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作者: teresabba 時間: 12-2-28 13:52 標題: 蘇浙 vs 玫瑰崗，邊間好？

蘇浙(PM) vs 玫瑰崗 (AM)，邊間好？

作者: moemoemama 時間: 12-2-28 14:05

I like 蘇浙

作者: teresabba 時間: 12-2-28 16:13

thx. But is it the standard of english in RHS is higher than KCS? KCS is good at Mandarin. Any mama know how many child per class and how many classes now for K1 in RHS and KCS? Thanks

作者: teresabba 時間: 12-2-28 18:38

Any mama give advice, thanks so much

作者: Littleho 時間: 12-2-29 11:10

KCS has close to 40 students per class. Each class is led by 2-3 teachers/teaching assistants. I do not know about 玫瑰崗 because I only consider international schools or KCS which has English and/or Mandarin as the sole teaching medium. Entry into KCS/KCIS has become increasingly competitive. My boy (now K3) speaks good Mandarin and English

作者: yfchoy 時間: 12-2-29 11:25

RHS class around 3X students per class with 1 classmistress, 1 associates teacher and 1 assistant. RHS's English level is good, they will have the English native speaking teacher to teach english (foreigner). Putonghua will also find the native speaker. The whole environment is good. Is a happy learning school. They will not stay in the classroom all the day, after the teaching the main syllabus, they will separate into groups for learning different things (sometimes will be in the corridor outside the classroom). Montessori education is one of the main buying point to the school.

作者: Angel_BB 時間: 12-2-29 11:31

我鐘意玫瑰崗，因朋友的囝囝係果度讀，學校好多親子活動，老師又有愛心，老師比例又較平均... 我見另一個朋友讀蘇浙，一班好多人，好似好混亂咁！

作者: CFHung 時間: 12-2-29 12:11

My elder sun studied in 蘇浙 many years ago. The environment was not good, very crowded. I remember there was around 40 kids in one class. And my younger son is now studying at RHS. The teachers and admin. staff are very supportive & helpful. Also the environment is clean and tidy. I think the principal requires high standard of customer service

作者: crystalpui 時間: 12-2-29 12:52

RHS來緊9月係唔係冇學卷啦?

作者: teresabba 時間: 12-2-29 14:25

From what i saw during the interview for 2 schools, the environment of RHS is very good. Compare to KCS, KCS much more crowded.

But if consider the education standard, which school is more favourable for attending the primary school competition three years later lei?

作者: feiji 時間: 12-2-29 15:12 標題: 回覆：crystalpui 的帖子

RHS still has 學卷 next year.

作者: feiji 時間: 12-2-29 15:16 標題: 回覆：teresabba 的帖子

If you target for local primary schools, I believe the academic training in Rosaryhill is better. In additional to their balanced curriculum of English and Mandarin, they put a lot of effort in training the children's reading and writing skills, which it is very important when the children enter P1.

作者: Littleho 時間: 12-2-29 15:22

Does RHS also teach Cantonese? Are all classes taught by native Mandarin or English teachers.

Many thanks

作者: tanglulu 時間: 12-2-29 15:42

ksc students will have a bit better chnace to go to kcs primary!

作者: stepyau 時間: 12-2-29 16:05

本帖最後由 stepyau 於 12-2-29 16:30 編輯

聽説RHS班房不夠要在走廊上課，原來是分組活動。RHS的校園比蘇浙好多了

作者: teresabba 時間: 12-2-29 16:09

Actually, we target for local primary school. How about RHS? Students have better chance to go to RHS primary? How many quota available for RHS primary? Seems very keen competition for RHS primary. I don't know whether my info is correct.

Any mama know the time allocation for english and mandarin each day in RHS kindergarten? Full day or just an hr etc? thx

作者: gwlam 時間: 12-2-29 16:16

KCS的操場是用來泊車的嗎

? interview時看見有這麼大的操場還覺得很有傳統學校feel ..... 原來唔係比學生用

？

作者: stepyau 時間: 12-2-29 16:29

之前有KCS的post（好耐好耐之前啦）這樣說，所以我也一直以爲蘇浙的操場是用來泊車，有活動才開走d車。我小朋友讀PN PM，經常見到校車駛入操場，但忘記了是否見過全部校車都泊在裏面的場面，還是放下小朋友後車就開走 ~~~ 為免誤導，等我向其他家長求證下先。PN班就去室内個playground玩。

作者: Oscar66 時間: 12-2-29 17:04

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RHS班主任係講廣東話。

作者: catiou627 時間: 12-2-29 17:13

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KCS 40 people in one class at K1

作者: catiou627 時間: 12-2-29 17:22

如果想學普通話, 咁就係蘇浙, 我個女讀左一個學期K1.佢由一D都唔識兼唔鐘意, 變到主動同我地講普通話, D音仲好標準, 基本溝通都OK, 學得好快.

