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作者: wingsma    時間: 12-1-25 20:32     標題: 優才、黃錦輝和蔡繼有

朋友的朋友的仔仔得到優才、黃錦輝和蔡繼有的offer, 問我如何選擇,我講了我的意見,她還想要second advice, 請指教。
作者: penguin_chick    時間: 12-1-26 02:08

CKY好, 黃錦輝也不錯,但不太熟識,優才是中文學校,應屬次選。不是歧視中文,但是如果能夠同時學好中英文,自然要比只能學好中文為佳!
作者: wilsonchanwh    時間: 12-1-26 09:52

if school fee is not consideration factor, I will choose CKY -> WKF -> 優才
作者: Kindau    時間: 12-1-26 12:32

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優才係中文學校?!!
優才在旺角一至三年班既校舍都有四個NET, 由三年班開始係雙班主任, 主要係net為主, 同埋優才係出名英文幾好, 如果咁都係中文學校既話, 可能在你心目中國際學校先叫英文學校!
作者: bee918    時間: 12-1-26 13:59

黃錦輝是傳統抑或活動教學呢?
作者: penguin_chick    時間: 12-1-26 15:27

優才在小學概覽中的教學語言是中文,應該不會錯的。中文學校的英文好也不為奇。
作者: elizatyy    時間: 12-1-26 17:36

CKY is better.
作者: huba    時間: 12-1-26 17:50

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Hope your friend's friend has also studied and understood the difference in curriculum among these schools. It's not just a simple question of which school is better. It's a matter of choice suitable for the child of your friend's friend.
作者: huba    時間: 12-1-26 17:54

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Yes, Penguin_chick is correct that 優才係中文學校.

If you check around some other schools including the very famous ones, you will find some of them are also 中文學校. Though, their students' English standard are high.

作者: ratafan    時間: 12-1-26 20:48

中文學校= using Chin to teach Maths, GS and subjects other than English or English literature. It has nothing to do with standard of English!!!! Don't over-react to the term 中文學校,it's not a negative term. In HK, many more elite primary schools like  SPCC, SPC, HYS and etc are Chinese primary schools
作者: ratafan    時間: 12-1-26 20:52

It depends on whether your kid feels more comfortable to learn Maths and GS in Eng or Chin. But it is no doubt that the earlier you get to use the language more, the easier you get adapted in secondary school ( assumption: you would go for English secondary school)
作者: vincher    時間: 12-1-26 23:05

CKY 高幾班!不計算$$$一定揀CKY
作者: lrxsam    時間: 12-1-26 23:57

個人意見: CKY >WKF> 優才
作者: newmommy    時間: 12-1-28 22:44

Look at the teachers at CKY, and if you compare those with GT, CKY's teachers quality (education  background, the way they present themselves, their overseas experiences) are way much better than GT.

作者: iamderek    時間: 12-1-29 00:10

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newmommy 發表於 12-1-28 22:44
Look at the teachers at CKY, and if you compare those with GT, CKY's teachers quality (education  ba ...

Where can I "look at the teachers at CKY"?  I am really interested to know how good they are.

作者: huba    時間: 12-1-29 00:31

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As the two schools run different curriculums, this may affect the selection criteria for the teachers too and thus the attributes of the teachers. Yet, may I ask you to share the source of information for the two schools' teachers which you used for comparison?

作者: huba    時間: 12-1-29 00:33

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Regarding CKY, maybe the below information is helpful for your friend's friend too.

http://find-kindergarten.blogspot.com/2011/04/blog-post_8893.html

作者: newmommy    時間: 12-1-31 21:55

iamderek and huba, sorry, there is no public source of information that I can point you to so that you can read and do direct comparison. But I can tell you it is a little more than just impression of the schools.
Unlike some other schools, the named schools (I think) did not list our where their teachers graduated from. I understand that DBSPD and St Stephen's (Stanley) at least listed out the degrees that their teachers earned, and that is the most objective public information any school can offer. Kindly advise if I am wrong here.

what I want to conclude is that, choose the one that you feel suitable to your kid according to curriculum, studying overseas vs. local, and closer to your home. Check their teaching materials. And what parents say about schools, personally, it is very difficult to judge based on that (although it is a good source of information) because different parents have different expectations. What they like maynot be your cup of tea.
作者: Mikikwan    時間: 12-6-16 13:02

Gt Ellen is not good in English. I attended their admission talk and visited their classroom this May. I read an English composition pinned on the wall, within 5seconds I pointed out 3 grammatical error on it that were not corrected or marked with a circle. These error were overlooked by teachers. May be I shouldnt assume that work pinned out are always supposed to be well done.
作者: michellebaby    時間: 12-6-16 16:26

To take the balance between Eng and Chi, my kid will change from an IS to CKY. I went to CKY over 10 times to talk with their students and found out their Eng & Chi are both great.

作者: michellebaby    時間: 12-6-16 16:48

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其實佢哋升上去考的公開試都好唔同的。IB 同 334 亦都要考慮埋啊。
其實間學校啱小朋友最緊要,大家一齊摸著石頭過河吧! 一齊加油!

