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作者: bbmama100 時間: 12-2-19 01:51 標題: Boxhill MOS & ESF WKS 讀邊間好?
我女兒今年８月將會讀K1,是細女很怕陌生人,我的target 是將來考RC。想請問吓Boxhill 的家長:你們子女番学開心嗎?你們對學校的評價如何,考入RC的机会大嗎?亦想請問吓ESF WKS 的家長,老師有愛心嗎?我女兒很怕醜，這裏適合她嗎?對於考RC,有無guarantee?
作者: Happy2009 時間: 12-2-21 11:28
I want to know too. Any guarantee to RC?
My son is now in Boxhill MOS pre-nursery. Personally I think it is a good school, everything systematic, teachers are nice and good. My son enjoys Boxhill MOS very much.
My first priority is also RC. Since I heard it is not 100% gurantee to be admitted to RC, I am still thinking if I should let my son continue K1 in Boxhill MOS. My son also got admission to K1 the coming Sept at Creative Primary School's KG which is 100% guarantee to Creative Primary School (an IB school also). But my first priority is still RC. What should I choose? Boxhill MOS or CPSKG. Any advice please? Many thanks.
作者: cowebi 時間: 12-2-21 12:04 標題: 回覆：Boxhill MOS & ESF WKS 讀邊間好?
我都煩緊同一個問題。
作者: bbmama100 時間: 12-2-22 22:02
Happy2009 發表於 12-2-21 11:28 
I want to know too. Any guarantee to RC?
My son is now in Boxhill MOS pre-nursery. Personally I t ...
I have heard Creative Primary School's KG which was also a good choice as both English & Chinese as well as the teacher were good. This is a good choice as it has 100% guarantee to its primary school.
作者: bleushow 時間: 12-2-24 21:24
i also considered creative kinder before because of guaranteed primary. but i recall their primary is a chi n not ib. only secondary (eng) is ib. a bit concern on the primary school eng standard. pls check it out if this is still the case now.
作者: Max1130 時間: 12-3-1 17:51
My son and my daughter are both study at Boxhill K2 and Nursery. I can only said my son got interviewed with RC this year but didn't get offer a place. RC Claimed that both Boxhill and ESF don't have any connection with them, and based on the result and it seems that they did offer places for those who did well during the interview. this year around 1500 applicants, only 700 got interview, and around 150 offers, and a lot waiting list.
作者: cowebi 時間: 12-3-5 11:35
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Hi Max1130, thanks for your information. My kid is now studying in Boxhill FoTan Nursery class and just got the K1 offer from ESF WKS. I discussed the K1 issue with the headmistress recently. She is so nice that to share her information with me openly. Originally I decided to move to ESF in K1 but after I talked with her and searched the information on this forum and school websites. I think I'd better keep my son in Boxhill .... The main thing is because it seems that studying in ESF kindy doesn't have any advantage when applying RC and RC only concern the interview performance. Also, I like boxhill. It's really a good school.
作者: winnietingting 時間: 12-3-22 10:37
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Max1130 發表於 12-3-1 17:51 
My son and my daughter are both study at Boxhill K2 and Nursery. I can only said my son got intervie ...
The chance to RC is so slim (only 10%)!!! Then, which primary school will Boxhill student take most? Thanks a lot.
作者: vinvillalee 時間: 12-3-22 16:40
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Yes. Miss Iris also discuss w/ me about the current situation. I also like Boxhill so much! However, since it is more competitive in RC recently, my son will change to study another IS kindergarten which has primary school.
作者: winnietingting 時間: 12-3-22 22:25 標題: 引用：回復+cowebi+的帖子
Yes.+Miss+Iris+also+
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Yes. Miss Iris also discuss w/ me about the current situation. I also like Boxhi ...
謝謝。
作者: vinvillalee 時間: 12-3-23 12:15
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My boy will change to study NIS
作者: jgt 時間: 12-4-22 16:46
So is that mean the teacher at WKS are not nice? I've read from the msg here and most of them are saying the teacher are not nice and they dont care much about the kids?
作者: tomintoul 時間: 12-4-23 08:08
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作者: jgt 時間: 12-4-24 23:45
So ESF WKS is not a good kinda?
