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作者: lovelyteresa 時間: 11-11-8 18:08 標題: ESF CAT2 K2學生會否落第ESF Primary?

因報了ESF K1，女女暫時是CAT1，但相信在香港過兩年會變成CAT2懂廣東話，想請問有否CAT2 ESF Kindy家長分享考進／落選ESF的原因及過程？因想入ESF K1其實只是最終想入KGV, 所以很希望得到過來人意見，謝謝幫忙！

作者: victoriarosary 時間: 11-11-9 08:00 標題: Cat 2's choices

Kowloon Junior, Clearwater Bay. No chance for Cat 2 students except with siblings.

作者: tomintoul 時間: 11-11-9 08:36

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作者: lovelyteresa 時間: 11-11-9 08:49 標題: 回覆 1# tomintoul 的文章

So that means there will be quite a lot of Cat2 esf k2 kids can't have any esf yr 1 offer unless they have island catchment? Poor poor...anyone know more if QBS can absorb the Cat2 from TY esf if they can fall on that zone?
Thx a lot :)

作者: oooray 時間: 11-11-9 09:48

原帖由 lovelyteresa 於 11-11-8 18:08 發表
因報了ESF K1，女女暫時是CAT1，但相信在香港過兩年會變成CAT2懂廣東話，想請問有否CAT2 ESF Kindy家長分享考進／落選ESF的原因及過程？因想入ESF K1其實只是最終想入KGV, 所以很希望得到過來人意見，謝謝幫忙！ ...

if i were u, i would:
0. confirm a K1 offer from any ESF kindergarten;
1. Move to a catchment area where has a (relatively) higher chance to get a ESF primary Year 1 place (don't ask me where);
2. Move back to KGV's catchment area before applying Year 7.

作者: debbieip 時間: 11-11-9 10:00

?? 但我聽聞QBS好多香港人噃....Y1家長仲同我講, 接放學好多都講廣東話....就算係我認識的那位Y1小朋友, 佢都係CAT2, 係ESF KINDERGARTEN上去的....

作者: tomintoul 時間: 11-11-9 11:52

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作者: elmostoney 時間: 11-11-9 14:57

我個女讀緊港島small world，之前佢地好多學生都入ESF，但聽講近一兩年，即使係cat 1 small world學生都入唔到esf. small world係明年九月會開小學，學制跟nis，都係五歲入小一，２２人一班，大家如果驚esf冇位，可以問下．佢地今年過度期，開左一班year 1，係幼稚園個campus運作住先，得１４人，我個女而家讀緊，暫時來講都幾好．

作者: Littleho 時間: 11-11-9 15:04

My elder son studied in Starters School for about six months about 2-3 years ago. Amongst his ex-classmates (out of more than 20 students), only 4 students got accepted by ESF. Amongst these four students, three of them have siblings already in the ESF system. This caught many of the parents by surprise as many of them only applied for ESF

作者: Ocean419 時間: 11-11-9 18:56

What about esf kinder+cat 1 students? Guaranteed chance for interview? I am really getting puzzled...

原帖由 elmostoney 於 11-11-9 14:57 發表
我個女讀緊港島small world，之前佢地好多學生都入ESF，但聽講近一兩年，即使係cat 1 small world學生都入唔到esf. small world係明年九月會開小學，學制跟nis，都係五歲入小一，２２人一班，大家如果驚esf冇位，可以問下．佢地今年過度期， ...

作者: lovelyteresa 時間: 11-11-9 21:17

Aiya but does esf have any reports or statistic showing the no. Of application/cat1/2 ratio in each primary school? Moving across the harbour is common for parents, just don't know if it really works if no information known...;(

作者: cissyc 時間: 11-11-14 16:26

I was really shocked coz I just got the call from KJS that my daughter who is now studying in TY K2 will not be offered a place at KJS despite I got an elder one now studying at KJS !!

作者: crystalpui 時間: 11-11-14 16:39

有哥哥都冇位???

作者: cissyc 時間: 11-11-14 16:45

NO.
That why I am totally SHOCKED !!
There are too many Cat 1 applications.
I am sooooo worried now.

