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作者: ganbatei 時間: 12-2-22 13:44 標題: 德望 VS 聖心
如不計住址(因會搬家就小朋友), 你地會點比較同選擇? 是否兩間都不能算是龍校?
Thanks!
作者: Ackl1002 時間: 12-2-22 14:40
If we don't take into account the school campus, I will choose SH. It is because the location of SH is likely to have traffic jam during any hour of a day. Also if you don't take the school bus, I think it is dangerous for the small kids to walk on the slim pavement of the Mosque Street to reach the school campus. Once you are in, you still need to walk down like 5 storeys of stairs before reaching the classroom. Having in terms of teaching standard, SH is first class.
SH is more traditional, it can mold your girl into a well-behaved lady when she graduates from secondary school, even if she is not good academically (touch wood), she will still be a good citizen.
GH is also good, and is more all-rounded, heard that their sports is really strong. Discipline is also emphasized. These are just info read from EK and other websites.
Both are good schools, with SH a bit higher academically.
I declare that I am on waitlist of SH, and got offer from GH. I'll probably take the GH offer.
作者: ganbatei 時間: 12-2-22 18:22
Thanks! I also like the campus of GH much more than SH. However, we are more concerned on the chance of acceptance by their Primary School. Sister Pauline of GH said around 95% of their K3 students will go to P1 (no sure if I heard correctly), how about SH? Anybody knows?
作者: raymond338hk 時間: 12-2-22 22:09
If location is not a factor for consideration, I also want to know which one is better . Have anyone give comment?
作者: iantsing 時間: 12-2-22 22:21
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作者: iantsang 時間: 12-2-22 22:38
本帖最後由 iantsang 於 12-2-22 22:40 編輯
(just my personal comments)
I agree the general impression is GH is really strong in sports, but as a person who follow the sports events among schools closely in Hong Kong, you can refer to the BOCHK Bauhinia Bowl Award. This award collect most major sports of all schools in Hong Kong and rank them collectively. For the past few years, surprisingly, SH ranks higher than GH in girls overall. Of course, the first two has been Heep Yunn and DGS for a really really long time. For the past five years, SH has been consistently ranked third throughout. GH was either fourth and fifth.
Here's the link for reference:
http://www.hkssf-hk.org.hk/hk/sec/bauhinia-bowl.htm
Last year's result as sample:
http://www.hkssf-hk.org.hk/hk/sec/bauhinia%20bowl/past%20results/1011_BauhiniaBowl%20girls.pdf
作者: iantsang 時間: 12-2-23 11:28
(Just my personal comments)
Sheffield, I knew this all along. 
And I certainly know a lot more than what I have ever disclosed here (this is the first time I mention this in the past 3-4 years 
).
I don't believe in hearsay. So I have this craving to look for the fact and analyze them myself. Often times will be surprised by what I found.
Cheers!
作者: sheffield 時間: 12-2-23 11:32
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disclose more la!! i like surprise very much ah! hahahaha :)
作者: iantsang 時間: 12-2-23 11:48
spmok1999, the one mentioned by SUNDAY Kiss on last week's issue is just Inter-school Athletics only (aka Track and Field). The one I referred to is like an overall ranking of all inter-school sports, which have been in place long before I was born lar! So there is a difference there. ;)
作者: 已刪除用戶 時間: 12-2-23 12:00
聖心中學O係南區, 津中, 當然係龍頭學校, 所以入中學競爭黎自4方8面 (仲要考慮交通)
GH中學係同一地點, 直資, 佢點收自己學生我又唔肯定, 但應該有唔少優勢
作者: raymond338hk 時間: 12-2-23 23:03
Is SH better than GH? Please explain the reason. Thank you.
作者: raymond338hk 時間: 12-2-24 22:51
Is SH better than GH? Please explain the reason. Thank you.
作者: iantsing 時間: 12-2-24 23:51
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作者: orsiuping 時間: 12-2-25 03:19
iantsang 發表於 12-2-22 22:38 
(just my personal comments)
I agree the general impression is GH is really strong in sports, but as ...
