者: Shrimpiggy 時間: 13-1-31 14:57 標題: 回覆：FattyDaddy 的帖子

thanks fattydaddy's valuable sharing. good luck to all!

作者: Mom2One 時間: 13-1-31 15:55

本帖最後由 Mom2One 於 13-1-31 16:54 編輯

According to a friend of mine whose child interviewed at Hillside, she was told that her son has been accepted but that they can't issue contracts until EDB approves fees etc. But not sure if that's the case for all ESF kindies or just Hillside.

作者: 菠蘿媽媽 時間: 13-1-31 20:58 標題: 引用：When+we+receive+results+through+the+post

原帖由 FattyDaddy 於 13-01-31 發表
When we receive results through the post, we could often tell whether it is good news or bad news ev ...

Thank you Fattydaddy, u can always give us very supportive advice!

作者: 菠蘿媽媽 時間: 13-1-31 20:58 標題: 回覆：anyone got offer from TY ESF

I also waiting for the result

作者: uulaw 時間: 13-2-1 22:23 標題: 回覆：anyone got offer from TY ESF

i called school today.they said will send the letter out b4 CNY.

作者: 菠蘿媽媽 時間: 13-2-1 22:28 標題: 回覆：uulaw 的帖子

Thank you for your update!

作者: jolalee 時間: 13-2-2 10:29

So this coming week is it!

The school have informed us ahead of time that we're only on the wait list (before the play visit), so i wonder what our 'acceptance letter' will be like, even if my son passed their requirement. Probably that he passed but will inform us of a spot when it's available, i guess.

作者: 菠蘿媽媽 時間: 13-2-2 13:15 標題: 回覆：jolalee 的帖子

You are in Cat 1/2?

作者: mouton 時間: 13-2-3 13:55

Attended the play visit on 25th in the morning. Can't tell much how's going, we are just waiting. Wish you all a Happy Chinese New Year. Godspeed!

作者: jolalee 時間: 13-2-3 22:06

本帖最後由 jolalee 於 13-2-3 22:12 編輯

菠蘿媽媽發表於 13-2-2 13:15
You are in Cat 1/2?

Good question. I don't know.
Both my husband and I speak to our son in English (basically everyone in our house speaks English), but i did put that his grandparents speaks to him in Cantonese (who doesn't live together and we see each other only 2-4 times a month, but then, the application did not ask how often they see each other). I've no idea if they'd put us in Cat 1 or 2 in that case.

Are you on the wait list or the guaranteed list? Are you considered Cat 1 or 2? How would you know about it?

作者: konimama 時間: 13-2-3 23:09 標題: 回覆：anyone got offer from TY ESF?

No worry to all. ESF will cancel Category system on 2014/15 p1 interview.
AND ESF kindergarten students will not have any priority for interview as well.

You don't need to worry much about kindergarten then.

Concentrate on P1 application for good.

作者: FattyDaddy 時間: 13-2-4 04:22

本帖最後由 FattyDaddy 於 13-2-4 04:25 編輯

konimama 發表於 13-2-3 23:09
No worry to all. ESF will cancel Category system on 2014/15 p1 interview.
AND ESF kindergarten stude ...

For those who are not already in the ESF system but targeting ESF primary schools, I'm not sure if this is really good news or bad news.

With the current system, at least one knows what would bring an advantage to ESF P1 application, i.e. be an ESF kindergarten pupil and in Cat 1. With that system gone and ESF schools being no longer "non-selective", one simply won't know what might improve one's chances, and if one doesn't know then how exactly does one "concentrate on P1 application"? It will be like applying to one of those elite local schools where parents put their children through piano lessons and ballet lessons and all kinds of grueling extra-curricula tutoring believing these would help, if at all.

作者: 菠蘿媽媽 時間: 13-2-4 10:39

jolalee 發表於 13-2-3 22:06
Good question. I don't know.
Both my husband and I speak to our son in English (basically everyone ...

My case is similar to you, the first language of my daugther is English, but she can understand some Cantonese, as she learn from PN class. And I did report to that in the application form. So I also don't know which Cat we are.