作者: 錢錢媽 時間: 11-11-14 16:56

What did KJS say ? Not even in a waitlist ?! I thought we would be notified via letter.

Gosh!! I am scared. I have been thinking about this day and night since early Nov.

作者: cissyc 時間: 11-11-14 17:00

You will be put on wait list, but it is unlikely you will get a place coz there are tooooooooooooo many cat 1 children. official letter will be sent out by ESF central admission next week. I guess I shall not be the only one receiving the call from the principal. there is nothing we can do except finding another school....:(

作者: 錢錢媽 時間: 11-11-14 17:05

Do you think the principal will call all applicants?

Or just because your elder one is in KJS!?

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作者: cissyc 時間: 11-11-14 17:11

錢錢媽 : do you have any sbling in primary school? if yes, I guess you'll receive the call very soon coz he told me he's calling the other parents; if no, chance of getting place will be low then. you may pm me for more detail

作者: lovelyteresa 時間: 11-11-14 18:19

so that means even if having a sibling in KJS, Cat2 esf K2 kids are unlikely to be in esf P1? or will the principal offers some other esf to settle this? they can't leave you alone...did you apply RC and DC? they have priorities on esf K2 kids in interviews right?

作者: myhappyfamily 時間: 11-11-15 02:24

真唔明 cat2 仲走去讀 esf kinder 為乜, 出路幾乎無 , 回流去讀local kinder好過,

作者: oooray 時間: 11-11-15 09:23

原帖由 myhappyfamily 於 11-11-15 02:24 發表
真唔明 cat2 仲走去讀 esf kinder 為乜, 出路幾乎無 , 回流去讀local kinder好過,

如果真係唔明白就虛心請教用家；
如果真係明白(但又扮唔明)但唔認同也應該尊重別人的選擇；
這是為人父母對孩子基本的身教。

作者: yanyan123 時間: 11-11-15 10:45

Agree x 2

原帖由 oooray 於 11-11-15 09:23 發表

如果真係唔明白就虛心請教用家；
如果真係明白(但又扮唔明)但唔認同也應該尊重別人的選擇；
這是為人父母對孩子基本的身教。

作者: victoriarosary 時間: 11-11-15 10:50 標題: Senseless comments

I agree with oooray. There are always difficult parents who think they are always right. Their senseless comments can be ignored.

作者: lovelyteresa 時間: 11-11-15 11:56

Will cat 2 esf k2 kids be directed to other esf p1 by esf kindergarten principal? Or direct other cat 1 non esf kids to less crowded schoolS?

原帖由 tomintoul 於 11-11-9 00:36 發表
今年 CWBS 暫只計算 siblings /舊生/職員工及 ESF Cat 1 學生已經爆凸, ESF Cat 1 學生都有機會要 waiting. KGV 更加不可能有本地學生位, 單收番 waiting list 學生已經足以新 school term 開班
...

作者: cissyc 時間: 11-11-15 12:58

I heard a parent's younger kid being allocated to other ESF primary school (but only subject to the vacanies)then the kid was transferred back one year later. I'm not sure if it really happened, but chance won't be high I guess.

作者: 蜜蜜 時間: 11-11-16 21:38 標題: 回復 1# lovelyteresa 的帖子

Why not keep her up as Cat 1 until she got an offer in Year 1? Consider about this.

作者: 蜜蜜 時間: 11-11-16 21:41

原帖由 lovelyteresa 於 11-11-9 08:49 發表
So that means there will be quite a lot of Cat2 esf k2 kids can't have any esf yr 1 offer unless they have island catchment? Poor poor...anyone know more if QBS can absorb the Cat2 from TY esf if they ...

QBS was also over-subscribed last year.

作者: 蜜蜜 時間: 11-11-16 21:45 標題: 回復 6# debbieip 的帖子

Half of the class in year one classes this year are non-Chinese. And...what's the problem if there are more Chinese? QBS is also a good school.

作者: jujuxxx 時間: 11-11-17 10:38

Anybody knows if Beacon hill also over subscribed seriously like the other ESF in this year? Is it a good school as not many comments about it?

