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作者: minirat 時間: 12-4-2 10:41 標題: Montessori Playgroup - Best Concept or Bambino?
I am very interested to enrol my boy in a Montessori school. Among the many Montessori schools, I have read many positive feedbacks about Best Concept, especially an ex-teacher by the name of Ellen, who has actually left the school and joined Bambino. I would like to know the feedbacks from parents who have sent their kids to either BC or Bambino or both. I am too lazy to type in Cantonese, but I welcome any feedbacks in English or Cantonese. Thanks in advance!
作者: retriever 時間: 12-4-3 10:31
as you should have read the forums... all good cmt on BC. my son is taking the course in BC, very nice teacher!
i would like to highlight the following pts for your to consider
1. whether your kid's personality would suit the monte training? what do u expect from monte training?
2. your living location. cuz monte is kind of a slow training... in BC the kids have to take either 3 days or 5 days a wk. if you are living remote from the center, your kid has to travel long, and it is kind of a stress on your kid and the care taker. if your kid feel tired, he/she would not get too much from the training. besides, if the course time schedule has conflicted with your kid's sleeping pattern, he/she may perform even worser in the center. we are going to drop from BC cuz of the long travel and time management issues.
so, apart from the quality of the center, you should consider to pick the center which should cause much less hassle to your living. as i said monte is kind of slow training, you may not see too much improvement after 3 or even 6 months of training, it would be very difficult for you not to give up and keep asking yourself, am i doing the right things for my kid??!!
作者: minirat 時間: 12-4-3 17:13
retriever 發表於 12-4-3 10:31 
as you should have read the forums... all good cmt on BC. my son is taking the course in BC, very ni ...
Hi, thanks for your comments!
I'm very attracted to the Montessori teaching, and am hoping that it will train up my boy's independence and discipline. I think these are extremely important at this age, more than academic. I don't really look forward to him learning any talents from a playgroup. I just hope he can enjoy himself in the classes while learning the basic values.
Honestly I still have no idea whether my son's character suits the Montessori type of teaching, coz he is only 9 months old now. However I'm quite sure that in time to come, he will be spoilted by his grandparents, coz they just cannot bear to leave him crying, and will do anything for him, just for the sake of keeping him happy. This simply worries me. Apparently he is spending more time with his caretaker grandparents than me, coz I am a working mother and probably not in a good position to train up my boy, not to mention my lack of knowledge to train or even play with a toddler.
In terms of location, I think we are alright, coz we are at Hung Hom which is near to both TST and Kowloon Tong. Which campus is your son attending? Any idea which one is better?
I understand where you are coming from, completely. Nevertheless it is difficult for me to judge now, coz we have yet to start. I guess I just got to trust my guts feeling when the time comes.
作者: Karlie 時間: 12-4-3 17:37
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作者: retriever 時間: 12-4-3 18:03
本帖最後由 retriever 於 12-4-3 18:09 編輯
as far as i know BC will only accept toddles who have reached 18 months. so, for the time being you could just submit your application for both BC and Bambino and wait. ref BK/EK most mum would choose the center at KLT becuz the famous Ms. Ellen was there. However, she had left for Bambino. The location of the KLT center is quite tricky, so, my son is attending the center in TST, about 10 min walk from MTR station. Bear in mind that Ms. Ellen though she is good, she could not teach every classes in Bambino. you better pay a visit to both BC and Bambino to find out which one is better.
my son did learn a nos of self care skills from BC, for examples, wearing a trouser, wiping a table, pouring water, etc. though he knows the skills he may not be willing to do it, so the care taker must remind him or give him a little bit pressure. grandparents would not provide much help in this regard.
sometimes the self care skills would cause u some hassles, like pouring water when dining with you in a restaurant. cuz he has the ability he would insist to do it or cry out. the most of all, the teaching style of monte is completely diff from that of traditional approach. the kids are free to choose which piece of work they like to do. we found my boy often hanging around the classroom in particular when he was tired and not in good mood, and for quite a while the teacher would not force him to do anything. my boy would run around at circle time or left the table and sat in the reading corner at snack time. the kids are given freedom, but some active boy would abuse it.
my boy started PN since mar. we and the teacher did feel very happy for him as he did not cry any days in the probation period (1hr a day for 5 days and then 2 hrs a day for another 5 days). the teacher put him straightly to normal schedule, that is 3 hrs a day. then he cried everyday. we wondered what had happened. then we realized he might not be happy to follow the class routines. in probation period the first hr of class was just kind of free play!
in short, for active boys monte training would give them before they have learned self disciplines, hence it would cause some hassles to the daily life and adaptation issues in PN or K1 times. you may need to enforce the disciplines thro home caring.
作者: retriever 時間: 12-4-4 00:17
Karlie 發表於 12-4-3 17:37
我個女上bc 上左三個月, 最近我幫佢轉左另外一間非monte school, 原因唔係話bc 唔好, 係我覺得我個女唔岩呢 ...
the beauty of monte training is to train up the kids to focus and work independently... it is not to train social skill. however, as long as there is other kids around your boy / gal should be able to learn how to interact with others, like taking turns, ask b4 act, etc.
