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標題: 讀國際學校好還是傳統或直資私立學校好 [打印本頁]
作者: 柠檬茶 時間: 12-7-17 20:41 標題: 讀國際學校好還是傳統或直資私立學校好
請問各位家長，如果不考慮學費問題的話，你們會選擇國際學校還是傳統學校，我也想我的小朋友長大後去外國留學，但又怕他讀國際學校中文不好，請各位家長給給意件!
作者: torunpoland 時間: 12-7-18 03:50 標題: 回覆：柠檬茶 的帖子
Either one is good as long as you can see pros and cons of each system.
作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-7-18 12:11 標題: 引用：Either+one+is+good+as+long+as+you+can+se
原帖由 torunpoland 於 12-07-18 發表
Either one is good as long as you can see pros and cons of each system.
作者: Shootastar 時間: 12-7-18 12:28
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If your kid is still young, you may consider putting him in local primary school so that he could learn more Chinese before you switch him to an international school (or a local school taking the IB or AL programme).
If your kid is now in secondary school, you can consider taking an IB program with Chinese Language on Higher Level. My observation is "one will be disadvantaged by poor Chinese unless you are from Ivy League (or equivalent) colleges or Oxbridge.
作者: reneeleung 時間: 12-7-18 18:54
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作者: kym 時間: 12-7-18 19:16
個人感受, 學好中文唔會比英文容易.
作者: iseult 時間: 12-7-18 19:37
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作者: mienmien 時間: 12-7-18 20:28
Apart from the aspects above, I think parents should also take your child's interest into consideration n find a learning environment / system that could nurture your child's potential. You can't get the best of both worlds with the limitation of Hk's educational system. Going to local school doesn't guarantee good Chinese anyway. I do come across some local school students having problem with their Chinese comprehension n they score better in English.
作者: JTmom 時間: 12-7-18 20:46
本帖最後由 JTmom 於 12-7-18 20:49 編輯
每類學校都有它的強與弱項。家長要配合在家教導。如果家長沒空，只依賴學校，無論選擇了什麼都有其需要面對之問題。家長配合得宜，每類學校都能培養出好學生。不要鎖定某一類學校，應對心儀的一些學校，每一家探訪，理解其理念。同一類學校中，每校都各有高低。
國際學校--家長最好在家教中文和數學。他們一般會愛閱讀英文書，自理能力好，功課自己可以處理。
直資學校—可問本地學校討論區的家長。他們的體驗應比這裏的家長深。
希望你找到適合的學校。
作者: 柠檬茶 時間: 12-7-18 21:34
謝謝大家的意見
作者: elizatyy 時間: 12-7-18 23:10
甚麼型孩子適合甚麼型學校？
http://www.peegaboo.com/cms/inde ... p;contentlang=zh-tw
作者: pollybell 時間: 12-7-18 23:31
JTmom 發表於 12-7-18 20:46 
每類學校都有它的強與弱項。家長要配合在家教導。如果家長沒空，只依賴學校，無論選擇了什麼都有其需要面對 ...
國際學校--家長最好在家教中文和數學........................係咪咁就足夠,因為我小朋友將讀P1,好擔心功課上幫唔倒佢.
作者: md23 時間: 12-7-19 09:07
I would never consider sending my kids to local schools, but then again, I don't usually emphasize Chinese as much as some of the parents here. In addition to grades, perhaps you should also consider what type of personality you prefer your kids to have, his/her overall impression to people around him. Having taught graduates from both IS and LS for years, I would choose IS.
作者: Littleho 時間: 12-7-19 09:33 標題: 回覆：讀國際學校好還是傳統或直資私立學校好
IS style of teaching promotes problem solving , creativity , lateral thinking and team work
作者: slamai 時間: 12-7-19 10:36
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Grouping schools between 國際學校 and 傳統或直資私立學校 has a significant fallacy as the latter have a very wide range of curricula, including international/overseas curricula in the case of 直資/私立學校. You need to highlight what you value most and what are your concerns before meaningful advice and/or comments can be given.
作者: smallfoothk 時間: 12-7-19 16:49
朋友想讀國際學校,一來不平,二來多名人和有錢孩子,小朋友對不上容易自尊心受損,所以放棄了...講錯勿插
作者: iseult 時間: 12-7-19 19:31
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作者: Mighty 時間: 12-7-19 20:57
smallfoothk 發表於 12-7-19 11:49
朋友想讀國際學校,一來不平,二來多名人和有錢孩子,小朋友對不上容易自尊心受損,所以放棄了...講錯勿插 ...
這是父母価値観的問題、国不国際、根本就完全無関。
作者: Mighty 時間: 12-7-19 21:00
md23 發表於 12-7-19 04:07
I would never consider sending my kids to local schools, but then again, I don't usually emphasize C ...
