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作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-6-6 12:43 標題: Can my son hold two conditional offers in any university via non-JUPAS?

If my son wants to take Medicine or QFin in CUHK, he may have two conditional offers, say Medicine 41/45, QFin 37/45. If I don't mind to pay and he is interested in both programs, can he hold both offers before the announcement of IB results?

作者: Shootastar 時間: 12-6-6 13:24

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ANChan59

I think CU will not issue 2 conditional offers at the same time. If you accept the offer made to your first choice, they would not proceed further with your 2nd and 3rd choices.

Only if you were declined your first choice or you withdrew your first choce , CU would then consider your next choice.

作者: Shootastar 時間: 12-6-6 13:29

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ANCHAn59

By the way, does your son apply for admission for courses commencing September 2012 or 2013?

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-6-6 13:34

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Shootastar
How about HKU and HKUST? The same logic.

We are planning a stagger strategy like this

                                 CUHK                      HKU                HKUST

40+                            MBBS                      MBBS             BBA
38-40                         BBA                      BBA-Law             ???
35-38                         QFin                         Law                ???

If he takes the first choice, the conditional offers will be more or less the same. We are looking at the safety net.... Any advice?

ANChan59

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-6-6 13:34

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ANCHAn59

2013, any difference??
Also, we are considering non-JUPAS and not JUPAS.

作者: lifewithlucksss 時間: 12-6-6 13:44

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作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-6-6 13:52

lifewithlucksss 發表於 12-6-6 13:44
it is barely possible.

What do you mean? How?

作者: Shootastar 時間: 12-6-6 14:24

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ANChan 59

My daughter applies to CU and HKU and she got both offer from CU and HKU. I have already paid the deposit to CU but not yet to HKU. So I think it is perfectly alright for you to hold 2 offers from 2 different universities. However, my duaghter will decide whether to settle in CU or HKU sometime next week. If she chooses HKU, I will pay the deposit to HKU and inform CU accordingly so that CU can make the offer to other applicants My daughter is an Non-Jupas applicant. I have no idea in case of HKUST because she did not make application to it.

作者: Shootastar 時間: 12-6-6 14:28

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Yes, we are talking about NON-JUPAS application.

If your son applies for admission in 201/12 cycle for medicine, the spaces are double for non-jupas applicants because of 2 cohorts - one for DSE and the other for AL. However, for non-jupas applicant, he will be considered for both cohorts by both CU and HKU if your son applies for medicine.

If he applies in the application cycle 12/13, there will only be one cohort i.e. 6 years program medicine and the spaces reserved for non-jupas will be about 50 (appr) for each university

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-6-6 14:53

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I see, the double cohort effect in 2012.
The spaces of 50 per cohort, so its 100 in total per university?

I guess the total spaces of MBBS will drop as single cohort, 210 per university, still 1/3 non-JUPAS, around 70.....

He loves HKU MBBS and BBA-Law, so he can only take one......

作者: Shootastar 時間: 12-6-6 15:15

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I did not attend the open day of CU but I did attend HKU'.

We were told by HKU that for medicine, usually they accepted about 25 NON-Jupas applicants each year when the class size was 160. From 2012, the Government provided more funding to the faculty to increase the intake to 210. The increased space will be allocated equally to Non-jupas and Jupas applicants so that the seats available to Non-jupas will be about 50. Coupling with the double cohorts effect, this year's spaces for Non-jupas will be arouind 100 in 2012. It will become normal in 2013 and about 50 Non-Jupas students will be admitted.from 2013 onward.

I understand that amongst those 50 spaces, HKU will allocate about 60% to high school applicants and 40% to graduate/undergraduate applicants.

In case of CU, its webpage showed that about 60 to 70% of the spaces will be allocated to local applicants. In other words, about 30 to 40% of the spaces are allocated to Non-Jupas applicants (i.e. 63 to 84 spaces). However, CU tends to admit more transfer overseas medical students. So I estimate that from 2013 onward, the number of spaces available for Non-jupas high school applicants is about 30 to 40 only.