作者: debbieip 時間: 11-11-17 10:39 標題: 回復 28# 蜜蜜的帖子

我的意思係, 如果上年有咁多香港人(CAT 2)入到, 咁CAT 2 都唔係真係冇機會!

作者: 蜜蜜 時間: 11-11-17 16:09 標題: 回復 30# debbieip 的帖子

for QBS last year, according to Vice principle of an ESF kindergarten which my daughter attended, she said even those in ESF kindergarten, no chance for interview if your are a Cat 2.

作者: lovelyteresa 時間: 11-11-17 16:22

聽到大家講CAT2咁慘要係咁擔心，可能要放棄讀IS，都係排本地學校可能都差唔多咁辛苦呀！除非大把錢可以讀其他買DEBENTURE嘅IS。。。。真灰

作者: tomintoul 時間: 11-11-18 15:04

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作者: nicky127 時間: 11-11-18 19:51

如果想入esf kinder只係想攞interview ticket,我勸你放棄吧,wks kinder今年好多學生(報sjs,包括cat 1/cat 2)連in都無得in,我小朋友亦是其中一位,好多家長不滿

作者: karenchan99 時間: 11-11-18 20:04

How did SJS inform you? Did they send you a letter?

作者: nicky127 時間: 11-11-18 20:38

今日剛收的email

作者: karenchan99 時間: 11-11-18 21:52

So, will put in waiting list? Did you apply RC & DC?

作者: FennieMan 時間: 11-11-18 22:46

For my understanding, if they not offer an interview for your kids right now, they even won't put your kids in waiting lists as well!

作者: glorylove 時間: 11-11-18 22:57

ESF would place your application on waiting list if you send them the reply slip (attached in their email to you) on/before Dec 2 stating that you are wishing to be on the waiting list. All the applicants who fail to be invited for interview in coming Jan will receive such email from the school. And I am one of them, haha....

作者: karenchan99 時間: 11-11-18 22:58

So, it has 3 type of replies from school.
1. Interview + offer
2. Interview + waiting list offer
3. No offer at all

Is it right? Does it apply to all esf primary schools?

作者: karenchan99 時間: 11-11-18 23:00

But, when I read the newsletter, it's mentioned it's the 1st round interview, so do all applicants get replied letter next week? Or it may happen with no replies?

作者: karenchan99 時間: 11-11-18 23:03 標題: 回復 39# glorylove 的帖子

Does it apply to all esf primary schools? Did the email sent out from primary school or ESF admission centre?

作者: glorylove 時間: 11-11-18 23:15 標題: 回復 1# karenchan99 的帖子

The email was sent from the admission center. I thought it would be the same to all ...or may be not. Don't worry, you will sooner or later get a email notification from the admission center, it might be a good one.

作者: nicky127 時間: 11-11-18 23:20 標題: 回復 4# glorylove 的帖子

yes, they place my child on a waiting list.

作者: karenchan99 時間: 11-11-18 23:37

Did you apply RC or DC? Any news from that two PIS, I heard ESF will only give one interview offer, even you apply 1ESF + 2PIS.

作者: glorylove 時間: 11-11-18 23:46 標題: 回復 1# karenchan99 的帖子

yes, got email notification from RC that they have started sending out letters by post today (didnt mention the content in that letter is in their email though) and anyone that don't receive the letter by Nov 25 should let them know by email and they will call you right away. But again, I am not sure if every applicant has received such notification.

作者: karenchan99 時間: 11-11-18 23:55

Good luck, hope you get a good new from RC soon.

作者: lottieclee 時間: 11-11-19 09:37

I got an email that was sent out by BHS, not the central admission office. And another email from RC saying literally the same thing. A letter is mailed to us informing us regarding status of application / interview. We also applied to DC but heard nothing from them.

I guess they were sending out letters yesterday.

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作者: lottieclee 時間: 11-11-19 09:38 標題: 回復 45# karenchan99 的帖子

That's not true. ESF n PIS are independent of each other. So a child can actually be fortunate enough to have 3 interviews

作者: karenchan99 時間: 11-11-19 10:39

BHS is also heavy oversubscribed this year? My friend's kid was in other kinder, but got an offer from BHS last yr.

