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作者: Radiomama 時間: 12-6-21 17:04 標題: 啟新書院推出全新提名權計劃
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... 為配合學校的長遠發展，啟新書院現推出全新的提名權計劃 (Nomination Rights Scheme)，購買提名權並符合入學要求的學生將能優先獲得分
配學位。
提名權定價為每名學生港幣40萬元。申請購買提名權的家長，其子
女的面試次序將排在有兄弟姊妹在啟新書院就讀的學生之後。家長需
於申請入學時繳交港幣5萬元按金，餘額則於子女面試成功並獲得學
位後付清。倘若學生面試不成功，5萬元按金將獲全數退還。如家長
決定接受學位並已繳付提名權的餘額，即使最後放棄學位，所付的金
額亦不獲退還。
位於馬鞍山的啟新書院是一所由英基教育服務有限公司(ESL)營
運的私營獨立學校。啟新於2006年創校，發展一直非常理想，至
2011-12學年結束時，學生人數已接近 2,000，就讀於一至十三年級。
ESL董事局主席杜茵妮表示：「啟新書院有別於其他英基學校，由
於沒有政府資助， 要 依靠學費來維持學校的營運 。自創校以來啟新已建立起良好的聲譽，在提供優質教育方面亦非常
成功。成功教育的關鍵在於長遠的規劃及建全的財務， 一旦達到這個目標，便能專注於發展課程和提升設備。」
在2012-13學年，啟新書院每年學費為港幣80,700元（
1至6年級）、港幣107,900元（7至11年級）及港幣10
9,100元（12至13年級）。此外，每位於2012年8月入
學的 一年級新生，需繳付港幣23,500元的建校費（不可退還）。於
2013年8月入學的一年級新生 ，則需繳付港幣50,000元的建校費。新生入讀二至十二年級，
則需按比例繳付。
啟新書院校長Dr Harry Brown （白翰林），經由繳付建校費，家長更直接地參予了學校未來的發展
計劃。他指家長在教育方面的期望有增無減，學校需要不斷提升教學
質素及校內設施。
有意申請提名權於2013年8月入讀一年級的家長，可於2012
年9月1日（星期六）至9月30日（星期日）期間遞交申請表。如
欲申請入讀其他級別，亦可於2012年9月1日（星期六）起提出
申請。家長可致電3556 3556查詢詳情。
有關香港啓新書院
啓新書院是一間位於新界馬鞍山的私營獨立學校 (Private Independent School或PIS)。
啟新書院由英基學校協會附屬公司英基教育服務有限公司(ESL)
營運，並以教育本地與外籍駐港家庭子女為己任。
創校於2006年，啓新書院是一所為五歲到十八歲學生，提供全套
國際文憑課程(International Baccalaureate或IB)的一條龍英語授課全日制男女
學校。
自創校以來，啓新書院吸引不少優秀學生和教師入讀及執教。校內學
生來自全球四十個不同國家， 涵蓋二十五種不同的語言。
雖然以英語授課，啓新書院亦著重教授普通話和中國文化。
作者: mingmingyinyin 時間: 12-6-21 17:14
Similar to ESF Discovery College...
作者: newdaddy 時間: 12-6-21 17:23
Can we get the $400000 back after the kid finishes studies in RC?
Well I think this measure is as expected (as seen in DC) and who would not want a share from the assertive parents given the keen competiton for admission to International Schools? The Government should have subsidized RC and other international schools as they provide education to children of the middle class families (and above of course) and it is this middle class that can't get any benefit from the society (medical care, education for kids etc). Declaration of Interest: I am not RC parent.
作者: linachoy 時間: 12-6-21 18:12 標題: Radiomama 的帖子
It's a news for those who can afford.
作者: yuenru 時間: 12-6-21 18:33
I am shocked as we are in wait list. it's a robbery to me!!
http://www.renaissance.edu.hk/content/nomination-rights
作者: Maoku 時間: 12-6-21 18:52 標題: 回覆：啟新書院推出全新提名權計劃
教育商品化，不就是香港教育的失敗。只擔心未來收生的質素。富有的人有優先，不再是按小朋友的能力是否合適在RC！可憂。
作者: iseult 時間: 12-6-21 19:38
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作者: ikerberg 時間: 12-6-21 20:09
本帖最後由 ikerberg 於 12-6-22 08:36 編輯
呢間學校係咪痴咗缐呀
作者: bobbycheung 時間: 12-6-21 20:15
本帖最後由 bobbycheung 於 12-6-21 20:16 編輯
iseult 發表於 12-6-21 19:38 
私營學校要用收debenture etc. 無可厚非，若每一位新生也要收debentures，又可能未必每個家庭可負擔，這樣 ...
