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作者: hybon1 時間: 12-10-7 04:08 標題: TSL 老師唔重視孩子、冇愛心？！
My daughter loves and respects her teachers. She decided to draw a little picture to show appreciation to the TSL teacher she shall meet at the first interview today. After the interview, she brought me to go back to the teacher with her. She gave it to the teacher. Out of everyone's surprise, the teacher has a stern face without any sign of appreciation, refused to accept this small gift of heart from a little girl, asking her to hang it at home. Is that how teaching staff break innocent children's heart? Or to make matters complicated, is it possible that bribing gift be made out of a little pink recycled paper? This is absurd!
作者: cmt1010 時間: 12-10-7 09:59 標題: 回覆：TSL 老師唔重視孩子、冇愛心？！
從一開始學校唔收profo，大概便知到這是一所只看重小朋友，不需要型式做作的學校。或者學校擔心收得一個小朋友的畫，其他的家長又爭相仿效，便破壞了以上原則，所以老師會覺得唔方便收。其實尊重一個人，唔一定需要對方用硬性的方法去接受你的尊重。
作者: hybon1 時間: 12-10-7 11:09
cmt1010，謝謝你的回覆，那她大可以說這是不合規矩的，不好意思，但她沒有，因此不見得是什麼規矩。我也當過老師，木口木面的拒絕小孩的心意，實在見不到怎樣尊重和重視
作者: silvia_ng 時間: 12-10-7 11:38 標題: 回覆：TSL 老師唔重視孩子、冇愛心？！
咁又係唔應該木口木面既。。。不過見左幾千個小朋友比著我應該直頭黑面。其實樓主你都做過老師，應該知規舉，點解你會比個女帶畫去既？有冇諗過個個之後跟風會亂成點？！
我小朋友讀左4 年，老師都有愛心同包容。唔會只係你見一次半次就咁武斷話此校老師唔重視孩子冇愛心咁膚淺囉。如有得罪，就當時運高睇我唔到吧。
作者: carriebaby111 時間: 12-10-7 12:38 標題: 回覆：TSL 老師唔重視孩子、冇愛心？！
當住其他考生面前“利益輸送”？！老師收了可能會讓其他家長誤會，反而弄巧反拙！我覺得老師在這個情況下，不應該收！但我又明白孩子和媽媽被老師拒絕是不好受，但又不能貿然斷定此校的老師不好！樓主下次要提醒自己，“好意”也要看場合的，避免作出吃力不討好的情況
作者: 天使麵 時間: 12-10-7 12:47
cmt1010 發表於 12-10-7 09:59 
從一開始學校唔收profo，大概便知到這是一所只看重小朋友，不需要型式做作的學校。或者學校擔心收得一個小 ...
看到這個post，第一個想法就是公平避嫌，可以想像，收得一份，接著便會有無數的小禮物小文件蜂擁而至。身為家長，當然又不想子女的心機遭丟棄，但正如我在校的孩子所說，有沒有換轉想想老師學校的處境呢?
相信對老師們、校長(還有校工姨姨叔叔等)，均盡力務求讓來面試的孩子及陪同的家長們都有個舒適愉快的過程。
倘若這所學校的老師都沒愛心、不尊重人，何以昨日又能動員已畢業的師兄師姐放學後趕回來幫手?
看來小妹妹在過程中玩得愉快，請別把一時的拒絕放於心上，不同學校不同的面試陸續有黎呢!祝順利!