原帖由 lottieclee 於 11-11-19 09:37 發表
I got an email that was sent out by BHS, not the central admission office. And another email from RC saying literally the same thing. A letter is mailed to us informing us regarding status of interv ...

作者: karenchan99 時間: 11-11-19 10:40 標題: 回復 49# lottieclee 的帖子

Yes, you are right...

作者: lottieclee 時間: 11-11-19 14:02

原帖由 karenchan99 於 11-11-19 10:39 發表
BHS is also heavy oversubscribed this year? My friend's kid was in other kinder, but got an offer from BHS last yr.

I am not sure whether BHS is oversubscribed this year or not. The situation may be just as bad because it covers most of the K2 students from ESF TY.

I haven't had a chance to take a look at my mailbox to see if the letter has arrived yet. I am trying to play it cool :-|. But I agree that it's difficult sometimes.

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作者: jamhappybobo 時間: 11-11-21 14:53

I hope the ESF primary such mom can answer my doubt regarding the cat 1 and cat 2.
Now my son is at ESF K1 and he cannot understand Cantonese at all because I grow up in Singapore and both my husband and I talked to him in Eng. But he cannot get a Singapore passport and now he is a HKSAR passport holder. So is he in Cat 1 or Cat 2? actually I want to ask the prinicipal, but just don't know whether it's a stupid question.

Anyone can help? Thanks a lot.

作者: BiBi100 時間: 11-11-21 15:51

I want to know how to identify the Cat1 or Cat 2, my son is studying in WKS ESF K1 now. My husband is born in UK and work in HK for long time, so he can speak some catonese too and I am from HK. And my son will talk to us in Eng most of the time.
Of course I hope he can study in SJS, but I know the chance is quite low. So how about RC(Ma On Shan), is it also difficult to get in?

作者: cissyc 時間: 11-11-21 17:02

CoP 18-5

Admissions Policy and Procedure

The Head of Student Support provided an update on the ESF admissions policy and procedure to members. Current prioritisations include applicants’:

whose parent is an ESF teacher;
whose sibling is an ESF student;
who attended an ESF international kindergarten;
whose parent is an ESF employee;
whose parent is an alumnus/a; and then
other applicants within each category.

The Corporate Surety Scheme allows companies to reserve a place for the child of an employee through making a payment equivalent to up to six months’ fees. This scheme applies only to children newly entering Hong Kong from overseas at the beginning of the school year.

Members asked how the decision was made as to whether a child was Category 1 or 2. The Head of Student Support said that this was done the basis of the statement about the language spoken at home made by the parent on the application form as there was no way to effectively test an applicant’s primary language. In light of press reports, members were concerned that false declarations were being made by parents during the application process, however it was argued that there was no evidence to prove so. If there was good reason to doubt a parent’s statement, follow-up action could be taken to revise a child’s category and this did sometimes happen.

It was suggested that the applicant’s parents should sign a document stating that all the information they provided was truthful. If it could be proved that there was false information provided, applicants would immediately be removed from the waiting list.

It was pointed out that Board members are aware of the controversy regarding the lack of spaces within ESF schools and that the application process would be reviewed during the subvention process. It would be for Board members to decide whether changes should be made to the policy, but it was the officials’ ambition to eventually remove the category system altogether.

Statistics on the number of students who were permanent residents versus non-permanent residents were provided. Permanent residents were defined as children with one parent in the family holding a permanent Hong Kong ID card. Across ESF schools, the numbers varied, but on average, 68% were permanent residents and 32% were non-permanent residents.

Private independent schools do not currently have a category system in place, but permanent resident status is considered during the application process. It was questioned as to whether ESF primary and secondary schools could consider the system used by the private independent schools, as an alternative to categorisation.

It was clarified that ESF’s ordinance states that it exists to educate children in the medium of English who can benefit from such an education, and does not discriminate based on ethnicity.

It was pointed out that the category system was in place to simplify the admissions policy and it was questioned whether the interview process could be enhanced in order to validate the information that was provided.

