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標題: St Paul's College (offerred place) Vs. Wah Yan, Kowloon (大抽獎, July) [打印本頁]

作者: alexpang1999 時間: 12-3-24 17:12 標題: St Paul's College (offerred place) Vs. Wah Yan, Kowloon (大抽獎, July)

本帖最後由 alexpang1999 於 12-3-24 17:15 編輯

Dear all parents,

It is very nice to meet you here and may I have your opinions regarding St Pual’s College. My son is a P6 pupil and doing Band 1(I think so) in Sham Shui Po. He has gotten an offer from SPC for F1 coming September. Now, I wonder that what would you SPC with Wah Yan (Kowloon)? If he accepts SPC (deadline 30 March 2012) and would not have chance to take Wah Yan (Kwoloon) because he will be withdrawn from "government central place allocation system". May I have your opinions? Thank you very much.

My concern is that my son's primary school to KWY is 2005(8 boys),06(10), 07(8), 08(9), 09(no data) and 10(4). The trend for KWY is dropping and he ranked 10th in form 3rd term (expect he ranks 10-15th in form graduation).

$38,000 annual school is affordable for me. We live in Kwai Chung and I expect the travelling time from home to SPC and KWY would be 20 minutes more a trip. My wife worries about travelling time but I expect a boy would be trained to be tough in anyway.

What would you advise, please?

作者: CHAN-2 時間: 12-3-24 23:31 標題: 回覆：alexpang1999 的帖子

SPC is better.

作者: motherotk 時間: 12-3-25 18:50

本帖最後由 motherotk 於 12-3-25 18:52 編輯

All depends on your own priority and your understanding of these schools, which school fit your son?

If prefer SPC, or it fits your son, just give up WY

If prefer WY, then you need to tolerate uncertainties during these few months, and to take risk, you then need to calculate the risk, big risk or small risk....need to understand your son's academic level, if within band 1 top, will have big chance, if not, will be risky

作者: Chanpp921 時間: 12-3-26 08:34

我諗最大考慮係交通時間, 你住葵涌, 去到中西區返學真係幾遠, 又唔近地鐵, 不過比我揀, spc 好d

作者: motherotk 時間: 12-3-26 09:10

本帖最後由 motherotk 於 12-3-26 09:13 編輯

If both are your good choices, why not taking the kid to the schools again, to feel the school culture ( I believe the interview process will be one of the indicators)..
see how he thinks about his future learning plans? how he feels about the interview process? how he feels about the school teachers he met, the school kids he met, and why he has such feelings.

Just like looking for girl friend, boyfriends and relationship partners, or even an employer, then you need to be matched and to live a full meaningful learning experience.. Sometimes a school is perfect in other people's eyes, may not be the child's or parents' cup of tea.

作者: C7fans 時間: 12-3-26 11:01

Near by home is my first consideration! Saved travelling time for doing other things!

作者: alexpang1999 時間: 12-3-26 11:03

Not decided yet, SPC lays on 1C grade and WYK is 1B grade, ranked 67th in 2010. Though some opinions are against WKY, it is hard to make decision yet.

作者: abceager 時間: 12-3-26 11:04

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Agree, location is one of the important factors.

作者: motherotk 時間: 12-3-26 11:53

My suggestion: think clearly about what is the best interest of your child, which best fit the child, in terms of long term potential development.

You know the best about your child, not us or teachers or other parents, or the media.

作者: wildcat_hk 時間: 12-3-27 00:45

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Please check pm

作者: LouBB 時間: 12-3-27 07:24 標題: 回覆：alexpang1999 的帖子

St Paul (for sure)

作者: alexpang1999 時間: 12-3-27 09:51

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Having read comments, advice, and ask many professional teachers. We do not decide to take SPC or leave it. (Fri) 20 Mar is dealline, we may make decicion in last minute. It is a very exhausted, tired and torture time for us. Hopefully, I do not need to play the GAME in my rest of life. Once is enough.

