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作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-2-9 23:47 標題: DBS IB Admission Talk

DBS IB Admission Talk
18th Feb, 2012
10:00 - 12:00
http://www2.dbs.edu.hk/ib/

作者: kym 時間: 12-2-10 10:15

Good chance to know about the running of IB in DBS and visit all the new facilities.

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-2-10 10:30

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As DBS running IB for 3 years, should be more students and parents want to know the status.

Also hearing diff problems of 334, it's a good opportunities for boys to study in DBS IB stream.

If English is excellent, easier than G1 and G7 admission.

作者: chuntam 時間: 12-2-12 22:33

請問可否讓女生進去聽聽?
又或者SPCC有冇類似的?

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-2-13 00:11

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請問可否讓女生進去聽聽?
I think so. Welcome all Parents and students.

又或者SPCC有冇類似的?
SPCC doesnt provide IB Admission Talk in previous years, also this year "None"

作者: mayc 時間: 12-2-14 11:13

最好打電話去DBS問吓,因為我朋友幫我拿了兩張入場卷!

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-2-17 14:07

DBS will have a memorial service for his ex-principal, Mr. Lowcock right after the Admission Talk, so many old boys will come back.

作者: chuntam 時間: 12-2-17 23:38

已收到入場卷!謝謝你的介紹!:loveliness:

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-2-18 00:10

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Share with us what you feel about DBS's IB after the talk.

作者: m97n98ch 時間: 12-2-21 19:37

Hi, Anchan59,
I attended the IB admission talk,I 'm happy to know more information .Now I don't worry about so much because I understand my son 's character will be match IBDP stream. Also I appreciate the father of S11,Mr Chan who share his experience and comment to all the parents . I learn more from him and you. Thank you.

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-2-22 00:36

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What's the difference of the comments between Mr. Chan and I? What impress you most in his sharing?

作者: bobbycheung 時間: 12-2-22 09:37

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I didn't go to the talk. But assuming that Mr. Chan and you are the same person, I am also interested to know what you said in the talk but not posted here.

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-4-7 18:34

Just talked to a friend and his son is my son's senior, he got 2 offers from CUHK, one from HKU and HKUST respectively. He holds 2 offers and declined 2.

In the main round, more students got offers from Ivy League like Princeton....

作者: CHAN-2 時間: 12-4-7 21:28 標題: 回覆：ANChan59 的帖子

Thanks for sharing.

作者: kym 時間: 12-4-9 01:03

my son told me that C.Y. got offer from U Pen and Princeton

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-4-9 01:20

kym 發表於 12-4-9 01:03
my son told me that C.Y. got offer from U Pen and Princeton

Leo should update the offer list sooner.
Amazing, some boys got conditional offers = "unconditional offers", like IBDP + English SL 5 for hot programs....

Keep the run next year too.

作者: riccichu 時間: 12-4-9 19:06

IBDP + English SL 5 for hot programs....

So simple, What's the hot programs?

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-4-9 19:18

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My friend reminded me to keep it private.

作者: Yb712 時間: 12-4-10 17:01

Hi all , any comment about IB or preIB run by SPCC ? As they don't have any admission talk, not sure are they doing 'real IB' ? ( I know it is an excellent school in traditional system)  I mean their approach, system and teacher's mindset !  As I know their teachers are mainly the original teachers there and the co-ordinator is a local lady!
From Mr.ANChan,  DBS sounds different!
Just see if any parent got any idea or know someone studying there can share!

Mr. ANChan, from  other threads,  most IS schools need a few years to adjust from IGCSE to IB, what do you think about DBS or SPCC?

作者: webeheld 時間: 12-4-10 19:39

Yb712 發表於 12-4-10 17:01
Hi all , any comment about IB or preIB run by SPCC ? As they don't have any admission talk, not sure ...

