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作者: c1234 時間: 11-10-24 15:50 標題: 在334制度下，傳統名校還有沒有優勢呢？

請問大家，在334制度下，傳統名校還有沒有優勢呢？
傳統名校指: St. Paul Co-ed, St. Paul Convent, Marymount, DBS, DGJS,庇理羅士女子中學, 喇沙書院, 皇仁書院, 瑪利諾修院學校（中學部）, 恩等等。

作者: schoolrun 時間: 11-10-25 10:56

Before 334, what "優勢" did those schools actually have?

作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-10-25 11:14

原帖由 schoolrun 於 11-10-25 10:56 發表
Before 334, what "優勢" did those schools actually have?

Good fundamental question....

作者: Charlotte_mom 時間: 11-10-25 16:57

我知: 佢地有辦法拎到所謂restricted既資料例如marking scheme之類
(唔好笑, 我以前讀果間中學, 真係無老師ever講過咩叫marking scheme的)

作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-10-25 17:49

原帖由 Charlotte_mom 於 11-10-25 16:57 發表
我知: 佢地有辦法拎到所謂restricted既資料例如marking scheme之類
(唔好笑, 我以前讀果間中學, 真係無老師ever講過咩叫marking scheme的)

You can buy HKCEE & HKALE marking schemes from HKEEA or book shops.

作者: kenfu 時間: 11-10-25 18:40

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作者: ChiChiPaPa 時間: 11-10-25 20:35

她們的優勢源自她們的傳統和歷史，在家長心中所建立的地位，因此有較佳的學生，支援力較強的家長和出色的校友。部份名校更因而有較佳的資源，更好的校舍。

334下，不但無損這些優勢，而且部份名校更有能力發展334以外的課程。

作者: kenfu 時間: 11-10-25 21:43

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作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-10-25 21:50

原帖由 kenfu 於 11-10-25 21:43 發表
走IB, 避NSS Exam.

Not necessary 避 , why not go for a better choice if you can?

Ken, if you know NSS copy IB partially with limited effort, I will go for IB after serious consideration.

作者: schoolrun 時間: 11-10-25 23:38 標題: 回復 3# ANChan59 的帖子

Thank you for understanding ... I try to learn something new everyday.

作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-10-25 23:52

原帖由 kenfu 於 11-10-25 21:43 發表

St Paul 想學生考埋IGCSE, 但很難有時間預備.

St Paul Convent - the principal is very very smart, push all girls to sit for IGCSE, one stone kills two birds.

1. Motivate girls to finish IGCSE and opt for non-JUPAS and through EAS get into university with limited competition.

2. Other boys and girls lack for public exam experience, the first public exam will be HKDSE. Those girls have first hand experience before HKDSE.

[ 本帖最後由 ANChan59 於 11-10-26 00:19 編輯 ]

作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-10-25 23:58

原帖由 schoolrun 於 11-10-25 23:38 發表
Thank you for understanding ... I try to learn something new everyday.

Don't treat me wrong, I really appreciate you ask a very good fundamental question and we can discuss along the line.

作者: redkoni 時間: 11-10-26 00:16

原帖由 ANChan59 於 11-10-25 23:52 發表

St Paul Convent - the principal is very very smart, push all girls to sit for IGCSE, one stone kill two birds.

1. Motivate girls to finish IGCSE and opt for non-JUPAS and through EAS get into unive ...

Sister Margaret 係好有心得, 佢好有準備, 但都要d學生夠smart才能夠配合相輔相成, SPCS並不是浪得虛名.

作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-10-26 00:25

原帖由 redkoni 於 11-10-26 00:16 發表
Sister Margaret 係好有心得, 佢好有準備, 但都要d學生夠smart才能夠配合相輔相成, SPCS並不是浪得虛名.

Of course, just see how many girls got into universities through EAS with IGCSE results....... from SPC.

As so many parents urged to cancel HKCEE and HKALE, then replaced by HKDSE. Up to now, I can't see much benefits. But some elite schools led by smart principals and "Powerful board of directors" to counteract our educational reform in "right" & better direction.

作者: c1234 時間: 11-10-26 11:05 標題: 回復 1# ANChan59 的帖子

Hi AnChan59 & everyone :想請問，那麼在334下，傳統名校若有舉辦IGCSE/IB才會有優勢，對嗎？E.G. DBS,SPC, St. Paul Co-ed etc.