I don't know what is wait list or the guaranteed list? how can we know? from the letter or call to school?

作者: 菠蘿媽媽 時間: 13-2-4 10:51

FattyDaddy 發表於 13-2-4 04:22
For those who are not already in the ESF system but targeting ESF primary schools, I'm not sure if ...

Is this new arrangement is confirmed?

作者: FattyDaddy 時間: 13-2-4 11:17

菠蘿媽媽發表於 13-2-4 10:51
Is this new arrangement is confirmed?

Yes it is confirmed, but the new arrangement won't affect your child who is applying for ESF kindergarten this year, it will affect those who will apply next year. In other words, if your child is accepted by ESF, he/she will be among the last batch of ESF kindergarten pupils to have priority in applying to ESF primary schools.

作者: 菠蘿媽媽 時間: 13-2-4 11:45

FattyDaddy 發表於 13-2-4 11:17
Yes it is confirmed, but the new arrangement won't affect your child who is applying for ESF kinderg ...

Thank you FattyDaddy, I hope my child can catch the "尾班車"!

作者: konimama 時間: 13-2-4 11:55 標題: 回覆：anyone got offer from TY ESF?

Are u sure they will be the last batch?
Have u read the email yet?
It's saying that 2014/15 intake Y1 application.

作者: ramen 時間: 13-2-4 12:27

konimama 發表於 13-2-4 11:55
Are u sure they will be the last batch?
Have u read the email yet?
It's saying that 2014/15 intake Y ...

If your child is from a non-esf kindie applying 2014/15 Year one, then the new admission policy will apply.

For children currently attending K1 at esf kindies or going to K1 this Aug 2013, the old system / esf prority still applies.

作者: FattyDaddy 時間: 13-2-4 12:51

本帖最後由 FattyDaddy 於 13-2-4 12:56 編輯

konimama 發表於 13-2-4 11:55
Are u sure they will be the last batch?
Have u read the email yet?
It's saying that 2014/15 intake Y1 ...

Yep, I read it, and it said the 2014-15 intake of ESF K1 (not Y1) will no longer have interview priority when they apply for ESF primary school Year 1 later on. The entire paragraph was referring to kindergarten children and following are the exact words ...

Children who attend an ESF International Kindergarten have in the past received priority for interview at ESF schools. Those children currently attending an ESF International Kindergarten in the 2012-13 academic year, as well as those who apply for and gain a kindergarten place in 2013-14, will continue to receive priority when they apply for a Year 1 place. When the new ESF admissions policy takes effect for applications for the 2014-15 school year, the interview priority will no longer apply.

作者: konimama 時間: 13-2-4 13:34 標題: 回覆：anyone got offer from TY ESF?

Thanks Fattydaddy, I think I hv overlooked it. This email seems like driving me mad this morning though.

Well, the paragraph extracted from the email explained why no priority is granted from 2014:

"The reason for this change is that, with the increasing numbers of able, English speaking children leaving the four ESF Educational Services (ESL) operated kindergartens, and plans for future expansion, it is becoming less feasible to provide a meaningful priority for an admissions interview at an ESF primary school. "

Means expatriate not going to ESF kindie, then why they need to give the priority to ESF kindie then.
What do u feel about this? Racist.......

作者: gorbb 時間: 13-2-4 14:49

Dear FattyDaddy and all,

Thanks for the information.

My kid is one of the candidates of 2013/14 K1 class at ESF WKS and she’s in Cat 2. If she can get a place at ESF WKS, should I assume that she’s one of the most beneficial ones from the change of admission policy as they can still catch the 尾班車 for interview priority and there will be no more Cat 1/Cat 2 differentiation by then?

Many thanks.

作者: FattyDaddy 時間: 13-2-4 15:02

konimama 發表於 13-2-4 13:34
"The reason for this change is that, with the increasing numbers of able, English speaking children leaving the four ESF Educational Services (ESL) operated kindergartens, and plans for future expansion, it is becoming less feasible to provide a meaningful priority for an admissions interview at an ESF primary school. "
...