All the teachers at SPCC IB are 'original' staff that come from the local division in the past. Not sure about the IB1s but the pre-IB has been running quite successfully...I mean 'quite'. Actually something special is that SPCC students are getting 5s and 6s in the majority in their pre-IB year as opposed to in DBS where 7s are given out quite easily in the pre-IB year. That may actually be the accurate representation and expectation of the student in the IBDP programme more.
I am afraid of giving biased opinion but what I heard is that the subject choices are narrower than DBS. Their choices made before the pre-IB year (in Year 9) are very 'final' since DBS pre-IB offers seven subjects (reduced to six for IBDP) but SPCC pre-IB does not do so and only offers six subjects (so e.g. Phy Chem History and that's it, the student has to carry this option to the end of the IBDP ultimately). As for DBS the featuring of 2 sciences and 2 humanities subjects lets the students explore more on different subjects and make the right choice in the end, in my humble opinion.
IGCSE is a different level from IB...do you mean GCE? Since a lot of students start doing the IBDP immediately after their IGCSEs. Anyway, DBS and SPCC does not teach or encourage the IGCSE yet they allow students to have the option to enrol in IGCSE examinations on behalf of the school. As for the 'transition' between local curriculum and IBDP curriculum, that is the key purpose of setting up the pre-IB year.

Not sure for SPCC, but in DBS it is quite effective since students are taught about the skills rather than the knowledge for preparation of doing the IB (for example how to do the internal assessments efficiently and correctly, e.g. Maths and Physics; or simply extending the two-year course into three-year for better adaptability for students, e.g. English Literature and Psychology). The provision of the pre-IB year is more than enough for equipping the students in both schools to accomplish with flying colours in the IBDP I'd say.

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-4-10 20:18

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Mr. ANChan, from other threads, most IS schools need a few years to adjust from IGCSE to IB, what do you think about DBS or SPCC?

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Most ESF and some IS had IGCSE and GCEAL before adopting IB, so IGCSE and then IB quite a natural and reasonable approach. For DBS and SPCC adopt Pre-IB to have a smooth transition from local to IB curriculum. Since, we can't see the first batch IB graduates from the said schools, I can't say which one is better.

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-4-10 21:54

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For your last para, I would like to know why you said the DBS's Pre-IB and IB more focus on skills instead of knowledge building?

作者: webeheld 時間: 12-4-10 22:25

ANChan59 發表於 12-4-10 21:54
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For your last para, I would like to know why you said the DBS's Pre-IB and IB ...

Actually it depends on the subject. For physics, extensive lab reports every week (6-8 hours to complete one on average) with very strict marking based on the different types of labs required by the IBO for physics IA. Of course they cover some concepts in the physics topics but main purpose is to train the students vigorously on how to do a proper, presentable lab. As for English and Chinese teachers try to cover as many aspects of the IB courses as possible - for example IOC, IOP, FOA, Papers 1 and 2, different texts study as a sampler...

Chemistry again just covering stuff taught in G9 - since most students come from 9D/9S they have no problem in knowledge therefore again numerous labs and lab reports following IB marking style in order to train students. Math not teaching the IB syllabus yet but instead make students familiarized with a different approach to mathematics compared to the local school (very rarely there are 'nice-looking' solutions in complex maths such as 1 etc but just 'ugly' answers, similar to UK/IB style) and also training for IA - short time to complete a massive project just like IB Maths SL and HL.

There are still some exceptions though, for example Econ and Psyc teaching parts of IB syllabus already in order to split the course from two-years into three-years so teaching is less quick paced and more thorough - but there is again also extensive training for the IA and exam response style for Econ and Psyc papers.

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-4-10 22:38

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Thanks for your detail replies of my question. After your clarification, we are on the same page.
You have an assumption that all boys are competent to self-learning and acquire the knowledge by themselves. Build up from their knowledge base and enhance their learning, research and examination skills to achieve flying color examination results. Not undermine the importance of knowledge acquisition.

