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作者: Mrs.S 時間: 12-11-26 15:27 標題: d大陸同學仔...... 抽中, 香港人d仔女, 就.......

我班幼稚園d大陸同學仔...... 十幾個, 個個都抽中, 入左. 得我地d 幾個...香港人d仔女, 就....... 等下一次抽獎.....真慘

作者: 麥兜媽 時間: 12-11-26 15:30 標題: 回覆：d大陸同學仔...... 抽中, 香港人d仔女, 就.......

好唔開心

作者: skmibb 時間: 12-11-26 15:32 標題: 引用：我班幼稚園d大陸同學仔......+十幾個,+個個

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我班幼稚園d大陸同學仔...... 十幾個, 個個都抽中, 入左. 得我地d 幾個...香港人d仔女, 就....... 等下一次 ...

佢地頂多十五分，點會抽到？

作者: ha8mo 時間: 12-11-26 15:37

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Mrs.S 發表於 12-11-26 15:27
我班幼稚園d大陸同學仔...... 十幾個, 個個都抽中, 入左. 得我地d 幾個...香港人d仔女, 就....... 等下一次 ...

咁你唔抽番自己母校？！

作者: purplemelody 時間: 12-11-26 17:03

其實唔只自行多雙非同學仔抽,私立直資更甚,我見好多名都係大陸拼音,佢地應該佔了好大部份,搞到我地無曬棧會

作者: ha8mo 時間: 12-11-26 17:07

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作者: Mrs.S 時間: 12-11-26 17:22

好唔開心

作者: bighead9849 時間: 12-11-26 17:23

唉, 我覺得, 有能力就搬離北區吧啦.....個度淪陷左了

作者: Twins-Baby 時間: 12-11-26 17:23

無計啦, 我嗰日見到有個人帶咗個大陸爸去交自行分配張表, 個香港男人同啲老師打哂招呼又話佢啲仔女之前係度讀, 又問邊個邊個仲响唔响度教, 最攪笑係佢仲見到校長問可唔可以幫吓佢個大陸朋友, 老實講, 我真係想出聲串佢, 咁幫啲大陸人, 咪變相害咗我哋啲香港同胞, 我不是鼓吹港獨, 我真的希望香港人係優先好啲囉. :;pppp:

作者: ha8mo 時間: 12-11-26 17:25

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作者: Twins-Baby 時間: 12-11-26 17:27

大家唔好灰心啦, 仲有一次抽, 我哋香港人係有好多特質係啲內地人一世都學唔到, 唔係話一定無, 但好少內地人做到我哋香港人有的內涵

作者: Twins-Baby 時間: 12-11-26 17:31

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係, 因為我們父母一生都獻了給香港, 我們這一代也是, 給我們下一代享有我們的成果係理所當然!!!

作者: gigi1227 時間: 12-11-26 17:44

bighead9849 發表於 12-11-26 17:23
唉, 我覺得, 有能力就搬離北區吧啦.....個度淪陷左了

真係要注意一下自己仔女個年又幾多雙非港童.....

我想跟住一二年都會好慘...小心選校

作者: Mrs.S 時間: 12-11-26 17:52

我果區都超多大陸人........65區 !

作者: Mrs.S 時間: 12-11-26 17:56

其實多公共屋邨的地方, 會有很多大陸新移民..啦

作者: elisliu 時間: 12-11-26 18:01

我都係等大抽獎

作者: gigi1227 時間: 12-11-26 18:09

等結果到下年6月1日

作者: vestzs 時間: 12-11-26 18:10 標題: 引用：其實多公共屋邨的地方,+會有很多大陸新移民

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其實多公共屋邨的地方, 會有很多大陸新移民..啦

新公屋村聽人用國內方言仲多過廣東話

作者: Twins-Baby 時間: 12-11-26 18:16

我們的仔女要努力學好啲英文加強自己香港人的優勢. 今日抽唔到心儀學校, 唔代表仔女一世都會輸比啲強國人. 一生人咁長, 仲有大把機會爭長短.

作者: boomGi 時間: 12-11-26 18:46 標題: 引用：Quote:Twins-Baby+發表於+12-11-26+17:23+

原帖由 ha8mo 於 12-11-26 發表
不是港獨呀，是真正香港人在香港生活應有的權利

你咁講同港獨有咩分别？？？:;pppp:

作者: HelicopterDad 時間: 12-11-26 18:46 標題: 引用：大家唔好灰心啦,+仲有一次抽,+我哋香港人係

原帖由 Twins-Baby 於 12-11-26 發表
大家唔好灰心啦, 仲有一次抽, 我哋香港人係有好多特質係啲內地人一世都學唔到, 唔係話一定無, 但好少內地人 ...

