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作者: ivac 時間: 13-1-18 15:29 標題: 想入 Winchester 或 Tonbridge 是否太妙想天䦕?
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作者: Choisumwong 時間: 13-1-18 20:36
This year only 3 boys are admitted to Tonbridge for year 9 from Hong Kong according to PTA. My son got conditional offer for year 9 last year . He needs to work hard in the coming entrance exam. Really not easy !!
作者: peter_pan 時間: 13-1-18 21:48
也不是妙想天開那麼遙不可及!我認識𣎴少 St Paul's Coed 旳學生現正右 Tonbridge 就讀。肯努力就一定有機會。
作者: seabird6623 時間: 13-1-18 23:15
如果小朋友在喇X書院,要考第幾才有機會?
作者: peter_pan 時間: 13-1-19 14:13
去年也有喇X學生考進Tonbridge, 但不知他在校內排名。不過校內排名跟13+考試未必有關係,因考的跟學挍教的會有不同。
作者: ivac 時間: 13-1-19 17:06
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作者: ivac 時間: 13-1-19 17:25
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作者: peter_pan 時間: 13-1-19 17:52
是不是一年只收三個我不知道,但這幾年來每年我身邊總有朋友的兒子考入Tonbridge. 所以不要被數據嚇怕,只要努力一定有機會。
作者: peter_pan 時間: 13-1-19 17:56
還有不要單聽 agent ,如想報 Tonbridge 可自己寫信往學校報名。據我所知,有朋友的兒子已自行報名了。
作者: peter_pan 時間: 13-1-19 18:04
至於英國 Harrow 跟香港 Harrow 根本就是兩回事。英國 Harrow 歷史悠久,是一間不折不扣的頂級學校。即使這幾年的考試成績比起其他同級學校有所不及,它仍是一間非常好的學校。
作者: seabird6623 時間: 13-1-20 00:34
其實入學試有沒得練,香港有沒這樣的課程?或者要有什麼奧數、比賽冠軍?想考得都是香港傳統名校學生,有冇些易入的,但排名差不多?
作者: seabird6623 時間: 13-1-20 00:39
其實入學試有沒得練,香港有沒這樣的課程?或者要有什麼奧數、比賽冠軍?想考得都是香港傳統名校學生,有冇些易入的,但排名差不多?
作者: 大眼仔mama 時間: 13-1-20 00:54
我囝囝幸運地被Tonbridge取錄了, 九月會過去讀lower sixth. 我都係找AA, 由AA screen test, interview, entrance exam, 等result, 經歷左半年時間, 所以知道被取錄時真係好開心. 囝囝最先被Oundle offer academic scholarship, 已經好滿足, 幾日內要比1st term fee, 後來收到Dulwish offer, 因為已比左錢Oundle, 而AA話Oundle比Dulwish好, 所都turn down左, 當時Tonbridge只on waitlisted, 直至Christmas前收到Tonbridge email confirm 取錄囝囝, 再比錢都要, 因為Tonbridge係我地dream school, 好彩Oundle肯比退番term fee比我地, AA話今年收左7個lower sixth from HK. 其實Oundle都係一間好好既學校, 每年只收8至十幾個international加本土lower sixth插班生.
In summary, 我同老公都好proud of囝囝
作者: HKdevil 時間: 13-1-20 01:36 標題: 回覆:大眼仔mama 的帖子
Congrate congrate

作者: CPU1995 時間: 13-1-20 08:01 標題: 回覆:HKdevil 的帖子
阿大所識的同學早幾年都有人入到Winchester, Harrow & Tonbridge的year 9, 他們都有以下部署:
1 在香港讀傳統名校
2 個個F. 1音樂都8級dist或以上
3 父母都早幾年寫去學校登記或經AA辦理申請入學
4 上了坊間幾年的6、7佰元一個鐘的每科英國名校入學試補習,至於補習社名單AA是有一張list提供數間專補GCSE或英國名校入學試的補習社,你可問AA的Consultant
至於Oundle, 個人覺得很商業化,阿大2年前都有考過,在oundle見過校長講明year 10只得1個位,但oundle來者不拒, 收了註冊費便俾你考,我數過單是在英國文化協會考都有63人,還不計經AA申請那批,不像Abingdon隔過你成績先收註冊費俾你考試。