作者: Littleho 時間: 12-2-29 17:31

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Thanks. Then, I think KCS/KCIS fit my requirements

By the way, apart from KCS, are there any other pure Mandarin/English (non-Cantonese) kindergartens which are eligible for the educational coupon scheme?

作者: yfchoy 時間: 12-2-29 17:38

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請不要聽一些一知半解的傳言。別以為在班房外上堂很慘！我之前睇喎佢哋上堂(有觀課日)，佢哋會有小組活動，會分開三組。一組在課室內做一些以英語作對答的遊戲(家長訂閱National Geographic Kids給小朋友於小組遊戲時玩樂)，另外一組會在走廊黏貼交通工具於牆壁上作學習，小朋友既可走動，又覺得有新鮮感。最後一組則聽從英文老師說出顏色後，小朋友要以腳站在該顏色部份的地墊上(地墊上有不同顏色的圓圈)。每一組的小朋友都因投入學習而發出一定聲音和滋擾，不可能每小組在個別班房進行，再者，學習不一定要待在班房，什麼是活動教學？難道一間班房可以把所有教材放在裡面嗎？之前我都睇到話要在課室外上堂有點奇怪，但看見以後，我覺得這安排絶對冇問題。他們每組完成後又可迅速到另一組玩樂，若果分開不同班房便不方便。另外我還看見一些高年班的同學更會在班房外以掛畫框表着膠片讓同學們畫畫，難道又因為唔夠班房而要在外畫嗎？

作者: Littleho 時間: 12-2-29 17:49

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Thanks for your info. Are the Mandarin and English classes taught by native speakers?

作者: 叮噹媽媽 時間: 12-2-29 17:50 標題: 回覆：yfchoy 的帖子

係呀，我囝囝衣家返緊學前PG都係分組。我見到好多車車照片貼係走廊牆上面，我囝囝好開心指住呀。我唔相信學校因唔夠班房而係走廊上堂囉，RHS校園及班房都好大。

作者: Littleho 時間: 12-2-29 17:50

Is the "1日蒙特梭利教學" taught in Cantonese? Thanks

作者: yfchoy 時間: 12-2-29 18:01

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I'm not sure about the Mandarin and Montessori class as I attend the English day, the host english teacher is foreigner and native speaker. But during the game day, I saw my girl went to her mandarin teacher who is also native speaker.

作者: Littleho 時間: 12-2-29 18:07

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Thanks again. It looks like 玫瑰崗 has a good language environment. Unfortunately, we missed the opportunity to apply for the school. I know some expatriates (ie foreigners) put their kids in 玫瑰崗 .

作者: sasiuman 時間: 12-2-29 18:12 標題: 回覆：蘇浙 vs 玫瑰崗，邊間好？

玫記真係好到不得了，至少課室大過蘇淅，見完蘇淅嘅課室，咁細要入咁多小朋友，真係怕怕。而且玫記功課，我仔K2已寫句子，填充。訓練小朋友上小學識應力強，怕有D小朋友追唔上，如果你係hea嘅父母唔好揀玫記！因為你夜晚要返屋企溫書，但小朋友極like學校。再者有宗教，價值觀都會好D。我哋呢D玫記媽媽極love學校！

作者: Littleho 時間: 12-2-29 18:23

sasiuman 發表於 12-2-29 18:12
玫記真係好到不得了，至少課室大過蘇淅，見完蘇淅嘅課室，咁細要入咁多小朋友，真係怕怕。而且玫記功課，我 ...

Yes, KCS program is less rigorous than other elite kindergartens' . I heard there are cases where KCS kindergarten graduates find hard to adapt in local primary schools. I heard KCS has deliberately lowered the standard. I thought it was due to the fact that it need to comply with the government standard in order to become eligible for the educational coupon scheme.