作者: minirat 時間: 12-4-10 11:15
Karlie 發表於 12-4-3 17:39
另外, 我都上過bambino trial class, 感覺上其中一個miss 比較experience (唔知佢係咪就係ms. ellen), 但係 ...
好多謝你的comments！
我好同意Montessori教學work唔work都好似乎個小朋友的性格
其實我都未知我的仔仔適唔適合，因為他得9個月大，所以想俾他試下，再決定繼唔繼續俾他讀montessori playgroup
我聽講ms Ellen系教細班，現在唔知有無改動
其實我兩間都apply左
應該會系Bambino試堂先，因為14個月大就可以開始上堂（前提系BB要識行）
如果都滿意，應該會繼續
BC好似無得試堂，不過好評如潮，我都想試下，再決定留系邊間
我想問，你個女系幾歲開始上Montessori？
同埋我聽講BC系唔俾家長陪同上堂，甘你個女有無喊？
我唸緊，如果BB一識行就train他separation，好似好殘忍，我驚我狠唔到心
作者: minirat 時間: 12-4-10 11:43
retriever 發表於 12-4-4 00:17
i lost what i have typed.. in short the teacher should have been allowed to determine how much group ...
I must say, you have given me very good tips, many thanks!
Honestly, i learnt and read about Montessori from websites and forums, which might have deviations with actual experiences like what you and your boy had went through.
Apparently like i mentioned, my boy is only 9 months old now and it's difficult to tell his character and whether he suits the Montessori style of teaching, but I observed that he is a very active baby, basically NON STOP! And stubborn! His caretaker grandparents dote on him so much that they will prepare everything nicely for him and cannot bear to let him cry a bit. The fact that he interacts with them more than a working mum like me, I'm so worried that he might become so dependent and self centred in time to come. So when i read about Montessori, i thought this is exactly what i want for him, like u mentioned, to focus and work independently.
It never comes across my mind about social skills, which is something I hope he can acquire as well, coz he is the only child in the family and having to learn to share and interact with others is important. So thanks for reminding me.
So your boy is not attending a Montessori PN now, I guess? If given another chance, would you send him to a Montessori playgroup again?
作者: retriever 時間: 12-4-10 16:42
本帖最後由 retriever 於 12-4-10 16:50 編輯
my boy is attending boxhill... concerning your last question, i guess you are actually asking whether monte training is worthy to try... well, it is really hinged on what options you are having.. if not monte, what else? and is it better?
my boss and i still buy in the concept of monte training.. we are still thinking if we should send my boy to casa when he has reached 3. but, you know there is a nos of factor to drop monte before you could see any improvement by your kid. we know we will not go for the IS route (will you?), so, monte will certainly be a temp arrangement only. So, when all circumstance (living location, time, cost, etc.)allow an effective monte training, my boy may have reached an age when he has to focus on lifting up his ability for P1 admissions. one interesting thin i have noted from BC and forums is that monte training is expensive. for those parents who are willing to pay this premium, they would have higher expectations/requirements for primary education as well. the parents who are not targeting IS would at some pt of time face the dilemma. in BC, most of the parents with regrets have to drop monte when their kids go PN or K1.
For effective monte training, you better have matching home care arrangement. in short, your kid's caretaker should be better with monte concept in mind, or you better keep your kid away from any negative influence 
... you know that kids excel in behaving differently in school or at home.
if your focus is to train up your kid to work independently, one of the cheap options is the nursing or child care centre run by HKPCS or Salutatory Army, both would offer whole day training for 2yr old or up, the latter even claimed themselves adopting monte approach (so-called). but their graduates would not be academically competitive as those from private kgs.
if you go for BC, it is known that 5 days class is more effective than 3 days but of course more stress on your kid and caretaker.
作者: retriever 時間: 12-4-10 16:49
本帖最後由 retriever 於 12-4-10 16:51 編輯
one more note. my boy did acquire certain self care skills. but it needs a matching home care arrangement (people, setup, etc.) so that your kid is willing to apply the skill effectively and to work independently.
作者: minirat 時間: 12-4-11 09:41
retriever 發表於 12-4-10 16:42
my boy is attending boxhill... concerning your last question, i guess you are actually asking whethe ...
Haaa! Good point about practising Montessori training in school as well as at home. Well I will try my best to educate and train the grandparents, or even myself and my hubby...
I think we will start with 3 days first and will escalate to 5 days if necessary.
Btw do you think it is too early to train a 14 months old for separation?
作者: vivianlym 時間: 12-4-12 13:56
我個女本來都有排緊報左BC嘅, 後來知道MS ELLEN過左去BAMBINO....禁就去左 BAMBINO度返啦....直到宜加.....另外中段BC都有位, 我都冇轉過去啦. 因我個女係BAMBINO返得好開心同埋個度D MISS好有愛心. 其實除左MS ELLEN好有經驗同好好外, 仲有MS RONNIE(主要教大仔)都好有經驗同睇得出佢好有HEART, 我個女仲好鍾意同跟佢, 有次禁啱我出左去我個女柯左便便, 佢仲幫我個女換片TIM....最重要係我覺得BAMBINO暫時未係有好多小朋友一齊上堂, E加可以小班教學同埋 D MS 可專注TAKE CARE D小朋友, 因為D小朋友始終比較細, 有時比較難控制.
