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標題: 請問有甚麼小學著重雙語發展？ [打印本頁]
作者: lsftsang 時間: 12-9-20 16:00 標題: 請問有甚麼小學著重雙語發展？
請問有甚麼小學著重雙語發展？THX。
作者: 小曳人 時間: 12-9-20 16:33
雙語係咪指普通話+英語？
作者: hoihoima 時間: 12-9-20 18:49
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All primary schools have English subject. Some schools use Mandarin to teach Chinese. Are you looking for schools that only use English and Madarin as the teaching medium? If so, then CKY, Pui Kiu (Shatin), TT (International Stream), etc. only use English and Madarin as the teaching medium.
作者: lsftsang 時間: 12-9-21 12:04
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CKY is one of them. Any more choices for non-international school? I want the kid to develop as a bilingual speaker. Thx.
作者: ha8mo 時間: 12-11-9 15:00
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作者: 小曳人 時間: 12-11-9 15:18
ha8mo 發表於 12-11-9 15:00 
間間直資都講到自己係著重
yes
間間都有能操流利pth / eng 嘅student helper!
作者: hadwinboy 時間: 12-11-9 16:54
SMC should be one of them. Many NET and subjects mainly taught by English and PTH. But they have a third language to learn as well (i.e. German, French, Spanish or Japanese).
作者: HKTHK 時間: 12-11-9 17:00
CKY, ISF, VSA are all independent schools with focus on Mandarin and English
作者: Charlotte_mom 時間: 12-11-9 17:00
ha8mo 發表於 12-11-9 15:00
間間直資都講到自己係著重
HEY, 應該話, 間間學校都話自己著重架啦!
作者: HKTHK 時間: 12-11-9 17:21
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Yes, better question is who is doing it well! Seems like too early to tell though since many of these schools are so new.
作者: jesusloveyiu 時間: 12-11-9 19:26 標題: 回覆：請問有甚麼小學著重雙語發展？
TSL
作者: cranberry 時間: 12-11-9 19:28
Creative Primary --- IB curriculum and strong bilingual languages
作者: momama 時間: 12-11-9 19:36 標題: 引用：Quote:ha8mo+發表於+12-11-9+15:00+間間直
原帖由 Charlotte_mom 於 12-11-09 發表
HEY, 應該話, 間間學校都話自己著重架啦!
冇分乜資！
作者: elizatyy 時間: 12-11-9 21:41
大部份其直資或私校都
作者: joanthony 時間: 12-11-9 21:59
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作者: joanthony 時間: 12-11-9 22:01
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作者: dlee_ca 時間: 12-11-9 22:17
ALL ALL ALL
作者: cranberry 時間: 12-11-10 10:49
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或者咁講, 俾7千幾當然係貴, 但係如果全部都用英文教的話 (國際學校), 又唔係呢個數. 剩係debenture, development fund, long term and summer break, 都貴好多架, 計計埋埋, 差不多每個月俾萬幾, 兩萬蚊. KINGSTON 也要一萬蚊, 未計一入學要俾$70,000. THINK 只是CANDIDATE SCHOOL OFＩＢ，都要六千左右的學費. 只要把這些國際學校, 私立 (行IB) 一起FAIR 啲去計, 值唔值真是見人見智.
作者: baba987 時間: 12-11-10 15:33
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作者: penguin_chick 時間: 12-11-10 16:36
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也有全英(除中文、普通話、德育、音樂則教中文歌用中文教、教英文歌用英文教)教學，考IB，小學只收五千幾。
作者: joanthony 時間: 12-11-11 10:24 標題: 引用：回復+joanthony+的帖子
或者咁講,+俾7千幾
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作者: cranberry 時間: 12-11-11 10:53
penguin_chick 發表於 12-11-10 16:36
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也有全英(除中文、普通話、德育、音樂則教中文歌用中文教、教英文歌用英文教)教學 ...
作者: michellebaby 時間: 12-11-11 11:00
cranberry 發表於 12-11-10 10:49
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或者咁講, 俾7千幾當然係貴, 但係如果全部都用英文教的話 (國際學校), 又唔係呢個 ...
作者: kyliema2006 時間: 12-11-11 11:01 標題: 引用：Quote:penguin_chick+發表於+12-11-10+16:3
原帖由 cranberry 於 12-11-11 發表
你講的這間學校是否在深水埗區有一條龍中學的? 好像這間小學不是行IB的.
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作者: KAP 時間: 12-11-11 17:38
Most of the primary school in HK already have the English & Mandarin lesson.
