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作者: abcd0001 時間: 12-5-23 11:08 標題: 澳大學搶港尖子不計文憑試成績

I think it should be a very hot topic for coming months, anybody has detail informations or most important the school list. There would be another great struggle between schools to enter the list.

【明報專訊】首屆文憑試7月20日放榜，部分海外大學已提前來港搶招生。澳洲國立大學和皇家墨爾本理工學院今年試驗，准予本港約百所名校尖子以校內模擬試成績報考，各項課程基本要求學生考獲2科4級至5*級成績，不計算文憑試成績。獲取錄者可趕及在當地7月開學。

[size=150%]現時共有26所澳洲院校認可文憑試學歷，並已公布相關入學要求。專營海外升學的IDP教育，其高級經理陳成傑表示，澳洲院校一般於2月和7月開學，7月20日放榜難趕及當地開學，故澳洲國立大學和皇家墨爾本理工學院將推出取錄文憑生試驗，讓港生可及早開學。他直言，由於計劃尚新，至今未有港生正式報考。

計校內模擬試趕7月開學

位於坎培拉、全球排名首40位內的澳洲國立大學，其皇牌課程如法律、精算等，要求文憑生於校內考得2科5至5*級；至於工商管理、財務等科目，則要求2科4至5級成績。據悉，兩大學已設本港約百所名校清單，這些學校的中六生可憑校內成績報考，一旦獲取錄，即使文憑試成績欠理想亦不影響入學。

陳成傑續稱，今年查詢海外升學資訊者較去年同期上升一成多，而申請英國聯招（UCAS）的港生人數亦錄得雙位升幅。他呼籲有意升學海外的考生盡早向專家查詢。

作者: elbar 時間: 12-5-23 11:52 標題: I+think+it+should+be+a+very+hot+topic+fo

原帖由 abcd0001 於 12-05-23 發表
I think it should be a very hot topic for coming months, anybody has detail informations or most imp ...

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作者: abcd0001 時間: 12-5-23 12:11

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I dont think so.

What can you do if you are in F5/6? Go to another school in the list?

In Junior form, you can apply to another school but I think we should consider it when we apply for F1. Just like you would consider whether the school has IGCSE or IB beside the NSS. Right.

It is a right point to consider if the scheme is work. Agree?
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作者: abcd0001 時間: 12-5-23 12:17

Entereing a secondary school is not the ultimate goal .

University place is the final target.

But some pathways we need to consider it now. That all.

作者: martie 時間: 12-5-24 00:25

abcd0001 發表於 12-5-23 11:08
I think it should be a very hot topic for coming months, anybody has detail informations or most imp ...

Do you have the school list to share please.

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-5-24 06:42 標題: 回覆：abcd0001 的帖子

Elbra is right, you post the wrong sub-forum and so obvious. You can refer to forum regulation.

作者: Snakemama 時間: 12-5-24 12:52

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我覺得擺係呢度ok. 我昨天一見abcd0001post 出來，就諗：如果個school list係升中放榜前出咗，咁啲要叩門嘅家長又要重新考慮了。
可能本來冇諗住叩門嘅，都會諗諗.

作者: abcd0001 時間: 12-5-24 13:49

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Sorry I don't.

if anybody has it, please share it with us. Thanks.

I also check with IDP but I think the scheme is not well prepared and the consultant is not awared about that. Maybe I will go for the coming exhibition of IDP and consult the school directly.

There is an exhibition on 30 Jun and 1 July in wanchai.

作者: CHAN-2 時間: 12-5-24 14:18

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http://www.edu-kingdom.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=2363997&extra=page%3D1

The one "官塘福建中學討論" is really posted in wrong place, that should be handled.

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-5-24 14:43

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My friend, I just browsed through the Agent - IDP (HK Office), ANU and RMIT websites. I can't find any info related to the said context, but confirmed that a Study Trade Show will be in July in HK.
I am not 100% sure the comment of the Senior Manager is valid, but more like advertisement for the Trade Show.

If you want the 114 school names, I recommend you to go to EDB website and refer to the 114 EMI schools.

作者: abcd0001 時間: 12-5-24 14:55

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Thanks a lot. You are really great.

I also check their web and also call IDP office yesterday. There is no information concerning the scheme and even the consultant. So I say I check it in the exhibition later.

Maybe you are right, it is just a trick or advertisement.

