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作者: ChiChiPaPa 時間: 12-8-15 06:25 標題: GCSE/IGCSE 摘星

http://www.singtao.com/yesterday/edu/0815go03.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/educa ... endent-schools.html

作者: WYmom 時間: 12-8-15 08:24

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The UK results you quoted are those of 2011... results of 2012 have not been released yet until Aug 23. How come CKY can announce their results with student names of this year yesterday??

Besides, only getting all A* can be described to be 狀元, so they in fact have only one 狀元 according to Singtao news.

作者: kkpapa 時間: 12-8-15 09:54

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same publish date last year for CKY IGCSE results..

(星島日報報道)英國的國際普通中學教育文憑試（IGCSE）放榜，創校十年的保良局蔡繼有學校，第二年有學生應考，七十八名考生中，共奪四百零三個A*或A，其中三名考生考獲十一科A*或A。校長劉筱玲指，今年考生奪A*比例較往年升逾一成，昨日保良局屬下中學舉辦公開試成績優異獎學金頒獎禮，三人各獲八千元獎學金。

　第二年有十年級（相等於中五）學生應考IGCSE的保良局蔡繼有學校，今年誕生三名考獲十一科A*或A的狀元，包括方晴、談正彥和葉浠雅，其中方晴更以十一科全A*，成為「狀元王」。校長劉筱玲表示，今屆考獲C級或以上成績的學生比例近九成半，獲A*的比例達兩成八，均比去年提升。

　　劉筱玲稱，「學校深信每個孩子都有其優點，故特色之一是不設排名，我認為毋須用成績排名來激勵學生，這亦不是一個好方法，提供輕鬆的教學環境，反而對學生更有效。」自小一已在保良局蔡繼有學校就讀的方晴亦表示，「學校沒有真正的敵人，只有朋友，同學間會互相扶持，幫忙溫習，目標非超越某人，而是超越自己的分數。」

　　方晴特別欣賞學校在數學科以引發學生興趣的方式學習，而非背公式的灌輸。三位狀元中方晴和葉浠雅均表示會在原校升班讀IB課程，談正彥則表示為令自己見識更廣，將轉讀國際學校。劉筱玲指，應屆IGCSE考生大部分原校升班，只有約十人出國讀書。

作者: WYmom 時間: 12-8-15 10:04

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I guess it's because CKY students all take IGCSE of the Cambridge exam board. Edexcel GCSE results are available only by Aug 23, 2012.

作者: andy.ma 時間: 12-8-15 16:53

WYmom 發表於 12-8-15 10:04
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I guess it's because CKY students all take IGCSE of the Cambridge exam board. E ...

yes, Cambridge relase the result earlier than London

作者: poonseelai 時間: 12-8-15 17:25

what is the difference between these 2? thanks

作者: WYmom 時間: 12-8-15 18:32

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As I know, they are different exam boards in UK, different schools choose the exam programs suitable for their students. Don't know if there are much difference between them.

作者: kyliema2006 時間: 12-8-15 21:30

ChiChiPaPa 發表於 12-8-15 06:25

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/leaguetable ...

這個是GCSE的成績，有別於IGCSE呢！

作者: penguin_chick 時間: 12-8-16 10:27

從去年BK的資料︰
http://www.edu-kingdom.com/forum ... page%3D4&page=1

2010 IGCSE examination statistics
rhythmwawa,
Here are some year 2010 IGCSE examination statistics of other IGCSE Int'l School which found from their websites:
Year 2010 A*-A A*-C
Island School 58.10% 92.50%
South Island 52.60% 91.00%
Kiangsu-Chekiang 31.00% 82.00%
West Island 55.00% 95.00%
YCIS 44.00% 84.00%
CKY (year 2011) 47.10% 92.40%

A*-A 有50-60%已是不差的成績，但從以下網站
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/educa ... endent-schools.html
看到的資料，最好的竟有99.54%！而50幾%的已排名至二百多位。請問這是實況，還是因為兩個考試不同，如是是兩個考試不同，差異在那裏呢？

作者: kyliema2006 時間: 12-8-16 10:42

penguin_chick 發表於 12-8-16 10:27
從去年BK的資料︰
http://www.edu-kingdom.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=2319781&extra=page%3D4&page ...