作者: seabird6623 時間: 13-1-20 12:57
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但是個人方面呢?兒子要不要考很好的成績!或其他?阿仔成績考十名內!鍾意看書!但數學不是最好,要不要其他配合。有些人預早去Tonbridge認識下,或是在那裡考試。不知有沒用,而conditional offer 代表什麼? Entrance exam 要考成點先收?
作者: Choisumwong 時間: 13-1-20 12:58
I completely agree that Oundle is too commercial. My son applied year 9 for 4 boarding schools in UK. Only Oundle asked me to pay deposit before entrance exam. The deposit is not justified by any admission procedure by most elite boarding school in UK.
作者: Choisumwong 時間: 13-1-20 13:05
Condition offer means nothing for Tonbridge. It aims to get most talented students in its entrance exam aboard or held in UK. It welcome those who apply early or late.
作者: ivac 時間: 13-1-20 13:46
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作者: CPU1995 時間: 13-1-20 14:17 標題: 引用:多謝你們的回覆,看完後我想我囝囝機會也不
原帖由 ivac 於 13-01-20 發表
多謝你們的回覆,看完後我想我囝囝機會也不太大了,他又不是傳统學校學生,小提琴也只是剛考完五级,數學也 ...
其實也不一定讀這2間頂級男校,只要兒子識想肯努力,我識2個大概year 9過去讀排名超過200的Shrewsbury男校,2個都已Cambridge Law畢業。

作者: wmt 時間: 13-1-20 21:43
各位前輩,
咩係AA?
搵AA同搵british council有咩分別?
係唔係有D學校係有agent 代理的? 自己寫信去學校apply唔比agent好?
邊間學校D宿舍好D乖D? 除左TERM BREAK, 全部唔使出去住?
作者: CPU1995 時間: 13-1-21 08:13 標題: 引用:各位前輩,+咩係AA?+搵AA同搵british+counci
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各位前輩,
咩係AA?
搵AA同搵british council有咩分別?
AA= Academic Asia
我所識的朋友包括我2個仔入到全英排名100以內甚至頭20排名的boarding個個都經AA, 雖然阿大最終放棄經AA申請的offers, 其它agent所掛的學校排名似乎冇AA嘅高, 經AA入表申請還有一本厚厚介紹英國boarding的書送。
British Council唔係agent,只提供教育資訊和入學試監校服務。
如學校有agent, 我會搵agent, 可以慳番考每間學校在British Council監考每間學校約HK$2000的監校費,如你考4間,便需$8000監校費。個人覺得有些agent的監校程序一定冇British Council嘅厳緊。
如學校是fully boarding,不像小兒讀的weekly boarding, 只有term break才去host family.
Weekly boarding很煩,星期六日要去hosting family住,前天小兒因大雪火車飛幾個站攪到要幾個鐘先自已去到host family, 今天好彩冇嘅大雪才可返到學校, 返到學校還即刻考AS level Economics.
學費貴的學校通常俾學費平的學校住宿好,不過友人讀的Monmouth住宿非常好,因學校有當地distinct council資助。

作者: demio 時間: 13-1-21 10:18
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恭喜晒!
Oundle係我地的dream school!
作者: Choisumwong 時間: 13-1-21 10:53
Please beware the academic level of Oundle school. It seems that A level result is lagging much behind GCSE result especially for science subjects.
作者: demio 時間: 13-1-21 12:06
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Really? I'm not aware of this!
Any other recommendations for co-ed schools? We are planning to send my son to UK in 2014 for Year 7 and have the following schools in our mind:-
- Oundle School
- Oakham School
- Sevenoak School
- St Olave's Schook, York
- The Leys, Cambridge
My son is good at science and maths and therefore if anyone here can enlighten me about the school that would be much appreciated.
Many thanks.
作者: peter_pan 時間: 13-1-21 17:42
Out of these schools, Sevenoaks is definitely the best, closely followed by Oundle. The other 3 are on fairly similar level - you can also consider Dauntsey's School which is also on similar level.
If you are thinking of St Olave's which feeds into St Peter's, you should also consider Junior King's School Canterbury which feeds into King's School Canterbury. I would consider this school to be at least as good as, if not better than Oundle.
作者: Choisumwong 時間: 13-1-21 17:48
Please check the A level and GCSE result in Oundle school websit and compare them for the past few years. The admission head of Oundle avoided my question of the obvious gap between A level and GCSE results.I only know Sevenoaks school and already submitted application.Sevenoaks is nearly the best school in UK. It is the fiirs in the school ranking by FT.
作者: ivac 時間: 13-1-21 17:52
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作者: demio 時間: 13-1-21 23:25
Thanks, peter_pan and choisumwong.
In fact, we submitted application to all schools by ourselves except The Leys. AA also suggested The Leys and Dauntsey's School. I did consider King's Canterbury but gave up because it is not a 一條龍 school.
作者: NLai 時間: 13-1-22 01:25 標題: 回覆:想入 Winchester 或 Tonbridge 是否太妙想天䦕?
其實去AA做個test,佢話你知呀仔可以考邊間,你咪知係咪夢想,我身邊D朋友D仔女,都係入top school, 良心講,一年花咁多錢俾佢出嚟,如果吾係學有所成,不如慳番D首期,俾佢將來置業實際D,而家好多外國人都話投資大學回報吾同以前啦。都係果句,如果佢願讀,乜學校都考到既,我哋做呀媽,再辛苦都甘心,如果係要求既,由佢啦,我係英國見好多留學生D英文差到你吾信,日日拿住個名牌袋週街行,我心唸枉你父母一番心血,有錢買多兩本書好過買袋啦