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-4-11 12:20 標題: 回覆：webeheld 的帖子

For clarification, in DBS Pre-IB used developing, meet requirement or exemplary for individual subject in the transcript with marks, no grading at all. in your description 7s, it sounds not my case anyway.

作者: Yb712 時間: 12-4-11 15:29

Thanks webeheld and Anchan59 for your detail comments, could I ask if the schools IB co -ordinaries will discuss the strategy of university plan or in the aspect of how to choose IB subjects?
Could we compare the IBDP programs btw these two excellent schools with ESF schools ( cos they have few years experience in IB)

Thanks in advance！

作者: webeheld 時間: 12-4-11 22:46

ANChan59 發表於 12-4-11 12:20
For clarification, in DBS Pre-IB used developing, meet requirement or exemplary for individual subje ...

I believe this is not the case this year. Pre-IB Report is based on four grades: E P D B (Exemplary, Proficient, Developing, Beginner). Teachers have insisted that these four grades are a rough representation of 7654 in the IB, particularly for the E and P grades where boundaries have been set loosely based on the IBO newest grade boundaries. It can vary greatly, for example 2011-2012 mid-year Pre-IB Psychology only required 66% for an 'E', yet only less than five in the grade achieved such result; but 2011-2012 mid-year Pre-IB Chemistry which required 85%+ (actual figure unsure) for an 'E', more than half of the grade achieved such result. Some subjects combine both IA and examination result to give the grade of E/P/D/B, for example physics, while some subject teachers gave out these grades based on his/her individual prediction of student's future performance in IBDP.

作者: webeheld 時間: 12-4-11 22:52

Yb712 發表於 12-4-11 15:29
Thanks webeheld and Anchan59 for your detail comments, could I ask if the schools IB co -ordinaries ...

I cannot give too detailed information on comparison with ESF schools, but as for university preparation in DBS:
In the student's Pre-IB year there is a subject named 'IB Skills' taught by the University Counsellor of the IB Department in DBS. There are two lessons per week and there is proper assessment. Components include training of university application as follows:

Citations
Academic Writing
Introduction to Universities and Courses
Mock SAT
Mock US Personal Statement
Mock UK Personal Statement
Mock UCAS
CV Preparation
Reference Letter

There is extensive training for the students in the aforementioned aspects so they are well-prepared for their subject choices (finalized by March in the pre-IB year) and am sure of which way to go after understanding the university requirements.

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-4-14 12:30

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Yesterday, IBDP year 1 students went to HKU's central library to learn how to search info in the library, for their Extended Essay preparation. They have arrangement with HKU, to access the HKU library, it's great training.

作者: Honey917 時間: 12-4-15 20:42 標題: 回覆：DBS IB Admission Talk

我想小兒將來能於高中修讀IB,不知中三時要有怎樣的成績才行？

作者: Honey917 時間: 12-4-15 20:52 標題: 引用：我想小兒將來能於高中修讀IB,不知中三時要

原帖由 Honey917 於 12-04-15 發表
我想小兒將來能於高中修讀IB,不知中三時要有怎樣的成績才行？

補充：是於DBS修讀IB。

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-4-15 21:37

Honey917 發表於 12-4-15 20:42
我想小兒將來能於高中修讀IB,不知中三時要有怎樣的成績才行？

Refer to this link http://www.edu-kingdom.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=2214323 (English)
or http://www.edu-kingdom.com/home.php?mod=space&uid=107125&do=blog&id=525 (Chinese)

作者: Honey917 時間: 12-4-15 22:29 標題: 回覆：ANChan59 的帖子

Thanks a lot!

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-4-16 21:54

The updated offers on 16th April, 2012

http://www.dbs.edu.hk/datafiles/ ... %20April%202012.pdf

More Ivy League and top US university offers.

