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作者: ngmyan 時間: 12-11-1 06:18 標題: SIS admission test for p1

Does any one know the details such as the format required? Is it in multiple choice questions? Need to complete how many questions? N it takes how long?

Thanks a lot.

作者: ngmyan 時間: 12-11-2 07:44 標題: 回覆：SIS admission test for p1

Anyone can help？ thanks.

作者: do123alex 時間: 12-11-2 09:51 標題: 回覆：ngmyan 的帖子

When will be the assessment?

作者: elmostoney 時間: 12-11-6 11:11

本帖最後由 elmostoney 於 12-11-6 11:14 編輯

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作者: ngmyan 時間: 12-11-6 12:48 標題: 回覆：elmostoney 的帖子

thanks elmostoney, the assessment for Chinese is it in simplified Chinese?

作者: elmostoney 時間: 12-11-7 11:29

you can expect it to be simplified characters. The truth is, their admission standards for Chinese and English are quite different. English requirement is tougher than Chinese. The characters which they asked my daughter to recognize and write are simple ones such as 羊, so there is essentially not much difference between simplified and traditional.

HOWEVER, my friend told me that they have recently changed their Chinese curriculum and are using the set of books of St Paul Co-Ed, only changing the contents to simplified. I don't know if this new situation will affect the P1 admission test requirement.

作者: elmostoney 時間: 12-11-7 11:34

本帖最後由 elmostoney 於 12-11-7 11:39 編輯

also, bear in mind that P1 only have about 10 to 15 spaces open for application. Out of all applicants, Singaporean will have priority. I have encountered 2 Singaporean friends who delayed their children to admission until PY2 or after, and of course, in their cases, it was instant admission. So after you discount Singaporean applicants, there are definitely a handful of spaces available only and far fewer than the published 10 to 15. So if the applicant is not Singaporean, he/she needs to do exceptionally well to be admitted.

作者: ngmyan 時間: 12-11-7 13:00 標題: 回覆：elmostoney 的帖子

thanks a lot, elmostoney, so you mean last year your two Singaporean friends can get in straight right? as I heard that even Singaporean may not have the seat secured. this year the competition may be even harder for more kids.

作者: DonaldTsang 時間: 12-11-7 22:17 標題: 回覆：SIS admission test for p1

So do you mean that most of the students in p1are from the reception class?

作者: elmostoney 時間: 12-11-8 08:01

I don't remember the exact number, but as I understand, let's say e.g. PY1 has 15 students/class. PY2 will have 18/class and Year 1 20/class. So you get the number. if they have 4 to 5 class, you just multiply the new spaces in each class every year and you know how many openings. The number of students in each class as I remember, is roughly correct, may be off a little. But I remember every year from PY1 to Year 1, they only have 10 to 15 new spaces. So if you don't get in PY1 and you are no Singaporean, you chances are minimal unless the child is exceptional.

My friends whose children are Singaporean got in straight in PY2. Year 1 is more difficult because there is written test. As far as I know, for PY2, if you are Singaporean, and you can answer simple question such as your name, age, etc. (ie. you can communicate) then you can get in.

作者: FattyDaddy 時間: 12-11-8 11:27

Sorry this is off topic but I can't help but express my sadness.

Singapore is a society not unlike Hongkong, just as there are many Singaporeans living in Hongkong, there are many Hongkongers living in Singapore too.

Here we see a Singapore International School serving Singaporeans primarily but many Hongkongers are eager to send their children to. No such thing as a Hongkong International School in Singapore, or any foreign country for that matter.

Hongkong used to be a place which Singapore looks up to, and this just goes to show how much Hongkong had gone downhill, for reasons which are obvious to everyone but not very mentionable under Hongkong's new masters.

作者: ngmyan 時間: 12-11-8 12:57 標題: 回覆：FattyDaddy 的帖子

dear fattydaddy,

every school has its own strengthness n shortness. I like the all round n structural academic system of sis, but I don't like it using simplified Chinese.

Hong Kong schools, dds or better say many hk international school emphase too much on freedom, on which I don't think that children should be left free when their thinking skill is not yet developed.

I like Japanese school for teaching order n obedience but their English is not good enough.

I just think that we choose the appropriate school for our kids. some ppl want free n easy, then go ahead, some want more discipline, then go for the school in that direction. if our govt is smarter, they should have done better in our education system.

however nowadays hk, every policy comes out, will cause a lot of noise, it may cause the society cannot move forward.