作者: minirat 時間: 12-4-12 15:46
vivianlym 發表於 12-4-12 13:56
我個女本來都有排緊報左BC嘅, 後來知道MS ELLEN過左去BAMBINO....禁就去左 BAMBINO度返啦....直到宜加..... ...
聽你甘講都好似好好，我都放心d
老師有heart最緊要
你個女幾歲開始上Bambino， 同埋上左幾長時間？
聽講BC唔俾家長陪同上堂，不過他們只收18個月大以上
唔知如果14個月大上Bambino系唔系都唔俾家長陪同
我好驚頭幾日我狠唔到心由他喊
雖然我都好想train他獨立d
14個月大就train他separation好似早左d
作者: retriever 時間: 12-4-16 11:11
minirat 發表於 12-4-11 09:41
I see. So I guess you were saying that IMS is the only route to Montessori eventually, right? Hone ...
IMS is the only monte school in hk providing secondary education. ICMS is another option if you prefer monte in elementary level. i had visited ICMS, they have many casa graduates going to IS and they said there was not any bridging problem at all. have you checked if your nationality would be given preference when applying SIS?cuz a nos of parents prefer chinese lang education, SIS is hot among IS.
about separation, i would say, for almost all kinds of toddler training, the earlier the better except toilet training, haha... we had come across the idea of nursing my boy in a BB center run by HKPCS. apart from the caring and professionalism of the supervisor and teachers, we were amazed by the level of independence that a 18 month kid could attain. they could feed themselves neatly, line up for toilet and played with other kids harmonically. most of the kids had been there since they reached 1 month or less than six months. of course most of the bb stayed there becuz their parents could not find a better caretaker. however, according to the supervisor a certain nos of parents deliberately to nurse bb there for independence training even some of them had maids and senior to take care the kids.
i am not saying you should nurse your bb in the center. the earlier you train your kid to separate from you, the less vigorous response you would see.
作者: minirat 時間: 12-4-16 15:20
本帖最後由 minirat 於 12-4-16 15:21 編輯
retriever 發表於 12-4-16 11:11
just curious, mind to tell if your hubby is a HKger?
IMS is the only monte school in hk providing s ...
Of coz not! Yes, my hubby is a HKger. We have thought of relocating back to S'pore for my boy's education, but easier to say than do. My hubby's family, friends, career, everything are in HK. So it's really complicated to relocate the whole family. Apparently education in S'pore is a lot simpler for me, coz I'm familiar with the system. So we are still keeping this option open. Personally I think an average English school is good enough to provide a good foundation for a child. And whatever he can excel his intelligence or fare well in his studies, depends on various factors, but eventually it's still down to the genes i guess.
Yes, I just realised SIS is hot among IS, and it's such a headache. I really dislike the idea of making my boy goes through the competitions and interviews at such young age. To me, this is completely unnecessary.
The reason why I did not shortlist ICMS is location, coz we are at Hung Hom. If we are talking about weekday classes, very likely it'll be my inlaws bringing my boy to school. So I need to make sure that it's the most convenient arrangement for them.
And yes, I have heard positive feedbacks from parents who sent their children to childcare centres as early as mother resumed work after maternity leave. Chinese saying, 三歲定八十, I don't deny even babies have their own character right at birth, but I always believe in brainwashing and that majority of the kids can be taught and put right at young age.
I'm really glad that u said that, really! I don't want to feel like a ruthless mummy to start training my child at this early age. Not until I become a mother myself, I never understand how difficult it is to be hard hearted towards my own child. I am learning too. In fact, I'm planning to wean him in less than 3 months' time and this is going to be my first challenge. If we can do this, the separation training might be easier, especially for me.
作者: Chloe2011 時間: 12-4-17 10:23 標題: 回覆：minirat 的帖子
你所提的學校係邊到，我一啲都唔識，請提供意見點搵playgroup
作者: vivianlym 時間: 12-4-17 14:11
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我個女大約17個月左右開始係Bambino上PG, 直到宜加我個女都返左差唔多7個月啦. 而以我所知Bambino係比細b家長陪上堂的, 所以你可以去下試堂睇下啱唔啱你…..而大B (18M以上)除左試堂時基本上宜加已開始要做SEPARATION , 就算我個女返左禁耐早一兩個月做SEPARATION時都要適應左一排先唔喊….初頭誇張到係樓下已經喊定但又喊住比MS RONNIE抱住入課室,不過這個係必經階段, 所以我都好忍心由得佢喊…但係放學時佢又好開心, 問佢鍾唔鍾意返學, 佢又話鍾意, 真係比佢激死.
PS: Bambino 大B班初時係比家長陪上堂, 但近2-3個月左右開始已經唔比家長陪上堂.
作者: minirat 時間: 12-4-17 16:40
vivianlym 發表於 12-4-17 14:11
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我個女大約17個月左右開始係Bambino上PG, 直到宜加我個女都返左差唔多7個月啦. 而以 ...