Yes, this is the paragraph that puzzled me as well. It sounded like the four ESF kindergartens are currently churning out too many pupils for their primary schools to take in, and that in future these kindergartens will only produce more (plans for future expansion), so their primary schools will stop giving priority to ESF kindergarten children.

This is just daft, if their kindergartens are churning out too many, surely the appropriate thing to do is either to cut down on their kindergartens or expand their primary schools, for most parents the biggest reason for sending their children to an ESF kindergarten is because they want their children to proceed to an ESF primary school, and if ESF kindergartens no longer have priority then there would be little point.

Furthermore, If they could use this kind of excuse today, then at some time in the future they could well say their primary schools are producing too many students for their secondary schools, and ESF primary school students will no longer have priority. The entire ESF organization might as well dissolve today with all their schools becoming independent with no priority given to any other school.

作者: md23 時間: 13-2-4 15:06

gorbb 發表於 13-2-4 14:49
Dear FattyDaddy and all,

Thanks for the information.

Yes, from my understanding, your kid would be the biggest beneficiary of this policy.

作者: FattyDaddy 時間: 13-2-4 15:17

gorbb 發表於 13-2-4 14:49
should I assume that she’s one of the most beneficial ones.

I believe the removal of the interview priority and Cat 1 & 2 differentiation will happen at the same time, so there won't be a case of a kindergarten pupil having the interview priority but not subjected to Cat 1 & 2 classification.

作者: Shrimpiggy 時間: 13-2-4 15:19 標題: 引用：Quote:konimama+發表於+13-2-4+13:34+"The+

原帖由 FattyDaddy 於 13-02-04 發表
Yes, this is the paragraph that puzzled me as well. It sounded like the four ESF kindergartens are c ...

who knows. the correlation of LS kindergarten and primary schools are not strong as those 一條龍 from primary to secondary. ESF may choose to adopt the train-through arrangement as those LS DSS to solicit the government to continue the subvention. in fact, the two ESF PIS provide 300 placement for P1, it is more likely the ESF kiddies will have ever strong bond with these two PIS.

作者: LOVELYABB 時間: 13-2-4 15:25 標題: 回覆：FattyDaddy 的帖子

FattyDaddy
In your view, do u think it will be beneficial / necessary to help my second child apply to esf kindy?
We have sibling priority and daddy is esf alumni.

作者: jolalee 時間: 13-2-5 02:33

FattyDaddy 發表於 13-2-4 15:17
I believe the removal of the interview priority and Cat 1 & 2 differentiation will happen at the sam ...

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"The new policy will put an end to the category system. Starting from August 2013, the admissions assessment process will be strengthened. The emphasis will be on the actual testing of the children’s English language proficiency, and on verifying the parents’ commitment to an ESF style English medium education through a parental statement and interview."
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The cancellation of the category system begins this August, but kids in 2012-13 & 2013-14 still have P1 interview priority. I think Fattydaddy & the rest of us 2013 K1 applicants (Shimpiggy, Pineapple mom and myself) ends up within this historical 2 years window where the kids will not be penalized for knowing Cantonese while they still have the Primary school interview priority. This is really a game plan changing announcement for us...

[Please correct me if you see loophole in my deduction]

作者: jolalee 時間: 13-2-5 02:35

Anyhow, anyone got an offer yet? I checked my mail box today but i only found announcements from other interviewed schools.

作者: mouton 時間: 13-2-5 10:19

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Not yet.

作者: 菠蘿媽媽 時間: 13-2-5 10:22

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Still waiting..
Only received a email from ESF to talk about the new policy.

作者: Shrimpiggy 時間: 13-2-5 11:16 標題: 回覆：jolalee 的帖子

we are also waiting.

作者: FattyDaddy 時間: 13-2-5 11:32

本帖最後由 FattyDaddy 於 13-2-5 11:44 編輯

jolalee 發表於 13-2-5 02:33
The cancellation of the category system begins this August, but kids in 2012-13 & 2013-14 still have P1 interview priority

I believe Cat 1 & 2 and interview priority and non-selective admission will go together, you will either be under the old system or the new system, not a mix.