不敢班門弄虎，以我所知GCSE是英國的本土試，因為以往取A％很高，所以一般人會覺得這個試較容易。後來又增設了IGCSE的國際試，IGCSE取A的百分率應比GCSE為低的。

作者: kyliema2006 時間: 12-8-16 10:50

本帖最後由 kyliema2006 於 12-8-16 10:50 編輯

學校網站取得資料:

Year 2012

CKY A*-A 56% A*-C 94%

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-8-16 17:08 標題: 回覆：penguin_chick 的帖子

For curiosity, are they under the same exam board?

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-8-16 17:21 標題: 回覆：GCSE/IGCSE 摘星

看完wiki，GCSE 是較統一及一致的科目為本的英國本土公開試。

IGCSE 反而多數具本土化，每個國家地區有些不同教法，我不知道對成績會否有影響。

成績好=課程容易，我唔係好肯定。因為有家長認為lB HL 攞 7，%多過HKDSE 5** ，所以認為lB淺過 HKDSE，我都莫明其妙，唔知點講。

作者: ChiChiPaPa 時間: 12-8-16 21:05

本帖最後由 ChiChiPaPa 於 12-8-16 21:06 編輯

蔡繼有的成績已超越英基上年的成績。
http://www.edu-kingdom.com/home.php?mod=space&uid=35057&do=blog&id=767

作者: WYmom 時間: 12-8-17 05:38

本帖最後由 WYmom 於 12-8-17 06:10 編輯

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For comparison sake, why not comparing CKY's last year result with other schools' last year result, this year's result with other schools' this year result? ESF is just a very average IS, how about comparing CKY to St. Paul Convent or so?
If you like to compare with results of 2011, SC (one of ESF I know)'s last year's A*/A is 60%+... others are........ don't bother to find out so much, (you have all data already??) ... anyway, this year's results not yet available, what's the point of comparing before results are known?

作者: kyliema2006 時間: 12-8-17 09:39

本帖最後由 kyliema2006 於 12-8-17 09:42 編輯

CKY今年才得十歲，長路漫漫，要學習的地方還多呢！這個成績只能說不賴，要進步的空間還多著呢。

同意若要比較成績，應該是與同屆成績作比較。不過，若按WYmom所說，ESF學生會同時參與GCSE及IGCSE的話，就要清楚各考試制度的成績結果，不能混為一談。將ESF每間學校的成績個別刋登，就更公平及透明化了。

作者: WYmom 時間: 12-8-17 15:05

本帖最後由 WYmom 於 12-8-17 15:27 編輯

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Hi, kyliema2006,

Always appreciate your comments. Agree with you, CKY's result is good enough, yet I think the more meaningful and useful results for your school or International schools will be IBD... whatever GCSE or IGCSE are not very meaningful now as the % of A*/A is always very high for most schools... for top schools, they have like 90% A*/A, ESF is also doing just average, everyone knows that among local schools, St. Paul Convent is doing very very well in IGCSE every year, DBS' IB is excellent; for IS, the top ones are always LPC, GSIS, HKIS.... no need to look at very detail data...what's so exciting about CKY's IGCSE?

Students with flying colours in IGCSE may not be good at IBD, so some of them choose to take AL as a safer bet.

I really don't bother about comparing the results of this exam, just take it as a milestone of finishing secondary school for the kids. IBD is the real challenge for them.

By the way, you may also know that GCSE/IGCSE reform is underway for launch by 2014(?)...so a lot of changes again!

作者: peremum 時間: 12-8-18 08:30

本帖最後由 peremum 於 12-8-18 08:31 編輯

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I cannot help wondering why you said DBS's IBD is excellent. She only has one year's track record & that record is not better than the " just average" ESF.
Please enlighten me.
BTW, can you tell me how good is SP Convent's result in IGCSE?

作者: WYmom 時間: 12-8-18 19:39

本帖最後由 WYmom 於 12-8-18 19:56 編輯

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For St. Paul Convent's results, I read from BK long time ago, it is quite famous for her students taking IGCSE, a link is found as below. To me, SPC is a well-known local school with students taking IGCSE every year, so can be a reference for CKY.
http://www.edu-kingdom.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=2337307

For DBS, their first batch of IBD students is getting an average score of 38, a lot of people salute on their excellent results... you can ask details from Mr. ANCHAN59. The discussion link on BK is this:http://www.edu-kingdom.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=2414795&extra=page%3D3

For ESF, I think that they have done a bit better in IBD this year, average score 35 to 36, I hope that they can do better and better as they increase school fee so much every year (we really pay a lot other than just school fees). As I know,.ESF ranks around mid-range among UK schools, so to me, they are just average if compared to other UK schools or top IS in HK.