明白了
聽落都ok
我都覺得俾他熟悉環境後再train separation好似好d
你個女好得意
不過小朋友就系甘
情緒變化勁快
不過你見到她開心放學都應該會安心晒
有時我BB喊會用好可憐的眼神望住我，好似我出賣他甘，好驚。。
作者: minirat 時間: 12-4-17 16:43
Chloe2011 發表於 12-4-17 10:23
你所提的學校係邊到，我一啲都唔識，請提供意見點搵playgroup
我地討論緊的都系以Montessori教學的playgroup
你可以上網睇下
你BB現在幾大？
你想他返playgroup的目的系咩？
作者: mrsairkidd 時間: 12-4-24 13:16
唔好意思, 想問下你地講既bambino 即係邊間?? 可唔可以pm 個網址我?? 我只係揾到bambini republic 咋!
作者: kwansara 時間: 12-4-24 13:46
http://www.bmplaygroup.com/
作者: retriever 時間: 12-4-27 10:56
minirat 發表於 12-4-16 15:20
Of coz not! Yes, my hubby is a HKger. We have thought of relocating back to S'pore for my boy's e ...
my boy adapted quite ok for the first few days in BC, but then after a long weekend or holiday, he was a bit reluctant to separate from his mum. i guess the key points is more than his panic in separation. if a toddler feels much better at home than in the school or training center, why bother he would like to go to places making him less pleasure? nowadays most ppl would have only one child. we are too often so kind to our kids. they do not need to share their toys, to take turns nor follow any routine at home. Recently i declared some of the toy cars belong to daddy. I want my boy to understand not everything at home belong to him. he is required to ask before act, and we will not always go with his willing. He also needs to take turns and wait even at home.
作者: elmostoney 時間: 12-4-30 11:16
本帖最後由 elmostoney 於 12-4-30 11:16 編輯
我想回應一下之前一位媽媽post montessori幫唔到內向小朋友呢個問題. 我唔係專家, 所以都唔敢話自己立場對與否, 只可用我自己個仔做example.
我個仔係BC返左就來3年, 之前做toddler仔時都係Ms Ellen教, 佢冇返過其他幼稚園, 一直都係返montessori, 九月我地會轉去IMS, 因為我為佢入IMS小學準備. 可能因為有個家姐, 所以佢不嬲都比較怕羞, 因為唔洗同人玩都得, 幾時都有家姐. 但係呢半年, 佢係班上變左大仔, 多左機會照顧細仔, 個人自信心大左, 冇以前咁怕羞. 其實中段我轉過佢去另一間所謂montessori學校讀左兩個幾月, 佢係開朗左d, 但係個人秩序感同脾氣都差左, 於是我即刻返返去bc. 所以我覺得小朋友外向與否, 同信心有關, 而呢樣野係唔可以急, 唔係話比佢人多熱鬧, 團體多d就一定改善到, 又或呢樣好左, 另一樣就會差左. 我相信montessori, 但係要比時間先睇到效果, 唔三五個月就得. 不竟一個人成長都需時.
作者: elmostoney 時間: 12-4-30 11:25
我個仔四歲四個月, 農曆年時, 老師話佢係學校削蘋果, 老師鼓勵佢問其他小朋友食唔食, 再分出去 (全程都係佢自己做). 由於佢個班比佢細嘅小朋友都有幾個, 老師亦鼓勵佢幫/教細小朋友, 同同齡小朋友, 佢地會一齊做工作. 想參加其他小朋友嘅工作, 佢一定要問人比唔比, 其實呢D都係教佢地互動同禮貌, 我覺得好好. 只係大仔班人數太少, 再加上返學小朋友唔定, 冇物人返五日, 所以可以做朋友嘅選擇唔多.
作者: kwansara 時間: 12-4-30 15:19
elmostoney 多謝分享, 另想問吓你嘅見解. 你認為幼稚園讀montessori, 升上傳統小學是否令小朋友好難適應 ?
作者: retriever 時間: 12-4-30 16:27
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請問在bc是哪位老師?
作者: elmostoney 時間: 12-5-2 10:11
我個仔而家跟ms nina, 之前跟過宥語. 細仔班時, 就跟ms ellen同ms emily, 佢剛升上大仔班冇耐, ms ellen就走左.
kwansara, 我唔敢講montessori轉傳統學校會點, 我個大女本身好outgoing, 所以佢讀物野system, 基本上都ok (至於學習程度就因人而異). 我諗視乎小朋友本身adaptibility. 我上網睇過, 多數情況下, 小朋友適應能力都好強, 但每個人要幾多時間就好難講.
作者: m3cheng 時間: 12-5-2 13:45 標題: 回覆：Montessori Playgroup - Best Concept or Bambino?
請問有冇讀過infinity children？想知道三間之中邊間好D?
作者: kwansara 時間: 12-5-2 14:39
其實我囝囝依家跟緊Ms Ellen, 而我現在正諗緊升學問題, K1應該讀montessori or 一般傳統幼稚園 ??
作者: minirat 時間: 12-5-2 16:41
retriever 發表於 12-4-27 10:56
the most important thing is your spouse's support, and you should be faithful in what you believe. t ...
i share the same sentiments. I foresee it will be a tedious process for us. As you have mentioned, it is difficult not to give him the best of everything since he is the only child in the family. We need to be firm and consistent. I hope we are able to achieve that when the time comes. It is never easy, I know.
