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作者: scl227 時間: 11-9-27 09:47 標題: 由本地學校轉往國際學校後的轉變
本地學校學習方式:
1. 要死記很多東西 / 在短時間內背誦很多東西, 例如親戚/家人之間的關係, 抽象得很!
2. 數學教得太快, 沒有透徹理解一概念下, 便,要跳到另一概念!
3. 中文要寫的東西很多, 要學的也很多, 很多時太重視死記了!! 較少應用!!
孩子轉了國際學校後變化很大:
1. 愉快學習
2. 學習沒有壓力
3. 在生活中學習
孩子常常要寫東西, 但沒有壓力下寫JOURNAL 或DAIARY, 他很享受, 也很生活化. 功課成為樂事!
數學方面: 概念分析得很細小, 每星期一個小概念, 容易掌握.
本地教學和國際學校真的大不同. 請有興趣的家長分享一下
作者: annie40 時間: 11-9-27 17:49 標題: 回復 1# scl227 的帖子
似乎你也变成一个轻松愉快的妈妈, 恭喜!
作者: berry?????? 時間: 11-9-28 02:56
請問你轉左變間?學費一年要多少,我女女都要搵小一好頭痛
作者: alunsweeney 時間: 11-9-28 04:25
sleepless..
P1 admission is a torture for parents in HK
作者: alunsweeney 時間: 11-9-28 04:25
where is your kid studying now?
作者: scl227 時間: 11-9-30 12:27
korean international school,
一年八萬,
雜費不多,
但有心理預備, 孩子所學到的東西要細心一點才能見到, 但很適合我的孩子.
最喜歡是在日常生活中學習, 要學的東西, 在不知不覺間已學習了.
作者: sisteryu 時間: 11-10-8 01:26
would u mind to share your reason of such change?
作者: nelson_on 時間: 11-10-8 10:46
原帖由 scl227 於 11-9-27 09:47 發表 
本地學校學習方式:
1. 要死記很多東西 / 在短時間內背誦很多東西, 例如親戚/家人之間的關係, 抽象得很!
2. 數學教得太快, 沒有透徹理解一概念下, 便,要跳到另一概念!
3. 中文要寫的東西很多, 要學的也很多, 很多 ...
如果本來是小二,咁在適應上€會有困難嗎?
作者: Chole 時間: 11-10-9 22:28
I think it really depends on the kid himself/herself.
My girl has changed from a competitive local school to an international school. So far, I can see is:
Pros:
- She is more independent (perhaps she likes the autonomy of being a secondary student).
- She is happy to do charity (of her own accord).
Cons:
- She spends too much time on the computer and I cannot control at all as it's a means of communication used by the school and she has to do research, do homework etc. However, I know she will turn to her facebook and skype when I am away from her desk.
- She does not take "assessment" as seriously as before and therefore does not study hard (or even did not study at all). She says quizz, assessment etc are not formal tests and no need to be serious. 
She used to have 7,8 pages in one test with time limit of say 45 min to 1 hour and she just told me today that she felt bored now since she finished her assessment early and had to wait for a long long time.......
On and off I do have moments wondering whether I have made a wrong decision. I really have to keep my fingers crossed and hope that at present it's the period for her and for me to adapt to a new system.
作者: mattmame 時間: 11-10-10 08:46 標題: 回復 9# Chole 的帖子
I have the same feeling as you since my son joined the International School in (Shek Kep Mei). I was planning to send my son to UK/USvery soon, that's why I wanted to help my son to adjust the learning environment before going to UK/US. He recently finished an entrance test in learning center for those kids would like to apply for UK or US for further study. His scores were much much lower than before when he studying at the his local school. Honestly the teachers and the kids at our International school also n
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作者: mattmame 時間: 11-10-10 09:03
not good, the teacher using mobile phone and playing Facebook all time! I am still on the waiting list of other IS, I am worrying whether he can get the place or not if he has no improvement! I am planning to add extra lessons to improve his English and Math standard! Too much money to spend!!!!
作者: ThanThan2000 時間: 11-10-10 16:49
- mattmame,
- Could you please pm me which school your son is studying now? I am also considering to switch my son to an international school in the same district. I was wondering if I would make a wrong choice. Many thanks.