作者: gwlam 時間: 12-2-29 18:30

Rosaryhill 唔係都有學卷？科程深度點會同KCS差好遠

作者: Littleho 時間: 12-2-29 18:33

According to a K3 parent, KCS program was much more rigorous in the past.

作者: stepyau 時間: 12-2-29 19:02

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看來分組上課很有趣。不過我不是道聽途說，是在玫記工作的朋友告訴我的，可能她不是幼師所以也只憑肉眼見推想。其實最重要是你認同學校，小朋友喜歡就很夠了。我也有報玫瑰崗，十分欣賞他們的語言教學，更喜歡他們入班房要換鞋的做法，但只是waiting。

作者: CFHung 時間: 12-2-29 19:16

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Yes, I believed RHS teachers and principal spent a lot of time on program plan.

作者: feiji 時間: 12-2-29 22:35 標題: 回覆：gwlam 的帖子

有學卷跟課程深淺是兩回事呀。

Montessori is taught in English by qualified Montessori teacher.

作者: lymchau 時間: 12-3-1 09:45

May I know any final recommendation? Which one better?

My girl gets both PM offer in both school?

作者: stepyau 時間: 12-3-1 10:31

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I think both are good voucher schools - really hard to choose. Given the quality, cost, and P1 places are more or less the same, maybe you can consider other practical stuff, like distance. Read from other posts and know that your kid is studying PN in KCS - how do you feel about KCS so far? If your kid loves the school, you may also take into account this factor.
We got waiting from RHS so no need to choose and will stay in KCS for K. I am pretty satisfied but do admit that the campus and size of classes etc. at KCS are less than ideal.

作者: lymchau 時間: 12-3-1 10:40

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my case is a bit complicated.

My elder girl studies in K2 in KCS. Both sisters can go to school together and I am surely very happy to the school even sometimes I think the environment is a bit crowded and not much place for them to play.

However, my youngest son can't get offer from KCS and only gets offer in RHS with my younger girl. So, if my younger girl picks RHS, she can go with her brother.

Distance is my consideration as well. RHS is too far far away from ours la!!!

Thinking the good environment of RHS...... a bit struggle, but actually I love my kids learning PTH (I was working in Shanghai and do love my kids can communicate with my friends there), that's why I moved them from Vic to KCS.

作者: Littleho 時間: 12-3-1 10:52 標題: 回覆：lymchau 的帖子

Is PM an issue for you ? I prefer AM because kids can take nap and do other things in the afternoon . By the way , I receive a waiting list letter from KCS .

作者: mamay 時間: 12-3-1 11:35

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KCS 有冇分組上課?
Same as 樓主, I got both offer and has attended the RHS playgroup.  My son loves RHS....especially Mr Paul....as he used to study at international kinder, thus, he loves all the native english teacher.
I am still struggling.....as my son is very active (his character and used to study at international school), I wonder if he can adopt KCS......correct me if I am wrong, I think KC is more 嚴.....He also likes Eng so much.

玫記功課K2已寫句子，填充 which I like it so much....it makes them more easier to adopt to primary school life.  How about KCS?
Can RHS pupil able to speak simple PTH?

Shall I pick RHS?

作者: yfchoy 時間: 12-3-1 11:56

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絶對可以，不過也視乎妳會否幫佢練習。我囡囡嗰班都喺Mr.Paul教，後生又靚仔(嘻嘻)，見佢對啲小朋友都好友善。玫記功課雖然深，但囡囡仍喜歡返學、說喜歡老師。所以佢哋應該都喺愉快學習。另外，玫記英文絶對唔差，佢哋用嗰套phonics教材，令小朋友唔會抗拒。表哥k2在街上看到一些英文字都識讀，但唔識解(佢哋咁細，唔識解都正常)。這就証明這套phonics教材有用，因為只要看到字母便能拼音出來，不用死記。

作者: feiji 時間: 12-3-1 12:02 標題: 回覆：lymchau 的帖子

本帖最後由 feiji 於 12-11-24 02:09 編輯

Regarding distance, please check the Schoolbus timetable.