作者: yuenru 時間: 12-5-1 00:01
My daughter and my son are in MOS boxhill now. Before WKS school was founded, it's almost 100% in-take from box hill to RC. However, with WKS as well as the increasing number of applicants this year, the rate has dropped to 70%. Mrs. King said that it's hard to predict as of this point.
I attended the RC parents session and I remember they said that RC will not have preference over ESF as this is a private individual school.
I also have friends who are in WKS but also didn't get into any ESF Primary school. My point is that there is no guarantee or relatively higher chances for RC these days.
I would suggest you to think about the contingency in case your kid doesn't get into international school. The key reason why we decided to stay in Boxhill is that it does offer Chinese language and K3. In case we didn't get into RC, we have a backup. (which is what happening right now)
作者: ivvywong 時間: 12-5-3 09:36
yuenru, how do you see the Chinese language teaching at Boxhill? My daughter will attend their nursery class in the coming August and I am actually not aiming at international primary schools in the meantime, do you think their chinese teaching is sufficient for a child to attend local primary schools?
作者: kcvtsai 時間: 12-5-3 17:34
I think as there are more kids / Bs in the coming years and there will be more competitions. So, don't think there are any guarantees as to what KG they goto will have a higher chance of getting into ESF / RC. For RC, I think it largely depends on your kids' performance during the interview and for ESF... if you are CAT 2, maybe more due to luck / chances (even if your kid has high standards of English).... Like what others have already said... better to have contingency plans....
作者: mienmien 時間: 12-5-10 00:54
My son is in Mos Boxhill K3 this year. We turned down the offer of ESF Wks when he was K1 considering the back up in case he didn't get any offer from RC. This year, I can see that the Chinese teachers put in a lot of effort in brushing the children's Chinese though the standard is yet to be comparable, I must agree that the chinese standard is pretty high. I was quite surprised by that when I saw his homework recently. For parents aiming at RC, I think you needn't compare too much against Wks for the past 2 years cos this is a pretty new school n there weren't that many cat 1 kids when it launched n most of the kids were local. They went in at age of K2 still given a chance to interview which is unusual for ESF. That's why only around 60+% of the kids from Wks were accepted that year. A very low % indeed. it got slightly better last year n it didn't really affect the situation in box hill. This year should really be the year for comparison. Category doesn't really affect that much in RC cos they take in around 70% locals if I am still updated.
作者: PiyoC 時間: 12-5-11 17:01
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My son is also going to MOS BH this year but I have another offer in MOS Greenfield which will start the registration before end-May. So I need to make the decision shortly.
When you say chinese, are they teaching "Traditional Chinese" or "SimpleChinese" and the spoken chinese is Mandarin or Cantonese?
Can you also advise the proportion of Chinese and English lesson each day in terms of no. of hours? I understand in N1, each week would have two days having Mandarin or Cantonese learning time.
In K1-K3, do all the students study in PM classes? I was given a PM offer but I really want to transfer to AM.
作者: Littlexbb 時間: 12-5-14 14:50
If I have twins, do you think is it possible for RC to accept both of them? Should I apply seperately? Or maybe they will turn down both of them. My twins will go to Boxhill MOS this August.
作者: crazy_ho 時間: 12-5-22 13:02
My son will start nursery in MOS Boxhill this year and I am also planning to put him in RC. However, the competition of international schools are so keen that even foreigners' children are not admitted to schools like RC or DBIS. you need to be lucky to have the chance to be interviewed and need to perform well in the interview to be admitted.
作者: crazy_ho 時間: 12-5-22 13:06
Comparing Boxhill and ESF, I will choose Boxhill. ESF kinder will stop in K2. If the child is not admitted into the IB system, you need to find him/her another school for K3, which would be quite difficult to find a school you want and ends up putting the child into any kinder that has vacancy.
作者: abebepang 時間: 12-5-22 16:41
If not offer from ESF / RC, where will the boxhill graduates go ??? Which IS ?
作者: mienmien 時間: 12-5-23 19:51
PiyoC, the Chinese in Boxhill is traditional chinese n they have both pth n Cantonese lesson in school. There is 1 Chinese lesson daily which last about 1/2 hr n pth that last abt 15 mins beginning with K2 if I remembered correctly.
I am not sure of the sessions but u can request to switch to the morning class when he is K1. It all depends on availability but definitely you will be in the afternoon for K3 class.
