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作者: ChiChiPaPa    時間: 12-3-22 06:14     標題: 真道:IB+DSE

今天星島有文章關於真道:1.ㄧ條龍兼讀少一年,11年完成中小學。2.可同時讀IB和DSE,現有5名雙軌學生。3.香港最平的IB課程之ㄧ。

http://www.singtao.com/yesterday/edu/octopus/0322go07.html
作者: ANChan59    時間: 12-3-23 23:14

IB - Non-JUPAS
HKDSE - JUPAS
You can select either non-JUPAS or JUPAS for university admission, why take both exams?

No offence, this insane arrangement only satisfy someone's or the school's ego more than the future of the students. One bird in hand .........
作者: ChiChiPaPa    時間: 12-3-24 00:57

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兩個學生的DSE同分,報聯招,爭難入的學系。其中一位是少數同時讀IB。大學是否真的會認為這學生很傻,為何會報兩個考試呢?

只有少數學生能同時讀IB和DSE。我想應不是問題。我希望這5位同學日後能以親身經歷和我們分享IB和DSE的優劣。
作者: ANChan59    時間: 12-3-24 03:22

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兩個學生的DSE同分,報聯招,爭難入的學系。其中一位是少數同時讀IB。大學是否真的會認為這學生很傻,為何會報兩個考試呢?When ties, so many other considerations, interviews, majors, OLE....... For hot programs, the scores even more important. Some schools in UK, also taking GCSE at F4/5 (compulsory), GCE AL/AS at F4-6 (Optional and not full cert.), IB at F7 (Compulsory), they stagger the schedule.

只有少數學生能同時讀IB和DSE。我想應不是問題。我希望這5位同學日後能以親身經歷和我們分享IB和DSE的優劣。That's true. The last but not the least, they still have a few months to decide single or double. Good luck.

I know you are playing as devil advocate in this case.


What's the true meaning of education????






作者: ANChan59    時間: 12-3-24 04:11

Change my hat:

Mr Chan, you always emphasize fact base discussion, don't rule out the possibility to take both exam in the same year. If they target MBBS as illustration:

Subjects               HKDSE                                     IB

Core                     Chinese                        Theory of Knowledge
                             English                          Extended Essay
                             Maths                            Creativity, Action and Service
                             Liberal Studies

Electives               2-3                                 6 electives

Others                   OLE

**********************************************************************************
Put Medicine as example

Chinese                one level                        Syllabus A, SL               B, HL
English                  one level                       Syllabus A, SL
Maths                    Core                              Maths Studies HL
Chemistry              one level                       Chemistry HL
Biology                  one level                       Biology HL                        SL
Economics             one level                       Economics SL
                                                                              
Others                   OLE                              TOK
                                                                   EE
                                                                   CAS

Take both, in terms of core, subjects or electives are workable as the above illustration. The major difference will be in Others - OLE, Liberal studies, TOK, EE and CAS. In case need better score, downgrade Chinese to Syllabus B HL, instead of A; and Biology from HL to SL. Also, only take 2 electives.

In others, we adopt the following strategy:

                            OLE                             CAS  (一雞兩味)
                            Liberal Studies            TOK / EE (Same topic for EE& LS)

Looks workable. isn't it?

*************************************************************

ANChan59

The critical success factors are:

1. Target the program first and pick the right electives;
2. In IB, don't take time demanding and hard subjects, if no special requirement, just pick the easiest level.
3. Repeat and double count some modules in Others
4. IB won't clash with HKDSE in 2013 examination.

it's extremely tough, but workable, if our kids, cut all on-line games, dating, face book; temporary forget about happy learning and adopt 雷鋒精神. God bless us and no clashes in IB & HKDSE exam schedule. Should be fine.

Yes, Acting Principal, you are right. I am wrong.
作者: ChiChiPaPa    時間: 12-3-24 09:19

係啊!真道怎知不會撞期?唔通考試局set DSE考試日期時,會就ㄧ就這些學生?還是他們有可能考IB 11月的考期?定是有些安排,我們還未完全明白?
作者: poonseelai    時間: 12-3-24 13:21

ChiChiPaPa 發表於 12-3-24 09:19
係啊!真道怎知不會撞期?唔通考試局set DSE考試日期時,會就ㄧ就這些學生?還是他們有可能考IB 11月的考期 ...