作者: ngmyan 時間: 12-11-8 13:04 標題: 回覆：elmostoney 的帖子

We just submitted it for primary one.

my kid is end Dec 2007, as per their admission policy, it should be p1. don't know if can let her defer a year to study py2

if easier to get in but last time one of our Singaporean friends said that she fought very hard, 4-5mth to get in py2, that's why we try primary 1.

作者: shadeslayer 時間: 12-11-9 13:20 標題: 引用：We+just+submitted+it+for+primary+one. +

原帖由 ngmyan 於 12-11-08 發表
We just submitted it for primary one.

my kid is end Dec 2007, as per their admission policy, it sh ...

I just think that we choose the appropriate school for our kids. some ppl want free n easy, then go ahead, some want more discipline, then go for the school in that direction.

Shadeslayer:

SIS is not my cup of tea. People choose schools with different reasons, I have nothing against SIS. But if you think other IS are in general free and easy. I suggest that you try to find out more about the good ISes.

作者: ngmyan 時間: 12-11-9 15:12 標題: 回覆：shadeslayer 的帖子

I feel that many of the is will emphrasize more in teaching the student how to think and analyse and less in discipline contro，that what i mean for the free and easyl

作者: HKTHK 時間: 12-11-9 17:04

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I don't think analytical thinking and discipline are mutually exclusive?

作者: DonaldTsang 時間: 12-11-10 23:32 標題: 引用：We+just+submitted+it+for+primary+one. +

原帖由 ngmyan 於 12-11-08 發表
We just submitted it for primary one.

my kid is end Dec 2007, as per their admission policy, it sh ...

Do u know they have strict policy on age? However I don't see it on the website. I also want to apply P1 in the future so when should I do it? One year ahead or two years ahead? Thanks

作者: ngmyan 時間: 12-11-11 10:36 標題: 回覆：DonaldTsang 的帖子

You can refer to their admission policy.
Coz we may have to go back to Singapore later, the school term starts from jan n end dec for the child born in that year until 2/1 of the year following that academic year. Say if my girl study in singapore, sh can study in primary 1 with school term 2013 jan only. But here in hk we can choose to be big child, that's why we are so concerned in it as we have to consider the set back solution.

Can apply one year before the term can already.

作者: lui 時間: 12-11-11 10:43 標題: 引用：you+can+expect+it+to+be+simplified+chara

原帖由 elmostoney 於 12-11-07 發表
you can expect it to be simplified characters. The truth is, their admission standards for Chinese ...

I wonder how come the admission is far more harder than the local one? I mean the local prestige schools? I went through all IS website but not SIS, is their P1 equ to local P1? If it is the case, I would say "NO"!

作者: lui 時間: 12-11-11 10:53 標題: 引用：We+just+submitted+it+for+primary+one. +

原帖由 ngmyan 於 12-11-08 發表
We just submitted it for primary one.

my kid is end Dec 2007, as per their admission policy, it sh ...

Are you mixing up py2 with p2? Py 1 and py2 is the years before year 1! You can defer your 2007 born child to py2 actually .

作者: elmostoney 時間: 12-11-12 10:07

lui, py1 and py2 are K2 and K3.  SIS Year 1 = local Primary 1.

Nobody said SIS is more difficult in its admission test.  They certainly require better English ability than local prestigious schools.  From what I know, local prestigious schools ask verbal questions such as 2 - 4 =? ; 15 X 18 = ?  If you don't think this it difficult, I don't know what is.

In addition, even if SIS sets a higher standard in admission than LS, I don't see a problem. It is a private school independent of the HK gov't, so it can do as it pleases.  It is the parents' choice.  I am not saying SIS is better than top LS, but whether top LS is everybody's cup of tea (or if one regards them as better) is entirely another matter.  For me, even if top LS admits my children, I have NO plans to send them there!!!

作者: minirat 時間: 12-11-12 11:19

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FattyDaddy 發表於 12-11-8 11:27
Sorry this is off topic but I can't help but express my sadness.

Singapore is a society not unlike ...

I am a Singaporean who is working and living in HK for almost 9 years.  Speaking from my point of view, most Singaporeans in HK are merely working or living here, and are still holding Singapore citizenship and will probably go back to Singapore one day.  However Hongkongers in Singapore are mostly new immigrants in Singapore and will probably try to adapt into the local culture and hence local schools.  This perhaps explains why there is a SIS in HK, but not vice versa.  Correct me if I am wrong.

