中學文憑試3成7考生獲高等院校入學資格 - 教育王國

ANChan59 發表於 12-7-20 07:57
引用：4444+就差不多。
原帖由 redkoni 於 12-07-19 發表
4444 就差不多。
That's for Big 3, other universities and not so popular program's may need lower grades to secure a seat.

因為第一屆文憑試，五科取得4級或以上：日校考生=12392人全體考生=12419人

2012年所提供的學額

資助學士學位
教資會資助的八所院校及香港演藝學院會於2012/13學年為新舊學制學生提供合共30,300個學額，當中包括：
三年制學士學位：　15,150 (供舊學制中七)
四年制學士學位：　15,150 (供新學制中六)

自資學士學位
自資專上院校亦會提供自資學士學位約7,400個學額。

所以我覺得4444都應該接近是門檻吧！

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-7-20 13:17

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Thanks so much.

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-7-20 13:49

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Thanks for your detail analysis of the results.

作者: Shootastar 時間: 12-7-20 14:50

I have to amend the figures after reading more materials during lunch time. Our Universtity Grant Committee (may not be correct in name) has limited the nono-jupas places to 20% of the places available.

There are cases that a particular department would admit more Non-jupas students such as the School of Law of CityU, (which admitted about 40% non-jupas applicants), the other department would admit less than 20% so as to maintain an overall of 20%.

Given the fact that about 10% of the spaces goes to Mainland applicants and international applicants, there are about 10% (1,500 spaces) for non-Jupas applicants.

作者: slamai 時間: 12-7-20 16:00

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Where is your source of information? According to my understanding, there is no fixed quota for local non-jupas students.

作者: Shootastar 時間: 12-7-20 16:18

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My source of information is from the newspaper. I just checked the webpage of UGC and found that the number of mainland + international students are 10% of the total subsidised spaces.

If I can locate my information on the spaces available to Jupas, I will share the same with you again.

作者: slamai 時間: 12-7-20 16:20

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Your information for IB is not accurate. For 2011 May exam results, the percentages of "7" for different groups of subjects are as follows:
Group 1 5%
Group 2 11%
Group 3 5%
Group 4 6%
Group 5 8%
Group 6 6%
For English A1 HL, 2% of the candidates got 7.
The above is extracted from the following official bulletin:
http://www.ibo.org/facts/statbulletin/dpstats/documents/Statisticalbulletin_May_2011.pdf

Shootastar 發表於 12-7-20 12:12
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Previously the A grade for each subject was about 3%. In order to boost up the percentage of A (now called 5), HKEAA roughtly gives 10% "5" (instead of A). In order to differentiate the top 5 or 5 at the lower end, they then introcue 5* and 5**. I think it is fair to assess a student's performance by looking at his score from 1 to 5. For me 5* or 5** have no big meaning to me so long as the student achieves a "5".

From any angle of view, the percentage of "5" in DSE (about 10%) is still lower than "7" in IB (which is usually 15% to 20%), or "A*" of AL (which is about 10% to 15%).

作者: Arcana 時間: 12-7-20 16:35

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agree

作者: WYmom 時間: 12-7-20 16:40

本帖最後由 WYmom 於 12-7-20 16:46 編輯

I think getting a "5" in HKDSE is definitely not equal to "7" in IBD. It seems to be equal to a "C" in Alevel, not sure its equivalent to IBD, maybe equal to "5.5" in IBD?
The % of HKDSE students in all grades cannot be compared to IBD or ALevel as the students from HKDSE are in fact all the local secondary students while the students taking IBD or AL are more so-called "post-secondary students" who are more capable to enter universities. In the past, majority of local secondary students graduated at HKCEE and will not study further, only those more capable ones will take HKAL.

作者: Shootastar 時間: 12-7-20 17:43

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Thank you for pointing out my mistake.

The percentage for 6 and 7 in total should be about 15% to 20%, not 7 only.

作者: Shootastar 時間: 12-7-20 17:51

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"5" in DSE is not equivalent to "7" in IB. "5*" is equivalent to "7" in IB according to the experts of UCAS who studied the local new system for many years.

I render below the UCAS point for IB as well as UCAS for HKDSE for you reference. The comparison and the allocation of UCAS to each score are determined the education experts which I think should be reliable and trustworthy.

International Baccalaureate (IB) Certificate

Higher Level		Standard Level		Core requirements*
Grade	Tariff points	Grade	Tariff points	Grade	Tariff points
7	130	7	70	3	120
6	110	6	59	2	80
5	80	5	43	1	40
4	50	4	27	0	10
3	20	3	11

*Students who register for an IB Diploma but do not successfully complete all elements can achieve Tariff points from their achievement in individual Certificates and the Core requirements of the Diploma curriculum (extended essay, theory of knowledge (TOK) and creativity, action, service (CAS).
Students who register for individual IB Certificates, rather than the IB Diploma, cannot collect Tariff points from the Core.

Hong Kong Diploma of Secondary Education*

Grade	Tariff points
Grade	All subjects except Mathematics	Mathematics compulsory component	Mathematics optional components
5**	No value pending receipt of candidate evidence (post 2012)
5*	130	60	70
5	120	45	60
4	80	35	50
3	40	25	40

*Tariff points are available for the Hong Kong Diploma of Secondary Education for entry into higher education from 2012 onwards.

作者: Shootastar 時間: 12-7-20 17:52

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WYMom

Herewith the link to UCAS for your easy reference.

http://www.ucas.com/students/ucas_tariff/tarifftables/

作者: Shootastar 時間: 12-7-20 18:00

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I do not quite agree with you that local DSE students are not capable of handling colleges but IB or AL students are more capable.

Many DSE students who will study in UK this year rely on their scores of the HKDSE. At least 2 of my daughter's old classmates are admitted to one of the top 5 UK law school based on the scores released today. Another one goes to an Ivy of USA who studies in the top top top DSS girl school in Kowloon. In the latter case, she has to take SAT.

作者: WYmom 時間: 12-7-20 18:21

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You don't understand my meaning, I am saying that all HK secondary students have to take HKDSE, the nos. are far more than the nos. of HK students taking IBD or AL, as now 6 years of secondary studies is compulsory. In the past, a lot of students will quit after HKCEE (F.5), now all of them have to finish F.6. There are of course still a % of DSE students very capable.
For non-DSE students, a lot of them finish GCSE and then may quit, and also certain % students will continue to take IBD or AL. So the % of DSE students getting 5 or so cannot be compared directly to % of IBD students getting 6.

作者: eschung 時間: 12-7-20 18:25

5 x 4 may not get into the big three because those who get an average of 4 for 5 subjects should be more than 20,000. The figure of 12392 is only those who have 4 on each subjects. There could be lots of combinations such as 33554.

作者: Shootastar 時間: 12-7-20 18:40

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WYmom

Thank you for your clarification.

Now I get your point. You are saying that because there are screening amongst the HKCEE students before they are allowed to proceed with IB or AL so the percentage of "7" or "6" should be higher than the percentage of "5+" because there is no screening. Your point is valid.

But in any event, according to the UCAS tariff, "5*" o HKDSE is equivalent to "7" in a higher level subject in IB and "5" in HKDSE is equivalent to "6" in a higher leel subject in IB.

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