It was noted that the problem with enhancing the interview process is the logistics of time as the interview process is quite extensive and requires the participation of teachers which may remove them from the classroom.

Members agreed that the current admission policy and category system would need to be redefined as there were problems with the system’s validity and workability. It would be desirable to remove the categories. Members agreed that one solution would be to enhance the interview process.

作者: lottieclee 時間: 11-11-21 22:39

Mind you... I think they do test the categories declared by parents during the interview. They said if they found out the parent lie on the application form, the child would be put at the end of the waiting list even if he passes the interview.

I don't know how they test the child though.

作者: 蜜蜜 時間: 11-11-21 22:46

原帖由 jamhappybobo 於 11-11-21 14:53 發表
I hope the ESF primary such mom can answer my doubt regarding the cat 1 and cat 2.
Now my son is at ESF K1 and he cannot understand Cantonese at all because I grow up in Singapore and both my husband ...

For your case, he should be in Cat 1, just go and ask the school, moreover, I learnt from a K2 mom that the kinder do test the kids whether they know Cantonese or not in the beginning of K2 this year.

作者: jamhappybobo 時間: 11-11-22 11:49 標題: 回復 57# 蜜蜜的帖子

Thank you for your reply.
But do u know how do they test ? Because I think he might know some simple comment since he has a Chinese face , and other people around us do talk to him in cantonese.e.g have u eaten? And good morning etc. Usually he will just ignore them and sometimes he will tell them " u need to speak English"

作者: 蜜蜜 時間: 11-11-22 12:03 標題: 回覆 58# jamhappybobo 的文章

Seems that they simply ask the kids "do u know Cantonese?" and if your kid can respond like "you have to speak in English." then it is good enough.

作者: jujuxxx 時間: 11-11-22 12:30

原帖由 lottieclee 於 11-11-21 22:39 發表
Mind you... I think they do test the categories declared by parents during the interview. They said if they found out the parent lie on the application form, the child would be put at the end of the ...

Just want to share my case. My kid is in ESF K2 now and she is trilingual kid (includingenglish+cantonese) kid. Teacher told us that we must report truly that she can speak cantonese . I followed and i got 3 interview letters(including 2 DC+RC)just now.

作者: FennieMan 時間: 11-11-22 21:00 標題: 回復 60# jujuxxx 的帖子

You are very honest! That's what i think parents should do! unfortunately, as i know some of the parents will lie their kids only speak/understand in English! what's a shame!

作者: xx33 時間: 11-11-23 02:07 標題: 回復 54# BiBi100 的帖子

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作者: Mammy-Peggy 時間: 11-11-23 13:55

HI!My case is same as yours. What can we do then?

原帖由 cissyc 於 11-11-14 16:26 發表
I was really shocked coz I just got the call from KJS that my daughter who is now studying in TY K2 will not be offered a place at KJS despite I got an elder one now studying at KJS !!

作者: bleushow 時間: 11-11-23 14:28

oh sad to hear about it. At this moment, i think it's necessary to take action for back up plan if you haven't earlier. Try other IS still open for application or some IS kindergarten that has K3 (such as NIS, Tutor Time, ad YMCA) may be? If switch to local stream is also an option, may be also try not so popular local kinder that for K3? All the best!!

作者: bbmama100 時間: 12-2-19 02:47

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我報ESF WKS就係這個原因,希望攞張入場券去RC,但又知道RC都收其他Kinder的学生,会不会ESF WKS的Cat2学生机会反而比別人低,究竟esf有無priority to RC?

