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作者: Mighty 時間: 11-11-2 16:21 標題: 点解要讀ＳＰＡＮＩＳＨ？

雖然世界好多人講ＳＰＡＮＩＳＨ，但為何很多国際学校的学生都会学ＳＰＡＮＩＳＨ做外語哩？　除非打算去美国、讀美国Ｕ、当然ＳＰＡＮＩＳＨ非常有用。　就是這個原因？　如有子女是讀緊ＳＰＡＮＩＳＨ，可否ＳＨＡＲＥ你的理念。　　又或者因為同ＦＲＥＮＣＨ比，ＳＰＡＮＩＳＨ容易学也是原因之一？　謝謝分享。

作者: elmostoney 時間: 11-11-2 17:20

A. spanish & french 難/易程度差唔多

B. spanish 同去美國讀書冇關係, 美國所有學校嘅授課語言都以英文為準, 只係南方幾個州比較多南美人

C. 近年南美國家冒起得好快, 再加上佢地資源都豐富, 人口眾多, 所以如果真係學一種西方語言, 除左英文外, 西班牙文應該係一個不錯選擇.

作者: Mighty 時間: 11-11-2 19:04 標題: 回復 1# elmostoney 的帖子

A. 以一個中国人来説、比較ＳＰＡＮＩＳＨ，我覚得法文的音是難発Ｄ。　　
Ｂ．対、当然美Ｕ是以英文授課、但以ＳＰＡＮＩＳＨ作第２語言在美国応該大路Ｄ。　
Ｃ．　我非常賛同、不過即是説将来希望在南米国家発展、ＳＰＡＮＩＳＨ就会是一個ＦＩＲＳＴ　ＣＨＯＩＣＥ．　

希望其他家長也給点ＩＮＰＵＴ，ＴＫＳ＞

作者: poohpoohmouse 時間: 11-11-3 13:38

我覺得Spanish 易學過 French，據聞 Spanish 同 Latin 好相似，我自己學過 French ，我覺得 French 非常之唔 systematic，比我揀過我想揀德文。

其實要論易學，應該德文易學，又系據聞德文原理好似英文。論流通性去北美洲識英文都夠，去到歐洲，德文會好過法文，英文冇乜用。南美州就梗系Spanish 啦。

但我都發覺依家好多 internaional school students 都系揀 Spanish，其實我都唔明，不過我都贊同 elmostoney 話南美屈起的講法，就好似依家d人博命學普通話一樣，以前有唔見系咁? 到南美人去搶購LV呀過億樓盆呀先學 Spanish 又好似真系遲左d。

作者: Mighty 時間: 11-11-3 16:40

poohpoohmouse, so do you find French useful? And why did you choose French? (^-^)

作者: poohpoohmouse 時間: 11-11-3 17:38 標題: 回覆 5# Mighty 的文章

For academic purpose, I don't know cos I didn't learn it for my study or work. I learn it for my leisure trip to Europe.

I choose French because I went to a plcae in Switzerland where French is the main language. I love that place and I know I will go there again (and again). So I learn French. It turns out that French is only 1 of their 4 official languages and most places in Switzerland use German or Italian. Besides Switzerland, I will go to Austria, Germany, Italy and France. Except France all places use German or Italian. Obviuosly I made a bad mistake by choosing French. German and Italian is a better choice but seems like German is easier.

作者: Mighty 時間: 11-11-3 21:17

In fact I am debating which language I should choose for my daughter. I dont want to choose Spanish just because most of the poeple are choosing it. I would like to find out why there are so many parents / people in Hong Kong are learning Spanish. I can only think it is the easiest one among other European languages. Of course, it is not really easy but just comparatively easy. There is no easy way out for learning a 2nd or 3rd language.

Well, I just dont see any possibility of my daughter working or studying in the States or any of the S. American countries so I guess not choosing Spanish wont be a mistake.

Tks for sharing, Poohpoohmouse.

作者: poohpoohmouse 時間: 11-11-4 14:06

Yesterday night I asked someone who chose Spanish for his son in an international school in Hong Kong. Her answer is that Spanish is the most common language in the world besides English and most school in North America teach Spanish as 2nd language. Then I asked a relative in Canada who was born there and ever since lives there and is now studying in university there. Her answer is :

As far as I know Spanish is taught to most North American grade school as the preferred second language (although in Canada it can be a toss up between French and Spanish, but that's only because of Quebec). It is very popular. Americans may also offer a great availability to learn Spanish for relationship reasons because they are right next to Mexico and they already have a lot of immigrants that already know Spanish. Spanish is a significant part of the American culture.