It is true Singaporeans used to look up to Hong Kong and we admired Hongkongers, I vaguely remember this when I was a child.  Singapore picked up fast in the last 2 decades.  It is however difficult to compare the two cities.  Singapore is an independent country, tiny, no natural resources, and completely dependable on our own people.  Hong Kong on the other hand is not a country, strictly speaking, but a city, with backup from Mainland China.  Political aspects and approaches can be very different.

My 2-cents thought.  Hong Kong is not only facing the doubt on new government capabilities, but also the people's mentality.  No country or city will be strong without the love from her people.  What I see is, Hongkongers are complaining everyday about everything.  Apparently strikes have become a routine.  We want our children and next generation to grow up in a environment with love and positive elements, don't we?

Back to SIS.  I am just an ordinary Singaporean who wish to send my child to our own school, coz there is always a chance that we might relocate back home for good one fine day.  However I am surprised with the level of popularity SIS has managed to obtain over the past years in HK.  I hope this aggravating situation will not jeopardise the chance of SIngaporeans who are the "needy" users.

作者: FattyDaddy 時間: 12-11-12 11:42

minirat 發表於 12-11-12 11:19
My 2-cents thought. Hong Kong is not only facing the doubt on new government capabilities, but also the people's mentality. No country or city will be strong without the love from her people. What I see is, Hongkongers are complaining everyday about everything ...

It is true that if a government faces lots of opposition from all walks of society, it cannot do much, but then we have to examine what they are trying to do. Lets say if the HK government were trying to bring universal suffrage to HK as soon as possible, I'm sure they can push that through at lighting speed with lots of cooperation from Hongkongers. If what they are trying to do is to take civic rights away from Hongkongers, I guess it is natural that they would face overwhelming opposition. The question is, who initiated all these confrontations? In most cases it was the government trying to push unpopular or even draconian policies (e.g. Article 23), and if they fail they try to package their failure as Hongkongers being uncoorperative.

Anyway, enough about politics. I concur with your decision regarding SIS, I would do the same if I'm in your position. If HK had gone downhill (compared to SG) and has an uncertain future, why invest your children's future in it? {:1_1:}

作者: shadeslayer 時間: 12-11-12 13:01 標題: 引用：+本帖最後由+minirat+於+12-11-12+11:22+編

原帖由 minirat 於 12-11-12 發表
本帖最後由 minirat 於 12-11-12 11:22 編輯

The way I see it, it is actually one of HK's core value to be able to complain about everything (if we really complaint about everything) without worrying too much about retaliation and getting into jail. The way we complain and protest are comparatively more civilized.

Everybody has the right to complain and their issues to the street. Not all complains and protests will end well but they all have the right to do so in Hong Kong. Not many places in Asia you have that freedom.

Things develop slower like this? Yes, but I think freedom is much harder to come by.

作者: minirat 時間: 12-11-12 14:37

FattyDaddy 發表於 12-11-12 11:42
It is true that if a government faces lots of opposition from all walks of society, it cannot do muc ...

I am not a political person actually, and definitely don't think Hong Kong is a bad place. In fact, my husband is a Hongkonger too and I am already quite used to the life in Hong Kong. Personally I hope that my boy can grow up in an environment with more positive elements. If he cannot love his country and the place he lives in, how can we expect him to love his family and love himself? As for SIS, it's merely my sense of belonging. Practically it would be easier for me since I went through the similar curriculum.

作者: ngmyan 時間: 12-11-12 15:12 標題: 回覆：minirat 的帖子

Hi minirat，
We are a couple of Singaporean husband n hongkonger wife, my hb moved here for 11 years. How old is your son? Also targeting for p1 in the forthcoming academic year.

作者: LeeMama328 時間: 12-11-12 16:22

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elmostoney 發表於 12-11-12 10:07
lui, py1 and py2 are K2 and K3. SIS Year 1 = local Primary 1.

Nobody said SIS is more difficult in ...

not trying to sabotage.......but 15x18 for P1 admission? I bet millions of adults in HK cannot come up with an answer without pen & paper.

作者: elmostoney 時間: 12-11-12 16:58

unfortunately, those questions are reported by my friends who have children going to prestigious LS for interviews this year. They are just as completely dumbfounded. From what I have heard, it's entirely possible, provided that you start sending the children to math classes at age 3.