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作者: cfaye 時間: 12-2-19 09:07

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你的分析都唔錯，不如講下我個實例，我小朋友係讀RC, 同班同學大半都係esf kinder上，而我仔仔係st cat k2，佢地同學全部都要2次interview 甚至3次，更有部份收reject，但我小朋友反而只係1次。你話esf kinder會唔會有特別優勢對於RC來說。據我仔仔入讀RC後理解，RC跟別的esf primary收生標準係稍有不同。佢地要小朋友達到程使度要求，同時英文程度不要太低，即係話有d似考本地直資或私校一樣要求小朋友素質。反覆思考，點解esf kinder 的學生多數要2次或以上，絕可能係esf kinder是遊戲成份居多，著重愉快自由學習。但local kinder就學術著重，RC似乎較接受後者。同時我也知RC老師會每年定期揀選某幾間local kinder去考察看看他們程度和上課表現。我希望我的分享可以幫到大家，想入esf kinder 而只係ｃａｔ２小朋友，你們的投注贏的機會是很小。

作者: homummum 時間: 12-2-19 13:44

Studying in ESF kinder only gives u priority in interview. Whether ur kid got accepted depends on their interview performance. So, even if ur kid is studying in ESF kinder, the parent has to keep up the standard of the kid so as to get a seat fr any ESF primary. For sending teachers to kinders for observation prior interview, it is a common known practice. As long as applications fr the kinder is over 10 or 12 (exact no. Forgotten), the ESF primary will send teachers to that kinder no matter it's local or int'l kinders.

作者: cowebi 時間: 12-2-19 14:10

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cfaye, thanks for your advice.
我都有bbmama同一樣憂慮 ...
基本上我好同意你嘅講法, 我亦知道RC好睇interview表現, 但好似你話你小朋友果班入面有大半係from esf kindy, no matter佢interview左幾多次啦, 始終係收左大半班, 咁其實照咁睇個percentage rate, from esf kindy 嘅小朋友係有d 優勢喎 .....

作者: FattyDaddy 時間: 12-2-19 15:01

cfaye 發表於 12-2-19 09:07
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要小朋友達到程使度要求，同時英文程度不要太低，即係話有d似考本地直資或私校一樣...

I agree, thats why I would regard Renaissance as an "international style" local school.

Why would ESF manage 2 different kinds of schools, the regular ESF schools and PIS schools like Renaissance and Discovery, why not keep them all the same? The obvious reason is to serve different markets.

While the regular ESF schools target mainly ex-pat families (including Hongkong families with foreign status), PIS schools would aim at local families. The attitudes and expectations of these two kinds of "customers" are different.

作者: cfaye 時間: 12-2-19 17:02

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優勢? 睇你點睇件事, 你讀esf kinder條出路真係好狹窄, 你話要突然轉呔話想考番本地直資私校機會跟本好細,(若家長不完全依賴學校教育者例外) . 但你係讀緊出面本地kinder, 你考番RC又唔見得輸晒, 還可能比esf kinder學生有優勢 , 當然英語水平都要達標才行). 回頭望, 真係不少同路人讀完esf k2考唔到esf 學校, 要出番去讀本地k3. 所以做家長而準備入國際學校的真是要衡量可承擔的風險.

作者: bigbighei 時間: 12-2-19 17:39 標題: 回覆：cfaye 的帖子

其實係囉！我大仔果陣都係抱住咁既心態，考唔到咪讀返原校既K3 囉！結果佢考到RC!

作者: bigbighei 時間: 12-2-19 17:47 標題: 回覆：bbmama100 的帖子

我報ESF WKS 都係一樣！而且佢地入學前，我問過上年既畢業生既家長，差不多九成都入到RC/SJC 所以我地先讀，但唔知點解今年會咁差！

作者: cowebi 時間: 12-2-19 17:51 標題: 回覆：bigbighei 的帖子

testing

作者: cowebi 時間: 12-2-19 17:55 標題: 回覆：bigbighei 的帖子

sorry typo in previous msg ....
我同你一樣，都係諗住入唔到RC就出去讀k3, 但都要take risk 到時唔知仲有冇K3肯收生。

作者: cowebi 時間: 12-2-19 17:57 標題: 回覆：cfaye 的帖子

你講中唒我嘅憂慮，所以都一直煩惱緊同唔同個仔轉讀esf kindy 好。唉。

作者: cfaye 時間: 12-2-19 21:04

得閒分享下一些過往經驗, 希望各位爸媽選擇到適合自己的道路給寶貝行走

作者: bigbighei 時間: 12-2-19 22:04 標題: 引用：得閒分享下一些過往經驗,++希望各位爸媽選

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得閒分享下一些過往經驗, 希望各位爸媽選擇到適合自己的道路給寶貝行走

其實我有啲朋友教我，而家好揾定多一間傳統幼稚園讀K2 返多半日學做back up plan, 如果真係入唔到IS 咪可以係果間讀返K3 既話！小朋友都唔會跟唔上！

作者: cowebi 時間: 12-2-19 22:43 標題: 回覆：cfaye 的帖子

Really thanks for your sharing!!

