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作者: babybo 時間: 12-4-5 18:54 標題: Which school will you choose?

Winchester College
Harrow School
Eton College
Dulwich College

作者: noel2010 時間: 12-4-7 21:14

If you are not consider school fee, Dulwich College is better.

作者: babybo 時間: 12-4-8 20:47

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Can you tell me more about Dulwich's school life? It seems that not so many parents talk about it. I only know that it is a very high rank school in the uk.

作者: webeheld 時間: 12-4-8 22:52

Of course NOT! Dulwich is the least recognised and prestigious among these four! I would rank in this way: Eton > Winchester > Harrow > Dulwich.

作者: webeheld 時間: 12-4-9 23:15

I can only say, Dulwich (and Harrow) are businesses, but Eton and Winchester are really solid names of what a SCHOOL is. If you are interested in sending your son to Dulwich, be prepared for him returning home to tell you how much fun he has had in the school Mahjong Club and expect no change in his communication in Cantonese with you since he would just continue to speak and live in the mindset of a Hong Kong environment everyday there.

作者: babybo 時間: 12-4-10 17:50

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It's really shocking to hear a prestigious school offering such a kind of learning environment for its students! Yes, I'm planning to send my son to England and would like to collect more info. I understand they are all esteemed school that there are no easy entries so earlier preparation is needed.

作者: webeheld 時間: 12-4-10 19:28

babybo 發表於 12-4-10 17:50
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It's really shocking to hear a prestigious school offering such a kind of lear ...

You can take note on the rankings of schools: they do make a quite significant difference.Based on the latest A-Level results, the schools that you have listed above have the following ranks:

WinColl (7)
Harrow (39)
Eton (13)
Dulwich (57)

However, I must be frank here that it is no easy task to get in these prestigious schools...it is amazing how many people can afford to pay tens of thousands a month to send their children overseas. Some schools also only take one student from Hong Kong each year...that was my case in one application when I lost my place to a DGS top-achieving girl.

作者: babybo 時間: 12-4-10 20:38

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Thanks for your info. Just now I visited the website of Dulwich and discovered that the school has really been opening branches in a lot of big cities, including shanghai, Beijing and suzhou ...

作者: Isaacmommy 時間: 12-4-10 21:13

I would go for Eton or Winchester. Both are traditional elite schools. Their students have a good chance of entering the best universities like Oxford and Cambridge. A friend of mind went to Winchester. She is a shy and quiet girl, but she go admitted into Oxford University.

作者: webeheld 時間: 12-4-10 22:59

However, getting into Eton is just not easy...to get into Eton is just as difficult as to get into Harvard in fact. Combining the rumours and legends with its ambiguous listed requirements, one would have the idea that getting into Eton is no ordinary thing.

作者: nintendo 時間: 12-4-11 10:51

I know someone who is now with Eton. The boy was a very average kid, Not particularly good at sports or music either. The only thing I can think of that got him into Eton was probably his (family's) strong connections with mainland officials.

作者: babybo 時間: 12-4-11 11:45

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Good to hear more about Eton. Does anyone have info about other schools of the top notch in the UK. What I have put down probably are all 'dream schools' for Hong Kong kids!

作者: peter_pan 時間: 12-4-11 12:22

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You must be mistaken.
Your shy & quiet girl must have attended St Swithun's which is a girls school in Winchester, rather than Winchester College which is a boy school.

作者: peter_pan 時間: 12-4-11 12:27

Babybo, if you are looking for top boys school, you should also consider Westminster, which has the highest Oxbridge success rate (>50% every year) of all the schools in the UK!

作者: babybo 時間: 12-4-11 18:33

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I don't know if I am really a paranoid parent who wants to send away my boy after knowing the recent changes I saw in many primary schools. P.4 and P.5 parents' topic now is when to send their kids away. The way they 'fought' a place for their kids in a local reputable school a few years ago can still be vividly recalled. Today they are worrying about the whereabouts of their kids overseas' studies. Do all of you think parents in Hong Kong are really miserable?

作者: Isaacmommy 時間: 12-4-11 21:11

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Sorry, got mixed up. The school my friend went to was Westminster School. She entered at 6th form.

作者: webeheld 時間: 12-4-11 22:58

peter_pan 發表於 12-4-11 12:27
Babybo, if you are looking for top boys school, you should also consider Westminster, which has the ...