作者: joanthony    時間: 12-6-16 18:22     標題: 回覆:優才、黃錦輝和蔡繼有

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作者: peggy2754    時間: 12-6-16 18:56

蔡繼有行IB,唔係香港課程,如果唔諗住將來外國升學就免諗,優才係中文小學,不過其實宜家上到中學,中英語言同等重要,至於黃錦輝較平均,校風唔錯
作者: marcuscyrus    時間: 12-6-16 18:59     標題: 引用:蔡繼有行IB,唔係香港課程,如果唔諗住將來外

原帖由 peggy2754 於 12-06-16 發表
蔡繼有行IB,唔係香港課程,如果唔諗住將來外國升學就免諗,優才係中文小學,不過其實宜家上到中學,中英語言同 ...
I dun have the actual source, but heard that the admission rate to university using ib results through non jupas has been increasing these few years




作者: poonseelai    時間: 12-6-16 19:55

marcuscyrus 發表於 12-6-16 18:59
I dun have the actual source, but heard that the admission rate to university using ib results throu ...

You are right, but still majority of university places in HK are for 334.  Non-jupas is roughly 20% - 30% of all intake and it also depends on subjects.  Generally only students with very high IB scores will be accepted by Us in HK.  So, if parents only consider sending their children to Us in HK, IB may not be an appropriate choice.
作者: HaYi    時間: 12-6-17 09:16

我 是

CKY  (軟硬都好,重語言, 教法活潑,  只是太貴.如果不是$問題一定3間之中首選)  > GT (硬件唔太好, 軟件較平均)  >  WKF (硬件好, 軟件一般)
作者: rogerlam123    時間: 12-6-17 09:26     標題: 引用:我+是CKY++(軟硬都好,重語言,+教法活潑,++

原帖由 HaYi 於 12-06-17 發表
我 是

CKY  (軟硬都好,重語言, 教法活潑,  只是太貴.如果不是$問題一定3間之中首選)  > GT (硬件唔太好,  ...
非常同意你的分析。




作者: ANChan59    時間: 12-6-17 09:59     標題: 回覆:poonseelai 的帖子

I guess you refer to those most popular programs, other programs pretty easy.




作者: Naurto    時間: 12-6-17 11:27

其實好不好有主觀因素和客觀因素. 主觀因素"各花入各眼, 很難定". 你覺得好不一定人家有同感. 只可作參考而已......

但客觀因素是校外成績, TSA 成績。
CKY 不考TSA, 走 non -jupas 路,線 很多都打算去外國, 根本只可和英基, 啟思比.讀CKY 之後轉回傳统學校不一定每個小朋友都可以.
黃錦輝不考TSA, 小學肯定相對輕鬆, 但小學 academic 不會太強, 因為少操.  但它走 jupas 路線,又還沒有公開public exam.  相信一部份家長在此情況下會出國留學, 你要想想你子女是否會留學. 如你讀十二年, 值得留意中三後多少人會走.
GT是半傳统, 考TSA. 高小不會輕鬆. 剛出了 public exam result, 三間中出外留學人數應是較少的, 英文會考約百分之六十 是C 以上. 傳统英強中弱學校.可看考評局報告参考.

以上個人意見, 最後也要你想小孩的路怎樣走.......


作者: HeiHeiMa    時間: 12-6-17 18:28

CKY有考TSA, 但唔會傕谷, 考完都只係for學校校內參考!
作者: penguin_chick    時間: 12-6-17 22:18

很多人都担心入了CKY便很難轉回傳統學校,但是入了CKY,為甚麼又要轉回傳統學校呢?難道入了DGS, DBS,LS, Sp等的會經常考慮轉校嗎!
作者: edea    時間: 12-6-17 22:49     標題: 引用:if+school+fee+is+not+consideration+facto

原帖由 wilsonchanwh 於 12-01-26 發表
if school fee is not consideration factor, I will choose CKY -> WKF -> 優才
同意




作者: yhn    時間: 12-6-17 23:13

但若果要consider埋學費呢,你地又會點揀?

不是要鬥平,但我喜歡優才,
每班廿四人,
NET的比例遠比其他學校高,
小三由NET做班主任,
小一、小三、小六也對全級學生作多元智能評估(免費),
八十多個才華班任選(免費),
學費只是二千幾,真是值回票價!

但當然我們不只考慮學費,最重要是父母是否認同學校理念和學校是否適合孩子升讀,還有就是老師是否有教學熱誠。
作者: HeiHeiMa    時間: 12-6-18 08:57

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我都好同意!
其實如果真係要轉, 成績唔好, 讀邊間都係難轉! 成績好的話, 要轉亦唔難! 眼見亦有例子轉出其他名校! 所以我唔覺得轉校太大問題!

作者: cutemama2010    時間: 12-6-18 09:05

不管幾平、有幾多才華班幾多NET都好,一間冷酷無情嘅淘汰機器,比你會唔會簡?