作者: HKTHK 時間: 12-7-19 23:19
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I would go one step further and say that "one is disadvantaged by poor Chinese EVEN IF from Ivy League colleges or Oxbridge" if one plans to return and work in Asia eventually. 15-20 years from now, I really have a tough time seeing someone finding good employment in HK or Asia if their Chinese is not fluent.
作者: nintendo 時間: 12-7-20 09:19
smallfoothk 發表於 12-7-19 16:49
朋友想讀國際學校,一來不平,二來多名人和有錢孩子,小朋友對不上容易自尊心受損,所以放棄了...講錯勿插 ...
就算讀平民學校，都會有人家庭環境比自己好
我覺得要教仔女正確價值觀
作者: 21Ckid 時間: 12-7-20 09:49
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其實而家已經不同我地讀書時代，好多如英基和一些學費較平的國際學校好多學生都來自普通中產家庭（住大型屋村平常去茶餐廳那種，不是半山那種中上家庭），近年由其英基開了2間在新界的幼稚園後，來自基層的更越來越多。你想像那種同學都是富二代的只在少數貴族國際學校才會。
當然，你入漢基, 弘立，HKIS等又另當別論。
作者: Shootastar 時間: 12-7-20 10:14
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Yes, I agree it will be the case several years later. For the time being, it appears to me that employers would be more flexible on your Chinese language if you are from Ivies or Oxbridge.
作者: Fatrara 時間: 12-7-23 13:31
Interesting articles from the point of a University professor in Hong kong on different types of university students coming from different backgrounds:
晴報 19-07-2012 Thursday, page 40:
http://epaper.skypost.hk/fileDat ... 217/index.html#/40/
AND
晴報 20-07-2012 Friday, page 70:
http://epaper.skypost.hk/fileDat ... 923/index.html#/70/
作者: Shootastar 時間: 12-7-23 13:45
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Although I clicked the links, the articles are too small to be read.
作者: Shootastar 時間: 12-7-23 15:04
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Thanks for your sharing. My both kids switched to international schools after they completed primary school in Hong Kong.
I note from my son's recommendation written by his counsellor:
Among Justin's greatest strengths are his contribution to the learning environment and his commitment to improving learning for his peers. His teachers consistently evalutate that Justin is the first to assist his peers in gaining understanding of the material and adds to the class discussion to a deeper levels of understanding the issues raised. ......"
Maybe it is the characteristic of an international school student the Professors mention.
作者: Fatrara 時間: 12-7-23 16:57
Shootastar,
There is a "Magnifying Glass" icon on the lower left corner. Click on it, and the page becomes one page and larger. It might still be kind of small, but easier to read. You can also click the "full page" (also in the lower left corner) icon to see if it gets even larger. I am still trying to figure it out how to enlarge the type print. If I am successful, will share in this forum.
作者: Fatrara 時間: 12-7-23 17:07
I think being willing to share with other students comes from partly 1) inborn characteristics of the child; 2) instilling the sharing spirit by the parents, and 3) encouragement and enforcement in the school environment.
Due to the nature of the exam/test score ranking system in most Hong Kong traditional schools, I can't imagine students there are encouraged to share with other students. Imagine, when the child is in Grade 6 getting into secondary school. Who gets in and who cannot get in is only a matter of a fraction of a point. Why would any parents encourage their kids to share? Sad, but that is the reality. I guess that is one of the reasons I put my kid into an international school. Don't want to see my kid becoming an uncaring person. I personally benefited a lot from other students helping me while I was in university in the US. In fact, that is one of the major reasons I think the US is such a technologically advanced country - people are willing to share. But that is a whole different topic worthy of discussion on its own.
作者: Shootastar 時間: 12-7-23 17:07
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Thank you for your sharing. After your prompt that I should click the magnifying glass at the left bottom corner, I could read the message and gave you the response.
作者: manstap 時間: 12-7-23 20:56
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作者: hellokids 時間: 12-7-23 21:47
作者: 柠檬茶 時間: 12-7-23 23:04
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非常感謝！
作者: JTmom 時間: 12-7-25 23:45
Thanks for sharing!
作者: ling_0508 時間: 12-7-26 11:31
I personally returned from the UK so my kid can learn chinese. English I find is so much easier to learn than chinese. You can learn english or catch up on it when you are older as HK gives you a foundation in it. My plan is let him learn enough chinese to cope with work in the future, then consider going back to the UK for either sixth form studies or uni.
作者: Fatrara 時間: 12-7-26 13:09
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Hi, manstap,
I was wondering if you could share with me how you can extract the articles from the Skypost. Thanks in advance.
作者: Fatrara 時間: 12-7-26 13:15
Another interesting article by an Economics Professor at the HKUST about 補習社. July 25, Wednesday
http://epaper.skypost.hk/fileDat ... 6006/index.html#/8/
作者: Shootastar 時間: 12-7-26 14:42
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Thanks for sharing.