我同我家庭係百份百香港人，我地冇報自行因為阿仔最多得15分。我都好同情自行唔得既家長。不過我見咁多人將自行失敗推左落去所謂大陸人就不太同意。無論阿爸阿媽係邊度來，個小孩都係百份百香港人，我地不應排擠佢地。再者說甚麼大陸人唔夠我地自家香港人既質素等等，容或我地的確見到一些不太有素質既內地人，正如我地天天也見到沒有品格的香港人一樣，冇品既人係冇分地域既。不過如果咁就認同我地香港人比"大陸人＂好好多，我只能説講這話的人很多也是井底之蛙，只憑電視，議員同深圳經驗就下定論。咁樣對我地下一代百害而無一利。我反而教我既孩子努力用所有可行方法裝備好自己，同千萬唔好小看將來來自內地既人既挑戰。再者面對這些挑戰從來都不是保護主義地唔比佢地來就得。與其灌輸恕恨心情比下一代，不如同佢地積極面對，裝備將來重好啦。

作者: hoihoima 時間: 12-11-26 18:54

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If you are talking about 私立直資, then chances are given to those who are prepared. Why blame d大陸同學?

作者: Twins-Baby 時間: 12-11-26 19:16

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佢哋啲大陸人認為大陸係好就唔會拼了條命都落香港生仔. 我有個好友係內地人, 她讀美術學院出身, 嫁了香港人, 住了有七年, 她也看不過她的內地同胞的特質. 我不是教人歧視非本地人, 但若果佢哋唔係來賣淫洗黑錢, 不理小童定老人家都打尖推撞, 個個有學識, 有品守規矩, 能尊重我們的生活習慣, 我絶對歡迎他們, 我平時見到香港人不禮貌或不守規矩係有, 但不及大陸人的次數多, 我家住在港島區, 不是其他家長住正重災區, 但真係替她們不值的是...小朋友真係近咩以咩, 做家長的要在家去改變小朋友受外來不良影響是很難, 孟母三遷. 若果我們不用以前的一套教下一代, 香港只會成為深圳. 我的好友內地媽咪也說, "大陸人的水平比我們香港人要落後好多年" 不得不承認他們經濟強, 但人都要講質數. 我的好朋友, 我亦視她為香港人, 我們還去慶祝她取得永久身份証. 我想你不會叫你小朋友學大陸人的無品不守規矩的特質呱, 我要食飯慶祝自行派位有我份. 你保重了

作者: giannapoon 時間: 12-11-26 19:32 標題: 回覆：Twins-Baby 的帖子

唔好討論到人嘅質素咁深入，顯淺啲淨係講雙非家長無係香港交過任何稅，而佢哋嘅仔女嚟香港讀私校還可，有有錢去讀哈羅，但考直資同抽津校係咪過份咗呢?用香港納稅人嘅錢去資助無係香港交過稅嘅外人同返香港納稅人爭，甚至鯨吞佢哋應享嘅福利，咁同強盜，蝗蟲有乜分別?

作者: Jen123 時間: 12-11-26 19:34 標題: 回覆：giannapoon 的帖子

10000 分同意！

作者: Jen123 時間: 12-11-26 19:39 標題: 回覆：Jen123 的帖子

我認為香港所以能夠有今天的成就，是因為公平，如果讓一些甚麼乜非，乜非的人不是用一種令人信服的手段取得利益，是香港人不能夠隨便接受的，這應該是一般香港人的核心價值。

作者: chingmamama 時間: 12-11-26 19:42 標題: 回覆：d大陸同學仔...... 抽中, 香港人d仔女, 就.......

其實世襲仲恐怖，令到貧者越貧，富者越富. 自小很貧窮，沒有能力到市區名校。原來是會影響下一代。

作者: ha8mo 時間: 12-11-26 19:46

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作者: HelicopterDad 時間: 12-11-26 19:56 標題: 引用：回復+HelicopterDad+的帖子佢哋啲大陸人

原帖由 Twins-Baby 於 12-11-26 發表
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佢哋啲大陸人認為大陸係好就唔會拼了條命都落香港生仔. 我有個好友係內地人, ...