My understanding is that these Nomination Right payments are non-refundable. So they are different from the usual school debentures. Basically what these Nomination Rights do is to "buy" the students a priority over the others who couldn't afford the payment. If there are really worries that not every parent could afford to pay for a debenture, what the school could do instead is to give the parents a choice of either buying the debenture or paying an annual levy. There are schools in HK doing just that.
作者: ILBC 時間: 12-6-21 20:18
本帖最後由 ILBC 於 12-6-22 04:17 編輯
對我來說絕對係壞消息！
似乎就連面試機會都好渺茫…4O萬…唉！仲以為難得揾到一間適合又學費合理嘅IS，原來我一路都係發緊夢！
作者: Maoku 時間: 12-6-21 20:44 標題: 引用：私營學校要用收debenture+etc.+無可厚非，
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私營學校要用收debenture etc. 無可厚非，若每一位新生也要收debentures，又可能未必每個家庭可負擔，這樣 ...
作者: Radiomama 時間: 12-6-21 21:05 標題: 回覆：ikerberg 的帖子
學校無傻，只是市場舊肥豬肉太大。
身處這校，又愛又恨。今年阿仔遇上一位熱誠無限的班主任，好好！
作者: banbanban 時間: 12-6-21 21:35
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Come to think about it. This is actually a very biased policy. If you can't pay for the so-called nomination right, you would probably not even be able to get an interview (as all the interview spots will be taken up by those who are able to afford such a huge sum of money). So even assuming one's kids are very smart, there will be very little hope of getting into this school. This policy is very different from most international schools which only require you to pay debenture (or something similar) upon admission, as opposed to, prior to the interview. So, for RC, the initial screening test would be wealth, rather than your previous school reports, your CV, or even your date of application... And wealth, as we all know, is the most detestable form of discerning children's ability.
I therefore have very strong reservations about the values this school is teaching; and the type and quality of children that it's going to get once this policy is implemented...
作者: poonseelai 時間: 12-6-21 21:41
I can understand the requirement to buy debentures or pay extra levy once accepted, but not to pay a large sum of $ to get an interview chance.
作者: bobbycheung 時間: 12-6-21 22:06
http://www.renaissance.edu.hk/content/policy
It says ".... Limited to maximum 60 students in Year 1 for 2013-14 academic year. Within this category, nominees are ranked in order of receipt of their Nomination Rights Application Form."
How many Year 1 students do they normally take in? I can envisge people queueing up outside the school waiting to hand in the Form.
作者: bobbycheung 時間: 12-6-21 22:18
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poonseelai 發表於 12-6-21 21:41
I can understand the requirement to buy debentures or pay extra levy once accepted, but not to pay a ...
It's not just a chance of doing the assessment/interview. The Admission Policy says "...Applicants who pass the assessment/interview will be offered a place..." So RC is not choosing the ones with the highes marks or who perform best in the interview. So long as you pass the assessment/interview, you are in until all the places have been filled up. The only hope for students who are at the back of the queue is to have those in front fail the assessment/interview. Otherwise they wouldn't stand a chance.
作者: Lukbuk 時間: 12-6-22 10:41
bobbycheung 發表於 12-6-21 22:18
It's not just a chance of doing the assessment/interview. The Admission Policy says "...Applicants ...
或者我對佢哋今次o既計劃有偏見, 但我總覺得佢要求得咁大數額提名權, 佢唔會咁"輕易"放棄俾得起o既學生(家庭)同埋嗰四十萬
作者: bobbycheung 時間: 12-6-22 10:49
ILBC,
There are 3 categories of applicants having priority over these Nomination Right applicants ie. children of RC/ESF/DC teachers/staff and siblings of current RC students. Then it comes the 60 Nomination Right applicants. I am interested to know how many places will be left in Year 1 after taking in all these applicants. (By the way, these Nomination Right applicants may have siblings who would in future have the priority.) The 5th category is for children currently attending ESF kindergartens. If you don't fall into these 5 categories, the chance of admssion is probably nil.