If the students' target is to enter universities in 2012 summer, why take IB in Nov?
作者: ChiChiPaPa    時間: 12-3-24 13:38

唔係2013Summer?
作者: poonseelai    時間: 12-3-24 15:15

ChiChiPaPa 發表於 12-3-24 13:38
唔係2013Summer?
Right should be 2013
作者: catcatmom    時間: 12-3-24 18:11

最近友人好煩, 大女讀國際中學, 細仔再升上去, 便會好大負擔, 我叫佢去一些學費較便宜既直資, 如真X, X思, 有IB讀.
但友人說這些中學, 此IB不同彼IB! 指國際中學與直資中學, 有些資源有限;加上師資;加上學資(學生資質), 唔係學生想讀, 就有得讀, 他說最初所有學生主要走DSE課程, 到上到高中, 學校認為LI個學生可以讀到, 先至比個小朋友轉讀.

O甘同國際學校有好大分別! 即係唔可以靠學校, 係靠小朋友既能力(英語能力)? 所以段NEWS有講政府批左6X個額, 現在只有2X人讀, 之前有直資有放棄唔辦IB, 就話政府唔批, 但我好質疑有幾多間直資, 培育出來學生, 可以讀到IB, 而有又好成績.

路過8掛, 吹吓水. THKS! 有錯請糾正!  
作者: ANChan59    時間: 12-3-24 18:42

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My two cents, just for discussion.


但友人說這些中學, 此IB不同彼IB! 指國際中學與直資中學, 有些資源有限;加上師資;加上學資(學生資質), 唔係學生想讀, 就有得讀, 他說最初所有學生主要走DSE
課程, 到上到高中, 學校認為LI個學生可以讀到, 先至比個小朋友轉讀. (Your friend may be biased by IS, sorry to say so, In HK the best IB school would be LPCUWC, an unique DSS, most local students come from local schools with local curriculum. SPCC and DBS will have IBDP results in 2013 and 2012, may further confirm high student ability, 3 years program can nurture good IB students...)

O甘同國際學校有好大分別! 即係唔可以靠學校, 係靠小朋友既能力(英語能力)?(A good students = good school + good teacher + good family support + good parenting ......) 所以段NEWS有講政府批左6X個額, 現在只有2X人讀, (It's normal for a new IB school, parents and kids take a more conservative approach. The same in DBS and SPCC.) 之前有直資有放棄唔辦IB, 就話政府唔批, (The school you mentioned, wanted all students can take IBDP in senior grades, but rejected by EDB due to DSS ruling - majority of students need to take local curriculum. Of course, costs and IB teachers also another consideration before they drop the proposal. DSS all faces the same problem, DBS & SPCC also limited to ~60, unless they changed to private school, like CKY.) 但我好質疑有幾多間直資, 培育出來學生, 可以讀到IB, 而有又好成績. (You may be right to certain extent, as a HK citizen, I hope most DSS IB schools nurture many good IBers to demonstrate the new education direction, some how like IB instead of NSS.)

I have a dream......... If foreign students queue up to join local schools, no need to wait for IS....... more expatriate families will come to HK.......

作者: hhy2007    時間: 12-3-24 21:14

I guess those 5 students may not go for IBDP in the end,  but IB certificate instead. In such case, they can just take a few IB subjects and have them credited in the university.  There are quite a lot of such cases in my daughter's previous IS that provides both IB and AP.
作者: poonseelai    時間: 12-3-24 21:14

In HK the best IB school would be LPCUWC, an unique DSS""-

It may not be fair to compare LPCUWC with other DSS offering IB.  LPCUWC is the only DSS in HK that can have all its students attending IB.  It only accepts HKCEE students with very high marks, and I think its resources are far more than other DSS.  Its annual fee for 2012/13 is HK$206,000!
作者: ANChan59    時間: 12-3-25 07:11

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Yes, you are right, It's not a fair comparison.
My initial thought was using LPC (DSS school) vs IS, and other DSS schools like SPCC and DBS may also comparable to most IS in IBDP.