我只可以同你講，你所見所聞所聽所信不是事實的全部。可能我地仍然留住過往香港成功既虛榮感。不過仍然咁惗人地係一件非常危險既事。我因工作𨶹係見過好多地方既人，尤其是年輕人，我的經歷在在警告我不可有一丁點小看內地同胞。再者香港的成功不全是我地質素高。只是我地好彩，因有歷史，政治同地沿關係等等不同的因素使然。記住，貧無三代，富無三代。我地既下一代剛好是3rd generation. 重Keep住覺得自己高高在上，又灌輸人地低過我地既思想比佢地。受害既只會係自己既仔女。都係嗰句。積極D面對，唔好只見人地眼中的刺，而見不到自己眼中的棟樑。只在意增加怨氣對每人都不好。

作者: saltato 時間: 12-11-26 20:08 標題: 引用：Quote:原帖由+Twins-Baby+於+12-11-26+發表

原帖由 HelicopterDad 於 12-11-26 發表
我只可以同你講，你所見所聞所聽所信不是事實的全部。可能我地仍然留住過往香港成功既虛榮感。不過仍然咁惗 ...

我真係好認同你！

作者: JuliaCKL 時間: 12-11-26 20:12 標題: 引用：Quote:原帖由+Twins-Baby+於+12-11-26+發表

原帖由 HelicopterDad 於 12-11-26 發表
我只可以同你講，你所見所聞所聽所信不是事實的全部。可能我地仍然留住過往香港成功既虛榮感。不過仍然咁惗 ...

我都認同

作者: sissy0531 時間: 12-11-26 23:08 標題: 回覆：HelicopterDad 的帖子

終於有較清醒及中立的發言！很認同你所講！唔夠人爭，要自我反省下自己仔女點解會輸比人，而唔係一味埋怨！如若似某D人所講"大陸人素質差＂，咁如若學校真係咁懵，寧願收個素質差都唔收你個小朋友，咁說明乜嘢？身教好重要，家長的一言一行都會影響個小朋友，我相信學校揀學生的標準係公平公正！下下遇到唔如意就係他人身上揾原因，我認為呢種身教實在極失敗！

作者: puilingchung 時間: 12-11-26 23:34 標題: 引用：唔好討論到人嘅質素咁深入，顯淺啲淨係講雙

原帖由 giannapoon 於 12-11-26 發表
唔好討論到人嘅質素咁深入，顯淺啲淨係講雙非家長無係香港交過任何稅，而佢哋嘅仔女嚟香港讀私校還可，有有 ...

同意！

作者: TY33819 時間: 12-11-27 09:38

雖然我地唔應該帶"有色眼鏡"睇大陸人, 有d的確都好有教養。但樓主心中都只係發洩不滿的情緒... 我明白hk既法例"包容"了某d人刻意來港生仔拿著數--你夠擔問心/問人地, 佢地咁喜歡來係咪因為貪我地呢度教育制度好, 法治好, 福利好... 明眼人都知, 難道你有其他更好的理由解釋佢地來洗生b??? 明知人地係抱住"過來拿著數"既心態, 又真係眼白白見到佢地"佔用"了我地d資源, 有乜方法會開心先得 GA? 我知我地要自強, 但人都有情緒的..

作者: iamfansma 時間: 12-11-27 09:43

Twins-Baby 發表於 12-11-26 18:16
我們的仔女要努力學好啲英文加強自己香港人的優勢. 今日抽唔到心儀學校, 唔代表仔女一世都會輸比啲強國人. ...

唔好話我歧視,真係唔想個仔同佢哋一齊學野,我個仔同強國人呀女在通利學琴,個女仔踎在櫈上彈,何其"高貴",而且我哋仲要ROTATE個位的

作者: iamfansma 時間: 12-11-27 09:46

TY33819 發表於 12-11-27 09:38
雖然我地唔應該帶"有色眼鏡"睇大陸人, 有d的確都好有教養。但樓主心中都只係發洩不滿的情緒... 我明白hk既 ...

有好少部份香港的強國人係有教養的,好多係暴發戶,連大陸人都知係咁
我住西區,遇到太多了,連HKU強國學生都會一手推走我個仔坐緊O個架BB車, 推了兩次,我話佢先道歎

作者: MCLIAN 時間: 12-11-27 11:44 標題: 引用：Quote:原帖由+Twins-Baby+於+12-11-26+發表

原帖由 HelicopterDad 於 12-11-26 發表
我只可以同你講，你所見所聞所聽所信不是事實的全部。可能我地仍然留住過往香港成功既虛榮感。不過仍然咁惗 ...