As I mentioned before, it is hard to say whether the new system is really better. In the old system, you know what circumstances would give an advantage because they are spelt out clearly, in the new system they just say they will admit those "who are able to benefit from an English-medium education" after a "rigorous interview".

It is rather like you saying to your child, "if you are polite and say please when you ask for something, then I will give you an apple", versus "if I think an apple is good for you, then I will give you one". I'm not sure which is better.

I'm inclined to think that ESF have simply taken a page out of the practices of those elitist schools in Hongkong. Theoretically they are open to everyone, but in reality they have their preferences and prejudices but they don't tell you about it. Many Hongkong parents put their kindergarten age children through all sorts of grueling extra-curricular classes to build up a portfolio of certificates for primary school application, and I woudn't be surprised to see tutorial centres offering "ESF面試精讀班" in a couple of years time.

作者: konimama 時間: 13-2-5 13:59 標題: 回覆：anyone got offer from TY ESF?

No way~
ESF not take in any account of anything like profolio.
Their teachers are lazy that all vanished afterschool.
Work overtime? Maybe a myth to them

作者: 田心 時間: 13-2-5 14:48 標題: 引用：No+way~+ ESF+not+take+in+any+account+of+

原帖由 konimama 於 13-02-05 發表
No way~
ESF not take in any account of anything like profolio.
Their teachers are lazy that all van ...

I don't agreed with this statement. My son is attending Abacus and I always see the teachers stay behind to do lots of preparation work for the class. Of course, they will go home if nothing to do. The class starts at 8:30 - 3:30pm and teachers has to be at school by 8 am, I think it's fair for them to go home at around 4.

作者: Shrimpiggy 時間: 13-2-5 15:07 標題: 回覆：konimama 的帖子

hard working is not equivalent to high productivity and quality.
I don't think the working style and long working hours of LS teachers due to confusing policy and lack of resources do benefit our kids!

作者: Mom2One 時間: 13-2-5 15:15

回復田心的帖子

I also find the teachers at Hillside very professional and they take their responsibilities very seriously and do their job well. I have the highest respect for them and don't find them "lazy" at all.

作者: jolalee 時間: 13-2-5 15:20

本帖最後由 jolalee 於 13-2-5 16:07 編輯

According to their announcement, ESF Kindie priority ends after this coming 2013 K1 admission (those applying for 2015 P1), however, Cat 1&2 and non-selective admission begins this coming Aug 2013 (for admission for 2014 P1), so there is a gap between the two implementations. For children in ESF Kindie who applies for 2014-15 and 2015-16 P1, they will still have P1 interview priority, but will be subject to the new admission selection standard. This is deduced purely from reading carefully what is written in their 4 Feb 2013 announcement. If anyone see other ESF publication that speaks more clearly about this please do let us know.

Anyhow, my husband found this SCMP article--
http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-ko ... on-chinese-speakers
Apparently [The ESF chief executive] "told a news conference the [previous Category 1/2] implementation of the policy to give priority to non-Chinese speakers had been unsuccessful." Using Fattydaddy's example, it's like they finally realized asking the children to be polite and say please cannot determine who really need the apples (since everyone wants an apple), and since they do not have enough for everyone who asks, they will now interview each family to see who really need one. Yet, both ethnic Chinese and non-Chinese speaking families thinks they will now be more disadvantaged. In a few years time we shall know the truth, and unfortunately like the HK 3-3-4 school system, we end up being the guinea pig. I believe there is more to come: new school fee announcement, perhaps new policy regarding primary to secondary application (as already mentioned on this forum). Yes, the prospects are scary...

作者: mouton 時間: 13-2-5 16:19

This might not a news, but I just wanna put a 2 cents here regarding IS and DSS schools which are offering IB programme. That will be 3-4-3 instead of 3-3-4.

Reference:
http://www.edu-kingdom.com/forum ... ead&tid=2344591
http://news.sina.com.hk/news/20111107/-1-2484543/1.html

作者: Shrimpiggy 時間: 13-2-6 10:34 標題: 回覆：uulaw 的帖子

results will send out today or tomorrow latest.