作者: minirat 時間: 12-5-2 16:43
elmostoney 發表於 12-4-30 11:16
我想回應一下之前一位媽媽post montessori幫唔到內向小朋友呢個問題. 我唔係專家, 所以都唔敢話自己立場對 ...
I want to ask both retriever and elmostoney, what makes you a fan of Montessori? Like we have been discussing, Montessori is a really slow process and it might take years to see results.
作者: retriever 時間: 12-5-4 16:31
minirat 發表於 12-5-2 16:43
I want to ask both retriever and elmostoney, what makes you a fan of Montessori? Like we have been ...
for short term, cuz mine is a boy.. there are not many options of "thro train" school for boys, and the most famous one is Pui Ching. if you read the postings in this forum, the candidates will be interviewed alone without the accompany of their parents.. most of the kids will cry out in the interview... so, if a kid could keep not crying in the interview, he/she will be near BINGO!!! I thought monte could help my boy at least used to be separated from parents... haha... wishful thinking?!
作者: elmostoney 時間: 12-5-7 11:56
本帖最後由 elmostoney 於 12-5-7 12:01 編輯
minirat, I believe in montessori because:
1. training a child to be independent and focused
2. good understanding through learning by manipulatives instead of rote memorization
3. good sense of logic and strong math if the child finishes casa (6 years old)
4. learn discipline through freedom (唔係物野都係老師叫先做, 係佢明白有rules之下, 可以自由學習)
5. foster life long curiosity and love of learning
6. confidence and believe in one's choice. it is not the teacher or parent who calls the shots. I want the child to understand - learning is fun. leaning is for his/her own benefit. It's not about getting good grades.
I see a lot of u grads nowadays who are unable to make decisions or who cannot solve problems on their own since they have always lived the style of life in which the professors/parents/teachers have told them what to do. Grades come first so they don't need to understand - just need to perform well on test. Unfortunately, in the real world, this type of employees don't make much headway. Nobody puts a score on a person's career - a career is not about getting 100 points on a test.
Montessori is what I want to give my child as a foundation to his life-long journey. It goes beyond the academics of education because life is more than just about grades, about which school one comes from, about what competition he/she enters, or about the certificates one gets. I hope he has passion in life and believes in himself.
That's why if he fits in IMS, I plan to let him finish primary school there.
作者: vivianlym 時間: 12-5-11 13:17
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Hi Minirat 5月份開始小b班都開始要做separation lu....除左試堂
作者: minirat 時間: 12-5-14 18:01
retriever 發表於 12-5-4 16:31
we have long term and short term goals. a nos of parents would like monte to train their kids self c ...
retriever, my mentality is very close to yours, as in both short and long term goals, even though i'm still not 100% confident that i will be persistent enough, coz i do need supports from the family in this aspect. my son just recovered from a rare disease called kawasaki recently. it is treatable and we are lucky that he was treated on time. however he went through the painful process and is still on medication. when the kids are sick, parents especially first timers like us, really feel very helpless and heartache. suddenly i realised nothing is more important than for him to be a happy and healthy kid. of coz being happy should also come with the correct values. hence this incident does not change my initial mindset to train him to be independent and disciplined, coz i know it's for his own benefits in long term. i think no one method is perfect and fits well for everyone. as parents, we try and error and learn as we move on with our kids.
作者: minirat 時間: 12-5-14 18:05
elmostoney 發表於 12-5-7 11:56
minirat, I believe in montessori because:
1. training a child to be independent and focused
elmostoney, as i mentioned before, u really know what u want for ur kids and ur directions are so clear. ur kids are so blessed. i hope i will have a better idea and plan for my boy in time to come. like i mentioned to retriever above, i hope that any plans that come along will not be at the expense of my boy's happiness or health, which are top priorities for me at all time.
作者: minirat 時間: 12-5-14 18:07
vivianlym 發表於 12-5-11 13:17
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Hi Minirat 5月份開始小b班都開始要做separation lu....除左試堂
真系？ 知唔知點解？
我帶BB上trial class時會同老師了解下
可能真系越細越train separation會易d
作者: retriever 時間: 12-5-15 09:58
elmostoney 發表於 12-5-2 10:11
我個仔而家跟ms nina, 之前跟過宥語. 細仔班時, 就跟ms ellen同ms emily, 佢剛升上大仔班冇耐, ms ellen就 ...
作者: elmostoney 時間: 12-5-15 10:12
minirat, i have a relative whose twins had kawasaki. it's a bit scary at times, but as they grow older, they will grow out of it. They will be attending university in a year or two. time flies.
do what is comfortable for you. there is no right or wrong. I guess one needs to do what is suitable for herself and her child. With my son, I can lay down a clear path - at least for the time being. I am still struggling with my older daughter and it's not easy. But I feel blessed already. At least she is healthy. Just her learning habits are very bad.