I think there is no harm to engage private tuition to explore the subjects in details but I think it may have counter-effect if you rely on them to train you for the purposes of taking the SAT, Tofle or like examinations.
作者: manstap 時間: 12-7-26 16:33
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作者: manstap 時間: 12-7-26 16:39
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作者: Shootastar 時間: 12-7-26 19:09
Thanks for your sharing.
作者: bobbycheung 時間: 12-7-27 10:04
Shootastar 發表於 12-7-26 14:42
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Thanks for sharing.
What are the counter-effects?
作者: Shootastar 時間: 12-7-27 10:21
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If a kid is weak on a particular subject, a private tutor (whether group or individual) could help to clarify his concept and help lay down a foundation for his future study.
For SAT, Tofle etc, the tests demand the knowledge which you could have from your different course- languages, humanity, science and maths subjects. The engagemen of a tutor to train a kid for such tests appears to me that he is doing the things the other way round. Such training may not help them in building up the foundation.
作者: nintendo 時間: 12-7-27 14:14
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smallfoothk 容易受同學影响,變壞容易 發表於 7 天前
先前的討論，你係講緊小朋友見人地有錢，會自卑。
我回你時的意思是，無論讀下一種學校，都難免會有人有錢過自己，如果見人地有錢就自卑，咁就係小朋友心態有問題。
但你又回我，話小朋友會變壞。
我唔係好明你個意思，點解人地有錢，會令自己變壞？
其實，社會上，任何階層的人都會有，我唔覺得讀國際學校的特別有錢，最多可以話較中產，真正很有錢的是少數。
本地學校都有有錢學生，唔通你一見有有錢同學就推學轉校？
其實點解要下下同人比較？人比人，比死人。
你話國際學校學生有錢，其實係唔係有錢，都係 "相對的"，有自卑感，是心中有鬼。如果唔介意，點會自卑？
你見人地有司機有名車出入住獨立屋，覺得人地有錢；但住板間房的小朋友，可能覺得住公屋的小朋友算係有錢，都會羨慕。到時都可能有有錢同事，人地全身名牌，係唔係你會看在眼內會自卑。
羨慕唔係錯，但如果因此已自卑，咁家長應該諗下，到底點解小朋友咁在意。今日就話怕小朋友覺得自卑，咁他日讀大學，甚至工作呢？到時都可能有有錢同事，人地全身名牌，係唔係你會看在眼內會自卑。
作者: Jane1983 時間: 12-7-27 23:21
除了漢基，而家好多IS的家長都係中產，吳係大富大貴。你去school tour和open day看看便知。
小朋友對財富的看法，同吳同人比較，會吳會自卑，係好視乎家長點教。好多大富之家的子女都好自卑。
咁當然，最好social class吳好差太遠。如果係好困難，基本學費和課外活動支出都掹掹緊，又何必勉強。要小朋友成材，真係條條大路通羅馬。
Nicole
作者: 柠檬茶 時間: 12-7-27 23:23
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你係講我嗎？我冇講過呢D說話哦，你係唔係搞錯啊，因為我吔喔企都算可以、我從來冇但心過我唧小朋友會係錢方面自卑。
作者: type409 時間: 12-7-28 19:14
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As far as I know and from my observation, the background of CIS and ISF students are very similar - a small population from wealthy families in town, some from celebrity families and the rest (more than 70%) are from upper middle class. This is not surprise as the tuition fees of these 2 schools are very close too.
作者: Jane1983 時間: 12-7-28 19:31
漢基富貴得多，好多隱形富貴、大家族之后，如李超人的孫帶幾個保鏢返學。
ISF係中上產為主，大陸人頗多，有幾個朋友都係一邊話學費貴，一邊繼續讀。
作者: Jackieson 時間: 12-7-29 00:40
好認同Nintendo的分享, 吾好下下同人比，人比人，真係比死人!
雖則話無論官津校, 直資, 私校or國際學校, 貧富家庭都有, 貧富定義因人而已; 但就無可否認, 國際學校學費最貴, 十多萬一年, 每月萬多銀, 未計其他活動, 的確吾係好多家庭可負擔!! 幾個月前睇報紙, 陳生(聰哥)話自己好窮, 只得六億....!!
至於主題: "讀國際學校好還是傳統或直資私立學校好", 如果學費不是考慮因素, 我會選國際學校, 因為校園環境氣氛輕鬆D, 吾係死讀書, 小朋友都讀得開心D, 得一口流利英語! 我亦認同第二頁#24晴報的內容.
作者: fatkca 時間: 12-7-30 11:31
我覺得最好考慮埋小朋友未來係想升本地大學定外國大學, 因為都有影響~
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