Thanks for your good sharing.
作者: QQMonkey 時間: 12-2-25 22:55
FYI
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林安琪臨別金句贈德望師妹
至於總亞軍德望亦以兩個Grade的冠軍證明實力。A Grade大師姐林安琪以100、200米金牌、4x100米銀牌告別D1田徑賽。「安琪」感觸稱昨日每次在起跑線上都提醒自己是最後一次，她坦言明年會當觀眾，並贈師妹金句：「搏盡便無悔，成功須苦幹！」
陳綺琪（右）發力在A Grade接力力保銅牌，是女拔奪取總冠軍關鍵。
林安琪最後一日玩D1，難捨難分。
女子團體組
第1名 拔萃女書院（485.5分）
第2名 德望學校（453分）
第3名 協恩中學（285分）
第4名 聖保祿學校（中學部）（166.5分）
註：只列前4名
上一則：喇沙大滿貫師生狂喜
下一則：德望男拔希望在明年
本文連結 : http://orientaldaily.on.cc/cnt/sport/20120225/00286_015.html
作者: ganbatei 時間: 12-2-27 11:03
其實運動邊個強D真係唔係我concern, 我唔會逼個女做運動員,佢有天份有興趣先再算,我比較著重讀書,品格同上小學/中學個比率, anyway,多謝甘多位嘅資料!
作者: iantsing 時間: 12-2-28 18:31
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作者: Ackl1002 時間: 12-2-28 19:26
請問响邊度check倒中學會考成積？學校website嗎？
作者: muibaby 時間: 12-2-28 22:18
I also dont know how to choose between SH and GH. Since we live in Kowloon side and won't consider move to HK, I think we will choose GH.
作者: caca316 時間: 12-2-29 09:54
GH Campus 真係靚D!!!!.......不過其他方面大家是差不多的, 不如比較下兩邊老師的學歷,師資,問下讀緊既人,對老師的comment, 等等.......另外,一家九龍,一家港島,我唸如比較住的地方,大家都應該有答案吧!!!!
作者: raymond338hk 時間: 12-2-29 20:56
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GH的優點, Campus 真係靚D!!!!設施完善,學校的服務亦見細心,而且中學是直資,升中學相對有保障!SH的中學是津貼學校,競爭會十分激烈!
SH的優點,SH 的師生比例為1:9, 優於GH的1:11. 而且SH的老師有55%有超過7年以上的教學經驗,而GH的老師只有41%有超過7年以上的教學經驗. 另外, SH有學卷而GH沒有學卷!
其實GH 和 SH 各有優點,真的很難決擇!
作者: SalasIwak 時間: 12-3-16 16:37
咁話說呢. 我自己個女今年就讀緊K2.
GH俾我既感覺其實幾滿意.
好多時我都會接到班主任電話來講番我聽小朋友上學點時呀點呀咁.
感覺就是好細心. 好多時一講就半個鐘.
最主要都係囡囡返學返得開心. 好多之前唔係幾好既野都改好左.
反而老師既教學經驗個人就唔太關心. 話之你十個博士學位
小朋友咁細個. 最緊要返學既感覺係開開心心. 你要教佢寫論文?
再者呢度既教師我自己去接過幾次小朋友放學. (慚愧....)
我呢D男人老狗睇得出D老師係發自內心咁關心小朋友既
之前未有小朋友果時陪過朋友去某知名幼稚園接小朋友...
小朋友睇唔出... 大人一睇就見到D老師皮笑肉不笑強顏歡笑. 唉.
總覺得而家太多家長諗得多左野.
小學的事. 暫時總覺得想得太多. 小朋友鐘唔鐘意. 到時先諗.
但如由K3昇上去的話. 朋友仔多應不難習慣吧.
都係果句. 硬係要小朋友嬴在起跑線上.
買多D36奶地溝油俾佢地食好了.