作者: elmostoney 時間: 12-5-15 10:19
本帖最後由 elmostoney 於 12-5-15 10:21 編輯
retriever, my kids both went to KLT when 宥語老師 moved there in Nov 2010. Before then, there was only the TST centre and my daughter has been there since 2008 and my son since mid-2009. She left one year ago and returned to Taiwan for personal reasons. I wanted to move my kids back to TST, but Sarah said there were no space left (because I had to move TWO kids). They stayed until July, then we took one month off. I moved my son to ICMS (poor choice) and my daughter started Y1 in IS for full day in Sept so she couldn't go to BC anymore. When I found out what was happening at ICMS, I immediately transferred my son back to TST. That was in mid-Nov last year. So he has been with Ms. Nina for 1/2 year now and is doing quite well. He will stay at TST until school starts at IMS in Sept. Since he is doing 5 days/week, as I understand from Amy, it is noted during their weekly meeting with the owner that he is progressing quite well and one can tell the difference between children who go for 2 or 3 days and my son. Indeed, I know I am taking much risk in not placing him at a "proper" kindy. Luckily, things turn out OK and now he can go to IMS and hopefully, finish primary there.
作者: retriever 時間: 12-5-15 12:05
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sorrie. a typo in my previous post. i meant for Ms. Emily... is she the assistant to Ms. Ellen when your boy was attending TST center?
作者: minirat 時間: 12-5-15 14:40
elmostoney 發表於 12-5-15 10:12
minirat, i have a relative whose twins had kawasaki. it's a bit scary at times, but as they grow ol ...
Oh did both of them contact the disease at the same time? If so, I guess it should has something to do with inflection. Otherwise I would have guess that it runs in the genes. Doctor mentioned that the cause of this disease is still unknown, and this is extremely depressing. It must be so difficult for their parents, especially at that time, this disease was probably not so well known, and they must have went through the hard way to get treated.
You are doing your best, and this is most important. And yes, nothing is more important than being healthy. We should be grateful.
作者: minirat 時間: 12-5-15 15:05
elmostoney 發表於 12-5-15 10:19
retriever, my kids both went to KLT when 宥語老師 moved there in Nov 2010. Before then, there was o ...
So are you implying that the TST centre is better than the one at KLT?
Btw how are the school fees like at IMS?
作者: elmostoney 時間: 12-5-15 18:21
retriever, yes, ms emily was assistant to ms ellen when my son was at their toddler class.
minirat - tst centre is not necessarily better than TST. Mostly because ms nina was working with 宥語 before and they later split the two to 2 locations, so my son actually knew ms nina. 宥語 has been with BC for a much longer time and she knew my daughter better, so I opted to move both kids to KLT. After she left, there was a period when KLT BC was quite chaotic. However, I heard that now, their casa class is run by an experienced teacher from Taiwan who actually got her Montessori qualification from Italy. Only TST is much closer and my son knows Nina already, so it's better for me to send him there.
作者: elmostoney 時間: 12-5-16 10:53
minirat, ims is very expensive. Before, I never dreamed that I would one day be willing to pay their fees. You can check on their website.
However, my rational is that, by going to IMS, my son will not need to have after school tuition in English, Math and Chinese and still be able to maintain a reasonably good standard vs. in most LS, 全科補習好像很難避免. 除了 $, 時間, 對孩子的精神和體力也構成壓力.
As for my daughter, she will, inevitably need more private tuition in Chinese after school. That translates into 1. more work after school 2. less play time 3. more $$.
作者: minirat 時間: 12-5-16 10:58
elmostoney 發表於 12-5-15 18:21
retriever, yes, ms emily was assistant to ms ellen when my son was at their toddler class.
minirat ...
I see! we are at hung hom, so both TST and KLT are equally accessible to us.
i can't wait to send my boy for some discipline. he is getting a little out of hand recently. ever since he recovered from kawasaki and returned home, he has been like that. he is happy, talkative and very active most of the times but will get cranky and petty easily over minor issues.
作者: vivianlym 時間: 12-5-22 14:38
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Hi Minirat :
MS ELLEN 真係禁講喎…佢話以佢經驗越細D BB反而仲唔喊 ,因為佢地入到課室都比D玩具同教材吸引住
媽咪行開都唔知, 所以你放心啦去左試堂睇下啱唔啱先囉….同埋係BC直情冇得試堂, 一去就要做SEPARATION 添.
作者: minirat 時間: 12-5-22 14:54
elmostoney 發表於 12-5-16 10:53
minirat, ims is very expensive. Before, I never dreamed that I would one day be willing to pay thei ...
I missed your reply. I think their school fees are more expensive than SIS, which I'm also targetting. My son has yet to reach that stage, so I am not sure whether I will change my mind later. However at this moment, my mentality now is to avoid giving him too much pressure and time spent on academic apart from school hours. I hope he can seek a balance in both academic and other leisure activites. All of us have went through schooling and working in the society, and we know that academic results are just a small part of the real world. One's life is a long run and I hope my son will have a happy childhood and no regrets from us as parents.