作者: uulaw 時間: 13-2-6 19:15 標題: 回覆：anyone got offer from TY ESF

u asked school?

作者: Shrimpiggy 時間: 13-2-6 20:08 標題: 回覆：uulaw 的帖子

yes.

作者: FattyDaddy 時間: 13-2-6 20:36

Shrimpiggy 發表於 13-2-6 10:34
results will send out today or tomorrow latest.

I see in another post that you are also waiting for results from Kowloon Junior School, you have 2 children applying for admission? Must be anxious times for you.

作者: Shrimpiggy 時間: 13-2-6 20:43 標題: 回覆：FattyDaddy 的帖子

yes, so anixous.

作者: uulaw 時間: 13-2-7 09:07 標題: 回覆：anyone got offer from TY ESF

thank u for your update.shrimpiggy!

作者: mouton 時間: 13-2-7 12:24

I'm afraid I'm the most extreme anixous parent... for some reason, I only applied ESF TY for my daughter without applying any other kindergarten.

作者: uulaw 時間: 13-2-7 13:43 標題: 回覆：anyone got offer from TY ESF

so how's your interview(mouton)?

作者: mouton 時間: 13-2-7 14:59

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My wife accompanied with my daughter in the play visit, I'm not quite sure how was it.

作者: uulaw 時間: 13-2-7 15:54 標題: 回覆：anyone got offer from TY ESF

did anyone get offer letter already?

作者: 菠蘿媽媽 時間: 13-2-7 16:52 標題: 回覆：uulaw 的帖子

Will check after work!

作者: Shrimpiggy 時間: 13-2-7 17:54 標題: 回覆：菠蘿媽媽的帖子

not yet for me

作者: uulaw 時間: 13-2-7 18:37 標題: 回覆：anyone got offer from TY ESF

me too

作者: jolalee 時間: 13-2-7 23:06

Haha, just got home. Since no one has any news yet I haven't checked my mailbox. This will be the most nerve recking pre CNY eve ever!!

作者: Supermilou 時間: 13-2-8 01:12 標題: 回覆：anyone got offer from TY ESF?

They have posted the letter last night, everyone should be getting the mails tomorrow I suppose. I have received the letter and got an offer for my daughter. However there has not been any allocation for am or pm class yet.

作者: mouton 時間: 13-2-8 07:44 標題: 引用：They+have+posted+the+letter+last+night,+

原帖由 Supermilou 於 13-02-08 發表
They have posted the letter last night, everyone should be getting the mails tomorrow I suppose. I h ...

Congratulation!

I'm still waiting...

作者: michray 時間: 13-2-8 15:18 標題: 回覆：anyone got offer from TY ESF

my son is on waitlist. upset

作者: uulaw 時間: 13-2-8 18:23 標題: 回覆：anyone got offer from TY ESF

i still didnt get any letter ,so sad

作者: Shrimpiggy 時間: 13-2-8 18:50 標題: 回覆：uulaw 的帖子

we don't have mail yet too.

作者: 菠蘿媽媽 時間: 13-2-8 20:34 標題: 回覆：anyone got offer from TY ESF

I got the offer finally

Good luck to u all !

作者: mouton 時間: 13-2-8 20:58 標題: 回覆：anyone got offer from TY ESF?

Congratulation!!!

作者: uulaw 時間: 13-2-8 21:05 標題: 回覆：anyone got offer from TY ESF

作者: uulaw 時間: 13-2-8 21:06 標題: 引用：I+got+the+offer+finally+ Good+luck+to+u+

原帖由 菠蘿媽媽 於 13-02-08 發表
I got the offer finally
Good luck to u all !

can i know where do u live?i live in TY but didnt get letter yet.dont know y

作者: 菠蘿媽媽 時間: 13-2-8 22:00 標題: 回覆：uulaw 的帖子

I live in kln west. U luck to u:)

作者: jolalee 時間: 13-2-9 00:22

My boy passed the assessment :)

However, since I was honest in my application and stated that his grandparents talk to him in canto (who lives in Australia and only see him 2 weeks a year, but then there's no room to explain on the application), I think he's put in Cat 2. We knew before the assessment that we're already on the wait list, but they did state that he's pretty high on the list and would usually get a spot.

