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作者: Rickylama 時間: 12-2-20 19:34 標題: 點解唔收？
似乎幼稚園收生就在計分，住址，宗教，世襲，只不過加上出生日期，大仔大女機會大些，真難為一些沒條件的小朋友，面試有表現也會食白果。
作者: behappydad 時間: 12-2-20 20:43
算吧
接受現實
努力向前
作者: spmok1999 時間: 12-2-20 20:47
報多幾間, 總有一D會o岩眼緣的, 再唔係等揀完揀剩空返D位出o黎咪一樣有機, 始終都會有書讀o既!
作者: lovelinda 時間: 12-2-20 20:49
唔好灰心! 加油! 
作者: ronniedad 時間: 12-2-20 21:21
呢個只係一小部份的學位問題啫, 唔好太過負面吧. 多D正面思想啦.
作者: Macylau 時間: 12-2-20 22:01
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容許我好灰講句，呢個世界冇絶對公平！只好幫自己小朋友apply多幾間
作者: simsimwong 時間: 12-2-20 22:20
我個女答晒䦓題都reject,其他小朋友乜都唔讲都有offer!你㨂人，人揀你，冇法！
作者: iantsing 時間: 12-2-20 22:25
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作者: ILOVEBEAN 時間: 12-2-20 22:45
I keep my fingers crossed for you.
作者: LeeLee2007 時間: 12-2-21 00:51
No need to think too much. Improving the skills to train yr kid to a polite and beloved child is the top of the list.
God will hear the prayer! Good luck!
作者: Rickylama 時間: 12-2-21 01:01
很倦，替我的八月B試了一打幼稚園，有些表現好連備取也沒有，學校主觀地選教友和大B，這便是傳教！有神父修女或教職人員推薦信便優先，根本便是私相授受，多麼黑暗！
作者: yenyenBB 時間: 12-2-21 01:04 標題: 回覆：點解唔收？
Agree 
我個小朋友都係大仔，樣樣都有問有答，都唔係間間會收。
放心啦，總有一間幼稚園會收。
問題係唔係你心儀果間。
Don't worry!
作者: 5162002 時間: 12-2-21 01:21
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作者: gwlam 時間: 12-2-21 01:22 標題: 回覆：Rickylama 的帖子
其實又好難怪學校，佢收教友+舊生子女先可以ensure到lee批學生夠分上佢嘅津小
作者: sunnygirl 時間: 12-2-21 06:52 標題: 回覆：點解唔收？
作者: Gerard 時間: 12-2-21 08:08 標題: 回覆：Rickylama 的帖子
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作者: Rickylama 時間: 12-2-21 08:22 標題: 回覆：Rickylama 的帖子
很多很好的天主教及基督教幼稚園，很努力去試，也不希望替女兒選信仰，要領洗也不難，但父母也沒信仰，絕不假腥腥去討好幼稚園。或者一開始便應剔走教會幼稚園，有點浪費精神心力。無論最後或許未能入心儀幼稚園，待小學收生下半場再抽好小學吧！
作者: Rickylama 時間: 12-2-21 08:33 標題: 回覆：5162002 的帖子
我朋友話某幼稚園及小學（非龍非同名）已收他女兒，她才一歲多。
作者: stinkyrabbit111 時間: 12-2-21 08:35
don't be sad...我好明白你的感受, i was in the same boat last year and the year before because my girl is a Dec girl (we applied k1 2 years in a row)..during some of our very fond kg's interviews, she answered all/most questions & being polite, got rejected..not even waiting..
我當時都有問點解, 不過我知道不是囡囡不夠好, 只不過太多competition, 也因為時機未到, 天父可能有更suitable的choice比囡囡..
you have to understand this whole process of interview/application, there are really a lot of things we cannot control as parent..we just have to learn to let go...the most important thing is we (parent & kid) had tried our best and should have no regret!
remember this is just the beginning..regarding our kids, i am sure there will be lots and lots of occasion we will ask 點解in the near future..希望你也可以快快釋懷, 快快回復心情!