作者: mienmien 時間: 12-5-23 19:54
Littlexbb, I knew someone with twins n both were accepted by RC last year but of cos there are siblings not accepted. I think it all depends on the interview.
作者: Tami 時間: 12-5-24 10:07
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My boy is in PN class and we decide to stay for K1 because he is adapting well and has happy school lift. We not target international stream but local DSS, my elder girl is in P.1 of a competitive English DSS hopefully may has some advantage when my son apply. My experience told me that early start of chinese learning will be much benefit for local P.1 curriculum, we neglected chinese in my elder daughter's kinder life, even though she is excellent in Eng but chinese level is not as local kinder. In conclusion, we shall keep our little boy in BH and addition private chinese tutor start from end of K1 or early K2.
作者: abebepang 時間: 12-5-24 14:14
For Boxhill nursery ( not K1 ) , did they teach Cantonese/ Chinese ?
How many kids per class ?
作者: PiyoC 時間: 12-5-24 17:07
in N1, they have 20mins Chinese lesson each day. 3 days in Cantonese, 2 days in PTH.
Remember they told us 2x each class.
作者: yuenru 時間: 12-5-30 17:30
PiyoC ,
BH is teaching Chinese traditional Chinese. BH has both Madarin and Cantonese lesson rotates each ady. toward K3, they are more focus on Cantonese rather Mandarin. If you are aiming for RC, they are also teaching traditonal Chinese. so writing wise it's not an issue. Speaking wise, you may want to put more emphasis on Mandarin.
ivvywong
If you are not really aiming for international schoo, then I personally don't recommend you for BH because
1. Although the chinese is getting more difficult, but when you compare with famous local chinese kinder, it's still behind.
2. BH is a happy school which less strict on discipline and less homework, if you do aim for local school in Primary, then your kid or you might find it difficult to adjust.
3. In term of information sharing on applying local schools, BH isn't that proactive as well as informative. I have spoken to Mrs. King (MOS BH principal) how to improve it. But don't think it will happen for a while.
作者: xx33 時間: 12-5-31 03:37
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作者: misskwokwok 時間: 12-5-31 09:19
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Hixx33, may i know the percentage of the hitted rate for RC this year? Knowing from you, 100% got interview from RC, how was that result? Thank you so much! Many thx.
作者: PiyoC 時間: 12-5-31 15:20
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I am curious to know why it is easier to get into RC than ESF primiary?Aren't they both under ESF organisation?
If BH's students do not target in RC or international, where did they go finally? seems not many parents here talked about the P1 allocation results in BH.
作者: vinvillalee 時間: 12-5-31 16:17
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If you all wants to know more about RC, I suggest you joined their school tour.
作者: vinvillalee 時間: 12-5-31 16:19
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It is because ESF primary school has Cat 1 Cat 2 system but RC doesn't.
作者: yuenru 時間: 12-5-31 17:11
As a BH parent, I disagreed that BH is not targetting for international school. in the recent K2, we got almost more than half of them applied internation schools (RC, ESF, Anfield etc). In the past two years, there are about 3 classes of K2 and only down to 1 class of K3 by the time they reach to K3. This year, RC specifically, there was about 30+ applicants from BH applying for RC, around 26 get into RC. The percentrage is around 70%. Of course, when you compare with the previous year, the number does get dropped. But when you compare the numbers of applicants vs WKS kinders, of course the total numbers of applicants is relatively smaller.
Having said that, instead of looking to the higher chance to get into RC or what other int'l school you want to, the debate I had is
a) How much Chinese language you want your kids have.
b) What IF my kid don't get into ESF or anyone of the internatinoal school, what other options that I have. I had the same struggle as most of you before. the only thing I cannot give up is the Chinese language which I want them to study.
Just my 2cents.
作者: mienmien 時間: 12-6-2 18:14
PiyoC, most Kids from BH target RC. I agree that when RC seems easier than Esf, it would be due to the category issue. 70% of RC students had to be from family of Hk resident. However, you will not be accepted if your English language ability is below expectation. As for Sjs, they need to set priority to Esf kinder applicants and also cat 1 applicants.