作者: cowebi 時間: 12-2-19 22:54 標題: 回覆：bigbighei 的帖子

我都有同事咁樣教我，不過太辛苦了！

作者: cfaye 時間: 12-2-19 23:47

呢個方法係人都識做, 但現實下我們為人家長怎可以這樣對待我們子女. 換轉是我們, 也會感到吃力.

作者: bigbighei 時間: 12-2-20 09:14 標題: 引用：呢個方法係人都識做,+但現實下我們為人家長

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呢個方法係人都識做, 但現實下我們為人家長怎可以這樣對待我們子女. 換轉是我們, 也會感到吃力. ...

我都唔會！現在只能做既係比佢參加多啲不同既活動，錬大啲佢個膽等佢IN 個陣會有好啲既表現！

作者: Radiomama 時間: 12-2-20 09:26

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Em...首先要立定目標:

1) esf primary school -- 咁就要搬到較有利的catchment zone，九龍和西貢似乎cat 1都爆棚。

2) RC -- 讀esf kindies之外，要在家努力確保"全面發展"，英文是必然條件，但除此之外，性格、認知、禮貌、紀律等，都好重要。今年有小朋友first round就獲offer，他的條件是sibling(guarantee有interview機會)+英語能力+活潑而有禮貌(在SC讀幼稚園). 另外也有sibling讀兩間幼稚園(本地+國際)、也有讀esf kindies+大量興趣班，確保文武相全。

有sibling的，也尚且如此，其他cat 2是否也應及早部署呢?

作者: cowebi 時間: 12-2-20 09:50 標題: 回覆：Radiomama 的帖子

Thanks Radiomama! 如你所講，入RC 要文武雙全的話，我真係無必要讀esf kindy ......

作者: oooray 時間: 12-2-20 10:47

madscientist 發表於 12-2-19 08:38
The kind of advice that could ruin families.

Relocations for a desirable school could ruin families?
I could not figure it out the theory in your mind. Please elaborate. Thank you.
For your reference, i have been relocatiing every 2 or 3 years for different reasons (of course including moving to the catchment area for my desirable schools). Lucky enough, I still have a have happy family (not yet ruined) and i will move to KGV's catchement area when I have decided to choose KGV for my children.

作者: Annie123 時間: 12-2-20 11:04

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作者: AP 時間: 12-2-20 11:13

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但十分奇怪,RC學生的公開試成績卻不及SJS的學生! Learning through play 沒有甚麼問題, 最重要是讓小朋友喜愛學習,做到主動學習.

作者: bigbighei 時間: 12-2-20 11:27

我大仔家吓讀緊RC, 我覺得佢地好注重小朋友的主動性, 可能我大仔果陣未有咁多人想入, 所以爭得冇咁緊要, 但從佢地既學習過程當中(我都做過課堂上既helper) , 小朋友主動性發問同參與係好重要, 所以我覺得佢地IN個陣, 都會觀察睇重哩部份, 能否取録面試當日既表現先至係最重要, 小兒果陣冇特別既參加課興趣班, 但佢真係唔怕醜對住外藉人仕都可以吹一歺, 所以我唔覺得RC一定要收文武相全既小朋友, 反觀家吓細果2個都好怕羞, 唔肯對住陌生人講嘢, 而今年好多有兄弟係到讀既都唔收, 我果對仲要係孖既,所以我先好擔心.....

好問心講, 就係因為細既不像哥哥, 我先會比細既讀WKS 係希望對佢地入RC 有幫助, 但宜家咁睇法...好似難啲, 唯有透過多啲活動錬大啲個膽希望會幫到佢地.