免得未來大個冇抗體考試前食錯野入廠錯過左就無謂啦.
作者: siden 時間: 12-3-16 23:01 標題: 引用：咁話說呢.+我自己個女今年就讀緊K2.+GH俾我
原帖由 SalasIwak 於 12-03-16 發表
咁話說呢. 我自己個女今年就讀緊K2.
GH俾我既感覺其實幾滿意.
好多時我都會接到班主任電話來講番我聽小朋 ...
作者: babycoming 時間: 12-3-16 23:43 標題: 回覆：德望 VS 聖心
我女讀緊gh k2了，so far很滿意學校各方面，老師細心有愛心，每星期六的興趣班導師是外請，除了普通話是中學部老師外，外請的老師真的非常好，學校安排得十分方便家長，如一次上幾個興趣班不用家長留守，老師會安排換衫和轉班，校長們可以去慢慢嘆早餐傾計，校內好多自己活動，如教動物會帶小動作和小朋友有小組式接觸及了解，又會請拉面師傅表演給小朋友看，等等的環節，每天有英文堂，但朋友女兒在sh只有一星期三堂，學術上如中文就教嘅程度差不多，2間都是好學校，可能要花點時間了解和生活上那樣配合而選取
作者: Yingcalvin 時間: 12-3-17 00:03
Can you introduce more the course of k2 ? Everyday have homework? What will teach in English that you say everyday have eng lesson?
作者: babycoming 時間: 12-3-17 00:44 標題: 回覆：Yingcalvin 的帖子
有phonics ，但具體我不太清楚，今天女兒回來讀了一大段英語，是個故事，中文有句子式的！英文寫a cat a dog a sheep 等。如相對kv那些校就比較淺但啱年齡讀，幼稚園不谷，興趣班有芭蕾舞，英文，普通話，畫班和游泳，游泳就需要自己和小朋友換衫的其他的就老師代勞
作者: babycoming 時間: 12-3-17 00:52 標題: 回覆：德望 VS 聖心
每星期三校內有才藝表達，小朋友每人都有機會上台單獨或團體上堂表演給所有小朋友和老師看，學校也有邀請舞蹈表演者，狗醫生等等的來學校與小朋友見面和表演，這也是很難得的，品德上也教得非常好
作者: Yingcalvin 時間: 12-3-17 20:56
Thanks! I am 插班生k2 on coming sept. thanks your information! 直升小機會大嗎？
作者: babycoming 時間: 12-3-18 00:55 標題: 引用：Thanks!++I+am+插班生k2+on+coming++sept.+
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Thanks! I am 插班生k2 on coming sept. thanks your information! 直升小機會大嗎？
作者: marwai_1030 時間: 12-3-18 06:04 標題: 回覆：babycoming 的帖子
聖心的確有幼稚園部學生未能升上小學部，當中有些原因大家又知道嗎?
學生有些特別問題未能應付小學部要求。
家長能否配合學校要求，都是考慮因素。
試從另一方面看，如果小朋友的能力未能應付該校的要求，就算學校肯給予學位，你和小朋友都感到吃力，因此而破壞親子關係會更甚，小朋友自信心下降而無心向學，結果惡性循環，何必呢?
作者: iantsang 時間: 12-3-18 11:04
marwai_1030 發表於 12-3-18 06:04
聖心的確有幼稚園部學生未能升上小學部，當中有些原因大家又知道嗎?
學生有些特別問題未能應付小學部要求。 ...
HI marwai_1030,
Actually last year was the first year that they begin not to offer 100% guarantee to all students due to the larger kindergarten student base so do you know the student who couldn't promote to P1? Last year, I helped all those parents who come to seek for help and turned out, there were offers to them but some of them have eventually given up the chance as they settle with other school.
As I remember there was once a rumor one student was told she will definitely won't be offered. Unfortunately with much efforts, we cannot locate that student and help to understand better the case.
For the case of this year, there are still almost half year before school start. In fact I am very confident everyone who like to be remain here, will be able to done so.