作者: happy.rita 時間: 12-6-22 11:05 標題: 引用：Quote:bobbycheung+發表於+12-6-21+22:18+I
原帖由 Lukbuk 於 12-06-22 發表
或者我對佢哋今次o既計劃有偏見, 但我總覺得佢要求得咁大數額提名權, 佢唔會咁"輕易"放棄俾得起o既學生(家 ...
作者: Radiomama 時間: 12-6-22 11:35
Sibling: 年年唔同; Nomination Right: 60 ppl；ESF kindies有面試機會，但無guarantee有位。
Year one 合共收生: 168ppl
作者: 田心 時間: 12-6-22 11:35 標題: 回覆：啟新書院推出全新提名權計劃
當日政府比佢用超平地租，係希望本地學生有多個選擇。如今...真係有錢人先有得受優良教育！
作者: c200 時間: 12-6-22 11:58
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100% Agree
作者: joanthony 時間: 12-6-22 12:05 標題: 回覆：啟新書院推出全新提名權計劃
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作者: poonseelai 時間: 12-6-22 12:37
joanthony 發表於 12-6-22 12:05
我岩岩打過去問, 如果想8月中報後備生(如有位, 佢地會7月中網上公佈) 今年九月year 2, 咁駛唔駛比呢? 有無 ...
I think the fee will apply for the school year 2013-14. You better check with the school.
作者: tomintoul 時間: 12-6-22 12:42
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作者: Radiomama 時間: 12-6-22 13:05 標題: 回覆：tomintoul 的帖子
2012年入學的要交$23500, 這建校費一年前已公告天下的；其他ESF都有這新項目。
作者: Fatrara 時間: 12-6-22 13:19
Given that ESF accepts foreigners into their schools, does this apply to Mainland Chinese?? Or only those Mainland Chinese with Hong Kong ID cards? If they accept Mainland Chinese without HK ID cards, this would be a repeat of the maternity wards in our hospitals. How about 雙非? The parents are not Hong Kong permanent residents, but the kids are? And, if I am not wrong, a large number of them are from wealthy families.
By and large, while I can understand RC needs to build a healthy financial foundation for the school, but this one goes down extremely poor with the Hong Kong people. I think most of us can accept Harrows doing that, but ESF is different, it is the core, and in a wholesale scale, of providing an alternative education system to the Hong Kong mass for their children who do not want to, or cannot, survive in the local school system.
By doing this, ESF is turning itself into running prestigious wealthy private schools. And should the subvention to all the ESF schools (except RC and DC, they are private) one day being cancelled, This RC nomination rights would provide a precedence for all future newly turned ESF private schools to run their finances. That means, only the very wealthy kids can go to have an Alternative Education. We, as middle class, will join the rest to endure the Traditional Education.
This smells bad. And I strongly think that for those who support the IS system, we should organize and write to our legislators to oppose this, and also to pressure the government to look at the ESF system to be supported even more, instead of letting it go completely private.
I think it would be better for Hong Kong as a whole if our government could give more support to ESF (or other worthy non-profit organizations) to open more affordable IS (or better to call them "Alternative Schools") for more HK children. We all will be happier, and our children will be healthier.
Let us write to our legislators.
作者: joanthony 時間: 12-6-22 14:17 標題: 回覆：啟新書院推出全新提名權計劃
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作者: ILBC 時間: 12-6-22 14:30
bobbycheung 發表於 12-6-22 10:49 
ILBC,
There are 3 categories of applicants having priority over these Nomination Right applicants i ...
我明白，我女兒就係百無排最尾嗰批，或者應該連$800報名費都唔好蝕俾RC，去買一個近乎零希望嘅希望！
作者: clara1477 時間: 12-6-22 14:31 標題: 回覆：啟新書院推出全新提名權計劃
Feel bad after reading this email....everything is about $$$$$$
作者: bobbycheung 時間: 12-6-22 14:34
Radiomama 發表於 12-6-22 11:35
Sibling: 年年唔同; Nomination Right: 60 ppl；ESF kindies有面試機會，但無guarantee有位。
Year one 合 ...
1. 籌錢 $400,000 及 盡快排隊於9月1日入Form; or
2. try to be a full time teacher/staff of RC/ESF/DC.
For those who can't satisfy the above conditions, just pray that all those kids who have priority over yours will fail the assessment/interview.
作者: Lukbuk 時間: 12-6-22 14:39
ILBC 發表於 12-6-22 14:30
我明白，我女兒就係百無排最尾嗰批，或者應該連$800報名費都唔好蝕俾RC，去買一個近乎零希望嘅希望！ ...