我不贊成以偏概全，你的意見也給我們很好的提醒，但其他家長的經歷也不能否定，我也親身見過到港後找福利棄老夫的例子，我覺得評論應該是針對事而不是針對人(如避免用內地人等统稱去概括所有內地人)。

作者: michelletang11 時間: 12-11-27 14:10

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作者: 海豚仔 時間: 12-11-27 14:31

睇完真係覺得太委屈佐這位彭太了.... 香港食又唔好, 地方又細, 仲不能申請公屋和綜援 --> 這位阿"太"都幾攪笑喎, 原來佢係香港生完沒有佢所想的福利都無更好像是香港人欠佐佢....唉唔怪得香港人真係唔夠佢地尼啦!!! 因為她的質數實在是太高了

( YAHOO NEWS ) 昨日教育局公布自行分配學位結果，家長可為子女選報任何一間學校。在北區上水惠州公立學校，育有一對女兒的雙非內地家長彭太，昨特意到校為幼女查看結果，得悉幼女順利入學後即面露笑容。

她表示，數年前先後在親戚建議下來港在私院誕下兩名女兒，長女經統一派位入讀惠州公立學校小一，幼女受惠世襲制亦獲惠州公立學校取錄，明年入讀該校小一。她表示，比較兩地教育制度後，認為本港較內地優勝，故安排長女來港讀書，今年幼女順理成章獲派同一學校
跨境接送喊苦「有得揀不會再來」

對於本地家長批評雙非世襲生侵蝕本地生學額，彭太反駁指港人不理解雙非家長。她說：「雙非家長不能申請公屋和綜援，而升小派位機制是公平競爭；大家都是中國人，唔好好似我哋（雙非家長）欠咗你（港人）咁。」她認為雙非小朋友也有權在港讀書，也有助香港經濟，雙方應互相包容。不過她坦言，現時自己接送女兒跨境上學，每日來回近4小時十分辛苦，又指若可重新選擇不會來港產子，因為「香港食又唔好，住屋又細，有得揀都唔會再揀（來港）」。

作者: KA713 時間: 12-11-27 15:00

海豚仔發表於 12-11-27 14:31
睇完真係覺得太委屈佐這位彭太了.... 香港食又唔好, 地方又細, 仲不能申請公屋和綜援 --> 這位阿"太"都幾 ...

好心佢執到就立吓品啦, 仲怨......

而家佢冇得揀咩,有人用槍指住佢唔比佢對寶貝女在國內/出國讀書發揚光大而攞苦來辛?包食包住all包仲要係上等的先對得起妳?

作者: 飛機師 時間: 12-11-27 23:08

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真係不知所謂....

作者: 飛機師 時間: 12-11-27 23:08

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我係講個政策...

作者: Mrs.S 時間: 12-11-29 14:59

大家唔好灰心啦, 仲有一次抽

作者: connie@lmh 時間: 12-11-29 15:11

唉！！E+真系好難啊！！

作者: OSCAR-SHIRLEY 時間: 12-11-29 18:36

我識到位國語人兼雙非，財大氣粗，話佢個女入到聖士提反同美國國際學校，仲話我們的官小津小教唔出叻學生，又話香港地方細屋又細，連狗都唔識吠...我當堂唔知俾乜反應，唉，咁你又要來，又無人逼你來！道不同不相為謀，下次見到都係兜路行。