作者: hybon1 時間: 12-10-7 14:02
謝謝分享，你們認為老師們有愛心就好了，我們不在那裡上學，與老師們接觸就在面試時，我認為即使工作了一天，說聲謝謝倒是不難，而一張回收紙何來利益？我看不到，轉頭掉了也沒所謂。對不起，我沒有用有機心的想法去看，實在太單純了吧，而如果認為老師工作一天後仍需有基本禮貌是太高要求，那就讓它吧。願各位平安、快樂！=D
作者: carriebaby111 時間: 12-10-7 14:38 標題: 回覆：TSL 老師唔重視孩子、冇愛心？！
其實“利益輸送”是說笑，請樓主不要見怪，只是覺得如果我是老師，本來面試就是面試，沒有想過突如其來，有一位家長走出來，一時不知怎樣反應，又已經面試了全日，累到不得了……有這樣的反應不過份，樓主應該人性化一點去理解這件事，老師也是人，也會有累的一刻。如果她是服務性質行業，我覺得是她是不對，但她是老師呀……還有，老師不會無啦啦有這個反應，樓主會不會覺得，其實這樣做會有點不妥呢？先不說“機心”這樣大的題目，只是有否考慮到老師的感受和立場呢？定是覺得，如果老師笑笑口講句多謝，滿足了你，其他家長心裡真的沒有其他想法？！敏感的人看到了又會如何？我覺得老師這樣做真是無錯！但你也沒有錯……不過樓主不能因一位老師的一個反應就貿然斷定這所學校的價值
作者: hybon1 時間: 12-10-7 17:08
我也是人，也是一位老師，我也不想斷定什麼，但老師就代表著那所學校，而以面試生、家長來說，就只有這麼少的第一身溝通的機會，是失望的，但也很欣賞各位對它的支持，謝謝！
作者: NatBrown 時間: 12-10-7 17:28
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absolutely agreed your point of view 
. Please don't magnify the intention of not accept your child picture to this level. It's should play fair to others!
作者: TINGMUM 時間: 12-10-7 18:05
樓主, 在面試日送出心意畫的確比較敏感, 請開解囡囡不要放在心上, 小朋友通常被大人開解後, 好快便會開心返. 其實樓主可考慮在OPEN DAY同囡囡再來學校一趟, 花多些時間觀校及與老師們交流,相信感觀會有不同. 最後, 祝囡囡順利入讀心儀小學.{:1_1:}
作者: carriebaby111 時間: 12-10-7 18:10 標題: 引用：我也是人，也是一位老師，我也不想斷定什麼
原帖由 hybon1 於 12-10-07 發表
我也是人，也是一位老師，我也不想斷定什麼，但老師就代表著那所學校，而以面試生、家長來說，就只有這麼少 ...
作者: hybon1 時間: 12-10-8 00:44
謝謝回覆，願祝各位好運！^_~
作者: ourbaby 時間: 12-10-8 14:13
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don't choose this school. choose the ones that accept gifts.
作者: zekilau 時間: 12-10-8 21:01
一句講哂, 作為用家, 我接觸的TSL教職員都很友善, 反而傳統的教會學校就比較cool.
作者: kamosdad 時間: 12-10-9 02:25
本帖最後由 kamosdad 於 12-10-9 02:47 編輯
ourbaby 發表於 12-10-8 14:13
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don't choose this school. choose the ones that accept gifts.
If the teacher accepts gift, and then offer you the P1 admission. will it need to send a more valuable gift for gratitude?
作者: hybon1 時間: 12-10-9 14:10
Thanks for your comment, Zekilau!
作者: lovingparent 時間: 12-10-9 14:20
I support the teacher, and it is also very thoughful of her to ask the little girl to hang the "gift" at home. She also demonstrates how a teacher should refuse in a proper manner. Afterall, running back to the teacher after the interview has completed is totally violating the order of the interview procedures!! 
作者: yypapa 時間: 12-10-10 14:15
咁嘅場合, 當然要避嫌啦, 吾通你去見工帶份禮物俾對方咩 !? 老師 stern face 係因佢對此行為感到意外, 叫小朋友攞返屋企掛係有禮貌, 合適及顧及小朋友感受的回應 。
作者: daisysyc 時間: 12-10-11 14:05
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作者: hybon1 時間: 12-10-11 19:19
Lovingparent, we didn't run back. The teacher was standing by the door after she led the kids out. We were walking in the hallway, then walked back to her at the door. The "gift" you are all referring to is a drawing made out of scrap paper. I wouldn't call it a gift.
Thanks for your responses!
作者: hybon1 時間: 12-10-11 19:27
Btw, it is enough of that particular teacher being right or wrong. Thank you!
Meaningful feedback like daisysyc's and zekilau's are appreciated. Have a nice day!