Sadly, they only accept one Hong Kong student per year and the student must comply with their strict age requirement, which makes getting in almost impossible. By age requirement, it is as follows:

Child in Hong Kong can only apply to attend Sixth Form at Westminster after completing Form Four in HK.
No exceptions for 'big' kids (Those born in the year before from 1st Sept to 31st Dec)

There is no scholarship or bursary - full fee must be paid. No academic agents in Hong Kong are authorized to apply to the school on behalf of yourself that means you must apply individually. The place for the Hong Kong student went to a DGS girl. I had to fly over (it is compulsory for overseas students to fly over for interview if they pass the written examinations) for a whole day of long interviews for each subject that I wanted to do for my A-Levels but still, even though I got full marks in the Math entrance exam paper, I couldn't get in

haha

作者: Tommy 時間: 12-4-11 23:29

webeheld 發表於 12-4-11 22:58
Sadly, they only accept one Hong Kong student per year and the student must comply with their strict age requirement, which makes getting in almost impossible. By age requirement, it is as follows:

Child in Hong Kong can only apply to attend Sixth Form at Westminster after completing Form Four in HK.
No exceptions for 'big' kids (Those born in the year before from 1st Sept to 31st Dec)

Are there any real disadvantages for being a "big kid"? or for the school enrolling "big kids"?

If the "big kids" sit for GCSE and A Level only once, will they be penalized for being "big" when applying for a university place?

作者: webeheld 時間: 12-4-12 00:39

Tommy 發表於 12-4-11 23:29
Are there any real disadvantages for being a "big kid"? or for the school enrolling "big kids"?

I ...

Oh, of coz not since some people go through UCAS way past their twenties anyway and the chance is not diminished because of age. I was only talking about the specific school which does not accept 'big child' and of course 'repeaters' very strictly. While most of the students in HK go for Sixth Form in UK after their F5 is completed, this is not allowed for that school since they require students to go after F4 to meet the strict imposed age requirement.

作者: caa 時間: 12-4-12 07:59

webeheld 發表於 12-4-12 00:39
Oh, of coz not since some people go through UCAS way past their twenties anyway and the chance is no ...

Except Westminster do you know of other good schools also imposing strict age requirement? Thanks!

作者: webeheld 時間: 12-4-12 11:09

caa 發表於 12-4-12 07:59
Except Westminster do you know of other good schools also imposing strict age requirement? Thanks!

Eton, Winchester among the aforementioned.
Also some other famous schools such as Sevenoaks.

作者: caa 時間: 12-4-12 13:23

webeheld 發表於 12-4-12 11:09
Eton, Winchester among the aforementioned.
Also some other famous schools such as Sevenoaks.

How about any girls' schools to your knowledge? Does the age requirement mean that only candidates under 17, or not reaching 17 by 1 September, will be considered? Thanks!

作者: webeheld 時間: 12-4-12 18:20

caa 發表於 12-4-12 13:23
How about any girls' schools to your knowledge? Does the age requirement mean that only candidates u ...

Again, Westminster is very strict on this no matter for boys or girls.Sevenoaks is also a co-ed school.
I do not have complete information for girls' schools/co-ed schools but I would suppose that the best girls' boarding schools, namely those of the same level with Westminster, e.g. Wycombe Abbey, would be rather strict on entrance age requirements as well.

作者: babybo 時間: 12-4-12 22:20

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Really thanks for this platform on which we all gain a lot of insight about schools in England. Webeheld, you are just great. What a resourceful advisor! Thanks a lot! As I mentioned earlier, I did try to browse the websites of the aforementioned schools. With information on this forum, I guess that Winchester is perhaps the most suitable school for my son. I have learnt that chances would be higher if we parents could personally take them to a school open day. With my fingers crossed, I hope the school will give my son a place next year.

作者: webeheld 時間: 12-4-13 01:00

babybo 發表於 12-4-12 22:20
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Really thanks for this platform on which we all gain a lot of insight about sc ...

You are welcome :)
Winchester is a great school, but I did not apply for so since (and you would probably like to bear in mind that) they do not do the A-Levels but the Cambridge Pre-U. Of course it is not a big problem for Hong Kong students since they are most likely to excel in any curriculum (especially for those that can get in WinColl!) but you may actually like to consider that Cambridge Pre-U *may* have a slightly lower chance on Non-JUPAS admission if your son/you plan to have your child back in HK for University studies.