Given this is the final year ESF kids will get priority, I think many will hold onto their place and hence there'll be less availability for the kids on the waiting list. I am not putting all my eggs in one basket and will ensure the existing Kindie he goes to (which I love) has a spot for him ;)

作者: jolalee 時間: 13-2-9 00:26

michray 發表於 13-2-8 15:18
my son is on waitlist. upset

Was he on the wait list before the assessment, or did they inform you only now? Did the school state on the latest letter that he passed the assessment or not?

作者: michray 時間: 13-2-9 01:08 標題: 回覆：anyone got offer from TY ESF

jolalee ~ yes, they did inform us that my son is on their waitlist before their assessment. But I think everyone would get the similar letter fm them. Today, we got a letter fm them to inform us that my son was sucessful at interview and he is on their waitlist. But i got a question, do they really send out reject letter?

作者: michray 時間: 13-2-9 01:12 標題: 回覆：anyone got offer from TY ESF

To pineapple mama, did they mentioned you were on their waitlist before the interview/play? And you got the offer after the visit?

作者: michray 時間: 13-2-9 01:21 標題: 回覆：jolalee 的帖子

whick one will your son go to?

作者: michray 時間: 13-2-9 01:22 標題: 回覆：anyone got offer from TY ESF

Jolalee, which kindie will your son go to?

作者: mouton 時間: 13-2-9 03:54 標題: 引用：To+pineapple+mama,+did+they+mentioned+yo

原帖由 michray 於 13-02-09 發表
To pineapple mama, did they mentioned you were on their waitlist before the interview/play? And you ...

My wife laugh at me when I pronounced "

ineapple Ma Ma" as "Borneo Ma Ma", I told my wife "Borneo Ma Ma" probably come from Borneo...

Not until I read this "

ineapple" Opps~ Sorry for my bad Chinese.

作者: jolalee 時間: 13-2-9 07:35

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michray 發表於 13-2-9 01:22
Jolalee, which kindie will your son go to?

My son is currently attending DMS- Discovery Montesorri School in DB, and shall graduate to their K1 equivalent Casa class this Sept. It's a great kindie but they do not have any primary affiliation, so if ESF accepts him that would be wonderful.
By the way, did their initial letter inform you where on the wait list were you located? They told us by random draw we were near the top of the wait list and ppl usually gets a spot in the end, but this year is kinda special so I'm not so sure anymore :(

作者: michray 時間: 13-2-9 08:03 標題: 回覆：jolalee 的帖子

Like what I mentioned in the previous message, I think everyone got the similar letter. Yes, they told me that we are at the top of their waitlist. But I think the chance is really slim or hopeless.

作者: Shrimpiggy 時間: 13-2-9 11:53 標題: 回覆：michray 的帖子

we didnt have that letter. will check the mailbox later today

作者: FattyDaddy 時間: 13-2-9 12:01

jolalee 發表於 13-2-9 00:22
My boy passed the assessment :)
We knew before the assessment that we're already on the wait list

Congratulations on your son passing the assessment. You mean even before you went for the play visit they already told you that if your son passes he would only be placed on the waiting list? Sounds like the number of applicants must be very high this year.

Last year the principal told us they received around 500 applications for 180 places, which wasn't that bad considering those famous local kindergartens consistently receive a few thousand applications for a similar number of places.

作者: jolalee 時間: 13-2-9 15:23

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michray 發表於 13-2-9 08:03
Like what I mentioned in the previous message, I think everyone got the similar letter. Yes, they to ...

Oh really? When they say by past experience his chance is high, I believed them, but I guess this year is not like previous years. Anyhow we'll continue to try other through-train IS. Is your kid enrolled in or accepted by another Kindie at the moment?

作者: mouton 時間: 13-2-9 15:38 標題: 引用：+本帖最後由+Mom2One+於+13-1-31+16:54+編

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According to a friend of mine whose child interviewed at ...