Don't forget there are two sections of primary school. Even what you have described is true (though I never heard of it before) for the private section with higher expectation, the gov't aided section will always welcome students from its own kindergarten.
Ian
作者: andrewchiu 時間: 12-3-18 12:33
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Hi, Ian,as far as i know, the no. of k1 classes of SH for the next academic year will less than before, 1 class being cut. does it mean it will be more easy for SH kinder students promoting to SH primary ? Thanks!
作者: A1andA2 時間: 12-3-18 13:13
個人較喜愛GH 
作者: iantsang 時間: 12-3-18 21:51
andrewchiu 發表於 12-3-18 12:33
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Hi, Ian,as far as i know, the no. of k1 classes of SH for the next academic ye ...
Hi andrewchiu,
Thanks for bringing up a question that would enlighten many parents while they consider the chance of admitting to related primary school.
The interesting fact about SHCK is that the registered number of classroom is 10. So, the 1 class was not exactly cut but simply they were promoted to the next year and still occupying that additional classroom only. Similarly, the registered number of classroom of the private primary section is 20.
For the ease of understanding, let me try to illustrate the situation below of the so-called 6-year cycle of SH kinder to private primary school:
2008/09 SHCK K1 8 classes --> promote to 2010/11 K3 --> SHCSPS 2011/12 P1 3 classes
(approx. 220+ girls for 110+ P1 seats) * The most difficult to manage year which happened last year
2009/10 SHCK K1 6 classes --> promote to 2011/12 K3 --> SHCSPS 2012/13 P1 3 classes
(approx. 170 girls for 110+ P1 seats)
2010/11 SHCK K1 6 classes --> promote to 2012/13 K3 --> SHCSPS 2013/14 P1 4 classes
(approx. 170 girls for 150+ P1 seats) * The easiest year to enter private primary school
2011/12 SHCK K1 8 classes --> promote to 2013/14 K3 --> SHCSPS 2014/15 P1 4 classes
(approx. 220+ girls for 150+ P1 seats)
2012/13 SHCK K1 6 classes --> promote to 2014/15 K3 --> SHCSPS 2015/16 P1 3 classes
(approx. 170 girls for 110+ P1 seats)
2013/14 SHCK K1 6 classes --> promote to 2015/16 K3 --> SHCSPS 2016/17 P1 3 classes
(approx. 170 girls for 110+ P1 seats)
then the same 6-year pattern will repeat.
e.g. the 2011 born girls will need to take note of:
2014/15 SHCK K1 8 classes --> promote to 2016/17 K3 --> SHCSPS 2017/18 P1 3 classes
(approx. 220+ girls for 110+ P1 seats) * The most difficult to manage year which happened last year
The above factual information are available thru www.chsc.hk and the school websites. There are no secrets but efforts are required to understand them.
Facts to note for the past 3 years was:
(1) Less than half of kindergarten students will choose to eventually return to private primary school;
(2) Approx. half of the gov't aided primary school students are from SHCK (around 70-80).
So to answer your question, it will depends on which year the girl will be entering the kindergarten to know the chance. Honestly, I have only seen parents give up waiting rather than a kid not being able to offer the seat.
I hope the above information are useful.
Similar situation arise for GH as the first year as their kindergarten re-open, with the great demand of K1 they have opened extra class for K1 while there were (if I remember correctly) 1 less class of K3. So, the P1 promotion last year was for 150 girls. For the current year, it is 180 girls and for the current K2 girls, there will be 210 girls.
GH has a much bigger private primary class structure with 5 classes each and their students per class are relatively higher. So, for the consideration of seats available, they would have over 200 seats in P1 each year and it would be no difficulty if the preferences are given to all own kindergarten students. For the year with the 7 classes of K1 which will be promoting to P1 in 2013/14 P1, the difficulty will increase compare to the two previous years.
Ian
作者: andrewchiu 時間: 12-3-19 00:25
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thanks so much for your detailed explanation
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