作者: YuisumMum 時間: 11-10-29 03:00
My daughter changed to sc1227 son's school this year from local school too. She looks more happy and wants to go to school everyday.
In the local school, she didn't want to do homework everyday. She always cry in school and home. Once she said none want to play with her. I try to ask teacher in parents day, the teacher reply me that "your daughter writing, pick up, doing the test paper... did anything so slow, so none want to play with her is normal! Did you prefer your friend working very slow's or working very fast?"
In that moment....I want to XXXYYYZZZ her but I haven't. I only went to look another school for my daughter because I know she will not happy in her coming 6 years.
Although she still work not too fast but she can finished all the homework in joy.
I'm so happy, she just came back from 3 days camp today, she looks much happy in these 3 days with her classmates and teachers.
Thank you this school and the teachers gave my daughter these wonderful school life!
作者: iseult 時間: 11-10-29 13:28
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作者: YuisumMum 時間: 11-11-2 00:26 標題: 回復 1# iseult 的帖子
Totally agree to iseult.
Will you apply your elder daughter to your little daughter's school because I want to move my son to my daughter's school but I don't want to give up my son's school (almost like your situation.) Do you have anything share? Thank you!
作者: EllieTo 時間: 12-1-10 16:03
Hi everyone, I am now struggling whether I should send my son to international school. Thanks for all your sharing so that I can have some ideas on what the change will bring.
My son is now in a very competitive DSS, Pr. 3. I totally agree with all your views that we do not have any family time, not even in long holidays, such as Christmas or Easter, since assessments are always scheduled after those holidays. More importantly, I found that he is getting problems in catching up with the curriculum now. Recently, I found that he may have some learning deficiencies, which makes him even difficult to catch up with the intense work load of local schools. As we planned to send him overseas for higher secondary education, we're thinking may be we should send him to international schools earlier to let him get familier with the system, and may be he could study more comfortably in such environment with his deficiency.
I just wonder how long did your child take to get used to the learning environment? Do you know whether it will be more difficult to adapt if he entered IS in the middle of the primary school years? Both hubby and myself were from local primary schools and we do not have much experience in IS. Would much appreciate if anyone could advise. Thanks.
作者: WYmom 時間: 12-1-10 16:35
本帖最後由 WYmom 於 12-1-10 16:36 編輯
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From my experience of my kid - My child switched from Grade 3 of local school to Year 5 of IS many years ago. She took about half a year to adjust. No problem in Maths, but need to do a lot of reading to catch up with the English standard. Studying in IS is a lot more interesting for her than in local school, particularly in Science, as IS teaches Science in a much more practical and interesting way, no need to memorise anything hardly and no need to go through tests and exams all the time in primary school.
If your child get accepted by the IS, he should have no problem in adjusting to it, only parents may have problems as you have to let go more and allow the child to do things more independently.
作者: EllieTo 時間: 12-1-10 18:00
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WYmom,
Thanks for your reply. 6 months is not too bad. I'm now trying to make applications to some IS. I don't know the chance of getting in and if they did accept my son, it will be a very big change for our whole family, as studying in IS has never cross our mind since we put him to KG education. I just hope that our life could become easier, and my son could build up self-confidence from such a change.
作者: WYmom 時間: 12-1-10 18:24
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Wish you good luck. Yet also remind you that workload in IS secondary school will be much increased if compared to IS primary. Same as in local school, they have to study over 10 subjects in secondary and also have tests and exams... and they also have to join different activities etc. The most important thing is that your child enjoy school life and improve himself based on self-assessment rather than comparison with others.
作者: tutorvk 時間: 12-1-11 23:08
YuisumMum 發表於 11-10-29 03:00 
My daughter changed to sc1227 son's school this year from local school too. She looks more happy and ...
Anyway yeah, as someone who went to a local primary school, then an international secondary school, I totally understand what your kids are going through and the change is quite big. All the "pros and cons" you all listed are all true to some extent. I did find it much enjoyable after the switch and made me more outgoing, but at the same time there was a lot of distractions, so some discipline's needed.
