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標題: 請問為何三年級才可以知道小朋友讀書料子? [打印本頁]

作者: Rainy 時間: 12-2-29 11:39 標題: 請問為何三年級才可以知道小朋友讀書料子?

好多人都說, 三年級才知小朋友讀書係點, 請問點解? 有冇過來人分享下真實個案? thanks

作者: anna59 時間: 12-2-29 13:24

因為小三既野深左,多左,復雜左,同埋大細仔(年頭年尾)分別漸漸收細,到時就真系睇個學生既質數

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-2-29 13:26

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It's my first time to hear this....

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-2-29 13:28

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I felt P4 more difficult than P3. Just what I felt......

作者: smallfoothk 時間: 12-2-29 13:52

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朋友家長講因super幼兒園教得深,教到近小二至小三程度,如算術,背九因歌,英文教tense,中文要作文.所以小三前成績非常好.之後.....

作者: 小佳 時間: 12-2-29 14:07

那些成績好的小四學生, 是不是也是提早一年在校外學定先呢...

作者: motherotk 時間: 12-2-29 14:38

本帖最後由 motherotk 於 12-2-29 14:40 編輯

My experience: P4 seems more difficult, P5 even more difficult. But kids can handle the curriculum well after few months adjustment, once adjusted, all will be fine, no need for further tutoring.

作者: motherotk 時間: 12-2-29 14:41

是不是也是提早一年在校外學定先呢...
I disagree with that if you child has a normal development, like my son. However, if the child has special learning difficulties, like my daughter, it will be better to prepare that beforehand.

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-2-29 14:53

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For my case, no tuition.

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-2-29 14:53

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Agree absolutely.

作者: like_travel 時間: 12-2-29 15:03

本帖最後由 like_travel 於 12-2-29 15:06 編輯

小佳發表於 12-2-29 14:07
那些成績好的小四學生, 是不是也是提早一年在校外學定先呢...

my daughter was studied at KV so she keeps in top 3 ranking in primary .... till now (P6).

To have a "Good Start" is very important since kindergarten.

作者: like_travel 時間: 12-2-29 15:29

回覆 smallfoothk : 是全天後定在職?如在職就恭喜,恭喜發表於 11 分鐘前

當年在職...慘到9:30pm先帶個女番到屋企, 沖完涼還要睇ar 女功課, 又要同佢默書, 往往12點先可以sleeping, 慘無人道.KV 真係好地獄. 直至小一, 亞女先話, 原來讀書可以咁開心. 又因為底子打得好, 學習好易上手

作者: motherotk 時間: 12-2-29 18:13

Actually, even for my daughter, I find that she need more intensive learning support, not tutorials from others, but from someone really know her needs, and with a training in child development. Usually those at the tutorial centre not able to support that. So basically, will not do that for my daughter becuase it will not be helpful, or even worse, will be more damaging.

Therefore, I teach her myself because mum know your child well, and you know what strategies work well for her or not

作者: motherotk 時間: 12-2-29 18:18

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My daughter also studied in a "famous" kinder (as his brother's teacher interviewed her and at that time we were not sure about her issues), but...it's not about the kinder issue or which kinder you are in. it's about the child's development, or if the kinder suit the kid or not.

I believe that even children from "less famous" kinder, but with some developmental potentials, and with good supports, they will still bloom..

So, parents, don't worry, if potentials are there, they are still there, and irrespective where they come from, the potential will still be bloom - and we all know that "famous" school may not neccessarily provide the supports though their curriculum may be better - I guess, of course with your kind supports and encouragements, and also your belief that your child will grow.

作者: miffy 時間: 12-2-29 18:22

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作者: anna59 時間: 12-2-29 18:45

如果個學生質數好,就算幾深都應付得到,好容易追到,如果質數麻麻,就算間幼稚園幾深都好,初小就幾好, 一上高班,就退步

作者: anna59 時間: 12-2-29 18:47

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有d學校系小四開始深,有d就小三,不過小三已經睇到小小

作者: anna59 時間: 12-2-29 18:48

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乜依家既幼稚園咁深既

作者: twodaughters 時間: 12-2-29 18:52 標題: 引用：回覆+smallfoothk+ :+是全天後定在職?如在

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回覆 smallfoothk : 是全天後定在職?如在職就恭喜,恭喜發表於 11 分鐘前

當年在職...慘到9:30pm先 ...

「KV真係好地獄」？？？--- 我大女也在KV畢業，為什麼我覺得她很輕鬆？

作者: madscientist 時間: 12-2-29 20:03 標題: 引用：回覆+smallfoothk+ :+是全天後定在職?如在

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作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-2-29 20:52

anna59 發表於 12-2-29 18:47
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有d學校系小四開始深,有d就小三,不過小三已經睇到小小

Noted.
As I said, it's my feeling years ago, may be changed.......

作者: like_travel 時間: 12-2-29 23:27

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madscientist 發表於 12-2-29 20:03
可惜別人幼稚園嘻哈快樂，你孩子卻十一二點才可睡。

你孩子因為這樣考全級第三，別的孩子快樂過活，足夠睡 ...

It was not i wanted ! i was working mum when she was 5, i need to finish my day time work then pick up her and start to do home work, do u understand the situation ? Also my daughter was taking PM session so she can sleep till 11am ...

When she stepped into P1, all getting better, no more pressure till now.

作者: silvia_ng 時間: 12-3-1 11:16

咩都唔好信....有d三年級, 有d中學三年級, who knows? 每個小朋友都要開竅, 作為家長真係唔知幾時...只有乾著急。

咩贏係起跑線, 我唔信囉! 贏得太早, 一陣大左輸唔起。好似今日新聞又有一個書讀得多, 唔識做人, 少少事就話要死...唉....人生唔只得讀書+成績呢...