我舊年咪就咁蠢蝕咗$800囉!! 仲要係IN 都無得IN!!!!!!
作者: bobbycheung 時間: 12-6-22 14:44
clara1477 發表於 12-6-22 14:31
Feel bad after reading this email....everything is about $$$$$$
"有關係者居之" (ie. the first three category applicants).
作者: polyu4537 時間: 12-6-22 14:44
if have need to pay $400,000, we have many many IS to choose.
作者: Lukbuk 時間: 12-6-22 14:45
polyu4537 發表於 12-6-22 14:44
if have need to pay $400,000, we have many many IS to choose.
RIGHT!! As far as i know, only Harrow charges more than RC!
作者: ramen 時間: 12-6-22 15:08
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Lukbuk 發表於 12-6-22 14:45
RIGHT!! As far as i know, only Harrow charges more than RC!
RC's $400,000 is sunk cost which is non-refundable whereas most IS debentures are refundable upon departure of school. I think RC's condition is the toughest one ~
作者: BALLNET 時間: 12-6-22 16:47
I was surprised when I saw this news on yahoo this morning. My son has been with RC for 2 years and he enjoyed the school very much. The school truely has very good teachers, and good course curriculum and great facilities. It is also an IS school which pays a lot of focus on Traditional Chinese, over the last two years I could see my child having a good balance of development in both English and Chinese. They have the weekly Show & Tell workshop which my son always get very excited about. It is sad that they now have this tough scheme, lucky that my child got in early else don't think he can make it he applies this year. RC is really a great school and I understand they now want to raise the bar... anyway $400000 is really too extravagant for the chance of an interview
作者: 田心 時間: 12-6-22 16:54 標題: 引用：if+have+need+to+pay+$400,000,+we+have+ma
原帖由 polyu4537 於 12-06-22 發表
if have need to pay $400,000, we have many many IS to choose.
作者: joanthony 時間: 12-6-22 17:10 標題: 回覆：啟新書院推出全新提名權計劃
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作者: Radiomama 時間: 12-6-22 17:12 標題: 回覆：BALLNET 的帖子
I talked to my boy this morning-you should work hard and behave well since you're lucky to study in RC.
作者: happy.rita 時間: 12-6-22 17:21 標題: 回覆：啟新書院推出全新提名權計劃
My child is just 1yr old, really can't imagine how terrible the situation will be after 3 yrs
作者: Radiomama 時間: 12-6-22 17:23 標題: 回覆：joanthony 的帖子
DC adopted the similar plan since last year!
作者: P-boy 時間: 12-6-22 17:27
My kid is on the wait list for year 1 in 2012. I have enquired and been told that the wait list is very long. Though my kid also wants to get into school, I was a bit angry when I was told I had a chance to jump the queue by giving them $400,000. Only jump the queue for waiting as no vacancies at present. This sounds like the old days in Hong Kong where there was no ICAC. If you want a fast track, $ to the authority. What is the moral value? How can a school solicit money like this? If you want a stable finance, you can ask every new student to buy debentures, non-refundable annual levy, etc. But it is not a good idea to re-prioritize those on the wait list with $400,000 or short list the interviewee in future.
作者: poonseelai 時間: 12-6-22 17:27
Fatrara 發表於 12-6-22 13:19
Given that ESF accepts foreigners into their schools, does this apply to Mainland Chinese?? Or onl ...
作者: Littleho 時間: 12-6-22 17:34 標題: 回覆：啟新書院推出全新提名權計劃
$400,000 is equivalent to total tuition fees of the entire primary school (P1-6) of my son's school
作者: PiyoC 時間: 12-6-22 17:36
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Agree you no more. It's totally unacceptable!! The Gov't should step in and control the possible chain effect.
Foresee that a number of parents who cannot afford this 400k would rush to other IS. This would simultaneously make the competition even more severe and resulting in the same build up of $$ bar finally.
I have decided to give up RC and consider to come back to LS. 向現實低頭.
作者: P-boy 時間: 12-6-22 17:43
PiyoC 發表於 12-6-22 17:36
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Agree you no more. It's totally unacceptable!! The Gov't should step in and con ...
Other IS are also much more expensive.