As for where would the remaining students of BH go to after K3, I think it is fair to comprehend that BH has no advantage over local or dss schools. This is an intl kinder n they don't aim to train you for those local school interviews unlike preparations for interview at RC or ESf. That's my feeling. Students just apply at their own expense.
作者: xx33 時間: 12-6-3 00:22
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作者: misskwokwok 時間: 12-6-5 08:17
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Hi xx33,
It seems a very high hit rate last year and a big drop this year, can you find out something that causes the low hit rate this year?? How was the wks students level? Are they really below the entrance requirement? If not what sort of thing that caused the result? Can the wks students speak fluently in English then? Does any of them are sliblings of RC?
Seems a bit worry for me.
Many many many thanks.
作者: PiyoC 時間: 12-6-5 16:37
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This is what I am concerning about, as your son is now in MOS BH K3, can you advise what kind of P1 you are now aiming at for your son?
If the competition is getting higher and the levy & tuition fee are rising so much, I am worried that the situation would only be even very crazy by the time my son finishes K2 3 years after.
Just one practical question, I saw the school calendar of BH and surprised to see they have got 15 school holidays a year (not including public holidays). Is it normal in kindergarten? I can't find the same in other KGs! As the expected monthly school fee would be approaching to $5k, counted the holidays. It is quite expensive.
作者: c200 時間: 12-6-5 17:38
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because both ESF and BH have Half term break, this is very common in IS....
作者: yuenru 時間: 12-6-5 19:12
misskwokwok ,
Honestly, please do not forget that the baby boom has started since last year. both WFS and BH both have a big drop in term of successful rate. I think it's simply because of the sudden increase of applicant. According to Mrs. King in BH, the no. of applicants in RC back in 2011 was only 300, but this year, they got up to 800 applicants. RC has said that this is the record high for them.
Honestly, the competition is keen. All I can say is that face the reality and prepare the best of your kid.
作者: yuenru 時間: 12-6-5 19:18
PiyoC ,
Honestly, BH is not expensive relatively to other private schools. dont' forget that this charges involve books , snacks. My friends in local schools are paying less like 35xx but it costs them alot on charges like books, birthday parties and even school bus fees.
My view is that we all spending close to 6000 -8000 dollars on each kinder garten these days given that we all want to build up their portfolio somewhat. what it means is that one could spend 5xxx on BH but take lesss English classes compare with local school kid spend 3xxx on school tuition but expensive english lesson. When i speak to my friends, I realize that we all somehow spending around the same in total amount. It just a matter how you want to distribute the money.
作者: PiyoC 時間: 12-6-5 22:15
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yes, Mrs King did say we can save money from taking external English class and enroll their interest classes instead. I also admit that BH is good for not having any miscellaneous cost while other KG in Kln Tong can cost 2.8k a year.
I am just thinking if they have so many holidays in a school year, it would be difficult for us to arrange our annual leave to accompany with him during his holidays. Perhaps at the end we have to leave him to grandmother or helper alone which is not ideal indeed.
BTW, many parents said RC only concerns about interview performance. How difficult actually it is? what do they test the children and how long it takes?
I saw your daughter got accepted by Anfield Primary, Mrs King also recommended this one. Will you take this offer? I wonder if we should apply the Anfield KG so that the chance of getting into its Primary is higher as a back up. .
作者: misskwokwok 時間: 12-6-6 09:11
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I thought the no. of application was around 600 the year before.
作者: yuenru 時間: 12-6-6 10:12
PiyoC ,
if your concern is having too much holidays, I think there is a solution to it. since BH holiday schedule align with many other IS schools, there are summer camp/spring camp which you can sign them up during long break. For example, I signed them up for ICS summer course for the July whole month and then there is YMCA wellness camp in WKS in Aug. then it only left them 1 week before school start again. 
While we got accepted by Anfield, we also got CAIS as well. After much consideration, we'll put her in CAIS. Happy to talk more about my thoughts on this.
作者: yuenru 時間: 12-6-6 10:17
and by the way, RC has more holidays than BH too. so it jsut the begining.
作者: PiyoC 時間: 12-6-6 14:09
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Thanks for your suggestion. I don't know there is YMCA summer camp in WKS.