作者: Fatrara 時間: 12-1-12 12:47
Hi, tutorvk,
You mentioned that you went to a local primary school, than an international secondary school. I am just curious, if you can do it all over again, would you choose to attend an international primary school as well?
作者: tutorvk 時間: 12-1-12 13:35
Fatrara 發表於 12-1-12 12:47 
Hi, tutorvk,
You mentioned that you went to a local primary school, than an international secondary ...
Hi Fatrara,
No, I wouldn't. Actually going to a local primary school gave me a good foundation for Chinese language which is important as I am a Hong Kong person. It also gave me a good foundation for Mathematics, which made the first 4 years of British system secondary school a breeze. I only really needed to start learning any new Maths starting year 11 (Form 5). But then again, I went to a highly demanding local primary! Hope that helps.
作者: MissMusic 時間: 12-1-15 15:30
Do you all mind telling which kindergarten your chidren studied before?
作者: meowji 時間: 12-1-20 09:11
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Kis 難入嗎？
作者: meowji 時間: 12-1-20 09:26
本帖最後由 meowji 於 12-1-20 09:31 編輯
I spent my primary n secondary in a very good local girl's school with high academic standard. I wasn't a good student then as I hated school n boring classes although my school is already American style with less homework comparing to other band one schools. My parents sent me to canada for grade 12 in a private school. Just one year, I started to love school, the way they teached was totally different. I can say hk students still have a lot of advantages coz of good math background n I saw most canadian students cannot compete with us on some subjects. But once we got into college, most surpassed hk students becoz they have very solid fundamental training to help them think openly, not just by memorizing contents. It's hard to explain, but that year totally changed my life, made me hunger for knowledge from then on. Therefore, even I have connection to top local school, I rather send him to international as I believe we can speak n teach him Chinese at home.
作者: Fatrara 時間: 12-1-20 12:36
Hi, meowji,
What is KIS?
It is good to hear your sharing. I myself went to average local primary and secondary school in HK. Primary was ok, but I hated my secondary school life, except most of the priests and brothers there were great people, and I admired their sacrifice for naughty kids like me.
Anyway, I then went over to the US for one year preparatory study and then university. Like you, I started to develop a love for learning. In sciences and mathematics subjects, the Asian students excelled in the first 2 years, but then starting from the 3rd year, most could not carry on. It was the American students who passed us. In fact, leaving us in the dust. I have several university classmates (Americans) who went on to top-notch schools like UC Berkerley, Standford and Columbia to continue their PhD with full scholarships in sciences and mathematics.
Now I have kids of my own. I am struggling what primary schools to send them to. I prefer international, but learning Chinese is a big concern. My kid is already studying in an international school, but just got an offer of a place with a top local school starting this coming September. By conventional (& local ) wisdom, most of my friends tell me to choose the local elite school. But I am thinking otherwise. I hope I am not making a mistake.
Your thoughts on this would be very welcome.
作者: Chole 時間: 12-1-20 21:34
本帖最後由 Chole 於 12-1-20 21:34 編輯
It is extremely difficult to maintain a good level of Chinese for international school students. I have seen successful cases but these are rare.
My girl spent 5 years in local school and did well before joining an international school. She's now at the most advanced level Chinese of her grade. I met her Chinese teacher recently and asked if she could do IB Chinese at High Level. Um, her answer is basically - 唔好奢望! And she suggests my girl to take Standard Level.
Besides, >90% of those who came from international primary is attending classes at lower levels. I really wonder if they should choose another language at IB exam.
作者: tutorvk 時間: 12-1-20 23:02
Well, Chinese/Mandarin is getting increasingly important in the job market, or in.. life generally. So if the Chinese classes taught at school ain't that advance, I strongly encourage mandarin tutoring / lots of exposure to it in various media means..
作者: WYmom 時間: 12-1-21 08:22
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Students in IS with really very good Chinese actually are Chinese with mother tongue in mandarin, whose parents are Chinese from Taiwan or mainland China. HK students who have studied in local primary schools don't really have good Chinese standard.
作者: Chole 時間: 12-1-22 00:34
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Yes! That's what I observe too. And I really don't think tutoring once a week will help, especially when the kid is doing alright in the school (because most if not all of the other kids are so so). There is simply no motivation for my girl to improve her Chinese standard.