As parent, we try our best to explore different pathways or possibilities

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-5-24 15:04

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So, I become the education consultant, free of charge, check the EMI list .........
It's not logical, even local universities can't grant offers to the new HKDSE candidates based on internal exam results. They only used that for Index Schools and identified elites for interviews and cut short the screening time once the HKDSE results will be announced in coming summer.
Friendly reminder, Don't trust our media.......

作者: elbar 時間: 12-5-24 23:38 標題: I+think+it+should+be+a+very+hot+topic+fo

原帖由 abcd0001 於 12-05-23 發表
I think it should be a very hot topic for coming months, anybody has detail informations or most imp ...

以常理推論估計是百多間 Band 1 英中

作者: 長生不老 時間: 12-5-25 01:05

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作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-5-25 01:40

本帖最後由 ANChan59 於 12-5-25 11:30 編輯

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提及RMIT普通大學........
ANU is a much better U, I still can't find any info in their official website related to the topic.
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Due to my careless and the previous comment on ANU, I felt sorry and withdrew my comment. Thanks for your reminder.

作者: abcd0001 時間: 12-5-25 11:22

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2011-2012英国“泰晤士报高等教育副刊”世界大学排名前200强（Times Higher Education)

34 University of Hong Kong 香港大学 Hong Kong 中国香港 72.3

Australian National University

澳大利亚国立大学

Australia

澳大利亚

71.2

http://www.hongkong.idp.com/about_us/wurrankings.aspx

Don't depend on it only but all this ranking are good references

I think ANU is a good university.

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-5-25 11:25

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Agreed and I will amend it in due course.

作者: elbar 時間: 12-5-25 14:09

或者可看看 ANU College Foundation Program 收生標準

ANU College Academic Entry Requirements

Country

Standard Foundation
(2 Semesters)

Extended Foundation
(3 Semesters)

Hong Kong

HKCEE Form 5 - Grade D in 4 subjects

HK Band 1 Schools

Form 4 - Term 2: Minimum 75 % average (or Level 5 average)*

Form 5 - Term 1: Minimum 70 % average (or Level 4 average)

Other Schools – not applicable

Form 5

HK Band 1 Schools – minimum 65% average (or Level 4 average)**

Other Schools – minimum 75% average (or Level 5 average)

Form 6

“HK Band 1 Schools” - Minimum 60% average (or Level 3 average)**

Other Schools - minimum 65% average (or Level 4 average)

HKDSE - 14 points (3, 3, 4, 4), All subjects must be above 3

HKCEE Form 5 - Grade D in 3 subjects

Form 5

HK Band 1 Schools – minimum 60% average (or Level 3 average)**

Other Schools – minimum 65% average (or Level 4 average)

Form 6

HK Band 1 Schools - Minimum 55% average (or Level 2 average)**

Other Schools - minimum 60% average (or Level 3 average)

Hong Kong

*Early Admissions Scheme - this assumes the student has not yet completed Form 5

**For average score calculation of Form 5 and Form 6 results, calculation will be based on 3 Core plus 1 Elective, or 2 Core plus 2 Elective. Core must include English and Maths.

作者: abcd0001 時間: 12-5-25 14:56

本帖最後由 abcd0001 於 12-5-25 15:11 編輯

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It sounds interesting.

Form 5

HK Band 1 Schools – minimum 65% average (or Level 4 average)**

Other Schools – minimum 75% average (or Level 5 average)

Form 6

“HK Band 1 Schools” - Minimum 60% average (or Level 3 average)**

Other Schools - minimum 65% average (or Level 4 average)

HKDSE - 14 points (3, 3, 4, 4), All subjects must be above 3

Follow your table, ANU really consider the inhouse result of HK students for admission. Although it is the foundation program, I want to remind that Australia U is running on the 3-year course base.

ie 1 year foundation + 3yrs University = total 4 years same as HKDSE

if you enter after F5( not take HKDSE), you will gruadate one year earlier than your classmate.

Anyway the foundation pathway is the easier one but limited to certain courses only ie no Med. / Law...etc

Do you have the link for admission to undergraduate course? Do it also consider the inhouse results?