作者: CPU1995 時間: 13-1-22 07:10 標題: 回覆:NLai 的帖子
我身邊的朋友入到的top independent school個個都真是學有所成,差個D都入到London U, 我相信top ind school真是有d魔法令學生叻D,不過返到香港大部份都唔見揾得幾多。
身邊有個會考5分在香港讀band3中中,過英國讀完foundation跟著入了間排名幾後的大學,現在都讀得幾好,一年後都叫英國大學畢業。
其實如冇太多慳錢,不如留番d錢俾他們過英國讀大學好過由year 9讀中學,另外,英國的教學都唔注重文法,香港的學生的written English好過英國絕對唔出奇。

作者: peter_pan 時間: 13-1-22 13:11
Demio,
Regarding Junior King's School, Canterbury, I have mentioned in another post that they grade their candidates into 3 tiers. The top tier students will be invited to sit their scholarship exam but both 1st tier & 2nd tier students are given a guaranteed place in the senior school - 13+ exam will still be taken at the end of year 8 but it will be used for setting purpose only (ie, they'll only need to pass it but how well they do will determine what set they'll be in for that subject when they start at the senior school). The bottom tier will not be guaranteed a senior school place but can still get in if they do well in the 13+ exam.
So if you like the senior school, it is still worth applying. if your kid get into the top 2 tiers, then it is no different from 一條龍.
作者: hkparent 時間: 13-1-22 13:11 標題: 回覆:CPU1995 的帖子
Why not study at international schools in HK, which cost only $15000-$20000/month? It's cheaper than sending kids to boarding school in the UK which can cost $30000-$50000/month.

作者: demio 時間: 13-1-22 15:20
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Thanks peter-pan for your advice.
I am now looking at the school again and will seriously reconsider this school
我地之前一心想佢入 Oundle, Oakham or Severoaks, 但又擔心入唔到, 希望佢入到理想學校 - 一間學業及運動及個人品格發展等等都平衡的學校.
作者: CarrieTse 時間: 13-1-22 15:31
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Have your ever tried to get a place in the international schools in HK? I really want to get a Year 9 placement, please advise which internaitonal school has vacancy and will have higher chance.
作者: peter_pan 時間: 13-1-22 17:51
Demio,
I take my hat off to you for having done your homework well.
Presumably you are looking at academically strong school with a high % of boarders that have their own year 7.
Your 3 target schools are already the best there is.
Do have a rethink about King's but at the end of the day, it is tough for your son to have to sit too many entrance exams so personally I would limit it to 3 schools only.
If your son is very bright, then by all means try Sevenoaks but there aren't many places on offer as they have a quota system for different regions of the world because they want a more even distribution of nationality in the school - so not too many places for Hong Kong students.
Your next best choice is Oundle if you want a proper through train school. Regardless of what others may say about Oundle, I can't think of a better school that can fit your criteria.
As for the others, I don't have a preference except to say that I think St Peter's, York is supposedly better value for money as their fees are a little lower!
作者: hkparent 時間: 13-1-22 17:53 標題: 回覆:CarrieTse 的帖子
I see. You may still apply and perhaps wait for a couple of years for a spot. Some foreign kids may go back to their home countries at upper secondary and release places.
Unless aiming at Oxbridge, I can't see the case for sending a 13-year old kid to UK as it will definitely weaken the parent-child bond in future.