All ESF Kindergartens. Once ED approved the paperwork, the kindergartens will send out contract to successful applicants.

作者: FattyDaddy 時間: 13-2-9 15:57

> jolalee Yes they did. Just wondering, on your applicant form, what language did the grandparents speak to your kid? I think I was too honest

Well in my case I didn't put anything because the grandparents are no longer with us.

作者: Shrimpiggy 時間: 13-2-9 17:09 標題: 回覆：FattyDaddy 的帖子

We got the offer too, but mentioned the email that AM and PM class will be assigned randomly later.

作者: michray 時間: 13-2-9 18:05 標題: 回覆：Shrimpiggy 的帖子

shrimpiggy, congrats!

作者: 菠蘿媽媽 時間: 13-2-9 19:18

michray 發表於 13-2-9 01:12
To pineapple mama, did they mentioned you were on their waitlist before the interview/play? And you ...

Actually, I haven't got any letter prior receiving offer letter.
For me, just very simple:-
1) on-line application
2) receiving play visit letter
3) receiving offer letter

That's all.

By the way, I did mentioned my daugther can speak 1) English and 2) Cantonese. Actually, we cannot deny "can't speak cantonese", coz' my daughter studies in local kindergarten Pre-nursery class now :)

作者: dsm 時間: 13-2-9 19:25

We received the offer letter from TYESF today, anyone knows when would we confirm am or pm class?
My son also got an offer from KBCK.... Fees for ESF is more than double to KBCK, if we are not targeting ESF primary, should we go for KBCK?

作者: michray 時間: 13-2-9 20:00 標題: 回覆：jolalee 的帖子

jolalee, actually I got the offer fm kbck.

作者: jolalee 時間: 13-2-10 03:59

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dsm 發表於 13-2-9 19:25
We received the offer letter from TYESF today, anyone knows when would we confirm am or pm class?
M ...

Just wondering which primary schools you are targeting in that case? Would make a difference on your kindie choices...

作者: dsm 時間: 13-2-11 01:27

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We tend to let my son in local school so that he can learn more Chinese. However, he has only got from ESF and KBCK. We did apply some bilingual kinders but he failed in all interviews. So we only have these 2 choices at the moment. Despite the priority of entering ESF primary, how would you compare these 2 kinders in terms of caring and academic ?

作者: manfatcentre 時間: 13-2-11 02:07 標題: 引用：>+jolalee++Yes+they+did.+Just+wondering,

原帖由 FattyDaddy 於 13-02-09 發表
> jolalee Yes they did. Just wondering, on your applicant form, what language did the grandparents ...

I wrote parent also grandparent are Cantonese speaker but my kid also got offer. don't worry.

作者: jolalee 時間: 13-2-11 02:21

manfatcentre 發表於 13-2-11 02:07
I wrote parent also grandparent are Cantonese speaker but my kid also got offer. don't worry.

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Did your child get an offer this year or in a previous year? Was he/she wait listed initially? thx!

作者: jolalee 時間: 13-2-11 02:39

dsm 發表於 13-2-11 01:27
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We tend to let my son in local school so that he can learn more Chinese. Howeve ...

Wait, do you mean you plan to have him enrolled in a local school for primary onwards? In that case do NOT go for English medium only kindergartens, otherwise he will not be able to catch up to the local standards for P1 applications (both in Chinese and in Math).
Bilingual school is a good option but at pre-K level some of them expect children to communicate already with 2 or even 3 languages during the interview, which goes against the golden rule of giving a child ONE solid mother tongue between 0-3. If he fails the interviews it's not his (or your) fault, so don't beat yourself over it.

From what i know, ESF tend to be very free and teach via play. They can basically write their names only at K2 level as some IS does. As a joke, I always say ESF kindie kids usually go to ESF primary because their academic level would not allow them to go anywhere else. LOL. Anyhow, they do get interview priority for ESF P1 (for the last year) so that's basically the biggest plus. I don't know much about KBCK (in fact, i never heard of it before i see this thread) so i can't compare the two, but perhaps other parents can help.