作者: Gottosay 時間: 12-11-30 16:54

本帖最後由 Gottosay 於 12-11-30 16:54 編輯

I know my post may really step on somebody's nerves. I still decided to add my two cents here because finally in this post I saw some very rare comments from real Hong Kong people who actually reflect on themselves and today's Hong Kong instead of pointing fingers to another group of people, which is so much easier in any difficulties.
Yes, I am from mainland and have only been in Hong Kong for a short time. Also I haven't lived in China for quite some years. So I may be biased, but my opinions may provide a perspective of an outsider.
The point I want to make is: the world has changed and Hong Kong has changed as well, not in a good way. You need to fresh up your mind and get ready to change.
The first thing has puzzled me ever since I got here is: why such hatred toward mainland people? I've lived in many places around the world and Hong Kong is where I got the most discrimination only because I speak Putonghua. Sure I can get my way around easily by speaking English, sometimes too easy (so sad). Why should I hide to be a mainlander as I am proud to be Chinese? And in return I got discrimination everywhere. Believe me, my manner is flawless. Of course we also have warm and friendly people everywhere too and my respect goes to them.
And now in this virtual world where should be full of loving and caring parents who appreciate education and self-respect, I am surprised to see so many narrow-minded comments. You have every right to comment on the behavior of the mainlanders you've seen, but please leave generalization, stereotype and hatred out. As mentioned in some of the posts, you need to face the new challenges by getting prepared, not bashing your competitors.
Where is the Hong Kong it claims to be: the international city in Asia? Where is the confidence and openness to accept all people and cultures? Years ago, the Hong Kong in my mind was an open society rising from challenges with extremely hard-working people. Now, sadly Hong Kong is not getting better, if it's not getting worse both economically and politically. Of course there is a lot to blame and some things we can never change. However, avoiding the big problems and simply pointing fingers will not accomplish anything.
I think everybody who lives in Hong Kong wants to see a Hong Kong in its Tang dynasty, not Qing dynasty.

作者: Mrs.S 時間: 12-12-6 17:57

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Gottosay 發表於 12-11-30 16:54
I know my post may really step on somebody's nerves. I still decided to add my two cents here becaus ...

作者: Gottosay 時間: 12-12-7 17:36

MrBeast, I didn't quite get what you meant. Do you mean that mainlanders can only earn respect by showing off their money? I hope not. First, you assumed every mandarin speaker is bad-mannered jerk worth no respect. Then I highly doubt that you'll put Hong Kong people at such low level -- money can buy their respect, even to jerks. Second, a civilized society respects each individual by who s/he is, not by anything else such as race or what language s/he speaks. This also reminds me how ridiculously some Hong Kong people discriminate against Filipino helpers.

作者: michelletang11 時間: 12-12-7 20:05

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My helper told me that from her friends' experience, those employers originally from mainland seem respect them much more than the local hongkongers whose requirement is too high for them.

作者: MrBeast 時間: 12-12-7 22:49

Gottosay 發表於 12-12-7 17:36
MrBeast, I didn't quite get what you meant. Do you mean that mainlanders can only earn respect by sh ...

looks like its me who stepped on someones nerves. what I meant was that its not 100% true that mainlanders get discrimination everywhere, the most obvious places are where biz from mainlanders are welcomed (and I dont mean those are the only places). you might not like it too much but it is how it is. discrimination exists everywhere, not just hong kong and please try to understand where the current bad sentiment come from.

作者: CaCaDad 時間: 12-12-7 23:31 標題: 回覆：michelletang11 的帖子

That's true! My maid told me that Mainland China master can't communicate well with her friend in English, they just want her to teach their kids for English and no demanding on any others since the maid pretends she can't follow her cooking instruction in her way of English, the master finally cook by herself.

The maid has so much spare time to chatter with my maid and my maid has to stop her!

Respect or lack of delegation and communication are two different things.

作者: michelletang11 時間: 12-12-8 09:20

本帖最後由 michelletang11 於 12-12-8 09:25 編輯

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actually those mainlander employers were all stayed in those English speaking countries, like the States, UK etc for many years before they came to HK. As I know, many PTH speakers of course who can speak good English are working in high tech area with not bad salary in HK. And most of them treat their helpers with respect.
Of course there are some mainlander employers use their helpers to creat an English enviroment for theri children. I can't see what's wrong with it. U seem really look down them.

I think ur maid's friend has not a good personality. Her way to treat her employer is ugly.

作者: michelletang11 時間: 12-12-8 13:06

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By the way I think u may not cook much or train ur maid how to cook. It doesn't need know much English to teach cook. U generally need to show them how to cook with very simple English. Even my Mum who doesn't know English at all can teach my helper how to cook some dishes.

I think either the employer of ur maid's friend is too nice or ur maid's friend is too lazy. No matter what she met a nice employer.

作者: CaCaDad 時間: 12-12-8 15:01 標題: 回覆：michelletang11 的帖子

Just to share my real experience which is the true Mainland China master instead of the overseas immigrated Mainland China master.

Don't take take too personal!

作者: flopsybunnies 時間: 12-12-8 19:30 標題: 回覆：ha8mo 的帖子

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