作者: Erniebao 時間: 12-3-1 12:36

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Hi yychoy,

你提過佢地用一個Phonics 既教材，是那一套呢? 我昨天都打去學校問過，她們說native speaker 會全天都係課室裡，是否屬實呢? 另外, stubb road 係咪成日塞車架? 多謝幫忙回答。

作者: tanglulu 時間: 12-3-1 12:50

both are good kinder, if you really have no preference on either one, you may think about their primary to see which one you would like to pick!

作者: teresabba 時間: 12-3-1 13:07

It seems that both need to have interviews and compete with outsiders. Which primary school - RHS or KCS, will be better? There are so few comments on these two primary schools. thanks

作者: yfchoy 時間: 12-3-1 14:01

Erniebao,
佢哋用Mels Phonics，幾唔錯，又有iphone apps(完整當然要付錢)。native speaker喺會企在一邊，到上英文課便會出嚟。另外其中一個小組活動都會由佢主持(根據我觀課日所看到)。交通方面，答唔到你，但由於只得一條路，放學時間都應該有機會塞車。

teresabba
RHS is a private primary school, it really depends on parent's preference. But for the primary section environment, they will use english teaching and will also have spanish language learning. The students will read english comics and they think it is so normal to them. However, environment like that might be not suitable for traditional HK secondary school. So that's the concern and most of the KG parents rather search for the primary school outside. And most of the primary school acknowledge RHS KG kids's english level is good.

作者: Erniebao 時間: 12-3-1 14:13

yfchoy 發表於 12-3-1 14:01
Erniebao,
佢哋用Mels Phonics，幾唔錯，又有iphone apps(完整當然要付錢)。native speaker喺會企在一邊， ...

Thanks yfchoy.

Native speaker喺會企在一邊，到上英文課便會出嚟===== 即是不是全天都是英語學習吧。那純英語時間有幾多呢?

作者: mamay 時間: 12-3-1 14:14

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Thanks yfchoy,
I will arrange PTH tutorial outside......
By the way, my son is learning Letterland phonics, do you think I should stop as RHS is using another kind of phonics.

P2 中文寫句子 is really "tough" (though I like it). I know KCS only write single word. However, they use P1 English boo (longman) during K3.

Do u know which Eng book they are using at K2? I read from other EK that RHS is using Kid National Geog as teaching material....WOW, I can't believe it .......not easy reading material..........

作者: mamay 時間: 12-3-1 14:16

teresabba 發表於 12-3-1 13:07
It seems that both need to have interviews and compete with outsiders. Which primary school - RHS o ...

Honestly, I am not targetting the KCS and RHS primary school. I rearlly look for one kinder with higher standard.
The reason is that my 1st son studied in a very happy kinder and he was the top 3 students of the class. Now he moves to a 直資 primary, his Chinese rank last and eng is below average in the class during P1. He really needs to work very hard to catch up....now as average during p2 students.

作者: yfchoy 時間: 12-3-1 14:22

Erniebao 發表於 12-3-1 14:13
Thanks yfchoy.

Native speaker喺會企在一邊，到上英文課便會出嚟===== 即是不是全天都是英語學習吧。那 ...

咁正如我之前講，我當天觀課的情況喺先分三組練字(由一位老師負責一組)，會以英文提點。然後由班主任以廣東話教授小朋友過馬路知識，跟住便是英文堂和小組活動。

作者: yfchoy 時間: 12-3-1 14:39

mamay 發表於 12-3-1 14:14
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Thanks yfchoy,

Yes, you are right.  They will have National Geographic Kids Book for their group activities.  It is not compulsory, if you didn't buy that book, your kid cannot attend that group.  Btw, the annual magazine fee is not expensive, this year around $200.  You can get the book back after they finish that book.  Even you get the magazines but you will not have time to read with him, maybe not so useful.  However, the teacher will use the games and photos inside the magazine to teach them, that's good.  The magazine has not so many words, mainly photos, and you can tear them photos out as cards collection.  They will also have things finder game.  So it's funny for the kids.
For the English book, they are also using the longman.  My girl also need to learn the simple english sentence and lines up the words as simple sentence.  At the same time, they will also learn A-Z (actually if studying PN class, they already start).

For the phonics parts, I'm not sure about that.  It really depends, you need to observe your kids, both phonics can reach the same result, but if you let him learning many ways to reach the same result, will your son feel confuse?