音小和優才比較?會揀邊間?


http://www.edu-kingdom.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=2386209&extra=page%3D4&page=2


作者: kitty23205    時間: 12-6-18 09:23

無論讀邊間學校,所有家長都唔想小朋友成績是最差比人淘汰嗰個
所以除咗學校家長也有責任呢
作者: kyliema2006    時間: 12-6-18 09:55

本帖最後由 kyliema2006 於 12-6-18 10:29 編輯
penguin_chick 發表於 12-6-17 22:18
很多人都担心入了CKY便很難轉回傳統學校,但是入了CKY,為甚麼又要轉回傳統學校呢?難道入了DGS, DBS,LS, S ...

雖然我也是CKY的家長,但我覺得將CKY與DGS, DBS等相比則不太恰當,亦會引來反嚮。始終CKY不是傳統名校,有強項亦會有弱項,亦未必識合所有人。

弱項-一般中學都會有很多不同的屬會供學生參加,同學亦可參與、組織及管理學會,過程中學生可學習及享受箇中樂趣。CKY在這方面,則尚待發展中。學校地區偏遠,交通不便,孩子不可外出吃午膳。加上若自行回家要轉三次車才到,令我的孩子不願留校參加活動,在這方面,他好像對中學生活有所缺失似的。

強項-語境強,一般孩子(雖然不能肯定100%,但大部份還是可以的)經過數年的浸淫,兩文三語基本上是可以隨時轉台。孩子現時經常作我的翻譯員,當要輸入普通話拼音而老是拼不對時,找孩子;當看明珠台Junior Master Chef聽不明那些澳洲口音時,又要找孩子。

作者: lymchau    時間: 12-6-18 10:09

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Chinese School means the main teaching language is Chinese.  No need to over-reacted.
作者: penguin_chick    時間: 12-6-20 15:32

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我無意將CKY與DGS,DBS等比名氣、比成績,我只想說明︰如果你能極進入你的心儀學校,又為甚麼要考慮轉校呢?

CKY是要考的,而且越來越難考,學費又不少,能入讀的,一定覺得她是你的心儀學校。


作者: rogerlam123    時間: 12-6-20 17:00     標題: 引用:[size=11.5pt]不管幾平、有幾多[size=11.5p

原帖由 cutemama2010 於 12-06-18 發表
不管幾平、有幾多才華班、幾多NET都好,一間冷酷無情嘅淘汰機器,比你會唔會簡?

音小和優才比較?會揀邊間 ...
優才呢間學校真係怪,大部分用家都好喜歡和圍護間學校,但係街外人就比較負面。唔多明!




作者: ANChan59    時間: 12-6-20 19:04

penguin_chick 發表於 12-6-20 15:32
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我無意將CKY與DGS,DBS等比名氣、比成績,我只想說明︰如果你能極進入你的心儀學 ...
Most elite schools not just reputation and academic results, as another parent said, leadership, team work, brotherhood, mentor-ship ...... CKY still need sometime to develop ......
作者: cutemama2010    時間: 12-6-21 08:45

本帖最後由 cutemama2010 於 12-6-21 08:46 編輯
rogerlam123 發表於 12-6-20 17:00
優才呢間學校真係怪,大部分用家都好喜歡和圍護間學校,但係街外人就比較負面。唔多明!

家長要維護學校喺正常。應該喺表達方式唔好,要含蓄一啲比較容易接受。


現在重新整理,學校祇不過喺用盡可用嘅方法去追求成績,如果家長覺得無問題就可以:


1.英文科合格分數提高為70分;

2.再催谷課程教快半年至一年;

3.用達標獎學金間接公開標籤啲唔達嘅學生,希望呢類唔達嘅學生知所進退;

4.勸退唔達標嘅學生離校。


是否抹黑就就自己評價。



作者: rogerlam123    時間: 12-6-21 09:12

cutemama2010 發表於 12-6-21 08:45
家長要維護學校喺正常。應該喺表達方式唔好,要含蓄一啲比較容易接受。
現在重新整理,學校祇不過喺用盡 ...

"家長要維護學校喺正常。應該喺表達方式唔好,要含蓄一啲比較容易接受。


現在重新整理,學校祇不過喺用盡可用嘅方法去追求成績,如果家長覺得無問題就可以:


1.英文科合格分數提高為70分;

2.再催谷課程教快半年至一年;

3.用達標獎學金間接公開標籤啲唔達嘅學生,希望呢類唔達嘅學生知所進退;

4.勸退唔達標嘅學生離校。


是否抹黑就就自己評價。"




1. 英文科合格分數是60分, 但升中英文科"達標"分數為70分 (這個要求由一年班入學時已很強調這點)

2. 只有數學是教快半年, 我見小朋友都沒問題喎. (這樣六年級下學期可試用英文教數)

3. 達標獎學金原意是發放剩下來的助學金, 但安排我亦覺得有問題

4. 未達標同學會有"努力小組, 我見老師頗用心, 每年每級(G3-G5)被"勸退"的約1-2個.(其實家長唔走, 學校亦唔會"強迫", 但對小朋友亦未必好.




作者: rei0510    時間: 12-6-21 16:34

本帖最後由 rei0510 於 12-6-21 16:35 編輯

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