Actually, I don't bother too much about those rankings of schools or so, I now only care more what will be the IGCSE results of my kid to be by next week... then confirm further her IBD...

How about you?

作者: mattsmum 時間: 12-8-18 19:58

What is the relation between igcse grade and ibd grades?

作者: WYmom 時間: 12-8-18 20:07

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Hi, mattsmum, long time no talk, how are you?
Well, from my observations of past data, IGCSE seems to give some predictions of IBD grades of the student if the student perform consistently... But of course, there are exceptions...

作者: mattsmum 時間: 12-8-18 21:51

Hello, wymom, I saw a website with a level and gcse grades correlation, but no ib. If you know, please share , I think esf would already have data bases.

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-8-18 21:59

mattsmum 發表於 12-8-18 21:51
Hello, wymom, I saw a website with a level and gcse grades correlation, but no ib. If you know, plea ...

Me too.
I read some correlation between GCSE vs GCE AL; and IBDP vs Second Class Upper or above in Cambridge, but not in IGCSE vs IBDP.

BTW, GCSE & IGCSE are subject based national examination, IB more a holistic education program instead of a traditional subject-based exam..... That's my understanding.

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-8-18 22:06

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peremum
Don't treat me wrong, just provide some data for your reference.

I took you point, it takes time to reflect the trend and standard of any new program. I know the boys take LPC as benchmark in HK.

http://www.edu-kingdom.com/home.php?mod=space&uid=107125&do=blog&id=1552

ANChan59

作者: mattsmum 時間: 12-8-18 22:19

Hi, anchan59, can you share information on correlation of IBDP vs Second Class Upper or above in Cambridge.

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-8-18 22:47

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mattsmum

Here is the link:
http://www.admin.cam.ac.uk/offices/admissions/research/docs/ib_performance.pdf

ANChan59

作者: WYmom 時間: 12-8-19 09:38

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I don't have such correlation, I only know that the school has set some requirements based on GCSE grades for students in choosing IB subjects and levels. GCSE or IGCSE exams grades reflect to certain extent the strength and weakness of the student and thus give reference to their IBD choice and performance. It's a combination of different factors though, the skills, the choice, the interest and the targeted colleges of the student. I never have those scientific and systematic analysis as ANCHAN... Usually I just read something and put it in my mind, then mix and match... very C9 way!
Is your child also waiting for IGCSE results soon?

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-8-19 11:36

Here is a good info from UWCSEA in Singapore, it elaborates the linkage between IGCSE and IBDP, in subject selection and not exam results correlation.

http://www.uwcsea.edu.sg/uploade ... urriculum_Guide.pdf

Enjoy it.

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-8-19 11:41

本帖最後由 ANChan59 於 12-10-13 22:16 編輯

I am so glad to see the discussion shift from purely results to the logic and rationale behind the arrangement. It means more for better subject selection and anticipate a better education for their kids.

I always remember in my MBA - Corporate Strategy class, the German professor always asked a question right after our data or info presentation "So what?" . Think about it!!!

作者: andy.ma 時間: 12-8-23 22:46 標題: 回覆：ANChan59 的帖子

今日出result 喎。

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-8-23 23:23

andy.ma 發表於 12-8-23 22:46
今日出result 喎。

Anything interesting?

作者: WYmom 時間: 12-8-24 10:25

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This one:
GCSE results 2012: top grades fall for first time in history:

Top grades down for first time since qualification was introduced in 1986 amid concern students have been unfairly graded

http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2012/aug/23/gcse-results-fall-first-time?newsfeed=true

作者: bobbycheung 時間: 12-8-27 18:11

I wonder how many IGCSE subjects students in HK usually take nowadays. Anyone knows?

作者: bobbycheung 時間: 12-8-28 10:49

Slamai,

Thanks! Someone told me 13 is usual. Is there a range for say the above average students as you said?

作者: Shootastar 時間: 12-8-28 11:31

According to the released figures, the A*/A percentage for popular subjects would range from 35% to 45%. So it is not difficult to obtain 8 to 10 A*/A in GCSE examination.

作者: slamai 時間: 12-8-28 13:49

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I don't have detailed statistics but it seems that 11 subjects are more common.

作者: Jackieson 時間: 12-8-28 16:13

想問吓咁多位前輩,係咪即是如果學生同時考IGCSE & DSE, 又可同時經NON-JUPAS & JUPAS升大學, 機會會大d? 所以有d學校會為學生報兩個試!?