作者: minirat 時間: 12-5-22 14:55
vivianlym 發表於 12-5-22 14:38
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Hi Minirat :
其實我都想試下separation
我BB越來越百厭
我好期待送他去“受訓”
作者: elmostoney 時間: 12-5-24 09:33
minirat, 我個仔就係冇物補習個種, 除左返5日半晝, 一星期就上三次運動堂, 我有個普通話老師, 一個星期來兩次, 不過主要係補大女, 細佬都係tag along, 上一陣. 平時我自己教佢讀下書就算, 寫字都冇物迫. 係外邊, 以佢咁年齡, 已經要狂操寫字, 我覺得冇必要, 等佢手仔肌肉再好d先. 佢而家都係寫下自己個英文名, 中文都係寫一, 二, 三呢d, 亦冇日日寫. 人生流流長, 何需急於一時? 我唔信外邊d小朋友比我個仔早一兩年寫字, 就代表會學多d野, 到時阿仔ready, 好快會catch up.
作者: vivianlym 時間: 12-5-25 15:39
minirat 發表於 12-5-22 14:55
其實我都想試下separation
我BB越來越百厭
我好期待送他去“受訓”
作者: dumbdonkey 時間: 12-5-25 23:03
Would anyone like to share info on this infamous "Ms Ellen"? What is she famous for and who is she?
What happened at ICMS? please share?
As of june 2010, IMS and Casa Dei Bamini are only the two true Montessori school in Hong Kong. Some school likes to call themselves montessori or uses montessori methods. Be aware there is no accreditation and the word "Montessori" is not trademark or registered by anyone including Maria.
It is absolutely meaningless to send a child to a Montessori school if the parents don't support montessori teaching and methods at home. This might be a reason why some parents think that it takes a long time to see results from montessori teaching methods.
Also, IMS runs till Grade 6, not secondary, as suggested by some.
作者: elmostoney 時間: 12-5-28 10:46
CDB has some problems of its own - which I have heard from a number of friends and neighbors who sent their children there. So even if it's true Montessori, I wouldn't send my kids there and I have visited their campus 3 times. It's always the same reasons, but I don't want to elaborate openly at the forum.
ICMS is not a true Montessori in that sense, e.g. their activities and work routine. Teachers' supervision over students is a bit lacking in some areas - this is personal experience.
My son was with Ms. Ellen during his entire toddler year (18 months ~ 32 months) until he moved up to casa. I believe she was accredited AMI in the US (or at least she studied for her AMI there, but I am not sure where she did her practicum). She was at Best Concept in 2007 - possibly earlier - because she was already in BC when my friend sent her child there in early 2008. She was willing to communicate with parents, patient, caring, and discussed issues about the child whether it was something that happened at home or just general questions raised by the parents. She is just one of those teachers that I really felt would go the extra mile.
If anyone has experience with Montessori from Taiwan, you know what I am talking about. Taiwan has a much longer history in Montessori education than HK - probably around 25~30 years. It is a reasonably popular form of preschool education there. Best Concept's owner has ties to Taiwan and she hires some teachers there. Talking about true Montessori, BC owner herself is accredited 0~6 and has finished AMI primary already. The school is non-profit making as the owner has her own business. She is running BC due to her own passion. Out of the last 3 years that we were in Casa, school fees have never been raised. Although they will take up to 7 children in a casa class, as of now, I see mostly 5 in my son's class (1/2 day). So it's impossible to run the school for profit! They do plan to combine their KLT and TST campus together during the summer, so it will take up to 14 kids. However, they will also put in an assistant.
作者: retriever 時間: 12-5-28 17:00
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hello, could you elaborate a bit more about the merge of TST and KLT BC? do u mean they will hire one big center and close the existing two centers?
作者: elmostoney 時間: 12-5-28 20:31
the existing TST centre is a property owned, not rented. KLT is rented. So they will close down KLT, at least for casa. The KLT casa class will move to TST. Mostly because they need a 補習牌, and it is a hassle to get one for KLT as well. I don't know what they plan to do with the toddler class at KLT. For sure, they won't add to the numbers as it is capped at 12 for toddler. They have always run casa with 14 kids until this 補習牌 issue emerged.
作者: retriever 時間: 12-5-29 11:51
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there are not many student in the casa class... at least on the days i visited the TST center... so, what you are saying is that there will be only one center in the future, rite... what is their schedule then?
and does it mean there will be some teachers going to leave? provided there would not be any expansion in the TST center...
作者: minirat 時間: 12-5-29 15:47
elmostoney 發表於 12-5-28 10:46
CDB has some problems of its own - which I have heard from a number of friends and neighbors who sen ...
I agree a teacher with heart is more important than the school background. And thanks for all the tips. I hope I will put these in good use in time to come.
作者: elmostoney 時間: 12-5-29 17:05
retriever, I don't believe they plan to let go of teachers. I have no idea about what they plan to do with toddler class as it doesn't concern me. Casa class will remain the same, only more students in a class. An assistant who worked here before went to the UK to study and will return to work during the summer. You can ask Amy for more details.
作者: Ocean419 時間: 12-5-30 21:52
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Elmostoney, could you tell me the annual tuition and misc fees for IMS kinder and also primary? I have checked the school website which does not mention the financial aspect.
Btw, my son has started at Bambino and he seems to be progressing although it is too early to say montessori education is the best path for him.