作者: FattyDaddy 時間: 13-2-11 08:46

> jolalee Both sides? Apologies! 發表於前天 16:58

Happy Lunar New Year to you, there was no need to apologize, it is not that unusual for grandparents to be no longer around.

I noticed you had also asked pineapple mum what she put on her application form. We will probably never know what criteria were used by the school when they were scanning the application forms to determine whether an applicant would be assessed for an actual place (as in pineapple mum's case) or just a place on the waiting list (as in your case), you suspected it might have something to do with putting down Cantonese as the grandparent's language, but I'm not sure if that piece of information really carried that much weight. Like you said, it could well be just a random draw within the respective categories since pineapple mum went even further than you in declaring her daughter knows Cantonese.

作者: Shrimpiggy 時間: 13-2-11 09:40 標題: 回覆：FattyDaddy 的帖子

that's why ESF removing the cat1 /2 is to as avoid such disputes.

作者: jolalee 時間: 13-2-11 15:47

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FattyDaddy 發表於 13-2-11 08:46
> jolalee Both sides? Apologies! 發表於前天 16:58

Happy Lunar New Year to you, there was no need ...

Yes FattyDaddy, true, both sets of my grandparents were no longer around when i was very young. I should not be surprised. I do wish that I get to know my grandparents betters, but it was okay that i didn't get a chance to. I am sure your kids will grow up healthy and happy :) Happy CNY to you too!!

I think you're right, it's a random draw within the respective categories, and it could even be possible that i'm in CAT 1 and not get an interview spot (like my Canadian-born high school friend who spoke no Canto to his daughter at all), whereas someone in CAT 2 does due to the draw. I am already very lucky to have been randomly drawn to be at the top of the waiting list (although i found out here that many parents are in the same situation as I am). Many don't even get the chance due to the shear number of applicants.
Anyhow, it's all gonna change next year, and I do agree that it should help ESF make it more fair for English speaking families. (I'm probably somewhere in the middle anyhow: both my husband and I are ethnic Chinese but native & near native English speakers). I do feel that non ethnic Chinese now stands a greater chance, although ESF cannot say that out loud in fear of being charged with discrimination... I wonder if they would be able to interview EVERY applicant, and if not, how are they going to determine who to and who not to interview?...

作者: dsm 時間: 13-2-12 02:25

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We did not anticipate that our son would have failed in all local kinders (even the one my elder son attended) we applied ESF as contingency while we speak English most of the time. So we are now a little puzzle.

The principal of KBCK told me the 2 schools are more or the less the same in curriculum, perhaps it's true, just wonder how would the fees be so different.

作者: 田心 時間: 13-2-12 11:27 標題: 回覆：anyone got offer from TY ESF?

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dsm. KBCK is subsidized by the church and if you have visited both schools, you should notice their facilities and that's the different.

作者: jolalee 時間: 13-2-12 13:00

I wouldn't be surprised at the tuition difference given we're living in HK. Given KBCK has church background, I'd say moneymaking is not their priority. Churches also has many donors as well. Of course they'd also be spreading their faith to the young minds. If you're against religious beliefs then you may have to think carefully what you want your child's world view will be like. Personally i do prefer it.

In addition, you may need to enroll him in Chinese classes or maybe even another Kindie to keep up his Chinese, and later on math lessons.

作者: mouton 時間: 13-2-13 14:31 標題: 回覆：anyone got offer from TY ESF?

You need to think about K3 class issues if you are going to apply main stream primary schools.

作者: dsm 時間: 13-2-13 18:33

Yes, the differences on hardware are obvious (like buildings, facilities). But for software ?(eg curriculum, teachers). Knew that ESF is playschool alike, I'm worrying KBCK is even more loose.

My elder son was luckily got into a bilingual kinder then went to local primary naturally, so he's got quite good foundation in both written and spoken Chinese (now he is in secondary school overseas). It seems things changed a lot and very difficult to get a place in a good bilingual kinder and primary and so on. Perhaps we might need to consider sending the younger son to 2 schools simultaneously (one local and one English). Again it's headache to find him a local one to connect with the locations where ESF and KBCK situated at this late stage.

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