作者: penguin_chick 時間: 12-11-11 17:58
本帖最後由 penguin_chick 於 12-11-13 19:10 編輯
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一至十年級不是IB，第十一及十二年才是IBD課程，但是頭十年的課程都會與IBD配合。因為如果全跟IB，反而在課程編排上會受到規限，學費也會昂價一點！
作者: HKTHK 時間: 12-11-11 21:10
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HK schools have had English lesson for a long time too. And look at the English standard today ....
作者: elizatyy 時間: 12-11-12 21:29
香港學校偏向看重文法, 學生聽講較弱。
作者: elizatyy 時間: 13-2-12 23:32
CKY, SMC, SFA, TSL, TTPS, Victoria...etc 但有些是以本地老師任教、有些是由外藉老師教。
作者: NatalieBaby 時間: 13-2-13 05:58 標題: elizatyy 的帖子
st stephen stanley
作者: Mukchilee 時間: 13-2-13 17:36
如果樓主意思是寫和閱讀, 一般較受歡迎的直資和私立小學都可以符合你要求, 但是說到聽和講, 恐怕大部份本地小學(包括所謂神校)都未如理想, 還看閣下的接受程度和取捨方向
作者: wister 時間: 13-2-17 00:28
香港有邊間學校會唔重雙語發展？ 只係做得好唔好就另作別論。
作者: mesmerising 時間: 13-2-17 10:00
只計語言能力，isf弘立確實做得到native level.由低小的30/70英普比例到高小的70／30，浸淫式語境，個個小孩都能說會讀。
作者: kkpapa 時間: 13-2-17 10:31
ISF annual school fee plus annual capital levy pretty close to $200,000.-...
作者: ANChan59 時間: 13-2-17 12:23 標題: 回覆：請問有甚麼小學著重雙語發展？
我想逆向思考，香港除了ESF及lS，是否有學校不著重雙語發展？
作者: mesmerising 時間: 13-2-17 13:29
本帖最後由 mesmerising 於 13-2-17 14:06 編輯
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問題不是著重與否，應該是做到與否。大部份LS著重的程度只限於學科應用，英小較多接觸，中小只限普英課節內。缺乏浸淫式活用語境。小兒低小曾就讀於Isf,親眼看著我兒在短短半年內英普雙全，pin yin 無痛完全自然掌握，隋時拼出！完全是think in the language.而我們是廣東話家庭。現小兒雖學習愉快，但語文已回復80%廣東話了！
作者: mesmerising 時間: 13-2-17 13:48
個人覺得，讀LS，讀寫能力還能自加訓練，聽講能力就真的比較弱（以廣東話家庭來說）。
作者: chanwingyin 時間: 13-2-17 13:49
福建小學，全英普, monthly school fee $3,000. it is a relative new school as only 3-4year history..
作者: nkpa 時間: 13-2-17 14:09
粵語家庭，不必期望孩子在聽講有如以英/普為母語的人。孩子第一間學校是家庭，家庭習慣說甚麼話，孩子便流利甚麼。同理，家人愛讀甚麼書，孩子便愛甚麼。小學生語文訓練，家庭影響比學校大，學校影響又比補習社大。家長不要問學校，先要問問自己。
作者: mesmerising 時間: 13-2-17 14:40
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完全認同。但isf給我的體驗卻是這道理的例外(學校力量＞家庭）她完全令我這個粵語孩子在短時間內not only speaks in English, but thinks in it, without conversion process. And the same goes with his mandarin. And that's what we call native level. It was an impressive experience,in terms of language acquiring.
作者: ANChan59 時間: 13-2-17 15:02
nkpa 發表於 13-2-17 14:09
粵語家庭，不必期望孩子在聽講有如以英/普為母語的人。孩子第一間學校是家庭，家庭習慣說甚麼話，孩子便流 ...
作者: mesmerising 時間: 13-2-17 17:16
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後來我衡量了教育的各方面意義後（語言只是其一），就把兒子放回LS了。我們覺得教育有其他東西比較重要，而現在的LS和我們的觀念更接近。
作者: jeff76916 時間: 13-2-17 19:40
Is it the more humble character of LS students that prompted u to make the not small decision to switch to LS?