I don't really know why Spanish is chosen most as a 2nd language...but a big reason may be that is much much easier to learn than any Asian language and most European languages. Students are lazy. In university I think more people like to learn Japanese or Korean. I don't know why. Maybe it's just my university.

作者: elmostoney 時間: 11-11-4 17:30

我在美國生活十年, 由中二開始. 住在南部, 很多南美人, 開車往墨西哥約八小時. 但我可以跟大家說, 不會西班牙語其實對工作及生活並無影響. 如果做服務性行業會有點幫助, 但非必須, 如果是文職, 特別是大corporation, 根本不是重要因素.

其實只會說西班牙語的美國人都是新移民, 而且正常情況下都是基層.  他們的下一代因為在美國受教育, 所以全都會英語.  如果說學西班牙語就是為了在美國生活工作, 我想太誇大了, 亦無必要.  latin americans (美國人一般對他們都如此稱呼) 主要集中在加州, 德州, arizona, nevada, florida等一帶, 一些大城市如new york也有, 但其他州份比較少, 要知美國有五十個州, 即使在十個八個州人口集中也不算什麼.

西班牙語和法語是比較相通的, romance languages承接拉丁文, 後代主要衍生了法文, 西班牙文, 意大利文, 所以很多人說,學會三者中任何一種語言, 再學其他的同系語言會容易點.  德文跟荷蘭文最相近, 其次是北歐語言, 之後才是英語.

作者: Mighty 時間: 11-11-4 17:58

大概都明白了、和知道如何選択。　　謝謝　INPUT。

作者: katie0208 時間: 11-11-4 21:20

Mighty, 其實我都有這個疑問，不明白為何這麼多香港的幼兒學西班牙語。
西班牙的文化不及日韓法的文化普及，在香港接觸西班牙語的機會不多，語言未能學而致用，很容易忘記的。
當然我不是說西班牙語不值得學，只是真的要學一種中英以外的語言，我覺得還有很多選擇。
約二十年後我的孩子才出身，那時候那些國家有最大的發展機會，在這個千變萬化的世界，很難預測。但相信未來10年應該都是中國、印度、俄羅斯的世界。從這個角度看，想學冷門語言，學俄文也不錯。（印度人普遍懂英文。）當然，練習俄文的機會也是很少。沒有機會說，很難提起興趣長期學習。

所以我會選擇實用性比較大的語言，例如日語和韓語，起碼在香港有很多機會用到。如果是歐洲語言，我會選法文或者德文。我是從事國際貿易的，客戶來自世界各地，很多歐洲尤其東歐一些年紀較大的人都會說一點德文，另外德國的展覽業發展得很好，很多行業也會在德國舉行大型展覽（當然美國也有），所以德文在工作上是很有用的。記得當年大學有法文日文跟德文學，我沒有選德文，現在很後悔呢。
大家可能有不同的原因而選一種外語學，但我認為興趣是最大的動力，没機會說又没趣味的話，很難長期學習呀。
以上純屬個人意見和體驗，希望幫到你。

作者: Mighty 時間: 11-11-5 11:00

Thanks Katie.

有時香港人做事都是一窩蜂。　　多人学的東西、就只怕自己的小朋友学得慢。　我有時打去ＬＡＮＧＵＡＧＥ　ＣＥＮＴＲＥ問，都説ＳＰＡＮＩＳＨ一定有班、ＢＵＴ　ＦＲＥＮＣＨ就ＮＯＴＳＵＲＥ．

其実我一向都認為ＦＲＥＮＣＨ＆ＧＥＲＭＡＮ是比較有用的。　　但眼看周辺的人都学ＳＰＡＮＩＳＨ，就想是否自己脱了節。

ＫＡＴＩＥ説起俄文、我曾経在東欧生活過、那個国家的語系来自ＲＵＳＳＩＡ、我到ＣＥＮＴＲＥ学了幾個月、真是無可能学識（＾－＾）、同様是一個英文字母、但発音是完全不同的。　如Ｐ音是Ｒ音等等。　

作者: katie0208 時間: 11-11-7 15:20

一窩蜂 => totally agree!

I dun know Russian is so difficult but can imagine.

But I still think that interest is the primary concern. No interest, no fun!