作者: CSJ安樂窩 時間: 12-2-20 11:30

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但十分奇怪,RC學生的公開試成績卻不及SJS的學生!

會唔會因為RC高年班的學生都是外來生呢? 反而好想見到7年後當RC第一班自己學生公開考試成績呢!!

作者: cfaye 時間: 12-2-20 22:26

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絕對同意, 始終RC歷史很短, 高年級都是外來生, 由year1 讀起到考公開試都還有一段距離, 不過相信, 時間是很好的證明.
至於文武全才方面, 我相信是個別小孩而已, RC收生填表/面試都沒要求過出示甚麼證書獎狀等等不會像考本地直資私校一樣, 又要portfolio , 又一疊疊證書. RC面試純粹看小朋友主動性, 及說話和聆聽技巧, 都是一般普通測試而已, 平常心對待就可以.

作者: madscientist 時間: 12-2-21 00:00 標題: 引用：Quote:cfaye+發表於+12-2-19+09:07+回復+bb

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作者: bbmama100 時間: 12-2-21 00:29

cfaye 發表於 12-2-19 09:07
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你的分析都唔錯，不如講下我個實例，我小朋友係讀RC, 同班同學大半都係esf kinder ...

謝謝您的分享！正因為我係Cat 2，我憂慮如讀了ESF wks而沒有Priority，嗰女可能讀Boxhill更適合她，而且有後路K3，請問你有無聽過Boxhill mos？好似話都有學生入到RC。

作者: FattyDaddy 時間: 12-2-21 00:32

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madscientist 發表於 12-2-21 00:00
如果DC的服務對象是本地學生家長，那麼學校選址的人是非常白癡，因為 Discovery Bay 的 expat, 外國人比例 ...

We were talking about Renaissance, not Discovery, but you're right, it appears strange that ESF have built an ESL PIS instead of a regular ESF school in Discovery Bay given the local demographics. May be ESF did not have a free hand in making the decision.

Whichever way you want to look at it, ESL PIS are more Chinese oriented than the regular ESF schools.

作者: bbmama100 時間: 12-2-21 00:37

bigbighei 發表於 12-2-19 17:47
我報ESF WKS 都係一樣！而且佢地入學前，我問過上年既畢業生既家長，差不多九成都入到RC/SJC 所以我地先讀 ...

請問你係咪ESF wks 家長，我很想知道今年的派位如何，cat 2的學生有無機會interview?

作者: madscientist 時間: 12-2-21 00:48

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作者: FattyDaddy 時間: 12-2-21 00:53

madscientist 發表於 12-2-21 00:48
More Chinese oriented? I am not sure what evidence have you got. ...

If you compare the curriculum of ESL PIS and regular ESF schools as published on their websites, you'll find ESL PIS have far more Chinese contents.

作者: madscientist 時間: 12-2-21 00:56

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作者: FattyDaddy 時間: 12-2-21 01:08

madscientist 發表於 12-2-21 00:56
Because RC/DC are fully IB and it seems most ESF schools are not IB yet?

ESL PIS implements IB throughout while regular ESF schools adopts IB PYP in primary then switches over to UK GCSE or International GCSE in secondary and then to IB DP at year 12 (when the child is 16 years old).

IB programmes themselves are language independent, why would ESL PIS place particular emphasis on Chinese if not to attract local kids and parents?

作者: FattyDaddy 時間: 12-2-21 01:21

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madscientist 發表於 12-2-21 00:48
It is not just strange, DC's location does not make sense if their target children are local.

Coming back to the location bit.

It would be logical for ESF to put their primary schools reasonably close to their kindergartens, so Bradbury School is next door to Hillside, Clearwater Bay School is near to Abacus, Renaissance is near to Wu Kai Sa, and Bauhinia School which was in Lai King was near to Tsing Yi.

Discovery College was built to replace Bauhinia which closed it's doors in 2008, may be ESF had wanted to locate it in West Kowloon, but there were no available sites and they had to move further West. The location of Discovery Bay was perhaps not a choice but rather a lack of choice.

作者: madscientist 時間: 12-2-21 01:32

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