作者: Rainy 時間: 12-3-1 11:28

大家都說得很對...

作者: like_travel 時間: 12-3-1 12:51

silvia_ng 發表於 12-3-1 11:16
咩都唔好信....有d三年級, 有d中學三年級, who knows? 每個小朋友都要開竅, 作為家長真係唔知幾時...只有乾 ...

同意, 讀書叻又不等於識做人, 還要交際能力, AQ 高 EQ 高...

作者: SEricsson 時間: 12-3-1 13:45

我都係中學至竅, 以前讀小學都係成碌木咁, 但到左中學, 考第一!

作者: 瑩瑩老豆 時間: 12-3-1 20:55

我又覺得冇一定關係, 有人由p1 帶頭帶到 p6

作者: anna59 時間: 12-3-2 13:38

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果d好似叫 "占子"喎,100個學生得一兩個系

作者: silvia_ng 時間: 12-3-2 15:34

anna59 發表於 12-3-2 13:38
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果d好似叫 "占子"喎,100個學生得一兩個系

尖子果d我都好驚...由細到大一帆風順，大個未必識handle問題。

可能我想太多...但我情願我小朋友細時遇到多d錯折，跌下，失敗下，到大個之後會有處理困難既經驗呢!

作者: madscientist 時間: 12-3-2 15:41 標題: 引用：+本帖最後由+like_travel+於+12-3-1+09:48+

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作者: like_travel 時間: 12-3-2 16:32

madscientist 發表於 12-3-2 15:41
But YOU chose a kinder for you child that is arguably the most academic. It was your conscious choic ...

為什麼你這樣不可理喻, 每個人也有自由選擇的權利, 你這樣傷害人自己又沒有益處. 我不在此與你爭辯, 因為只是浪費我的時間.

作者: anna59 時間: 12-3-2 18:29

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你講得好岩呀,佢地好似未失敗過咁樣,第日出去做野,先知原來浄系讀書叻系唔夠既,我有個教書朋友同我講盡左力就算啦,我個心唸唔知你會唔會同d家長咁樣講唸
果一兩個"占子"未等於社會上既富豪羅

作者: anna59 時間: 12-3-2 18:36

我只希望我個小朋友可以入到"次精英"班,不過我知好多mama好想個小朋友入最top果班,不過因為我知我個小朋友既質數,入到次精英班已經好好,在我黎講已經達標,haha,我知好多mama唔同意我既講法既

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-3-2 18:50

silvia_ng and anna59

I am a bit optimistic about the elites. I know most elites not just academic excellent (I assume 尖子，equivalent to academic excellence.), they also have other strength(s), like music, sports, community services..... all these also provide opportunities to nurture and develop them from different levels of failure and bounce back.......

ANChan59

作者: lillymarie 時間: 12-3-2 20:42

本帖最後由 lillymarie 於 12-3-2 21:15 編輯

根據這書的作者：
1。win at the start 是真的，因為學習能力越高，越學得多學得快，慢慢地不同學習能力的人彼此的矩離就越拉越遠。
但是，所謂 win at the start, 是指閱讀能力和通識。不是要小朋友去學這學那，而是多閱讀，多接觸不同事物，父母多些和小朋友傾計。

2、外國的研究亦發現一般學童在小學四年級開始就拉遠矩離，因為4年級開始，教學不再著重基本認字和基本閱讀技巧，反而開始要求學生有組織性地思考分析，著重的是字裏行間的意思。學生若閱讀能力跟不上，就會感到吃力。

win at the start 是優勢，但不代表後起的人就永遠不能超前，只是要自知人家已在前頭跑了一段路，而且速度快過自己，要追上就要加倍加倍地努力。

作者: mymelody2003 時間: 12-3-16 10:43

我覺得由小四開始, 學生的成績突然上升是家長及學生巳意識到小五的程分試重要性, 所以一批不太緊張的家長開始吹谷學生, 形成測/考成績爭分非常激烈.

還有的是, 到了四年級各方面的發展也較好呢!

作者: mamee 時間: 12-3-16 12:10

mymelody2003 發表於 12-3-16 10:43
我覺得由小四開始, 學生的成績突然上升是家長及學生巳意識到小五的程分試重要性, 所以一批不太緊張的家長開 ...

都岩, 今次(四年級)家長日, 老師都講, 大家啲分開始咬得緊左, 可能因為快小五, 個個都開始出力, 叫我平時要俾街外既練習阿仔做下喎

作者: mymelody2003 時間: 12-3-16 12:18

因為根據囝囝三年級頭十名的名次中, 一個名次同時有2-3位同分的, 所以我才意會到好多家長小三時巳開始吹谷.

作者: qq123 時間: 12-3-16 14:43

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作者: clarawuwu 時間: 12-3-16 16:13

雖然,好多人會話讀書叻,第時做野未必叻,又話好多叻人細個讀書唔叻...
但我始終認為,我唔諗佢將來工作叻唔叻先啦,,起碼要應付目前讀書先,唔讀好書將來條路一定難行先啦,想做個專業人士都係要靠讀書門檻先有,係好現實,但係真禾.
當然,注重學業時,德行都好重要(呢點睇父母),又要俾佢學番一樣撚手既課外活動做籌碼旁下身,多2個獎去面試都定d,唉....做盡心盡力既父母就係咁,小學一開始就要計劃晒點行,如果,去到p.5先自去開始搵,真係又遲又後悔...

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