作者: poohpoohmouse 時間: 11-11-7 15:24

我好奇想問下，咁你決定左比小朋友學乜未?

作者: Annie123 時間: 11-11-7 15:35

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作者: Mighty 時間: 11-11-7 18:38

Poohpoohmouse, 未１００％肯定、不過応該会是ＦＲＥＮＣ．　出国機会不大、但如果有、応該是英国、所以ＦＲＥＮＣＨ会迎合点。　　ＨＵＢＢＹ識ＦＲＥＮＣＨ，所以都可以教到。

ＫＡＴＩＥ０２０８, I know interest should be the primary concern.... but at this stage is more a school matter, so we will have to choose for her and I think if we can give her the full support, then that shldnt be a problem. 為興趣去学、可能真係要大個Ｄ才可以ＬＡ．　我同女児説、因ＭＵＭＭＹ不識法文、她毎日学了後、一定要教我ＡＨ．　　She suddenly looked very proud and said "yes of course" (^-^)　

作者: clairecarmen 時間: 11-11-7 23:20

if someone ask me why i chose French for my daughter, i will say she will go back to Canada sooner or later ..but deep in my heart, i think French is a "sexy language" & if a girl can speak French, she will become so attractive, hey hey!

作者: Mighty 時間: 11-11-8 07:04

Hey Claire, you said my secret thought as well...a French speaking Asian girl is very attractive indeed (^-^)

原帖由 clairecarmen 於 11-11-7 18:20 發表
if someone ask me why i chose French for my daughter, i will say she will go back to Canada sooner or later ..but deep in my heart, i think French is a "sexy language" & if a girl can speak French, sh ...

作者: NaipNaip 時間: 11-11-15 10:06

I am also struggling for choosing another language for my girl (2 yrs old).

I've learnt Japanese for many years and since birth, my girl has been listening to Japanese. Now she's a big fan of Anpanman(麵包超人). She wants to watch the videos of Anpanman every day. However, I believe that the future of Japan is rather dim

So I'm not sure if I should invest in letting my girl learning Japanese any more.

I've learnt French as well but mostly forgotten. France is a very romantic and artistic country. I hope France can better develop her potential economically that she can be the leader in Europe other than Germany.

Time is limited. My girl is going to an English playgroup (Anfield) three times a week, another playgroup (Shichida)once a week in Jan. Then, there's only a day left for her studying another language~~

What language should I choose? Should I let her learn both? In the language centre we're going, it provides both Japanese and French, even Spanish, English and Putongha.

作者: elmostoney 時間: 11-11-15 23:21

唔好期望法國會做歐洲阿頭, 佢地福利太好, d人太懶, 而家仲欠落一屁股債, 大家都驚緊意大利如果真係爆煲, 分分鐘下個到法國. 好記得有次去做野, 巴黎地鐵同巴士又擺工n日, 攪到連野都做唔到, 仲驚走唔到tim! 我自己係中學同大學都讀左六年幾法文, 程度上可以睇報紙小說咁, 不過都唔記得哂.  因為工作原因, 亦都有去過公幹, 亦會有客人來香港.  我口語唔得,但係發覺一般國際貿易, 英語都通行.

日文我都學過下, 仲係東京做過一年交換生.  都係興趣, 但我都唔會比自己仔女學啦.

不如學好普通話啦, i.e. if you are choosing a language based on practicality.  呢樣最實際.  如果我要自己係屋企教阿女基本法文同日文, 完全唔係問題, 不過我唔會, 我而家請左個普通話補習老師教佢, 順便教埋我!

[ 本帖最後由 elmostoney 於 11-11-15 23:29 編輯 ]

作者: vivili 時間: 11-11-17 23:48

I let my daughter learn Spanish only because she shows interested in it. I did not think of the long term "use" of an additional lanuages. Who knows what is going to happen in 20 years time. I simply think a 2nd or 3rd lanuage can help to simulate her brain and she will be more acceptive to different sounds.

I guess it is not about whether everyone is doing it or so I have to (or better not to) do it. It is about what the kids like!!

作者: Mighty 時間: 11-11-18 09:00

Yes Vivili, if my girl is like yours who shows or tells you what she wants to learn, that wl be really great. My girl only likes playing (^-^), so I have to help her to choose her 3rd language for her.

作者: clairecarmen 時間: 11-11-18 13:59

may she can show her interest on different kind of songs, pictures, food...

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