作者: nintendo 時間: 12-6-6 15:20

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我諗我冇咁偉大，話唔霸住個位，留番比其他人。
我會兩間都比錢留位，或者過一段時間，等真係諗清楚，先 GIVE UP 一間。

BTW，先前同 CUHK admission people 傾過，一個人只會有一個 offer from CUHK。
冇問過 HKU 或 UST，我覺得應該都唔會比兩個 OFFERS。不過都係問學校好 D。

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-6-6 15:23

I didn't attend the HKU admission talk this year, but we attended that in 2010. My understanding is 160 spaces, 1/3 EAS, 1/3 JUAPS and 1/3 non-JUPAS, same as CUHK.

If no more EAS, and add 50 more spaces, I guess the split will be more on JUPAS is political correct. Definitely more than 50, less than 90......

In CUHK,among non-JUPAS, 15/55 are graduates or undergraduates in previous years. Even less in HKU.

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-6-6 15:29

nintendo 發表於 12-6-6 15:20
我諗我冇咁偉大，話唔霸住個位，留番比其他人。
我會兩間都比錢留位，或者過一段時間，等真係諗清楚，先 G ...

即是要用跨大學來搞安全網了，風險高左。

我肯定留多過 1 個位.... 出成績，即放.....

作者: nintendo 時間: 12-6-6 15:30

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Shootastar 發表於 12-6-6 15:15
I understand that amongst those 50 spaces, HKU will allocate about 60% to high school applicants and 40% to graduate/undergraduate applicants.

In case of CU, its webpage showed that about 60 to 70% of the spaces will be allocated to local applicants. In other words, about 30 to 40% of the spaces are allocated to Non-Jupas applicants (i.e. 63 to 84 spaces). However, CU tends to admit more transfer overseas medical students. So I estimate that from 2013 onward, the number of spaces available for Non-jupas high school applicants is about 30 to 40 only

完來係咁
咁，即係如果當初唔夠分入，可能去外國打個白鴿轉，再考 CU 或 HKU 可能都係一個 OPTION。
當然，去外國讀時，應該都要選對科 ( biomed，immunology 之類？) ，& GPA 要高。
我咁諗，WORK 唔WORK？

作者: nintendo 時間: 12-6-6 15:32

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ANChan59 發表於 12-6-6 15:29
即是要用跨大學來搞安全網了，風險高左。

我肯定留多過 1 個位.... 出成績，即放.....

其實間間大學出 OFFER 時間都唔同，全選香港的大學可能好 D
如果夾埋美國英國，肯定時間好唔同
間間都比錢留位，都幾 "容"

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-6-6 15:37

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外國普通大學就唔會啦，心儀大學會照俾。買保險都唔駛好似香港考小學掛.....

作者: nintendo 時間: 12-6-6 15:46

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唔心儀，當初都唔會申請啦
唔好話多，當你申請 HKU，CUHK，UST 三間都收
但有時問題係，最中意個間，可能最遲先出 OFFER
較唔中意個間，最早出 OFFER
時間有先有後，唔諗得咁多

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-6-6 15:53

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According to 2012, HKU fast track - Jan, CUHK - Feb, HKUST - Mar/Apr....
First milestone is my son's PG after the final exam of IB first year.

作者: Shootastar 時間: 12-6-6 16:47

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ANChan59

My daughter's case is different. The conditions imposed by both universities have been fulfilled by my daughter so she can make a decision before the release of the result in July 2012.

作者: Shootastar 時間: 12-6-6 16:49

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Thanks for sharing.

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-6-6 16:50

For this year, some conditional offers from CUHK just equivalent to unconditional offers, due to more spaces and CUHK competes with HKU for the same catchment.

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-6-6 16:51

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Can you Pm me? I would like to know a bit about the details, if appropriate.

作者: Shootastar 時間: 12-6-6 16:52

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The answer is yes and no.

According to CU, your degree should be oif GPA 3.8 or above or high 2:1 or 1 from a HIGH ranking university. This is still a difficult bar to overcome.

作者: Shootastar 時間: 12-6-6 16:53

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ANChan 59

Your information is correct and it is my daughter's case. So she can release one space once she makes a decision.

作者: Shootastar 時間: 12-6-6 16:59

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Perhaps you may wish to know:-

(a) you can pay deposit to one US college which is $500 to $700 (US). You cannot pay the deposit for more than one college because you are required to make the declaration at the time of payment.

(b) In case of UK, there is no need to pay the deposit until the conditions of offer are fulfilled.The deadline for payment is mid-August.