I wish the other new DSS schools doing well in IB, even only 1/4 students taking iBDP, which may force the education officials have second thought.

Thanks for your reminder.

作者: ANChan59    時間: 12-3-25 07:15

hhy2007 發表於 12-3-24 21:14
I guess those 5 students may not go for IBDP in the end,  but IB certificate instead. In such case,  ...
I wish they take up IBDP and drop HKDSE instead.
Good IB learning is more than just results and or double exam. Learning is forever and good for the kids in studying and career planning; enter double exam is meaningless and doing no extra benefits for them, but for the school.......

作者: hhy2007    時間: 12-3-25 10:36

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I agree to almost all of your points.  Only one consideration you may have also noticed is that there do exist some students who are not fit for IBDP.  So I think it's alright for some students to take a few IB subjects and at the same time stick to other curriculum provided by school, by which they feel comfortable and confident. Well, of course, not all schools are able to provide so many options for their students.  


作者: ANChan59    時間: 12-3-25 11:05

Agree, thanks for your reminder, your suggestion is the best interest to the students. I will review my previous posts, add back your suggestion if applicable.

Of course, resource is another consideration.

作者: nintendo    時間: 12-3-25 12:21

hhy2007 發表於 12-3-24 21:14
I guess those 5 students may not go for IBDP in the end,  but IB certificate instead. In such case,  ...

我都差 d 唔記得有 ib certificate 呢樣野;可能到最後真係轉去讀 ib certificate 都未定。

hhy2007 你小朋友學校 ibdp + ap,係好唔同,美國好多學校都係咁,因為 ap 好 flexible,隨時考都得,又可以分科考。

但 ib + dse,我覺得根本係瘋狂。兩個課程都唔 flexible,係 package deal,要咁多科一齊讀一齊考。
dse 我唔熟。
但個個都知 ibdp 忙到嘔,朋友個女早兩年讀 lpc,精英喇卦?人地都話好忙好忙。
唔知呢間真 x  有幾掂,可以教到 d 學生咁勁,可以一面應付 ibdp d workload,又可以同時應付 dse,呢個 model,連 dbs 都唔搞膽做。

好戥呢班學生擔心。



作者: nintendo    時間: 12-3-25 12:25

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I agree to almost all of your points.  Only one consideration you may have als ...

既然唔適合讀 ib,咁重點解要勉強?
拎張 ib certificate,根入唔到大學
不如二選一,專心應付一個課程,我覺得入大學機會更大。

作者: ChiChiPaPa    時間: 12-3-25 12:39

如果有學校開DSE+AP就正啦!
作者: Cherishvalue    時間: 12-3-25 13:07     標題: 引用:Quote:hhy2007+發表於+12-3-24+21:14+I+gue

原帖由 nintendo 於 12-03-25 發表
我都差 d 唔記得有 ib certificate 呢樣野;可能到最後真係轉去讀 ib certificate 都未定。

hhy2007 你小 ...
同意!

完全不明白同時讀兩套的好處!

祇要考得好,IB 生一樣可以入本地大學的熱門學系!所以為了入本地大學而同時修讀DSE 的理據不成立! 是但一個(不管是DSE 或IB) 都是非常富挑戰的,同時兼顧我認為不見其善只見其害!

學方到底有沒有為孩子們想過,有必要嗎?




作者: hhy2007    時間: 12-3-25 13:43

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The school is mainly providing American curriculum.  Those students who take IB certificate will take SAT to meet college entrance requirement.  The reason behind is quite simple.  They just think those subjects are quite useful (or interesting).  And as long as they are able to meet the score requirement in that IB subject, the units they earned in same subject would be credited in their future colleges, the same as in AP.