作者: Littleho 時間: 12-1-22 00:47
I think some international schools (at least one) produce some students of very advanced Chinese standard . It's Chinese program involves local style of coaching students.
作者: FattyDaddy 時間: 12-1-22 01:39
本帖最後由 FattyDaddy 於 12-1-22 01:54 編輯
If learning Chinese is a major concern, then one simply should not opt for international schools, expecting these schools to provide good coverage of Chinese will be like asking McDonalds to serve up a good char siu bau (roast pork bun) {:1_1:}
作者: lucykoo 時間: 12-1-22 08:29
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作者: 蜜蜜 時間: 12-1-22 09:19 標題: 回覆：WYmom 的帖子
I agree that HK students study in local schools doesn't mean that they have good Chinese standard that can compete with those from China in the future, all I want from my girl is to be able to speak and communicate in Mandarin and Cantonese, able to understand the headlines of the chinese newspapers. There are lots of choices of different companies and jobs in HK, I do not think that in future she must be choosing a job required high ability in Chinese language, as well, my girl learnt Japanese since she was 2 and is now able to read, talk and communicate in Japanese (of course in a simple way, but at least talking only Japanese with her Jap teacher and able to play with kids when we brought her to Japan last year), may be this is an alternative of learning Chinese that might help her in future as we are in Asia. Parents here can consider letting their kids to explore another kind of language in stead if you find he/she has difficulties in learning Chinese, my girl does Japanese well because she loves the language.
Everything has a cost and having not so good Chinese standard must be the cost of sending my girl to an IS, but I am happy with it.
作者: 蜜蜜 時間: 12-1-22 09:26 標題: 回覆：lucykoo 的帖子
I think it is all depending on individual kids, their attitude of learning as well as their attitude of being a person. My girl is still young, I cannot predict how good she can be in future, but all I am doing now is to teach her not to be lazy and to love to learn, so that she will be more than happy to learn by herself throughout the system. ESF system does not suitable to lazy students, because lazy students would never wanting to do anything no matter he/she is in an IS or a local school. So good luck everyone!
作者: Fatrara 時間: 12-1-26 14:18
What do you guys think about putting the kids in local primary schools for a few years (say, 4 years), then switch them to international schools? That way, we seem to get the best of both worlds - good Chinese language foundation and liberal education environment (from 5th year on).
作者: CSJ安樂窩 時間: 12-1-26 15:13
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Fatrara 發表於 12-1-26 14:18
What do you guys think about putting the kids in local primary schools for a few years (say, 4 years ...
haha, how will you feel if I tell you now that I will put you in a Mainland firm for 4 years and then switch you to an American firm? would you appreciate the change? or will you prefer to be stable and work for the American firm all along? My view is that sometimes there is no best solution and we have got to learn to give and take. I will try to minimise any major changes to my kids education unless I really have to. I do know a parent who sent his kid to a local KG for K1, to another local KG for K2, then Year 1 in an IS but later considered that IS is too 'relax' and then shift the kid back to a local DSS for P1. I personally don't see any good in doing this except damaging the child's social life.
作者: chongnicole 時間: 12-1-26 20:10
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Which one u are talking about? KCIS, CIS or SIS?
作者: mattsmum 時間: 12-1-29 18:35
looking at THAT chinese professor's article, no one should worry about their own kid's chinese standard.
作者: baby8 時間: 12-1-30 08:16
I think the most important change in IS is that the school offer an environment to students resisting various "more homework and tests" requirement from some parents. On a recent tea gathering with some IS parents and school authority, the word "weakness" appears with highest frequency from parents. I hope that we can change the word to "strength" of our children and how to further develop of it.
作者: iseult 時間: 12-2-2 01:56
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作者: meowji 時間: 12-2-3 00:35
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Sorry for my late reply. If I were u, I would not send my kid to any of those top notch local schools who claimed to be very prestigeous unless she is a very academic type of person and love studying, the discipline or don't mind tough competition. Many of these schools are not the same as before. It's hard to explain. But I see parents n kids are both v stressful. Don't bother by the name, your kid's happiness is more important. Read the book "rich kid, smart kid"
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