作者: Yanamami 時間: 12-5-25 15:46

elbar 發表於 12-5-25 14:09
或者可看看 ANU College Foundation Program 收生標準

*Early Admissions Scheme - this assumes the student has not yet completed Form 5
**For average score calculation of Form 5 and Form 6 results, calculation will be based on 3 Core plus 1 Elective, or 2 Core plus 2 Elective. Core must include English and Maths.
*******************************************************
嘩! 2 cores 計英&數. o岩晒我女. 佢中文唔掂當.

作者: abcd0001 時間: 12-5-25 16:10

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I just go through the admission requirement of ANU for international students, the table is attached

http://info.anu.edu.au/studyat/assets/International_Office/pdf/intadmissions12.pdf

They require good HKDSE result ( 4 core + 1 > 25 points in most subjects, I guess total is 30 ie A*=6 )or simply, you should get a place in 8 HK's U by that results.:;pppp:

It is a good path if you like ANU.

作者: elbar 時間: 12-5-25 19:03

本帖最後由 elbar 於 12-5-25 19:48 編輯

abcd0001 發表於 12-5-25 16:10
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I just go through the admission requirement of ANU for international students, the table is attached

http://info.anu.edu.au/studyat/assets/International_Office/pdf/intadmissions12.pdf

Recognition of Qualifications for HKDSE

University Name	Country
Australian National University	Australia

作者: elbar 時間: 12-5-25 19:56

abcd0001 發表於 12-5-25 14:56
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It sounds interesting.

ANU College Foundation to ANU Academic Entry Requirements

Students are required to meet the following entry requirements for their chosen undergraduate degree program [size=80%](2011 ANU Admissions).

	Program	Overall Score	Prerequisites and other requirements
ANU College of Arts and Social Sciences (CASS)	B Arts	73%
	B Archaeological Practice	73%
	B Art History & Curatorship	74%
	B Classical Studies	74%
	B Development Studies	74%
	B Environmental Studies	74%
	B European Studies	74%
	B International Relations	75%
	B Policy Studies	74%
	B Languages (CASS)	73%	February start only for language beginners.
	B Latin American Studies	74%
	B Middle Eastern & Central Asian Studies	74%
	B Music1	Completion of Foundation and audition by submission of DVD/CD recording.
	B Philosophy (Hons) Arts	February start only. Case by case assessment. College approval required.
	B Professional Music Practice1	73%	AND audition by submission of DVD/CD recording
	B Design Arts2	February start only. Selection based on completion of Foundation program and submission of portfolio with application. May be slides, photos, web-link or on disc.
	B Digital Arts
	B Visual Arts2
	Diploma Arts
ANU College of Asia and the Pacific (CAP)	B Languages (CAP)	73%	February start only for language beginners.
	B Asia-Pacific Studies	73%
	B Security Analysis (Asia-Pacific)	73%
ANU College of Business and Economics (CBE)	B Actuarial Studies	Case by case	80% Calculus. Case by case consideration. College approval required.
	B Business Administration	75%	Assumed Knowledge - Maths
	B Commerce	75%
	B Economics	75%
	B Finance	75%
	B International Business	75%	February start only. Assumed Knowledge - Maths
	B Statistics	75%	Advanced Maths.
ANU College of Engineering and Computer Sciences (CECS)	B Advanced Computing	75%	February start only. Advanced Maths.
	B Advanced Computing (R & D)	95%	February start only. Advanced Maths. Case by case consideration. College approval required.
	B Engineering	75%	60% Calculus. Physics is assumed knowledge
	B Engineering (R & D)		February start only. Case by case consideration. College approval required.
	B Information Technology	73%	February start only. 60% Calculus.
	B Software Engineering	75%	February start only. 60% Calculus.
ANU College of Law (COL)	B Laws	85%	Case by case consideration. College approval required. 80% Advanced Academic English.
ANU Colleges of Science (CoS)	B Biotechnology	73%	February start only. 60% Chemistry.
	B Computational Science (Hons)	94%	Advanced Maths. Case by case consideration. College approval required.
	B Genetics	75%	February start only. 60% Chemistry.
	B Global & Ocean Science (Hons)	84%	February start only. Maths & Chemistry. Case by case consideration. College approval required
	B Interdisciplinary Studies (Sustainability)	73%
	B Interdisciplinary Studies (Hons) (Sustainability)	84%	Case by case consideration. College approval required.
	B Medical Science	75%	February start only. 60% Chemistry.
	B Philosophy (Hons) Science	Case by case	Prior knowledge of certain subjects. Case by case consideration. College approval required
	B Psychology (Hons)	84%	Case by case consideration. College approval required
	B Science	73%	Prior knowledge of certain subjects.
	B Science (Forest Sciences)
	B Science (Psychology)
	B Science (Res & Env Mgt)
	B Science (Science Communication
	B Science (Advanced Hons)	84%	Case by case consideration. College approval required.