作者: poonseelai    時間: 12-3-25 14:14

Just thinking about the logistics:

Assuming that IB studuents can continue to apply for HKU via the early bird system in Dec 2012 (same system this year), and if the Logos DSS + IB students get early bird conditional offers from HKU based on predicted IB grades, what should they choose:  go for DSS exam in March/April 2013 then IB in May 2013; or should they concentrate to do IB exam only?  

Seems 2012 DSS students only had interviews but not conditional offers from Us in HK, not sure about next year.
作者: ChiChiPaPa    時間: 12-3-25 14:32

IB考試會唔會失手?如果失手,有乜後果和有什麼選擇?又如果生病或有意外,有冇得補考?
作者: poonseelai    時間: 12-3-25 18:19

ChiChiPaPa 發表於 12-3-25 14:32
IB考試會唔會失手?如果失手,有乜後果和有什麼選擇?又如果生病或有意外,有冇得補考? ...

I believe your concern applies to all public exam
作者: ChiChiPaPa    時間: 12-3-25 18:30

我自己當年考GCE兩個Exam Board,HKAL,還有其他公開考試。我對同時考多個Exam,並不抗拒,因為真係覺得學到多ㄧ些。求學不是只考慮入大學。我明白同時考IB和DSE的困難,甚至不可能,但仍希望他們能成功走出一條路,讓大家參考。
作者: ANChan59    時間: 12-3-25 23:28

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I shared in the NSS vs IB post. Yes, you can but the top university won't consider your second attempt.
作者: 武航    時間: 12-3-25 23:29

本帖最後由 武航 於 12-3-25 23:33 編輯

同時修讀雙軌課程之概念其實源於前校長。當時既未能掌握有新高中之情況而ib亦未被認證,實有太多未知之數。因此我相信即使前校長仍在任的話,校方依然會根據現時之實際情況再作微調及安排。但當時雙軌之概念可能已刻劃於每位家長內。

事實上,校方於今年開課後已希望學生重新考慮單軌。但雙軌是校方之前對家長及學生之承諾,故校方將選擇權歸於家長。今年的首屆ib班,其實原先有17名學生選擇雙軌。校方建議學生以首次校內考試成績作憑據及參考再作選擇,經多翻考慮,現有雙軌5名。

既是家長及學生自己的選擇,該5名學生自有其個人能力。家長晚會中他們表示清楚知道只要他們報考新高中後必須要以新高中之成績投考本地大學,堅持雙軌只為豐富人生,多學知識。

我認為這雖然是較冒險的嘗試,但既是個人選擇,我還得佩服他們的堅持,胸襟及勇氣。
作者: poonseelai    時間: 12-3-25 23:47

"家長晚會中他們表示清楚只要他們報考新高中後必須要以新高中之成績投考本地大學"

So, you mean they will use DSS to apply for universities in HK, and do not have the attention to take the IB exam?  
作者: 武航    時間: 12-3-25 23:59

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他們會不會雙軌全考,我不能代他們答。但根據校方資訊,只要學生報考dse考試,無論會否考ib,即會自動以dse之成績以jupas報考本地大學,當中並沒有選擇餘地。
要是他們雙軌全考的話,那麼ib只會對其出國有用。
當然亦有其他可能性,比如到最後雙軌學生只考其一,那他們可將選擇權延至最後。


作者: 武航    時間: 12-3-26 00:04

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You have made a good application for those taking both exams.  If they make use of IB PG to get offers from HK's Us in advance, they have a flexibility to opt out the DSE exam and focus only on IB exam.

作者: ChiChiPaPa    時間: 12-3-26 00:19

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唔明。如果他們取得Conditional Offer,但又繼續考HKDSE,是否會喪失Offer?
作者: ChiChiPaPa    時間: 12-3-26 05:35

似乎家長或孩子決定讀雙軌前,值得寫ㄧ封信去本地的大學弄清對雙軌學生報讀大學的問題。
作者: 武航    時間: 12-3-26 07:39

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我不是這5名中的任何一員,故我不能理解他們背後的真正原因。
較大的可能估計是:
1。尊重當年前校長的初步建議
2。以ib面向世界(dse暫時的認受性始終較低)
3。將選擇延至最後,可能來年再作決定
4。認為能力所及,挑戰自己
5。正如某同學所說,豐富人生,多學知識。

無論是基於甚麼理由,那是家長與同學自己的選擇,校方只有尊重吧。



作者: ANChan59    時間: 12-3-26 08:06     標題: 回覆:武航 的帖子

3,4 are sensible choices.