作者: schoolrun 時間: 11-10-26 11:21 標題: 回復 12# ANChan59 的帖子

@ANChan59 ~ Please don't worry, and actually I am sorry to get your confused.

I know exactly what you mean by that. How did I know it? That's because you could simply bring out a point ... the same point I had in mind.

And thank you vey much for your appreciation!

Have a good day!

作者: leeleelumlum 時間: 11-10-28 16:15

原帖由 ANChan59 於 11-10-25 23:52 發表
1. Motivate girls to finish IGCSE and opt for non-JUPAS and through EAS get into university with limited competition.

2. Other boys and girls lack for public exam experience, the first public exam will be HKDSE. Those girls have first hand experience before HKDSE.

I have very limited knowledge on 334, and I am going to start it off now right after my kid having got into F.1.

Allow me to get the piece-by-piece discussion to come up some picture.

May I know whether it means that SP Convent allows their students to take IGCSE before they take the DSE? Once they take the IGCSE, they will take the DSE?

And, taking the IGCSE can help students get into U through EAS easier (with limited competition)? May I know more?

Thanks for your enlightenment in advance.

作者: khmama 時間: 11-10-29 00:13

原帖由 leeleelumlum 於 11-10-28 16:15 發表

I have very limited knowledge on 334, and I am going to start it off now right after my kid having got into F.1.

Allow me to get the piece-by-piece discussion to come up some picture.

May I know w ...

SPC係中二選科, 中四考igcse既, 之後學生要決定中五中六讀GCE A-LEVEL還是NSS考DSE. 依家已經冇咗EAS, 今年9月SPC拔尖入咗U既係上年考IGCSE既中四考生同埋考HKCEE既中五生. 因為有o的中四考生拔到尖, 所以佢地跳咗一級讀中六, 同中五拔尖o個班今年一齊9月入U.

作者: SaSaMummy 時間: 11-11-8 16:02

SPC will not have final examination in Form 4. They just treat GCISE as their school final examination.
There’s not extra pressure on students as they need to work hard for the final examination in order to get promote to F5 even they don’t attend GCISE. The most important is that students are well trained for the interviews and they can get good offer from universities.

作者: KK07 時間: 11-11-9 11:29

原帖由 SaSaMummy 於 11-11-8 16:02 發表
SPC will not have final examination in Form 4. They just treat GCISE as their school final examination.
There’s not extra pressure on students as they need to work hard for the final examination in ...

樓主,呢D咪名校優勢囉!

作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-11-9 13:25

原帖由 KK07 於 11-11-9 11:29 發表
樓主,呢D咪名校優勢囉!

I will say the competitive advantage come from the smartness and the critical thinking of the Principal and the board.

SPC is an example, CCSC is another good example which only consider territory wide rank order list plus the ECA scores and conduct, no interview at all at self-descretion stage, to save students, parents and teachers time and efforts.......

Our schools and educators are driven to crazy by our educational officials. Are they have guts to counter-react to the "Educational Deform"? SPC and CCSC show me they did .......

IB stream is another way to get away from HKDSE and NSS... in this case you need to pay more ........ and may go overseas ultimately.

作者: KK07 時間: 11-11-9 14:15

原帖由 ANChan59 於 11-11-9 13:25 發表

I will say the competitive advantage come from the smartness and the critical thinking of the Principal and the board.

SPC is an example, CCSC is another good example which only consider territory ...

不要誤會我對名校優勢有負面感覺. 傳統名校所以為名校亦因為多年前開始有好的管理層,而能繼續做名校,當然係現任校長與board的精明領導. 不過, 我認為不必太誇獎名校校長, 佢地都係做緊一個校長應該做既工作---以學生為本, 當校長以每一位學生前途為首要考慮, 學生就一定得益.

作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-11-9 14:40 標題: 回覆 22# KK07 的文章

I know you are not critise any elite school. I just add on your remarks from different angle ......

Re-read my second last para........

Why most principals just followers, even they know it's the wrong direction? Where's the guts? Apply to elite or non-elite schools.

作者: KK07 時間: 11-11-9 14:56

原帖由 ANChan59 於 11-11-9 14:40 發表
I know you are not critise any elite school. I just add on your remarks from different angle ......

Re-read my second last para........

Why most principals just followers, even they know it's the wr ...

Understand.......Is it a post-1997 phenomenon?.....sorry it may be off the topic...