作者: Rickylama 時間: 12-2-21 09:19 標題: 回覆：Rickylama 的帖子
不選教會幼稚園，就似去超市但不揀百X、惠X ，更難找龍校。
作者: Gerard 時間: 12-2-21 09:51 標題: 回覆：Rickylama 的帖子
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作者: myfanwy 時間: 12-2-21 09:53
講真，如果學校喜收有宗教背景的小朋友，就唔好見其他"百無"的小朋友啦，又要迫成個鍾頭先見到老師，又問得兩條好似好深的問題，但最終小朋友答到又唔係收，真係失望。
作者: Gerard 時間: 12-2-21 10:00 標題: 引用：講真，如果學校喜收有宗教背景的小朋友，就
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作者: meia 時間: 12-2-21 10:12
我大女, 11月出世, 講野好叻,.....但當年只有一間收
我細女, 1月出世, 諗住冇死...奌知全部waiting. (而家仲wait緊) 因為佢唔講野
其中一間, 個老師話好希望可以教我個女, 好like佢, 咪又係wait
我地係天主教家庭, 唔feel 到有任何優惠
可能如果同分, 會优先, 但相信會係表現行先,
其实, 每間學校都有所謂的校長位, 主任位, 好多時都會有人靠關係入到
諗深一層, 做野咪一樣, 間間公司都有一個半個"皇親國戚"
放開d , 我地呢d百無, 一樣咁過
一定有書讀的, 而且, 天主將會把最好的給每一個小朋友
作者: trabb 時間: 12-2-21 10:18 標題: 回覆：點解唔收？
天上總會安排我們的子女，入讀適合他們的學校。放開啲
作者: caca316 時間: 12-2-21 10:19
如果表現好，百無都收你！！加油！！再戰小學！！！用以下的時間，開開心心同孩子享受學習過程，幫佢發揮得最好已是Good Job!!!
作者: yushbaby123 時間: 12-2-21 10:23
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Hello,
We are also as the same boat....
My daughter is a 2009 Mar. Big girl, answer all questions duing all interviews, but got no offer until now.
I saw some kids no answers, but got so many offers on hand, the feeling is not good and hope their mama will release those seats to those needs (which is us).
I also feel depressed but just prepare the worst: stay at the same school to study.
Dont give up, we need to cheer up for others!
作者: Yipapa 時間: 12-2-21 11:59
Don't be frustrated, let's move on, and think positively.
Sibling relation, living location, alumni history, religion status or even person connections are indeed the official factors that are counted during primary school admission process.
Well, whether any these factors apply to Kindergarten admission, it is sometime a mystery and we can't actually understand entirely. Knowing the criteria may only give you some excuse to relieve when your admired KG has given you a waiting or rejected offer irrespective of how good the interview performances your kids did.
As some parents said, Kindergarten is just the beginning of the game. Trust if we work hard to nourish our kids with the correct ingredients, then many years later when the kids are graduated from University, no one will care about which kindergarten they were studied before. BTW, how often you are asked which kindergarten you are graduated from?
I am a father of a girl with none of advantages I have mentioned above. During the last 3 years interviews, including 1 in PN and 2 time in K1 (young/ old children), I have received 21 waiting and reject offers (probably become 22 later). Each letter was a disappointment, but each letter was also a stimulus and reminder for me that I may have to work harder for our kids
Best regards to all the HK kids, they are all living in a cruel education system, and we parents have the responsibiliy to change it to a better one.
作者: HazelMother 時間: 12-2-21 12:37
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作者: sweeticandy 時間: 12-2-21 13:50
我仲係白果緊.....
我個女係4月BB.. 識答晒9成以上既問題...
連.WAITING 都無... 好心傷....
作者: HazelMother 時間: 12-2-21 13:53
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作者: ILOVEBEAN 時間: 12-2-21 14:04
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唔好睇得咁灰啦 ! 我相信我吔細路成長路上努力所學到的一生受用, 無人可以攞走.
我吔作為家長都耍樂觀啲面對不順意的事情(一生可奇多呀!)咁我吔啲子女先會正面積極. 加油加油 !!!