Glad to hear you have final decision on P1. Is your son going to attend the Grade 2 class as you said he is now K3 in BH. I would like to understand more about your thoughts when comparing the different curriculumns. Anfield is offering British National Curriculum which aligns with BH whereas CAIS is under Alberto Curriculumn. I saw it is originated from Canada. Would that limit the future applicaton of Uni in Canada only?
作者: yuenru 時間: 12-6-7 12:08
PiyoC ,
my daughter is in K2 BH right now. She is going to CAIS this Aug and will not stay in BH.
In term of curriculumns, it really depends what is your future education plan. There is no good nor bad in between the curriculumns.I talked to many people regarding UK vs Canda curriculumns, they are both good. It's more depends on whether you want your kids to study in UK related school (Austuralia/UK) or you are closed to North America system.
In term of schools Anfield vs. CAIS, there are the comparions
(A vs C)
1. Cost: 12K HKD per month(include other fees), no debenture vs 8500 HKD per month until 2015. Once the new campus read, 250K HKD for debenture. it's really a matter of cash flow. at the end of the day, they are very closed in term of cost.
2. other:school fees in Anfield include extra activities vs. C treat is as additional cost.
3. UK vs Canda cirruclum
4. Track record: One is up to primary and one has track record up to high school.
5. Reglion: Catholic vs Christian.
6. class size: small (20) vs medium
7. campus: brand new campus in Tai Wai vs. crappy campus in Lai Yui and then super nice campus in Cheung Sha Wan.
by the way, is your son in Dinosaur class now?
作者: PiyoC 時間: 12-6-7 14:08
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My son is going to N1Sep this year. It seems a few years to go until he becomes eligible to apply IS but I already have to plan what the future route we want him to go in Primary (IS or LS). While BH seems to have an advantage in getting into RC or other IS because of its better training in English, but I am not clear about the grading of IS in HK to be honest. For LS, there would be kind of banding but not in IS I am afraid.
In the end, we most likely don't have a choice coz of the limited spaces in IS and we may turn out to find a relatively more expensive but less reputable IS to study. Then how about coming to LS which at least we have better visibility of its quality of education from our friends, families..and most importantly with lower tuition fee. This is where I am stuck in my mind now.
作者: yuenru 時間: 12-6-7 14:30
PiyoC ,
you are not the only one who has this thought. Given that your son is Nursery in Sep, the competition is even more fierece than what I'm having now. I think it's good that you start your research now. But at the end of the day, there are many uncontrollable factors. Enjoy the time with yoru kids. When the time of applying schools come, just follow the schedule and apply. Honestly, it's very hard to know what schools you can get in and what not now. According to the overall school application schedule, it never hurt to try out the international route first as it start from K2 Sep. If the IS pan doesn't go well, you can then follow the LS stream from K2 Jun time and K3 onward.
Don't worry too much. Enjoy the moment with your kid. They grow up fast and happy moment is the time you dont' want to be missed.
作者: PiyoC 時間: 12-6-7 16:34
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Thanks. Yes you are right. I may be worried too much. I would keep your comments on the curriculum comparison for my reference. Hope everything's going fine in CAIS and your daughter loves the school. You're also a good mum with such a good planning for your daughter.
作者: Max1130 時間: 12-6-12 00:24 標題: 回覆：yuenru 的帖子
Dear yuenru, is your girl in elephant A?
作者: yuenru 時間: 12-6-12 15:00
Max1130 ,
Elephant B.
作者: Max1130 時間: 12-6-14 00:26 標題: 回覆：yuenru 的帖子
My son is in elephant A, he also got accepted by Cais and think international. But I m still struggling, coz the cais school bus should be leaving ma on Shan at 6:15am which i think it is a little too much for them. Since my son is relatively small n RC asks me to re-apply year 1 again this year when they rejected my son. I might want to let him stay at Boxhill k3, then try RC again n also some dds. Actually, I heard from ms chow that all elephant b applicants to RC got accepted, no?
作者: yuenru 時間: 12-6-15 11:03
Max1130 ,
Oh, I remember who you are! For CAIS, I called up the school bus company, given that they just being told about moving to the new campus, they are at the middle of re-designing the bus route at the moment. Give them a call and see if they have any update.
Not all elephant B got accepted, besides myself and 2 more on wait list. what about Elephant A?
anyway, your case is a tough call. repeating 1 year is good but also mean that the competition is getting even worse.
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