作者: abceager 時間: 12-3-27 10:21

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Be cheerful, having choice to make is a blessing. What ever choice you and your son made, it is good choice. Enjoy.

作者: motherotk 時間: 12-3-27 10:35

I believe you have made a best decision at this time/stage for the best interest of your child based on your understanding of your child's strengths and limitations..

Decision making process is stressful, after making decision, you feel released..

Congratulations!

作者: HKTO 時間: 12-3-29 14:21

My son stuides in SPC and he is now a F.3 student. When we lived in Kwai Chung, my son took a minibus to SSP and then took the bus No. 970 to school. You can check this bus route. Actually the travelling time is not as long as you expect. Hope you find it helpful.

作者: CPU1995 時間: 12-3-29 15:54 標題: 回覆：HKTO 的帖子

請問spc的教學模式及程度如何？Thx.

作者: alexpang1999 時間: 12-3-29 18:29

Daer all parents,

We have made decision between SPC and central allocation. We will not register SPC. Thank your all of your valuable opinions.

作者: ohnono 時間: 12-3-29 18:49

alexpang1999 發表於 12-3-29 18:29
Daer all parents,

We have made decision between SPC and central allocation. We will not register S ...

Then, you have to play the game again.

作者: hogwarts 時間: 12-3-29 19:41

Dear Alex,

Glad to hear that decision is made, wishing you and yr boy all the best in the secondary school years.

作者: alexpang1999 時間: 12-3-29 20:56

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Yes, I just have returned to the game and leave SPC. SPC is an outstanding school. I compare some information among SPC, Wah Yan Kowloon, Ying Wa College and Queen Elizabeth School (QES). The percentage of SPC students admission to big 3 in HK was around 40-50% past ten years (?except 2009?). 80% of graduates went to the 8 universities in HK. In addition, QES had 50% graduates went to local universities with no break down (QES annual report 2010). WYK had no annaul report to show. Ying Wa showed 75% F.7 went to UGC fund degree course, this data (75%) includes associated degree (annual report 2010/11).

SPC is the only one among YWC, QES, WYK to show break down of university admission.

作者: Rabo 時間: 12-3-29 22:00

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作者: LouBB 時間: 12-3-29 23:25 標題: 引用：Daer+all+parents,We+have+made+decision+b

原帖由 alexpang1999 於 12-03-29 發表
Daer all parents,

We have made decision between SPC and central allocation. We will not register S ...

Whoa.... You sure this is the right decision??

Only talking about student performance or academic level between these 2 schools, St Paul is already better.... Unless you have confident you can get a better school than SPC in central allotment, otherwise, it's very risky to drop SPC for something unknown...

作者: CPU1995 時間: 12-3-30 11:16 標題: 引用：Near+by+home+is+my+first+consideration!+

原帖由 C7fans 於 12-03-26 發表
Near by home is my first consideration! Saved travelling time for doing other things!

Taking bus route 970 from 太子站 to back door of SPC at Pokfulam Rd needs 30 mins.

作者: Rabo 時間: 12-3-30 22:59

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作者: ch1970 時間: 12-3-31 00:46

其實spc近年入U率急跌50％會否是因為早年與附小結龍的後果？

作者: lugano 時間: 12-3-31 23:28

本帖最後由 lugano 於 12-3-31 23:35 編輯

兩間都好

九龍華仁: 油尖旺 Band 1 中
聖保羅男校: 中西區 Band 1 尾

用 Khmama 的分析作個基準，我都同意九龍華仁在成續上和名氣上比聖保羅男校高一線，但放棄了聖保羅男校呢個學位去搏一搏，都有一定風險。換了是我的話，我會 register 左聖保羅男校當買個保險，然後六月再往九龍華仁叩門，咁樣 play safe 一些。

作者: alexpang1999 時間: 12-4-1 00:01

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We are in Yau Tsim Mong school net and I think the secondary school banding is so far so good. We had WYK interview this morning and my son saw many classmates, WYK arranged 7 boys of same school in a group interview.