The above information is subject to change. Please refer to the Letter of Offer provided by The Australian National University for final entry requirements. Please note that minimum grades may vary within the prerequisites.
1 Details of the audition requirements can be found at http://music.anu.edu.au/auditions. Students who successfully audition for the B Music degree may be offered a conditional offer to ANU subject to successfully completing the ANU College Foundation Studies Program.

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2 Details of the folio requirements can be found on the web at http://soa.anu.edu.au/how-apply/undergraduate-applications. Students who are successful in the portfolio selection process for B Visual Arts or the B Design Arts degree may be offered a conditional offer to ANU subject to successfully completing the ANU College Foundation Studies Program.

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作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-5-25 20:39

The original post talking about undergraduate, after disclosing those are BS. Now downgrade to foundation course, very soon downgrade to secondary school...... Because its ANU......... Advertisement and then advertisement .....

I can't bear with this thread......

作者: ChiChiPaPa 時間: 12-5-26 06:57

http://news.mingpao.com/20120526/gfb1.htm

「參與計劃的澳洲國立大學，有開辦屬尖子熱門科的法律和精算課程，要求港生在校內有兩科5級加兩科5**級成績，其餘學科則要求兩科4 級加兩科5級。」

作者: khmama 時間: 12-5-26 11:25

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有呢個成績都唔使入ANU啦.

作者: elbar 時間: 12-5-26 12:18

本帖最後由 elbar 於 12-5-27 22:01 編輯

ChiChiPaPa 發表於 12-5-26 06:57
http://news.mingpao.com/20120526/gfb1.htm

「參與計劃的澳洲國立大學，有開辦屬尖子熱門科的法律和精算課程，要求港生在校內有兩科5級加兩科5**級成績，其餘學科則要求兩科4 級加兩科5級。」

elbar 發表於 12-5-25 14:09

Form 5
HK Band 1 Schools – Minimum 65% average (or Level 4 average)**

Form 6
HK Band 1 Schools” - Minimum 60% average (or Level 3 average)**

HKDSE - 14 points (3, 3, 4, 4), All subjects must be above 3

Hong Kong

**For average score calculation of Form 5 and Form 6 results, calculation will be based on 3 Core plus 1 Elective, or 2 Core plus 2 Elective. Core must include English and Maths.

依照以上資料估計, 入讀 ANU 法律和精算課 程校內成績

Form 6 Mock Exam

HK Band 1 Schools – Minimum 70%-80% average (or Level 5-5** average)**

Predicted HKDSE - 22 points (5, 5, 5**, 5**), All subjects must be above 5

Hong Kong

**For average score calculation of Form 6 results, calculation will be based on 3 Core plus 1 Elective, or 2 Core plus 2 Elective. Core must include English and Maths.

其餘學科

Form 6 Mock Exam

HK Band 1 Schools – Minimum 65%-70% average (or Level 4-5 average)**

Predicted HKDSE - 18 points (4, 4, 5, 5), All subjects must be above 4

Hong Kong

**For average score calculation of Form 6 results, calculation will be based on 3 Core plus 1 Elective, or 2 Core plus 2 Elective. Core must include English and Maths.

khmama 發表於 12-5-26 11:25
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有呢個成績都唔使入ANU啦.

此計劃吸引性在此 (好像以前 A Level學生在 F.6 入讀本地及海外大學)

本港升學競爭激烈，即使成績頂尖，亦未必確保能入讀本地大學的精算、法律科，適逢澳洲國立大學亦主打商科及法學，建議校內成績優秀但擔心公開試成績未如理想的文憑生，不妨嘗試。

作者: abcd0001 時間: 12-5-27 00:02

各位高手可能家中子女都是在top band 1 school 的高才生,心中計算的是入 Law or Med. A level 考 3A to 5A
但想想大部份是中游學生. 這個計劃可大有吸引力.
須知澳洲是精於education export, 他們是有想過的...