2,5 should take IB.

1. dump and misled reason.

I guess ......




作者: ChiChiPaPa    時間: 12-3-26 08:09

在五個理由之中,把選擇延之最後並非一個好理由。在pre-IB完之前,就應诀定。否則,真係有幾會兩頭都受影響,兩樣都做不出理想的成績。到時,無論放棄那一邊都追不回失去的成績。

作者: ANChan59    時間: 12-3-26 08:34     標題: 回覆:hhy2007 的帖子

Add more consideration, only HL equivalent to AP, not SL.

Also American curriculum not so heavy as IB or HKDSE, SAT just high school leaving certificate. Just thinking my son taking 4-5 weeks preparation to take the test, not months or years.




作者: nintendo    時間: 12-3-26 09:10

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The school is mainly providing American curriculum.  Those students who take I ...

你小朋友學校,係一開始就就讀 ib certificate ,咁就比較 make sense (以 workload 角度)
實際上亦可行,因為始終 ibdp  真係 workload 好重
而亦因為學生有美國課程 (包括 ap 成績) 造後盾,就算只有認受性低的 ib certificate,入大學都唔會有問題
至於 sat,就個個都要考,同讀唔讀 ib 冇乜關係






作者: nintendo    時間: 12-3-26 09:19

本帖最後由 nintendo 於 12-3-26 09:36 編輯
ChiChiPaPa 發表於 12-3-25 18:30
我自己當年考GCE兩個Exam Board,HKAL,還有其他公開考試。我對同時考多個Exam,並不抗拒,因為真係覺得學到多ㄧ些。求學不是只考慮入大學。我明白同時考IB和DSE的困難,甚至不可能,但仍希望他們能成功走出一條路,讓大家參考。

IBDP 唔係公開試,而係兩年不間斷的 work work work
workload 好重

我地作為 "旁觀者",都希望佢地成功
但如果我係 "當事人",就有點比擺上檯的感覺
得,就學校同學生都有榮耀
唔得,學校最多死死地氣收聲唔提,但學生就成為犧牲品

既然話只係得幾個學生 ibdp + dse,咁應該係校內精英
雖然我唔清楚呢間學校水平與其他本地學校點比,但話得精英,應該唔差卦
精英學生,如果專心讀好 dse 或 ibdp,一定成績好好
咁不如正正經經二選一,專心讀好 dse ,或轉校去間有 ibdp 經驗的學校好過




作者: hhy2007    時間: 12-3-26 09:25

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Thanks for your clarification and important input.

作者: nintendo    時間: 12-3-26 09:33

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申請香港大學就用 dse,申請美加澳大學就用 ibdp ?咁奇都有?
當然,係可以,但係叫 d 學生咁做,真係玩死人

學校好似唔明 ibdp workload 好重咁?
其實好多 ibdp 學生,都應付得好辛苦
唔信去一 d  ib 討論區睇下就知
唔好忘記,全世界大部份 ibdp 學生都係精英學生

如果學校當初真係建議學生雙軌,我有理由懷疑學校會在校內評估做 "調整"
若然係咁我覺得 ibo 要認真 audit 一下某校是否會跟足 ibo 的 policy 做校內評估


作者: ANChan59    時間: 12-3-26 09:41     標題: 回覆:nintendo 的帖子

如果學校當初真係建議學生雙軌,我有理由懷疑學校會在校內評估做 "調整"
若然係咁我覺得 ibo 要認真 audit 一下某校是否會跟足 ibo 的 policy 做校內評估
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Why you say so? Can you elaborate more?




作者: hhy2007    時間: 12-3-26 09:43

本帖最後由 hhy2007 於 12-3-26 09:47 編輯

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Anchan,

Yes, SAT is much easier.  Some of my relatives in the US let their kids to take SAT at age of 12 or 13 for some scholarship programs.