作者: minirat 時間: 12-11-12 16:59

ngmyan 發表於 12-11-12 15:12
Hi minirat，
We are a couple of Singaporean husband n hongkonger wife, my hb moved here for 11 year ...

Hihi, my boy is only 16 months old, haaa! But I bet the competition will only get stiffer each year. It seems a little paranoid, but I got worried and thinking whether I should just go back to Singapore to avoid getting involved in these. Then again. Relocating the whole family is not an easy thing, and my husband's career is equally important.

How come your child did not try from PY1? Is your child holding Singapore passport as well?

作者: elmostoney 時間: 12-11-12 17:01

本帖最後由 elmostoney 於 12-11-12 17:05 編輯

2-4=? is asked by one school on eastern HK Island, while 15 X 18 (or something similar) by the topmost school in Kowloon - you get the picture.

If finance is not a concern, I don't see the point in going to LS where most English teachers cannot speak proper/fluent English and most Mandarin teachers cannot speak good Mandarin. The passing rate of the teacher standard test in English leaves me completely stricken - imagine our children taught by teachers of such calibre.

作者: lui 時間: 12-11-12 17:53 標題: 引用：lui,+py1+and+py2+are+K2+and+K3.++SIS+Yea

原帖由 elmostoney 於 12-11-12 發表
lui, py1 and py2 are K2 and K3. SIS Year 1 = local Primary 1.

Nobody said SIS is more difficult in ...

If I didn't get you wrong in your previous message, for a 5 years old kid, she or he is required to write something in English and Chinese words? I supposed it is not a copybook question. Maybe my standard is low, this is not acceptable to me.

作者: ngmyan 時間: 12-11-12 18:33 標題: 回覆：minirat 的帖子

coz I let my girl started studying from n1 then change to another school for k1 n want to let her learn traditional Chinese (pth). if py1 change to sis , she would have studied 3 schools in three years

so let her in in primary. yes she is Singaporean n need to go back Singapore before 21 years old to declare the nationality.

moving back is a very tough decision n big move, we are still thinking whether should let her join the p1 national allocation or not in the forthcoming Aug if sis does not give us a seat.

作者: minirat 時間: 12-11-12 20:46 標題: 引用：coz+I+let+my+girl+started+studying+from+

原帖由 ngmyan 於 12-11-12 發表
coz I let my girl started studying from n1 then change to another school for k1 n want to let her le ...

I understand where you are coming from. Apparently we will be in the same fix in time to come. And we probably need to make this decision earlier coz he needs to serve NS at 16 years old, hence we cannot wait till he is 21 years old.

作者: FattyDaddy 時間: 12-11-12 21:21

elmostoney 發表於 12-11-12 16:58
unfortunately, those questions are reported by my friends who have children going to prestigious LS ...

It is possible for a P1 applicant to do 15 x 18 by heart provided he/she had been trained in mental arithmetic.

Of course, doing the multiplication the normal way would be quite a handful even for adults, but what they do in mental arithmetic is to break down the problem into more manageable parts, e.g. ...

15 x 18 = 15 x 20 - 15 x 2 = 300 - 30 = 270

But in this computer age, mental arithmetic doesn't have much practical value when it is much quicker to grab a calculator and punch a few keys. In a way this reflects part of the problem with traditional teaching in local schools, children often learn skills which doesn't have much practical value.

作者: 一條毛 時間: 12-11-12 22:50

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'''But in this computer age, mental arithmetic doesn't have much practical value when it is much quicker to grab a calculator and punch a few keys.'''

I agree. However, wouldn't you also agree that teaching mental math would be a brain training apart from a arithmetic technique? I think that's why calculator is not allowed in junior year of IS as in LS.

作者: 一條毛 時間: 12-11-12 23:05

'''Hongkong International School in Singapore, or any foreign country for that matter.'''

What an interesting idea!

However, what curriculum will it adopt? NSS for the secondary students and 呈分試 for the primary? If so, I wonder any student will apply.

作者: HKTHK 時間: 12-11-12 23:12

I actually thought Singaporeans cannot attend international schools in Singapore?

作者: shadeslayer 時間: 12-11-13 07:45 標題: 引用：I+actually+thought+Singaporeans+cannot+a

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原帖由 HKTHK 於 12-11-12 發表
I actually thought Singaporeans cannot attend international schools in Singapore?

Correct, Singaporean are not allowed to send their kids to international schools in Singapore. Hong Kong people enjoy a huge amount of freedom compared with others but we take it for granted. We should feel blessed.