作者: mesmerising 時間: 13-2-17 22:08
本帖最後由 mesmerising 於 13-2-17 22:12 編輯
Hello jeff76916,
我不多說了，新年了，我再說就會是一位又長氣，又小氣的老太婆了！只知時間會今人、物進步。單就帖子主題＂雙語掌握＂回應，isf實在是優秀難得的。
作者: jeff76916 時間: 13-2-17 22:27
過去的就讓它消失,只要現在合意就好了. 說回語文,我們香港人可能有萬種理由不喜歡內地人,但有時看內地的清談節目,見到內地小孩隨口滔滔不斷的表達能力,又或看看台灣綜藝節目的主持可以對講一小時而高潮不斷,又看新加坡人的飲食節目講飲食和旅遊時所用英文的流暢和層次,再回頭看香港人用語文的能力,香港的語文教育需要加十把勁.
作者: mesmerising 時間: 13-2-18 11:16
本帖最後由 mesmerising 於 13-2-18 11:28 編輯
如果以每地用母語的表達能力來計，香港粵語的表達能力也不差。至於內容空洞或有趣味深度（你說的高潮不斷與否），那應是文化氛圍造就的問題，而不是語文上的。
另外，個人覺得what is said (內容）is more important than how it is said（不同語言）
作者: HKTHK 時間: 13-2-18 11:32
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Unfortunately, depth of discussion is not a strong point of HK either. Just look at the newspapers and magazines sold in newsstands. How many would you say are "serious" publications offer in-depth analysis or quality editorials?
作者: mesmerising 時間: 13-2-18 11:42
As I have said, that's a cultural problem, not a language one. And there is a lot of work for us to catch up with nearby countries. But I think the prevalence use of and overwhelming reliance on multi-media also play a culprit role. It trained people to absorb information without thoughtful digestion.
作者: HKTHK 時間: 13-2-18 12:24
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Hello! The cultural gap is indeed quite large: China and Taiwan venerates their academics and intelligentsias, HK venerates their pop idols and business tycoons.
作者: mesmerising 時間: 13-2-18 12:34
And a difference on respecting divergence or molding into a particular "success type"!!!
And please check PM. Now I am quite sure with what I have said there.:)
作者: jeff76916 時間: 13-2-18 12:44
What you says is certainly right. Contents certainly fill in and inform one's oral speech or written article. But I have confined myself in my observations on proficiency of language and articulation of ideas. For some reasons, I have opportunities to see people making speeches day in and day out (adults and children). I refrain from touching on contents/cultural matter as raised by you, because what I wish to bring up is that even if you impart some ideas to them and ask them to relay them again in their own words, they have difficulties one way of another in doing it in proper language (even Cantonese). ,
作者: jeff76916 時間: 13-2-18 12:51
And when it comes to cultural problem, I can't agree more with you all. I think free newspapers distributed every morning is equally to blame. All HK people need, or interested, is simply to read titles of each news report. This leads to low-quality report, and, worse, phase out those good reporters/writers who earn their living on writing. It is very equally sad to find out that when a parent wishes to buy good readers for this children, local pulications are limited and we have to resort to mainland or Taiwan. And some even suggest that this is the reason why IS are teaching simplied chinese characters in order to find sufficient teaching materials!
作者: jeff76916 時間: 13-2-18 12:53
But what I agree with you most is that HK people is so much in hustle that they can't pause to think
作者: mesmerising 時間: 13-2-18 13:15
本帖最後由 mesmerising 於 13-2-18 13:18 編輯
I do notice a trend for younger generation to use simplified and unifying expressions though. Example: "that's cool!" "In what way is it cool?" " I don't know, it's just... Just... Cool!" And I think this is happening across cultures(香港叫＂爆＂＂超正＂等）。it's another dimension to look at language changes, from the perspectives of age and generations.
作者: jeff76916 時間: 13-2-18 13:16
perhaps, to put it more accurately, I should say the bosses of newspapers don't need to pay much to look for good reporters, as readers are only interested in eye-catching titles. And if this is the case, what we can expect in respect of good writing/report/analysis ?!
作者: jeff76916 時間: 13-2-18 13:31
yes, what you say is true. As some has observed, vague language (例如甚麼都是"打造", 或甚麼都是"優化", 甚麼感覺都是"正") reflects laxness in thinking, and over time, you can't think more critically or express yourself more articulately
作者: mesmerising 時間: 13-2-18 13:35
本帖最後由 mesmerising 於 13-2-18 13:59 編輯
It's a question of 雞定蛋先。maybe it is a self feeding vicious cycle; poorer language level , poorer paper, poorer journalist(both quality required and hence, income). And it is difficult to tell which starts off first.
By the way nice chat, and now time for homework with son. Chow.
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