Nintendo,

Yes.  Everybody in her school has to take SAT if they want to pursue higher education in the US.  As to IB certificate, only those who are interested and confident choose to do either IB certificate or IBDP.  Some able students choose to do AP.  As students choose either IB or AP based on their ability, the overall performance for IB/AP exam in the school looks pretty good.  

All in all, I also believe it quite difficult to do well in both IBDP and DSE if the students do the two at the same time. However, if people are able and want to challenge themselves, let them be. There are always exceptions in life.


作者: nintendo    時間: 12-3-26 10:06

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You are talking about outstanding students challenging themselves and take IBDP + DSE. I am sure there must be students that are able to. However, if a school is giving such advise to ALL students, I feel that the school is thinking about themselves more than for the benefit of the student. Bear in mind that we are talking about a school that is "average" and students are mostly quite mediocre.
作者: ANChan59    時間: 12-3-26 11:16

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If both parents and kids made an informed decisions, it's fair enough and good luck to them to do well in both.
If not........

作者: ANChan59    時間: 12-3-26 12:53

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I guess they will provide some conditional offers for 2nd batch HKDSE students. Definitely high scores.... to play safe.
The primary concerns of admission officers are how many 5**/5*/5, if so many 5 or 5*, even more than AL's A, they will stuck and offer hot programs to not so top students......The predicted grades from the local schools may be diversify and tend to overstate.

作者: hhy2007    時間: 12-3-26 13:59

I just realized one thing: if there are only 5 in the whole school, who are taking IB, then the class for each subject would be so small that it's just like private tutoring. With such intensive "tutoring" and attention from their teachers, those 5 students' performances are presumed to be better.   
作者: poonseelai    時間: 12-3-26 14:43

hhy2007 發表於 12-3-26 13:59
I just realized one thing: if there are only 5 in the whole school, who are taking IB, then the clas ...

according to the news, 5 taking both IB and DSE, around 20 taking IB only
作者: presents    時間: 12-3-27 12:32

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作者: ChiChiPaPa    時間: 12-3-27 12:51

何以認為IB比DSE難?

作者: ANChan59    時間: 12-3-27 20:24

ChiChiPaPa 發表於 12-3-27 12:51
何以認為IB比DSE難?
I typed the reply in the afternoon, but the update of EK made me lost all info and re-typed again.
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ChiChiPaPa asked a very good question, which I asked myself 2 years ago. I searched in the internet to find any researches or expert reports to compare the two exams, but I can't find any IB vs HKDSE (more IB vs AP and IB vs GCE AL).

I used a stupid method to compare the two exam. I use indirect comparison method from UCAS's expert reports, IB vs GCE AL and HKDSE vs GCE AL as reference.

Moreover, I researched the university admission requirement and credit recognition as reference as well.

1. May be some parents aware, the IBers of this year still can take 3-year programs in HK, but HKDSE only go for 4-year programs. From next year onward, IBer can have credit recognition of HL subjects in HK, UK and US....... but not for HKDSE.

2. From my observation HKAL > IB/AP > HKDSE > HKCEE > GCSE

3. It's not a scientific comparison, I used IB score 6/7 vs HKDSE 5*/5**

                                    IB                    HKDSE

Chinese A HL                         >
Chinese A SL                        >/=

English A HL                          >
English A SL                          <

Maths  HL                        M1 < Maths HL =/< M2
Maths  SL                              =                 M1


Chemistry HL                         >
Chemistry SL                         <

Physics HL                             >
Physics SL                             <


Economics HL                        >
Economics SL                        <

TOK/EE                                  >           LS

CAS                                        >          OLE

Just for reference, other parents can share their views.........