作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-11-9 14:58 標題: 回覆 24# KK07 的文章

作者: polybrian 時間: 11-11-10 11:29

其實無論 HKDSE 或 IGCSE -> GCE or IB，中二開始選科先可以解决現在課程內容過多，不能教完的問題，大家點睇?

原帖由 khmama 於 11-10-29 00:13 發表

SPC係中二選科, 中四考igcse既, 之後學生要決定中五中六讀GCE A-LEVEL還是NSS考DSE. 依家已經冇咗EAS, 今年9月SPC拔尖入咗U既係上年考IGCSE既中四考生同埋考HKCEE既中五生. 因為有o的中四考生拔到尖, 所以佢地跳咗 ...

作者: khmama 時間: 11-11-10 22:59

原帖由 polybrian 於 11-11-10 11:29 發表
其實無論 HKDSE 或 IGCSE -> GCE or IB，中二開始選科先可以解决現在課程內容過多，不能教完的問題，大家點睇?

SPC雖然中二開始選科, 但係讀o既科目比NSS多, 預算學生到中五時DROP科.

作者: c1234 時間: 11-11-11 17:17 標題: 回覆 7# ANChan59 的文章

Hi AnChan59,
Please excuse me, may I know which school you're refering to by CCSC?

Thank you.

作者: c1234 時間: 11-11-11 17:22 標題: 回覆 10# SaSaMummy 的文章

這學校真的很有遠見？請問還有沒有其它學校有類似的安排，讓學生可以選擇，即不讀HKDSE。

我暫時知道DBS,SPCC有得讓學生可以選擇IBDP vs HKDSE. 謝謝！

作者: c1234 時間: 11-11-11 17:31 標題: 回覆 10# KK07 的文章

明白！但除了SPC有這樣好的優勢外，其它傳統名校如QC, St. Mary, Maryknoll, Marymount, Kings, St. Stephen, La Salle, 聖若瑟英文書院, 庇理羅士女子中學, 德望學校, 英華書院,等等還有沒有優勢呢？怎至香港道教聯合會鄧顯紀念中學, 保良局第一張永慶中學, 張祝珊英文中學, 浸信會呂明才中學等等還有沒有優勢呢？

作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-11-11 17:41 標題: 回覆 28# c1234 的文章

Cheung Chuk San College - Island East

作者: KK07 時間: 11-11-13 22:59

嘩! 多謝抬舉! 我一屆肥師奶,真唔識答....咁多名校,各有傳統,我都不可能全部熟悉,都係讓BK的其他高人提供意見吧! 不過正如前面所說,我係會用最傳統智慧去睇"學校優勢"

"傳統名校所以為名校亦因為多年前開始有好的管理層,而能繼續做名校,當然係現任校長與board的精明領導. 不過, 我認為不必太誇獎名校校長, 佢地都係做緊一個校長應該做既工作---以學生為本, 當校長以每一位學生前途為首要考慮, 學生就一定得益."

原帖由 c1234 於 11-11-11 17:31 發表
明白！但除了SPC有這樣好的優勢外，其它傳統名校如QC, St. Mary, Maryknoll, Marymount, Kings, St. Stephen, La Salle, 聖若瑟英文書院, 庇理羅士女子中學, 德望學校, 英華書院,等等還有沒有優勢呢？怎至香港道教聯合會鄧 ...

作者: kenfu 時間: 11-11-14 06:24

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作者: leeleelumlum 時間: 11-11-14 10:43

原帖由 kenfu 於 11-11-14 06:24 發表

最近

HKU 的 Academy for the Talented 對d香港補助學校議會由香港二十二所歷史悠久的英文教會學校所組成咪絕對有優勢!!

請問那二十二所補助學校? 有冇官中?

作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-11-14 11:59

原帖由 leeleelumlum 於 11-11-14 10:43 發表

請問那二十二所補助學校? 有冇官中?

No public school in Grant School Council.

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作者: c1234 時間: 11-11-14 16:51 標題: 回覆 3# kenfu 的文章

Hi Kenfu,

非常感謝你的指點

，真的讓我又上了一課！請問HKU 的 Academy for the Talented 只收這22所學校的學生嗎？在那裡有明確資料說只收這22所學校的學生呢？因為我見SKH Lam Woo Memorial Secondary School 都有學生入了？真的誠心想請你指教！

謝謝！

作者: kenfu 時間: 11-11-14 18:22

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