一張中了的mark 6 值多少, 大家有數計. 有什麼成績可以去那裹

但校内成績不是一定和公開試一樣, 不然政府高人不會推校本去平衡一下
其中變數太多

況且各校情度不一, 用校内成績參考便可, 對很多中上的學生(如 elbar / ACchan59 估他們的list 就是EMI school, band 1a-1c 成績可有很大距离) 是可有吸引力, 他們在香港可能入Law ....etc 機會不大

現在是用一張可能中的mark 6 去cash 而且讀少一年

不能說不吸引, 況且若然成事則其他生意人也會仿効

不能不考慮特别是中游學生

作者: abcd0001 時間: 12-5-27 11:35

IDP was established by Australian universities in 1969 and has 40 years' experience in international higher education.

Half of IDP's equity is owned by 38 Australian universities through their holding company, IDP Education Australia Ltd. The other half is owned by SEEK Ltd, Australia's leading online employment and training company.

IDP is owned by universities, not private agent, to promote their courses

http://www.hongkong.idp.com/about_us.aspx

There is no point for them to tell such lies or play the dirty tricks.

Anyway, it seems they enroll now. So if it is a joke, we will find it in 2 months

At first, I think it plan to have the scheme in the coming year so the P6 parent should plan for it, but now it becomes the concern of current HKDSE student.

If anybody can help me or advice how to relocate the topic to oversea or senior secondary section.

作者: khmama 時間: 12-5-27 11:48

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我有親戚幾年前考完會考去ANU讀foundation + 3years degree course, 今年畢業, 但佢既degree course唔係honour degree, 如果要讀Master未必有大學收,亦可能要讀多兩年先honour到. 唔知係佢選修既科目問題定係澳洲既學制係咁, 冇研究過. 另外有朋友囝囝又係中五畢業去澳洲讀咗一年foundation, 但係因為唔夠十八歲, 所以都hea咗半年先入得U. 所以七月入學而唔夠十八歲未知合唔合資格.

作者: abcd0001 時間: 12-5-27 12:19

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Khmama 你好,

你説的情况我也聽説過, 但我知道是有些course 的問題如修hon degree 是修 extra credit not by exam result, so 120 credit pass, 150 credit Hon., 這個要在申請時弄清楚我也答不上不過不應是2 years for Honor.....unless combine degree or double degree 那些

至於不足18歲, 那我沒想過, 可能是海外生監謢人的问題

澳洲是行普及 and 精英制的, 小學有OC class for outstanding student ,中學有selected school all selected by public exam., others can go to local school only. Everyone has the opportunity to learn.

有跳班制 depend on your ability. so I haven't think about such questions, if you can arrange such 監謢人 eg. family member or by college ie go for diploma pathway may solve the problem.... I guess

作者: khmama 時間: 12-5-27 13:20

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我相信係監護人問題, 如果有媽咪去陪讀, 應該冇問題, 但我朋友係working mummy, 所以佢囝囝要等到二月先可以入學. 我見ANU份document有個remark, 假設讀完HKDSE應該夠十八歲, 所以提醒下o的家長.

作者: abcd0001 時間: 12-5-29 00:23

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I have run through some of the universities web to check the question of Honor degree. It seems that Australia takes the Honor year program ie degree program is 3 years + 1 Honor year = 4 years for Honor degree.

For those 3 year programs, they are also fully accredited by professional bodies eg accounting or engineering. The Honor year is research methods and specialised subjects which is good for academic research and further studies. This is what I read in their web sites.

However, it is not a must requirement for further study ( should be preference ), I check Sydney U and ANU both only requirement a degree ( not Honor ) for applying Master courses ( either engineering or business ) but it requires a good GPA which is quite reasonable ( 3.0 out of 4 scale ). So the key point is the GPA.

ANU (Master of Business Administration) http://studyat.anu.edu.au/programs/7810XMBA;overview.html

Academic requirements - a Bachelor degree in any discipline from a recognised university. The relative ranking and/or reputation of the university may be taken into consideration. Applicants completing an Australian degree program must have achieved a minimum grade average of 65% in their undergraduate studies. Students completing degree studies outside Australia will need to meet a similar minimum grade requirement, however due to variations in grading scales the specific requirements vary between countries. As an indication, examples of grades required include a GPA of 3.0 on a 4.0 scale or Upper Second Class Honours degree

However, it should be clarifed that 3 years for pass degree and an additional Honor year which is same for 4 years HKDSE.

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