作者: ChiChiPaPa    時間: 12-3-27 20:44

當他們決定的時候,他們有3年時間準備IBDP,亦可有3年時間準備DSE。再比較海外和本地大學對IB和DSE的收生要求,我沒你那麼確定DSE是較易的路。而且4科不能選擇的主科當中有不獲海外大學認可的通識,升大的機會率,似乎DSE更小。
作者: friendlyguy    時間: 12-3-27 22:06

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Why do you think IB=AP?
作者: ANChan59    時間: 12-3-27 22:10

friendlyguy 發表於 12-3-27 22:06
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Why do you think IB=AP?
Be specific, IB certificate = AP, not IBDP. They are pretty close by subjects, of course, different people may have different view.
What's your view? How about other areas?

作者: friendlyguy    時間: 12-3-27 22:22

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I don't know. I just curious and when to know more, Have you compare individual subject syllabus and difficulty in getting high grade? I just know some US university will give credit to AP, GCE AL and IB HL.
作者: friendlyguy    時間: 12-3-27 22:29

hhy2007 發表於 12-3-26 09:43
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Anchan,

How many AP subjects did they take?
作者: whooammii    時間: 12-3-29 00:09

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作者: ANChan59    時間: 12-3-29 00:49     標題: 回覆:whooammii 的帖子

I always have a feeling those kids are misled by PY & vice-principal and made a biased decision.

If their IB certificate subjects are most SL, why not focus on HKDSE.




作者: peremum    時間: 12-3-30 08:26

For anyone who is interested in the past performance of Logos' students, I suggest reading their Annual Report 2010/11 (http://www.logosacademy.edu.hk/frameset02.htm) esp. p.48 showing the HKAL result 2011.  I can just hope that their future performance will be much better than the past.
作者: ANChan59    時間: 12-3-30 10:00

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I talked to a mom, her boy is the last batch of HKALE from LA, she said the results should be much better and students knew that the seniors not doing very well previous year(s), they work much harder.... As no turning back.
作者: peremum    時間: 12-3-30 11:48

Yes, working hard is very important.  Wish them all the best.
作者: ANChan59    時間: 12-7-4 00:07

peremum 發表於 12-3-30 11:48
Yes, working hard is very important.  Wish them all the best.
Good news, the kid got very good grade in HKALE, 1A2C2D..... should have a seat in HK. he may have HK$100k scholarship from LA. His parents are so happy...
作者: peremum    時間: 12-7-4 06:24

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Thanks for sharing the good news.  It is always happy to see a kid getting good result after working hard.
作者: ANChan59    時間: 12-7-4 12:50

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Yes, correct.
作者: student123321    時間: 12-7-5 01:33

IB 的設計

是想學生全能發展, 原意是好

但實際上, 不是岩所有人

DSE 教的內容偏淺.....

最後選番DSE 的機會較高, 如果在香港讀

如果真係要以IB 入專科,即LAW 及醫, 難度會相當相當高

真係想去外國讀大學, 就以IB 較好, 認受性很高
作者: Ceci333    時間: 12-7-5 19:42

真道同DBS都有給未讀過Pre-IB的Local School F.4升F.5學生報IBDP, 請問比起已讀過Pre-IB的人來說,這類學生是否辛苦很多?
作者: ANChan59    時間: 12-7-5 20:00

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如果真係要以IB 入專科,即LAW 及醫, 難度會相當相當高

Why you say so?


The competition of popular programs are keen, no matter you are from HKDSE or IBDP.

作者: ANChan59    時間: 12-7-5 20:05

Ceci333 發表於 12-7-5 19:42
真道同DBS都有給未讀過Pre-IB的Local School F.4升F.5學生報IBDP, 請問比起已讀過Pre-IB的人來說,這類 ...
According to DBS, the students didn't go through Pre-IB, the results are average or below average.
作者: Ceci333    時間: 12-7-5 21:28

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那為何還要收F4 升F5的學生直接入IBPD呢? 又為何LPCUWC的學生又沒問題呢?
作者: ANChan59    時間: 12-7-5 21:35

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Check your PM.




作者: ANChan59    時間: 12-8-28 21:29

ANChan59 發表於 12-7-4 00:07
Good news, the kid got very good grade in HKALE, 1A2C2D..... should have a seat in HK. he may have H ...
The boy gets into HKU and studies Economics and Finance.......




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