作者: slamai 時間: 12-8-29 18:23

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A candidate can only choose one route to apply for U admission, either JUPAS or non-JUPAS, but not both.

作者: penguin_chick 時間: 12-8-30 06:31

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單憑IGCSE是不能真接進大學的！(舊制還可以徑尖子入學，新制則不太清楚！)

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-8-30 08:10

penguin_chick 發表於 12-8-30 06:31
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單憑IGCSE是不能真接進大學的！(舊制還可以徑尖子入學，新制則不太清楚！)

我跟你的理解一樣。
自己都聽不少單憑GCSE/IGSE 従拔尖入三大，每年都有被踢出校，特別是醫科。認識的一個女孩被迫回到英國讀大學。十分可惜。她覺得GCSE 太淺，自己心智及決心未預備好讀醫科。

作者: penguin_chick 時間: 12-8-30 09:34

亦有成功例子，有親戚在英國考GCSE拔尖入中大讀雙學位，BBS + JURY DOCTOR，明年畢業，應可順利過關！

作者: Shootastar 時間: 12-8-30 11:43

This year both medical schools admit 10A* students (Non-jupas) to their 6-year program. It appears that 10A* students' academic performance would be in par of the DSE students because they receive 12 years education. There failure cases would be substantially less in the future.

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-8-30 12:16

Shootastar 發表於 12-8-30 11:43
This year both medical schools admit 10A* students (Non-jupas) to their 6-year program. It appears t ...

Some of them with GCE AS/AL as back up, not straight GCSE 10A* only.
No one want any failure medical students, it's too costly and waste the golden opportunities for other capable kids. That's why I need my boy 100% sure he wants to take MBBS, don't waste other's chance.

作者: Shootastar 時間: 12-8-30 12:32

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HKU and CU admitted 10A* students who are in the lower 6th Form only. They do not have AL results (or at most one) because they have not yet in the upper 6th Form. However, you are correct that they may have AS results to back up or the offer is conditional upon certain marks in their AS results.

Your attitude is very correct. Unless your son is 100% sure that he wants to take up MBBS, he should not apply for. It is a matter of wasting the public fund and his time if he subsequently finds that MBBS is not suitable to him.

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-8-30 12:41

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Now, he is ready to take up the challenge.

作者: Shootastar 時間: 12-8-30 12:45

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MBBS or BBA (Law)?

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-8-30 13:05

MBBS and MB ChB as first choice.....

作者: C.Chiu 時間: 12-8-30 23:24

Could you please advise if you have taken Spec A or Spec B Maths? Thanks a lot!

作者: ivankan 時間: 12-8-31 17:58

GCSE 同 hkcee

The percentage of A*/A for popular subjects is around 35% to 45%. Some may be as high as 50%. For less popular subjects, the percentage of A*/A is around 25% to 35%.

If you compare the percentage of Hong Kong AL (which is no longer held), the percentage of A is around 3%. The percentage of 5**/5*/5 for popular subjects of HKDSE is around 10%.

So whether it is a good result for the schools you mentioned should be compared with the percentage amongst its education system. We cannot say a student of 10A* is better than a student of 9B of the old HKCEE.

By the study of British Council, an A* should be equivalent to B of the old HKCEE and A is equivalent to C of the old HKCEE.

作者: eschung 時間: 12-8-31 18:31

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Hong Kong students will take Maths A

作者: eschung 時間: 12-8-31 18:53

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In those days, they don't need AS to back up. They were admitted through EAS. The one I know got addmitted to MBB got 11A* and her parents are doctors. The other one with IB 38 also came from renowned medical family. Its the interview and their background that counts.

作者: eschung 時間: 12-8-31 19:10

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Its true to say that IGCSE is easier to get an A than HKCEE. That's why admission office only concern how many A* you have got and your overall performance. It's not easy to get many A* in a row because subjects like Business Studies, English, ICT are between 1 - 4 %

作者: ivankan 時間: 12-8-31 21:08

MOST subjects is easy to get A*

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-9-22 12:02

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By the study of British Council, an A* should be equivalent to B of the old HKCEE and A is equivalent to C of the old HKCEE.

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Do you know the link? Pls share.

作者: khmama 時間: 12-9-22 21:55

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Do you mean this link?
http://www.hkeaa.edu.hk/tc/ir/recognition_of_hkeaa_qualifications/overseas_studies/United_Kingdom/

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-9-22 21:59

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Not HKDSE, should be HKCEE vs GCSE/IGCSE.

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