作者: minirat 時間: 12-11-13 09:41 標題: 引用：I+actually+thought+Singaporeans+cannot+a

原帖由 HKTHK 於 12-11-12 發表
I actually thought Singaporeans cannot attend international schools in Singapore?

Not entirely true. I know Singaporeans (both parents are also Singaporeans) who studied in international schools in Singapore.

作者: elmostoney 時間: 12-11-13 09:56

My Singaporean friend in HK checked and said that if the child previously lived overseas and had attended school, then upon returning to Singapore, will have the option to go to either local or international school.

作者: ngmyan 時間: 12-11-13 12:49 標題: 回覆：elmostoney 的帖子

Dear elmostoney， can u ask your friend how did she get this information? we are so frustrated about the estriction imposed for singaporean must study ls policy.

Thanks a lot.

作者: 112200 時間: 12-11-20 10:04

Hi elmostoney ,

As you mentioned SIS is using the set of chinese books same as ST paul co ed. may i know which year you are referring to ?? P1 / P2 / P3 ? really interest to know. manythanks.

作者: elmostoney 時間: 12-11-20 10:05

sorry, I don't know. Just my friend whose kids at SIS told me, and I don't see her very often.

作者: 112200 時間: 12-11-20 10:08

Oh thanks a lot.

作者: atirw 時間: 12-11-30 11:51 標題: 回覆：SIS admission test for p1

Does anyone know how many people apply for y1 each year? As the competition for dss is keen with a few thousands for each school. Just want to have an idea. Thanks

作者: avaya 時間: 12-11-30 12:15

Singapore Intl school is following the Singapore style education, which is "drill drill and drill", also same as those so call top local schools in HK. Honestly I don't like them teaching simplified Chinese....

作者: minirat 時間: 12-12-3 15:25

avaya 發表於 12-11-30 12:15
Singapore Intl school is following the Singapore style education, which is "drill drill and drill", ...

I will be grateful if everybody else share your views.

作者: avaya 時間: 12-12-3 15:40

If your kid is not Singaporean then he/she has to be very smart and strong in academic. Their interview test is quit difficult with questions at P.1 level. If your kid could get in, for sure he/she could also get into top schools like SPCC, DBS, DGS, Ying Wa etc.... Then why bother to go to SIS?

作者: Jane1983 時間: 12-12-3 20:54

True, very tough competition now.

作者: 一條毛 時間: 12-12-6 10:23

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Can you tell us how SIS drills their students? Why you compare SIS with other elite local schools?

作者: Leisurefan 時間: 12-12-6 11:05

Hi,

My kids are in P2 and P4 in SIS. They have been studying there since PY. Honestly, the workload in SIS is far less hectic than local schools. In fact, my P2 son has a lot of spare time. My P4 daughter does not have homework everyday. If she does, she can usually finish within an hour or so. We spend weekends on sports and leisure. Having said that, there are a lot of local kids whose moms arrange a lot of after school tuition and work for their kids in the hope that they could come first in class or better prepared for secondary. I'm a working mom and am quite easy, as long as they are doing fine. I only drill them before tests and exams. They love going to school and learning. What more can I ask for?

作者: minirat 時間: 12-12-10 12:45

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Good to hear that! I share your views about being easy, and hope I can do the same when it's my time. Both your kids must be bright to get into SIS. Are you Singaporean?

作者: Leisurefan 時間: 12-12-10 13:46

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We're from Hong Kong

作者: Leisurefan 時間: 12-12-10 13:47

I was lucky that competition into SIS was not that keen in my days!

作者: minirat 時間: 12-12-10 14:11

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What makes you choose SIS over other IS or even local schools?

作者: Leisurefan 時間: 12-12-10 14:57

As a working mom, the workload in local schools is something that I do not want my kids and myself to be tied down with. Next thing that I look at is the Chinese curriculum. It's important to me that my kids are exposed to Chinese learning everyday, and that's why.

作者: 一條毛 時間: 12-12-11 00:26

本帖最後由一條毛於 12-12-11 00:34 編輯

My son has been in SIS for several years and I never feel he is being drilled. I always wonder why some people says SIS drill her students. I don't know whether it is due to their misunderstanding, we are too insensitive, or SIS has a magic to drill her students without making them aware. May be SIS can drill her students under hypnosis, sedation or even anaethesia. Or, with the word "Singapore" in the school name is a sin!

Would someone know the answer please enlighten me?

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