作者: little-pig 時間: 12-10-16 23:21
我個女係大頭蝦又扎扎跳，但老師非常包容和有愛心，我反而要叫佢地幫手鬧下個女，我個女當年有多間學校收，好彩幫她揀了TSL，今日比我再揀，都一定係TSL。
老師不收禮物是絶對正確，尤其是面試日，無論是紙仔或是金幣，都是禮物，都不應收。老師叫小朋友回家掛起，證明老師有和小朋友考慮如何處理該禮物。她的建議亦十分合適和尊重小朋友的心意。
作者: geogeo 時間: 12-10-17 13:46
Hybon1, it does not matter as parents here would just like to ensure you that teachers of this school is generous and kind. We do not know why the said teacher reacts as expected by you but it may due to other matter but not your daughter's action. The important thing is to make sure your daughter does not affect much by the incident. Good luck!
作者: eyschoi 時間: 12-10-19 08:57
To you, it is just a small piece of recycle paper but to other parents, it can be anything. Acting fairly is not enough at this critical time. Seen to be fair is more important. It is fair enough to receive a drawing on recycle paper but it may be seen to be unfair to others when a staff receiving something from the interviewee after the interview.
作者: bchi 時間: 12-10-24 11:37
我都唔鍾意tsl, 因為當年佢唔收我個仔 kekekekeek
蕭阿e 唔準話我啊 ~~~~~ 
作者: silvia_ng 時間: 12-10-24 12:48
bchi 發表於 12-10-24 11:37
我都唔鍾意tsl, 因為當年佢唔收我個仔 kekekekeek
蕭阿e 唔準話我啊 ~~~~~ ...
作者: fion_yinyin 時間: 12-10-24 16:21
DBSPD in完有人踩
TSL未 2nd in，就咁快有呢d post？效率好快喎
作者: Rayli 時間: 12-10-25 08:14 標題: 回覆：TSL 老師唔重視孩子、冇愛心？！
My daughter told me that the teachers are very nice to her during interview n she loves this school very much. But we were unsuccessful 
. But still, we like this school n may try again in June.
作者: Bluestar 時間: 12-10-28 11:54
My kid has graduated from TSL so I have no vested interest and can afford to criticize objectively.
In this particular incident it would not be appropriate for the teacher concerned to accept anything, whatever that may be. To be seen to be fair is a very important issue. Otherwise parents of other applicants may well escalate it to ICAC level soon.
The teacher has tried to handle it correctly and fairly at the end of a long tiring day. Whether the drawing was made on a piece of recycled paper is not the crux of the matter.
作者: joe3805 時間: 12-11-2 16:49
有居心,叫人點有愛心呀!
作者: flostangraphy 時間: 12-11-15 11:41
bchi 發表於 12-10-24 11:37
我都唔鍾意tsl, 因為當年佢唔收我個仔 kekekekeek
蕭阿e 唔準話我啊 ~~~~~ ...
作者: CMWmama 時間: 12-12-17 08:06
hybon, 你在TSL post 這樣具刺激的題目, 當然會招致大量TSL 擁躉的回應! 其實 stern face 的老師在其他學校都大把, 當年我和仔仔去多間學校作戰, 都見不少, 例如 DBSPD, 感受都不好呀! (但我仍十分喜歡男拔!) 別為一時的反應而上心, 不代表甚麼的, 我認識的TSL 老師真的很不錯, 比起其他的已經很好的了! 這所始終是一所好學校, 如小朋友考到, 可以考慮. 當然都要看父母喜歡學校與否, 但考慮一所學校應該不是因為今次的一件事!
作者: bchi 時間: 13-1-14 11:33
flostangraphy 發表於 12-11-15 11:41
he he he!! 我都叫你再接再勵架啦! 我當年都睇好Baco, 如果堅持到尾係應該做到同學仔!
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你知唔知呀, 家陣連我地, 公佈收生前後, 都有人入去唱衰. d 人真係初初地 !! 
作者: hybon1 時間: 13-3-4 15:00
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小孩自發想畫D嘢比老師，點樣居心呀？你說話時請看清楚，想清楚。
作者: hybon1 時間: 13-3-4 15:31
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CMWmama, thanks for your thoughtful and insightful response!
作者: motherotk 時間: 13-4-27 10:38
some are loving, some are distant. Realties of all schools.
Overall, the teachers are making sense teachers. Basically, the children are independent, could survive very well without loving teachers occasionally.
Comparing with other traditional schools, here the culture are more children centered rather than adult centered
作者: Big_Gal 時間: 13-4-27 21:28
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hybon1, 唔係話你同小朋友有居心, 大家在這都是說"避嫌".
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