作者: Yipapa 時間: 12-2-21 14:08
I hust read a column today, just want to share
http://www.hket.com/eti/article/ ... 8%E7%95%B6%E4%B8%8B,P
共勉之,
Best regards to all worrying parents
作者: HazelMother 時間: 12-2-21 14:12
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作者: sheffield 時間: 12-2-21 14:20
本帖最後由 sheffield 於 12-2-21 14:23 編輯
rickylama，知你很好失望，但沒什麼可以幫到你，只希望你小朋友可以找到一間適合她的學校…
說到點解唔收？這對於家長來說，永遠都是一個迷！
考智慧？考應對能力？考獨立性？考眼緣？考性格？考禮貌？考家長？
我成日都會諗，唔同老師見唔同學生，大家的標準又有可能會有偏差，大家對小朋友的感覺又不同…到底係你見的好或是我見的好一點？如學位有100個，是每個老師見的為一個batch，每個batch選10個，揍夠100個就啱啱？或是每個小朋友都有一個分，見晒後就排分數，最高的100個就入？如是前者，成個batch的小朋友都好叻的，咁就算答晒都未必有著落，如好彩，個batch的小朋友較弱，又喊又唔講野，咁就唔識答但唔喊都有offer。如是後者，分分鐘同分的小朋友都有200個，咁又係咪抽簽？我舉的例可能有少少極端，但事實我地真係唔知學校點揀…如我們自己肯定自己小朋友己做得很好，還是冇offer的就只是欠了運！會失望，但也沒辦法，人就係咁，實力要有，運氣更是不可決…
作者: littlecook 時間: 12-2-21 15:51
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有人以為信教好D,我又覺唔一定喎!我家係基督教,囡囡今年考K,好多教會學校一樣唔收.
或者要信教得嚟仲要識教會高層,有封重要人士推薦信先有機吧?
睇埋有無兄姐讀緊?我大果個讀緊果間,都無收細呢個!
最好有個全職媽媽吧?我都係,但唔見有優勢,可能爸爸唔係專業人士吧?
又有人話睇眼緣,但我B算係好可愛果種(大家唔好笑我自大吧!),有几間老師都顯得好鐘意佢,結果係連WAITING都無!
講聰明講野叻啦,我B都算講野叻學野快果種,又有兩間老師IN完都話佢好叻,結果就係WAITING.
今年經驗係,見得好好既,好彩會有WAITING,見得普通既,一定REJECT.無被選中原因可能好多,但相信超細B係最主要原因之一吧!另外,當然就係今年競爭大啦!几千人去考,樣樣都100分既大有人在!
我已經睇化啦,唔會怪D咩,唔會唔開心!
幸好我B已有學校收,雖唔係一線,唔係最心儀既,但我已經感覺難得啦!
依家再向心儀既叩門!有就好,無都接受現實啦!
日子流流長,前面仲有更大挑戰!只想早D幫考幼稚園呢單野CLOSE FILE!好快又到大既考小學啦!
作者: meia 時間: 12-2-21 17:19
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其實今年真係多人考
當年我個大女把口叻到不得了
但因為佢11月出世, 得一間係九龍塘的收,考小一就更辛苦
到今年細女
佢一月的, 但係陌生人面前, 同啞的係冇分別, 全部waiting /reject
如果好似有d人講, 淨收教友, 我使mut咁煩
所以, 只好慢慢來~~
大家加油
作者: 天使南 時間: 12-2-21 18:35 標題: 回覆：simsimwong 的帖子
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作者: 天使南 時間: 12-2-21 18:36 標題: 回覆：simsimwong 的帖子
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作者: bigheadchiu 時間: 12-2-21 19:47 標題: 回覆：點解唔收？
好多家長唔得時都覺得係學校唔公平，得嘅家長會覺得係自己加小朋友努力的成果。。。事實係點永遠係一個迷。家長也不能控制。罵學校也沒用。
自己和小朋友盡力便ok了。
作者: Rickylama 時間: 12-2-21 22:03 標題: 回覆：Rickylama 的帖子
買唔到樓就話「地產霸權」，入唔到幼稚園可否稱為「宗教霸權」？
留一半左右的位給教徒，一些給友好，一些給舊生仔女，有剩就俾表現好的小朋友，當然大仔大女好教一點。
開始明白小學收生半數抽獎靠地址的好處；將來又要搬去好小學校網靠運氣去抽，計分的上半場就冇得爭。
香港的教育制度實在令人失望。
作者: yaulinda 時間: 12-2-21 22:08 標題: 回覆：點解唔收？
我都是in得好好，以為有點機會，可是連機會都無，是rejected！但是我知道只可接受賽果和尊重對方判斷，否則太介意的話，一定會激到百病纏身
作者: littlecook 時間: 12-2-21 22:35
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meia,
家有細B,真係煩惱!叻既仲煩,REPEAT又未必合適!
如果我細B資質一般,我諗簡單D,出年再嚟過!
依家佢又OK喎,雖然唔係樣樣都比得上大B中B!而且又叫做有OK既學校收!
你大囡今年考小一嗎?情況如何呀?
自行你地都應該有宗教分呀!