作者: demio 時間: 13-1-24 11:56
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Thanks, peter-pan 
作者: 大眼仔mama 時間: 13-1-24 22:26
前面有幾位說Oundle非常commercial, 但我並不覺得, 可能阿仔是考Lower Sixth, 同低班程序有所不同. 其實我地對送囝囝去英國升學, 在上年6月之前都無任何準備, 係有點即慶, 突然覺得有需要, 於是便同老公分頭問人同攞意見. Oundle不是AA介紹的, 也不在AA的Top school list, 是朋友極力推薦的. 後來問AA, 經佢地做左第一次聯絡, 之後我地直接同Oundle deal, 包括interview and entrance exam. Interview 在shangri-la business centre, 囝囝入房見半個鐘, 我同老公在外面見在半個鐘. 喜歡Oundle是因為Chinese and Asian比較少, 係一間幾local既學校, 佢地Lower Sixth每年插班收好少學生, 要Year 11有學生退學唔讀Year 12才有位, 在佢地website都有寫Lower Sixth每年收約十幾人, 香港大約佔幾個. Oundle不是strong at Science既學校, 佢地文理科學生係一半半, 什至文科比較多, 所以公開試成績會較unstable, 但不是他們質數差.
另外, Oundle本來收左囝囝, offer左academic scholarship,仲比埋first term fee. 如果不是Tonbridge後來收左, 我地都已經好心滿意足, 但Tonbridge實在太勁, 無可抗拒. 而Oundle知道我地唔讀, 佢地竟然肯refund番成期first term fee比我地, 只收registration fee, 這點証明他們不是那麼commercial, 只向錢看.
從朋友那對在Oundle畢業入左LSE同Cambridge既子女, 到我地親自同佢地老師同chairman傾談, 加上AA大力推薦同比意見, 我自己放棄左, 但唔希望大家對這間好學校, 未試未見就留有壊印象.
希望大家的子女都能入到理想既學校, 學有所成.
作者: demio 時間: 13-1-25 02:04
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大眼仔mama,
我地對Oundle印象很好, 老公有同事的仔女係度讀書,而老公亦去過學校及同registrar見面傾過, 所以我地都好希望呀仔入到.
你仔仔好叻, 入到Tonbridge. 我唔知呀仔入唔入到我地希望佢入的學校, 但我地只係考慮男女校,因為重有個妹,希望佢地可以係同一間學校讀書.
作者: CPU1995 時間: 13-1-25 07:43 標題: 引用:前面有幾位說Oundle非常commercial,+但我並
本帖最後由 CPU1995 於 13-1-25 08:11 編輯
原帖由 大眼仔mama 於 13-01-24 發表
前面有幾位說Oundle非常commercial, 但我並不覺得, 可能阿仔是考Lower Sixth, 同低班程序有所不同. 其實我 ...
其實我就算覺得Oundle同Brighton幾commercial,2間都是成績甚好每級中國學生甚少的好學校,阿大的師兄個個在此畢業唔係London u就係Cambridge.
反而小兒放棄了幾間排名相若的私校而入了一間申請入學時排名還高過Oundle及Brighton官校讀year 12真是發覺官校真是很自由,功課少,冇任何硬性規定的課外活動,体育堂一星期一堂,冇書本提供和 由開學至今連progress report或成績表email都未收過。

作者: HKdevil 時間: 13-1-25 13:36 標題: 回覆:CPU1995 的帖子
Cpu1995 now that i know your son experience, i dont think i will apply for it for my son! The one that my girls go to is seriously very good. I have received two progress reports ,met teachers in hk to discuss my kids progress and they both received promotions in sets. My girl might go to oxbridge for further study too.

作者: HKdevil 時間: 13-1-25 13:46 標題: 回覆:HKdevil 的帖子
I said might because oxbridge is not her first choice. She prefers RAM or Guildhall .

作者: CPU1995 時間: 13-1-26 07:29 標題: 引用:Cpu1995+now+that+i+know+your+son+experie
原帖由 HKdevil 於 13-01-25 發表
Cpu1995 now that i know your son experience, i dont think i will apply for it for my son! The one th ...
所以阿細都冇考阿哥間學校,反而交了半個term留位費俾另一私校2014讀year9.
不過阿大學校讀書風氣甚好,他的同學都target A level 4科A star, 而去年GCSE攞10個A都有近40%學生。
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