作者: kym 時間: 12-4-19 21:55 標題: 引用：The+updated+offers+on+16th+April,+2012+h

原帖由 ANChan59 於 12-04-16 發表
The updated offers on 16th April, 2012

http://www.dbs.edu.hk/datafiles/attachment/779/University%20 ...

Mr. Chan, do you know the PG of the student who got the offer from LSE to do law?

作者: webeheld 時間: 12-4-19 22:45

kym 發表於 12-4-19 21:55
Mr. Chan, do you know the PG of the student who got the offer from LSE to do law?

Not 100% sure but most likely 38 with 766 for HLs.

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-4-20 00:00

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I didn't confirm with my son, but my gut feeling is 38 actual score....

作者: kym 時間: 12-4-20 12:06

I think 38 with 766 for HLs is the standard offer, but I think one should at least get PG 40+ to be able to get a conditional offer.

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-4-20 12:37 標題: 回覆：kym 的帖子

I don't think PG 40+ is realistic. The offer included bonus point so PG without bonus point 38 is reasonable, as the final grades around 40+ included bonus make more sense to me.

May be other parents can share their experience.

作者: kym 時間: 12-4-20 13:14

Just my guessing, that why I want to know what he really get for PG.

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-4-20 13:44 標題: 回覆：kym 的帖子

Ask Leo Zen

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-4-20 22:07

kym 發表於 12-4-19 21:55
Mr. Chan, do you know the PG of the student who got the offer from LSE to do law?

My son talked to the boy and his conditional offer is 39/45. His PG is 38.

作者: kym 時間: 12-4-20 22:21 標題: 回覆：ANChan59 的帖子

Thanks, so PG is 38/42 which is same as HKU LLB asking for.

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-4-20 22:29

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The top program's in HK, the PG are similar to the top notch universities in other countries.

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-4-21 23:05 標題: 回覆：kym 的帖子

Do you know the world ranking of LLB of HKU and LSE?

作者: kym 時間: 12-4-27 11:38

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Not so sure how do they compare.

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-4-27 18:40

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QS World University Rankings by Subject (2011): Law

Rank

Title

Country

Academic

Employer

Citations

Score

Harvard University

United States

100.0

93.8

35.4

91.7

University of Oxford

United Kingdom

92.7

100.0

37.9

89.4

University of Cambridge

United Kingdom

92.6

91.0

38.0

86.7

Yale University

United States

83.0

60.5

31.7

71.1

Stanford University

United States

67.4

76.7

29.1

66.4

University of California, Berkeley (UCB)

United States

75.2

53.9

26.8

64.0

London School of Economics and Political Science (LSE)

United Kingdom

63.5

66.0

24.9

60.4

Columbia University

United States

61.2

63.9

32.3

59.1

The University of Melbourne

Australia

57.1

59.7

42.1

56.4

New York University (NYU)

United States

57.7

25.1

54.4

University of Hong Kong

Hong Kong

39.8

25.6

32.6

34.8

51-100

The Chinese University of Hong Kong

Hong Kong

21.8

19.1

17.2

http://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/world-university-rankings/2011/subject-rankings/social-sciences/law

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-4-27 23:53

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Overall, the predicted grades were slightly higher than the actual grades.  A correlation of .71 was observed.

                  MEAN    STANDARD DEVIATION
Actual          4.74                      1.26
Predicted    4.89                      1.25

Refer to 2006's IB Data Review.
http://www.ibo.org/fr/ibna/research/documents/2006datasum.pdf

ANChan59

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-4-28 00:01

TABlE 6:  World Means of Predicted and Actual Grades,  May 2008

                              MEAN STANDARD DEVIATION
Actual                      4.69                1.26
Predicted                4.82                1.27

Overall, the predicted grades were higher than the actual scores (Table 6). A correlation of .71 was observed.

作者: kym 時間: 12-4-30 14:07

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Thanks for the info, hope my son can get into the school he want.

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-4-30 20:31

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Good luck.....!!!

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