Fee-wise, they are alright. Location - excellent. In fact, of the four schools you mentioned, Winchester is the farthest and the only non-connected-to-London school, which some parents may like. The town of Winchester is 'based' on this school, meaning that the school is the key element of the town! Incredible environment with great weather too. I really seldom hear of my peers or my seniors talking bad about WinColl, so I believe they are what a great boarding school should be.

作者: babybo 時間: 12-4-13 11:34

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Thanks again for your 'two cents' as they are frankly useful! This is perhaps the first time that I heard people share the level of recognition of the two exams you mentioned. They help a lot in terms of where we should go for.

作者: 4eyesDad 時間: 12-4-13 11:54

webeheld 發表於 12-4-13 01:00
You are welcome :)
Winchester is a great school, but I did not apply for so since (and you would pr ...

As you rightly pointed out, all HK students who can study at Winchester should do well in any exam., whether it is Cambridge Pre-U or A-Levels. I would go further to say that all students should do well in life in general.

Naturally, a significant percentage of their students enter Oxbridge every year. It will be a pity if top HK students do not try Winchester for fear of some technical disadvantage in returning to HK for university study. Isn't the point of going to Winchester is to enter Oxbridge or other top oversea universities anyway?

作者: babybo 時間: 12-4-14 12:47

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Can't agree with you more! Deep down I have thought about my son getting into Oxbridge one day. But just don't want to express it too explicitly...

作者: ninmum 時間: 12-4-17 08:15

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Dear webeheld,

我正為囝囝找UK boarding school, 請問以下2間school 那間好d??囝囝今年F4, 打算去UK讀F6 and then考GCE-AL.

(1) Brighton College
(2) Caterham School

thanks a lot!

作者: webeheld 時間: 12-4-17 19:56

ninmum 發表於 12-4-17 08:15
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Dear webeheld,

Hi there. Which school is your boy attending in Hong Kong now? I would suggest that students from certain schools fit in at certain schools in the UK perfectly well, so there may be some schools that you could target especially.Anyway, Brighton College (46) and Caterham School (96) (2011 ranks in brackets) are similar co-ed schools that have quite an amount of Asian population, in case you mind. I would say both have been improving so consistently and drastically these years that I am confident that they would flourish into a higher level in the years to come. However both schools are agent-based schools so the commercial factor is here but not extensive nor obtrusive. If you think the environment and style of these two schools suit your child well, do not hesitate to apply.

作者: ninmum 時間: 12-4-18 08:04

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thanks webeheld!

囝囝在band 1 英中, 成績中上.
其實我並不太了解此2間學校, 只因有同學仔在讀囝囝話想試呢2間. 請問可否建議些ranking高d 學校比我參考? 囝囝想去d比較多本地人學校. thanks!

作者: CPU1995 時間: 12-4-20 10:44 標題: 回覆：ninmum 的帖子

How about the choice between Tonbridge vs Reading？

作者: webeheld 時間: 12-4-22 15:29

CPU1995 發表於 12-4-20 10:44
How about the choice between Tonbridge vs Reading？

No need to choose. Tonbridge (rank 9) wins all with 25% Oxbridge admission rate.

作者: CPU1995 時間: 12-4-22 16:38 標題: 引用：Quote:CPU1995+發表於+12-4-20+10:44+How+a

原帖由 webeheld 於 12-04-22 發表
No need to choose. Tonbridge (rank 9) wins all with 25% Oxbridge admission rate.

Tonbridge needs to pay over 31,000 pounds per year. Reading needs to pay only for 9,585 pound per year and the chance to claim local rate stands higher for U。

作者: webeheld 時間: 12-4-22 16:49

CPU1995 發表於 12-4-22 16:38
Tonbridge needs to pay over 31,000 pounds per year. Reading needs to pay only for 9,585 pound per y ...

Tonbridge is a famous school. By famous, I mean that it is a reputable brand with a historically tremendous portfolio of alumni and achievements. Putting a state school in comparison with an elite independent school is simply not an appropriate case. Also, in order to pay local students' fee at university (which has tripled since the Tories took over) the student has to be living in the UK for the past three years with education not as the main purpose, therefore even if your child holds a full BN passport, he/she and other HK students alike will still not be eligible for local student fees payment.

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-4-22 17:38

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Sorry to know the updated local student fee arrangement.
You raise a fair comparison of different schools in UK.

作者: Tommy 時間: 12-4-22 21:27

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webeheld,

After the triple increase, what is the difference between local student's fee and overseas studdnet's fee? I heard that local students do not need to pay upfront. Is it applied to all local students or only for those who meet certain criteria?

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