作者: iseult 時間: 12-6-22 18:01
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作者: bobbycheung 時間: 12-6-22 18:09
Let's see how much they are talking about. Taking Year 1 as an example. they normally receive $13.56M Tuition Fee a year (= 168 students x $80,700). The 60 Nomination Right students will bring in an extra of $24M (= 60 students x $400,000). It's almost twice the annual Tuition Fee and the school gets this extra money every year. No way RC is going to give up this 肥豬肉. In fact, they might be thinking how they could raise this maximum yearly intake of 60 without people noticing or objecting to it.
作者: kcvtsai 時間: 12-6-22 18:16
Wow, I know RC doesn't get any subsidies from the government, but didn't know they are so desperate for money... With the introduction of the building fee + now, this 400K... this is a bit tooooooo much!
作者: searcher123 時間: 12-6-22 19:04
This is good news to those parents with kid studying PIPs and tradition ESF schools because PIPs is no longer to rely the subsidy from sister schools and have more fund for school development.
But it is bad for those parents who want to send their kid to ESF schools especially kid currently in ESF kindergarten
作者: searcher123 時間: 12-6-22 23:07
that is I am refering to
作者: simplelife 時間: 12-6-22 23:09
is the money refundable?
作者: angela11 時間: 12-6-23 00:10
本帖最後由 angela11 於 12-6-23 00:28 編輯
I was very shocked to learn about the nomination right thing.
May I know where the number of "60" nomination rights is from (as I can't find it from its website). Thanks.
作者: crazy_ho 時間: 12-6-23 01:05
真係難以想像，一開口就要 $400,000. 唔知之後報名人數會唔會減少呢？
作者: bobbycheung 時間: 12-6-23 01:51
本帖最後由 bobbycheung 於 12-6-23 01:56 編輯
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It was under the section entitled "Priority for admission Assessment/Interview"
http://www.renaissance.edu.hk/content/policy
The original wording was like this:-
4. Children who are Nominees under the Nomination Rights Scheme for all year groups. Limited to maximum 60 students in Year 1 for 2013-14 academic year. Within this category, nominees are ranked in order of receipt of their Nomination Rights Application Form."
I think they have deleted the sentence from the website. Interesting to know why they did it.
作者: DragonBall 時間: 12-6-23 02:05
Just wondering the immediately result after this scheme announced? I'll give up this school, there's many choices out of RC....can imagine that will affect the quality of entry student!
作者: bobbycheung 時間: 12-6-23 02:32
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The likely result is that people will keep flocking in especially those whose kids are for various reason unlikely to get admitted in the first place but who could now afford to pay $400,000 and jump the queue.
作者: birdbird 時間: 12-6-23 15:42
本帖最後由 birdbird 於 12-6-23 15:44 編輯
The school has set up a very bad example for our children that money really talks. when my boy was 4, I appreciated the school's interivew arrangement, which was to screen out those kids unable to talk and understand the English language instead of picking up the smartest kids (some kids have potentials but they don't shine when they are just 4!) My son was lucky to get a place.
Now, the school sets up a scheme to suck money from a group of rich and prospective parents who are longed for a seat for their kids. Using money to get a high place in the interivew list is unethical. I don't know why an education institution dare propose such evil stuff, telling the parents and students that money is the king of all! The ESL should be shameful of luanching this scheme. I would like to seek support from the prospective parents, though some parents may think that I'm naive, to boycott the nomination rights scheme and make the P1 application as usual. Let's maintain a fair game for our children and show the ESLthat what she proposes is wrong and evil.
作者: Maoku 時間: 12-6-23 16:00 標題: 引用：+本帖最後由+birdbird+於+12-6-23+15:44+編
原帖由 birdbird 於 12-06-23 發表
本帖最後由 birdbird 於 12-6-23 15:44 編輯
The school has set up a very bad example for our childr ...
作者: tingtingting 時間: 12-6-23 16:12 標題: 回覆：啟新書院推出全新提名權計劃
Although I don't endorse the new policy I do have some sympathy for the school. These days schools can't get good teachers from overseas unless they are ready to pay as much as $40k (including rental allowance) for each teacher month after month. What can the schools do if their teachers need to spend more than half of the salaries on rents?
作者: birdbird 時間: 12-6-23 16:20
tingtingting 發表於 12-6-23 16:12
Although I don't endorse the new policy I do have some sympathy for the school. These days schools can't get good teachers from overseas unless they are ready to pay as much as $40k (including rental allowance) for each teacher month after month. What can the schools do if their teachers need to spend more than half of the salaries on rents?