作者: Rickylama 時間: 12-2-21 22:42 標題: 回覆：yaulinda 的帖子
真要量力而為，入教會名龍校真難，可在EK訴苦也釋懷了一點，讀那一間幼稚園小朋友也一定開心，報小學又可抽獎，放輕鬆吧！
作者: LeeLee2007 時間: 12-2-28 02:30
This is a very touching post, thanks all parents for the positive energy that is shared.
I never know interview is so hard, as I was thinking my girl is big girl ( I purposely skipped the interview slot last yr ) and we are catholic and live in HK Island (heard from fd all are very important criteria for school application) . And, here are the things happened - I got the first waiting letter from PB (a kindergarten that my fd said is very easy to get in). Then, my alarm rang. From that day on, I used diff methods to sharpen her. In the 2nd interview school - Rosyhill (she did very gd that day) we still got waiting. Felt "helpless" but kept on "upgrading" my method to train her, and finally I found the "button" to let her perform (and now I believe all kid has a "button"). But, God made the task to be even more difficult for me, she was sick, recovered & sick again for that month or 2; whenever there was interview, she would get high fever that night before. At St Margaret 's door, she was still 38.5c but she insisted she had to go, and she even told me "I will do good". The "classic" was at TL, teacher asked her question, she was actually "dizzy" and answered all but response time was 10- 15 sec after question was asked. After all interview, she is now a more polite and obedient kid. It also trained me up of how to nuture her.
My girl got into St Margaret PM (that is my third best choice in my mind) and Good Hope AM (my second best choice). And my best choice, SPK is "dreaming" for the result that will release soon.
Think positive, work hard towards the goal you want to achieve, put all those things you cant control aside (like the things you think is unfair....) I very much argee a parent (in this post) said your child can feel your positive energy; and another parent said all the things that the kid has learned is never a waste, it is very remarkable to her development indeed. And one day, what you are asking for will come to reality.
There is still chance in May/June for waiting offer. Keep up!
God blessed!
作者: Yipapa 時間: 12-2-28 10:34
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BTW, can you share the "Button" that your found...cheers
作者: fatalbug 時間: 12-2-28 10:46
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作者: zoewong426 時間: 12-2-28 10:55
Luckily, my daughter's "button" was turned on at her first TL interview. She just love cooking game very much, after TL (Caine Rd) interview, she was allowed to stay at the school's outdoor and indoor playground for an unlimited time. She played the cooking game with other children and enjoyed so much. Also, I told her if she answered teacher's questions and performed well, she would get an Ocean Park/Disneyland ticket for bonus from the teacher (actually I have bought the tickets already). Surely I pretended that the teacher really gave us tickets for her well performance, and from that day onwards, she loved to go to interview. Even after the last interview at SPK, sometimes she would tell me she wanted to go to interview. I don't know if my method is right or wrong, anyway, I have turned on her "button" and she could perform differently. I think her "button" is related to her favourite activities, my girl's are cooking game and playing in the 2 Parks.
作者: 朱寶媽媽 時間: 12-2-28 11:30
Rickylama 發表於 12-2-20 19:34 
似乎幼稚園收生就在計分，住址，宗教，世襲，只不過加上出生日期，大仔大女機會大些，真難為一些沒條件的小 ...
作者: Yipapa 時間: 12-2-28 13:57
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For KG admission, whether same religion will count or not, it is total up to the KG's policy
For P1 admission on, if the parents are working in the same school, basically it shall be straight in, unless it is a school of DSS or private schools not Govt or aided one
Living location and religion will become crucial on the P1 Discretionary Places admission stage (B).
But whether you can get the region points will up to the interpretation of the school you are applying for.
I know that for some Christian schools, they may only count for the same church you are being baptised, this 5 point may be difficult to get.
Of course Luck is equally important in Central allocation stage, but this is not a factor we can take control of
作者: LeeLee2007 時間: 12-2-29 02:06
Yipapa 發表於 12-2-28 10:34
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BTW, can you share the "Button" that your found...cheers
It is hard to explain.
My girl's passion towards Disney ticket only makes her "bling bling" eyes for 15 sec (as we hv annual pass)
Kid these days is over-supplied of toys/dress/etc (she is the first kid in my hubby's family tree, thus.....)
I can only say, everytime when I "train/play" with her for interview preparation, she really enjoys.
And after all interviews, she still asked me to play interview with her.
All kids are different, try to explore the "button" of him/her
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