As my observation, teaching putonghua and english on the same time, on the early stage, they might confuse a bit.  Later they can find the way to separate.  But important thing, don't let them learn the so-called english or putonghua.  They will learn the incorrect tone.  So I will not talk to my girl in putonghua or english.

Finally, they will write a chinese simple sentence in K2.

作者: teresabba 時間: 12-3-1 14:55

yfchoy thanks very much for your info. But why u said that the "environment like that might be not suitable for traditional HK secondary school. So that's the concern and most of the KG parents rather search for the primary school outside." It seems the environment is very good in RHS.

And your kid is studying in RHS, she enjoyed the school life. thanks

作者: yfchoy 時間: 12-3-1 15:23

teresabba 發表於 12-3-1 14:55
yfchoy thanks very much for your info. But why u said that the "environment like that might be not ...

RHS primary school not teaching chinese (if I'm correct). If you go to the traditional english school, the way they learn and the environment will be totally different. And the things they emphasis are different too. Therefore, the kids will hard to adopt. If only for the kids and not concerning the HK educational system, RHS primary school is good.

作者: teresabba 時間: 12-3-1 18:18

thanks. Actually, KCS and RHS is not our target for primiary school. Of course, it depends if my daughter got better offer for P1 three years later. So I would like to select a kindergarten with higher education standard so that she can compete with others. My daughter is small b, ie borned end of 2009. So the chance for getting in better school will be more difficult. This is from my experiences from these few mths interviews.

作者: mamay 時間: 12-3-2 10:05

teresabba 發表於 12-3-1 18:18
thanks. Actually, KCS and RHS is not our target for primiary school. Of course, it depends if my d ...

same as you........my elder boy is studying at a DSS school now, hope my younder boy can get in too....

Anyway, thanks for all the comments......we have decided to go for RHS......
Majority is the due to my son's charter and language preference. He is a very active boy and like English.....Since he has been studying the playgroup at RHS, he likes the environment and like Mr Paul so much......
He keeps saying he want to go to the Big School or Mr. Paul's school (he does not know the name of RHS)

Also by checking on the website and also chatting with some of my friends who have kids studying at KCS, there are relatively less activities or parental activities offered by KCS......I love RHS has christmas party, halloween party and summer class. You can also tell by the website RHS is more Eng focus.

Having said that, KCS are highly recommended by my friends.....just that I found RHS fit my son and our family more.

作者: yfchoy 時間: 12-3-2 10:19

mamay 發表於 12-3-2 10:05
same as you........my elder boy is studying at a DSS school now, hope my younder boy can get in too ...

That's true, it really depends what you needs. Especially if you have an active boy, he will enjoy school life.

作者: teresabba 時間: 12-3-2 12:29

mamay, me too. My daughter is also an active girl. We would like to get her more focus on English, if compare to putonghua.

We may choose RHS now. yfchoy, also thanks for your comments

作者: mamay 時間: 12-3-2 12:36

teresabba 發表於 12-3-2 12:29
mamay, me too. My daughter is also an active girl. We would like to get her more focus on English, ...

It is a tough decision though in the bottom of my heart, both my hubby and I like RHS more in the very beginning.....
KCS is very hard to get in, it is really a tough choice to give it up (over 3000 applicants this year).
But we should 孩子為中心....
did you join the playgroup?
My son is so looking forward to tomorrow class .......

to equip my son with better PTH, we will learn from outside...plus the teaching from RHS, it should be more than enough

作者: teresabba 時間: 12-3-2 14:35

Same as you, mamay. Its really a tough decision to decide, especially my daughter is small b. Last year when we applied the pre-nursery school, many schools include KCS rejected our offers cause my daughter is borned after sept 2009. This year we applied the K1 and luckily we got the offer. I know KCS is very hard to get in, but the first impression in terms of environment for RHS is much better than KCS.

We did not join the playgroup in RHS but she's attend PTH course from outside now.

作者: mamay 時間: 12-3-2 14:48

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u did not register KCS today, didn't you.

Already registered PTH course for him.....start this weekend...........

作者: teresabba 時間: 12-3-5 14:24

mamay, you already registered PTH, woo...so quick! Where you joined? Can you PM me please? Hope my girl will be with your boy in same class in coming Sept.

作者: mamay 時間: 12-3-5 18:10

Pls check PM. My younger son just follow my elder son....same PTH teacher and centre....30 mins and he enjoyed it a lot.

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