(c) If you have 2 offers from different local universities, at most you would pay twice. You would not pay the third time if the first two are your dream choices.

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-6-6 16:59

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HKU MBBS, my son and I prefer Problem-Based Approach >> Integrated System Approach.

作者: Shootastar 時間: 12-6-6 17:02

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If that is the case, I think you will pay deposits for 3 times. Anyway, why not send an e-mail to the 2nd and 3rd university asking them to speed up the decision?

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-6-6 17:06

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作者: nintendo 時間: 12-6-6 17:22

ANChan59 發表於 12-6-6 16:59
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HKU MBBS, my son and I prefer Problem-Based Approach >> Integrated System Ap ...

Can you share more how MBBS of HKU and CUHK are different.

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-6-6 17:41

nintendo 發表於 12-6-6 17:22
Can you share more how MBBS of HKU and CUHK are different.

A journal paper related to your question. Check the introduction and the research problem sections...
http://mef.med.ufl.edu/files/2009/02/task_based_learning.pdf

The course description of both universities.

http://www.med.hku.hk/images/document/03edu/undergrad/5-yr_MBBS.pdf

http://www.med.cuhk.edu.hk/v7/Doc/Medicine%20programme%20objective%202008-2009.pdf

作者: cchristieee 時間: 12-6-7 20:33

I am very sure that for CUHK, if you have received an offer from your first choice programme, they will still consider your 2nd and 3rd choice programmes. However if there does not seem to be any progress, contact the admissions office and they will contact you to see whether you still want to be considered. Ultimately, you can only accept one offer out of the maximum of 3.

作者: Shootastar 時間: 12-6-7 22:08

cchristieee 發表於 12-6-7 20:33
I am very sure that for CUHK, if you have received an offer from your first choice programme, they w ...

It is true that your 1st, 2nd and 3rd choices may be considered at the same time. Even if the 2nd choice program wants to give you an offer, it cannot do so unless your 1st choice program decides to deny your application OR you withdraw the application in respect of your first choice.

My D was interviewed for the 2nd choice program in November 2011 and her 1st choice program in December 2011. Although the 2nd choice program admission tutor told her that they wanted to give her an offer but they could not do so without the disposal of the 1st choice application. Recently, she was given an offer for her 1st choice program. After payment of the deposit, her 2nd and 3rd choice were declined.

作者: eschung 時間: 12-6-15 15:06

Your choices seems to be risky cause your 2nd and 3rd choices are both hot programmes. It is stated in the HKU's admission requirement that BBA law & IBGM only consider 1st choice applicants. Although QF is not included but considering its past requirements you should expect the same treatment.

Does your son has anything to back up his application for MBB? I know a girl with IB38 was accepted by HKU because of her family background (all doctors). I am not acquainted to her, so can't tell you more. Certainly she has a brilliant profo to make her stands out.

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-6-15 16:21

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Good reminder:

1. May have excellent IB PG, say 40/42, HL, 777. He will know the details early July.
2. Excellent CAS, his EE related to medical field.

3. Shadowing in both private and public hospitals, clinical practices and clinical research for 4 weeks in last summer.

4. Visit some regulatory bodies in Asia Pacific for Medical Device, say SFDA of PRC......

5. Recommendation from Professors and Consultant Chief....

作者: Shootastar 時間: 12-6-15 16:52

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Wow! Your son should have no difficulty to put together a very competitive application for the MBBS program. If he can add more about dedication and perseverance on a particular activity and how such activity helps him to develop interpersonal, organizational and leadership skill and being a team player, his application should be a A+ application.

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-6-15 16:55

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Thanks for your tips. Will do.

But non-JUPAS, very keen competition. Wait and see.

I highlight some items related to medical field and other achievements & CAS will demonstrate his leadership and as team player.......

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-6-15 17:05

eschung 發表於 12-6-15 15:06
Your choices seems to be risky cause your 2nd and 3rd choices are both hot programmes. It is state ...

I take your point, he needs to reconsider the choices and priorities after knowing the PG in July.

I know some boys applied HKU - BBA(Law), CUHK - Medicine, HKUST - Global Business.

作者: Shootastar 時間: 12-6-15 17:36

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After reading the information posted by you regarding the problem approach teaching, my D felt that the problem base approach is more appropriate to her. Thanks for your sharing.

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