作者: minirat 時間: 12-5-31 10:13
Ocean419 發表於 12-5-30 21:52
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Elmostoney, could you tell me the annual tuition and misc fees for IMS kinde ...
Hi Ocean419, is your boy attending other playgroups at the same time? or only Bambino?
作者: Ocean419 時間: 12-5-31 13:24 標題: 引用：Quote:Ocean419+發表於+12-5-30+21:52+回復
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Hi Ocean419, is your boy attending other playgroups at the same time? or only Bambino?
作者: minirat 時間: 12-5-31 15:52
Ocean419 發表於 12-5-31 13:24
He started various english playgroups from 1y. They were mostly the singing, dancing, arts and craf ...
I see. Have you observe the difference between the usual playgroup and Montessori playgroup, in terms of changes in your boy?
作者: URARA 時間: 12-11-24 16:42
A friend said BC has toilet training and Bambino does not have toilet training, anyone knows?
作者: 積奇百事 時間: 12-11-29 12:23
URARA 發表於 12-11-24 16:42
A friend said BC has toilet training and Bambino does not have toilet training, anyone knows?
作者: mamath 時間: 13-1-28 16:32
retriever 發表於 12-4-16 11:11
just curious, mind to tell if your hubby is a HKger?
IMS is the only monte school in hk providing s ...
Hi I am new to this thread. Just curious to know what type of children suits this type of training?
作者: tuelovefei 時間: 13-2-7 10:52
唔好意思, 我打去bambino 問過, 點解老師話無得試堂既...
作者: minirat 時間: 13-2-25 12:39
tuelovefei 發表於 13-2-7 10:52
唔好意思, 我打去bambino 問過, 點解老師話無得試堂既...
From what I understand, no more trial classes now. If you are really interested in trying, you can consider enrolling for 1 month and decide from then whether to continue.
作者: tuelovefei 時間: 13-2-25 16:25
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noted with thanks.
作者: JANWANG52 時間: 13-3-27 15:34
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Hi minirat, I'm new to this forum and by browsing your topic provided loads of useful info and tips. Would you mind tell me have you enrolled your kid in any of the Monte playgroup yet? And how's it goes? Thx!
作者: candylove111 時間: 13-3-27 17:04
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作者: minirat 時間: 13-3-27 17:34
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甘你女女即系一歲就開始返Montessori Korea？
請問一個星期返幾日？
請問你見到你女女有邊方面的改變？
唔好意思，甘多問題
因為小兒都返緊Montessori，所以想交流下
作者: candylove111 時間: 13-3-27 17:57
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作者: minirat 時間: 13-3-28 10:57
candylove111 發表於 13-3-27 17:57
大約一歲時一星期返一日
而家歲半就一星期兩日, 訓練緊自己入課室玩
我見到我女自律同規舉左, 係屋企自己收 ...
甘你個女都好犀利，因為她開始上的年紀比較細，同埋一星期得2日
作者: kayeeian 時間: 13-3-28 12:37 標題: 回覆：candylove111 的帖子
哈囉！我見好少家長講Montessori Korea。如果要比較，ms Alison 同ms Ellen 你有評語？其實我個囡响ms. Alison 度返咗成年，由歲半開始返，依家pn只返一日囉！点知呢排問佢想唔想見ms Alison,佢搖頭。。我見ms Ellen 有好多好評，我又諗緊試唔試好！
作者: candylove111 時間: 13-3-28 13:42
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作者: minirat 時間: 13-3-28 14:14
candylove111 發表於 13-3-28 13:49
我女而家總識得放污糟衫落洗衣機, 放好D拖鞋, 梳頭髮
我覺得小朋友吸收係好快同記性係好好
嗯，系呀，他們吸收好快。基本上教一次就記得。
不過我個只野肯不肯做就睇心情！
系屋企，我仔淨系試過放好鞋，tidy up玩具書本，梳頭（只系作勢，因為他的頭髮豎起，基本上唔使梳）
未試過俾他幫手做家務，下次試下先！
作者: j830syp 時間: 13-3-28 14:22
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"肯不肯做就睇心情" same as my boy...we knew a lot of things too.. now i always ask him to give back the milk bottle to my maid every am.. when my mum comes, will ask him to give the slippers to Por por and wear for her too.. My son will join Bambino in end Apr cos its closer to the minibus stop... will see if his discipline can be improved...
作者: kayeeian 時間: 13-3-28 22:49 標題: 回覆：candylove111 的帖子
其實我好鐘意ms Alison, 佢講好多平時点樣教小朋友嘅方法， 加上教咗我個囡成年，非常了解佢，我有咩學管教問題我都會請教佢！
囡囡自理能力好強，好有主見，日常生活無咩要粗心，我諗個pg對佢有正面影響！
作者: chanhyan1 時間: 13-3-29 00:05 標題: 回覆：Montessori Playgroup - Best Concept or Bambino
咁有冇人去过wonder tots , also montessori in 太子，想揾間近D，因為住青衣，tst都太遠了，any comment?
作者: ssnchong 時間: 13-9-12 14:20
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Hello, I also live in Tsing Yi. Have you sent your child to any Montessori playgroup now? I know that "BBcare" in Prince Edward has offered this kind of playgroup in its centre. Have you heard of it?
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