We will go the central allocation and aim for band 1A to 1B schools in the net. In case of worst scenario, my boy will go band 1C in Y-T-M net.

作者: alexpang1999 時間: 12-4-1 00:12

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Our strategy is waiting for the central allocation in July. If no WYK or equivalent banding is given to us, we will knock SPC door. This method will ensure a chance of 1A or 1B school for my boy. In fact, friends in education field advise that SPC already accepted us and it will be a high probability to accept my boy in August if vacancy is available.

作者: Rabo 時間: 12-4-1 00:14

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作者: HKTO 時間: 12-4-2 14:22

SPC 是一間傳統學校，今年是創校160周年紀念，其教學模式亦是採用傳統教學為主。雖然是直資學校，但在三年前，學校仍有参加中央派位，故此，成績卓越而又参與大抽獎遊戲的學生多不會以SPC為首選，相反，成績稍遜而家庭經濟能力又許可的話，以SPC為首選的話，入讀機會便大大增加，所以成績大不如前也不是太意外的事，但在两年前，學校不再参加中央派位，自行收生，相對收生門檻亦提高不少，加上師資不錯，因此日後公開試成績理應上調。
加上校頗方注重學生的言行舉止，故此校風頗純樸，這是值得一讚的。

作者: motherotk 時間: 12-4-2 19:57

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That's great that you have full understanding of the situation, and have a courage to make a decision. Not an easy decision making when facing this type of situation. I learned from your experience. Thank you.

作者: BallBallMaMa 時間: 12-4-3 01:32 標題: 引用：回復+lugano+的帖子 Our+strategy+is+wait

原帖由 alexpang1999 於 12-04-01 發表
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Our strategy is waiting for the central allocation in July. If no WYK or equival ...

But SPC will really let you knock the door in August if you turn down their offer now? There must be a lot of students knocking door at that moment. Why a school will give offer to a "叛將" but not some other loyal fans?

作者: alexpang1999 時間: 12-4-3 12:07

BallBallMaMa 發表於 12-4-3 01:32
But SPC will really let you knock the door in August if you turn down their offer now? There must ...

You have made your points, every decision is risky and trade-off. Someone sees loyalty but some count competence.

作者: motherotk 時間: 12-4-3 13:49

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I kind of sharing your point of view. Making decision is the most difficult part, able to take risk and understand your own competence, as well as knowing your kid, is reflecting your competence as a parent.

作者: HKTO 時間: 12-4-3 17:29

My friend also gave up the offer from SPC and wait for the lucky draw. And she's prepared to knock SPC's door if she couldn't get an ideal school in the lucky draw. Wonder the school will still give places to those applicants.

BTW, the school net of YTM district is not as good as before. Apart from WYK, St. Francis and QES, it seems that parents won't have many other choices.

作者: leoncf 時間: 12-4-7 23:33

You may always go back to SPC to knock door.

作者: thousandollar 時間: 12-4-10 17:52

My understanding is that Wah Yan Kowloon will only consider knock-on-the-door applications only for those candidates who have attended interviews for the 30% discretionary placement.

作者: RabbitJump 時間: 12-4-10 23:02

本帖最後由 RabbitJump 於 12-4-10 23:02 編輯

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How about St. Francis Xaiver & Ming Kei? Do they only accept those have applied before? Thanks!

作者: thousandollar 時間: 12-4-11 13:29

I don't know the criteria of St. Francis Xaiver or Ming Kei. I beleive the admission offices of the schools should be able to answer this question.

Good luck!

作者: Rabo 時間: 12-4-11 16:30

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作者: HKTO 時間: 12-4-11 18:07

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For St Francis : Yes (info applied for last year and 3 years ago only)
Ming Kei : Not sure

作者: RabbitJump 時間: 12-4-11 23:01

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Thanks a lot!

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