Please note that the current parents are facing the increasing school fees already.
The raise in the teacher's salaries are covered by the incerase of the school fees.
Moreover, the campus has been let out for running ESL language and sports classes.
Some private swimming clubs also rent the school pool for training classes.
ESL has already asked the 2012 new parents to pay $23,500 for the building levy which will rise up to $50,000 in 2013.
ESL has already been doing everything she can to get money from parents.
I just wonder why ESL keeps shouting 'lack of money'.
Perhaps, ESL should let the parents have a clear view of the books before proposing any other money sucking schemes.
作者: birdbird 時間: 12-6-23 16:23
本帖最後由 birdbird 於 12-6-23 16:24 編輯
My another view of the scheme is that, $400,000 is a large amount of money. With his huge sum of money, prospective parents actually have far more better choices than RC, e.g. CIS. Hope that this group of super rich families won't pick RC and ordinary families can still enjoy a fair game of admission.
作者: bobbycheung 時間: 12-6-23 17:06
tingtingting 發表於 12-6-23 16:12
Although I don't endorse the new policy I do have some sympathy for the school. These days schools c ...
作者: angela11 時間: 12-6-23 22:12
I just checked DC's website and found DC's nomination rights- also HK$400,000, with same terms (or at least similar, as I didn't scrutinize and compare each term).
Anyone knows when DC started its nomination rights? If it's not a new thing for 2013-14 year, then it seems RC is simply following suit. Sigh!
作者: MKS 時間: 12-6-23 23:48
上年DC已開始提名權！但上年在EK的回應好似無咁激烈？？
宜家就有提名權，又有建校費，遲d會唔會又有其他不同項目要父母俾錢？
苦了我們中產家庭
作者: md23 時間: 12-6-24 07:55
Seems like pure demand and supply. As a private institution, I don't see why RC shouldn't be allowed to do it.
作者: bobbycheung 時間: 12-6-24 13:02
Kids come and go every year, but they are the minority. Year 1 kids remain the "core". Admitting more than 1/3 of the Year 1 students on the basis of their ability and willingness to pay $400,000 is a bit like 自毀長城 to me.
作者: myhappyfamily 時間: 12-6-24 23:25
最重要的一點 並不是她們收多少提名費, 建校費或種種型式學費以外的收費, 而是她們拿到這筆錢, 她們會把多少錢投放回本校教育裡, 還是拿這筆錢作別的用途.
作者: bobbycheung 時間: 12-6-25 01:12
CSJ安樂窩
I guess any school doing it would be the same, wouldn't it?
作者: DragonBall 時間: 12-6-25 09:56
The fee is huge compare with other IS, since it's NOT debenture and it's non-refundable! knowing RC/DC have to repay the loan to ESF, hope the scheme wouldn't be so taught after all loan been settled few years later.
作者: WYmom 時間: 12-6-25 10:41
I doubt if people will choose to pay this for a priority...I believe many people will choose to apply other IS then.
作者: bobbycheung 時間: 12-6-29 17:15
http://www.edu-kingdom.com/forum ... &extra=page%3D1
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ ... l?ito=feeds-newsxml
HK係咁, UK 又係咁. 小學係咁, 大學都係咁. 
作者: do-re-me 時間: 12-8-7 13:52 標題: 回覆：Radiomama 的帖子
40萬畢業會唔會比返你？
作者: liyinfai 時間: 12-8-7 14:28
We should launch a complaint system back up by mass media and all IS parents.
作者: Radiomama 時間: 12-8-7 15:00
回復 do-re-me 的帖子
Non-refundable.
作者: bigbighei 時間: 12-8-11 09:27 標題: 引用：Quote:bobbycheung+發表於+12-6-21+22:18+I
原帖由 Lukbuk 於 12-06-22 發表
或者我對佢哋今次o既計劃有偏見, 但我總覺得佢要求得咁大數額提名權, 佢唔會咁"輕易"放棄俾得起o既學生(家 ...
作者: bigbighei 時間: 12-8-11 09:28 標題: 引用：Quote:bobbycheung+發表於+12-6-21+22:18+I
原帖由 Lukbuk 於 12-06-22 發表
或者我對佢哋今次o既計劃有偏見, 但我總覺得佢要求得咁大數額提名權, 佢唔會咁"輕易"放棄俾得起o既學生(家 ...
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