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作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-9-11 00:27 標題: HKDSE Students - University Admission
For students taking HKALE, they are shortlisted for interview based on HKCEE results.
In HKDSE, without HKCEE, how universities shortlist suitable students for interview? Base on OLE, OEA, internal exam results or IGCSE?
I addressed this question last year in HKU and CUHK admission tslks, they didn't have a solid answer.
Anyone knows the university admission procedure?
[ 本帖最後由 ANChan59 於 11-9-30 10:29 編輯 ]
作者: JP 時間: 11-9-11 13:54
原帖由 ANChan59 於 11-9-11 00:27 發表 
For students taking HKALE, they are shortlisted for interview based on HKCEE results.
In HKDSE, without HKCEE, how universities shortlist suitable students for interview? Base on OLE, OEA, internal exam results or IGCSE?
ANChan59,
According to my boy's school, HKU will shortlist for interview based on internal exam(F5 final exam results) and OLE.
作者: khmama 時間: 11-9-11 14:35
原帖由 ANChan59 於 11-9-11 00:27 發表
For students taking HKALE, they are shortlisted for interview based on HKCEE results.
In HKDSE, without HKCEE, how universities shortlist suitable students for interview? Base on OLE, OEA, internal ...
HKU已invite咗學校nominate學生去interview, HKDSE主要睇中五final exam成績加一樣最好既extra-curricular activity.
作者: dailam 時間: 11-9-11 14:51
恕我無知，想請問一下，其實interview 的作用有多大呢？即使是band one 學校，都有頭、中、尾。而且，除了一些很個別的例子，很多學生的eca可能只是一些普通的activity,那麼HKU 又如何甄選？當然我相信兩方面都top的學生一定有offer,但如果只是成績top but eca/ ole 普通，又怎樣呢？
作者: khmama 時間: 11-9-11 15:41
原帖由 dailam 於 11-9-11 14:51 發表
恕我無知，想請問一下，其實interview 的作用有多大呢？即使是band one 學校，都有頭、中、尾。而且，除了一些很個別的例子，很多學生的eca可能只是一些普通的activity,那麼HKU 又如何甄選？當然我相信兩方面都top的學生一定有offe ...
因為學校係根據f.5級名次去nominate top既學生, 所以大學可以提早選擇好學生去offer. 不過我都好想知呢批shortlist既學生會點樣處理, 會唔會好似principal nomination, 會conditional offer, add bonus point, favourable consideration? 個額會用jupas定non-jupas? 幾時知結果?
作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-9-11 17:05
JP & khmama
Based on your description, that is only a sub-scheme of JUPAS - Principal Nomination Scheme.
How about the main round of JUPAS? I don't think all students based on Principal Nomination?
I wonder not many parents ask this critical question for the first batch of HKDSE. Also, 2012 will be double cohorts with HKALE, quite confusing.
ANChan59
作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-9-11 17:13
HKDSE 80-90k students, just based on internal exam how to distingush the best students from the good schools.
I guess SPCC, QC, BPS, DBS, DGS, LS... academic standards may be higher than other schools, so students from local elite schools may be unfavourable in this situation.
作者: khmama 時間: 11-9-11 17:15
原帖由 ANChan59 於 11-9-11 17:05 發表
JP & khmama
Based on your description, that is only a sub-scheme of JUPAS - Principal Nomination Scheme.
How about the main round of JUPAS? I don't think all students based on Principal Nomination?
...
根據principal nomination scheme, 學校係推薦特異功能既學生, 成績未必係好既. 但今次既nomination講明要校內成績優異既學生, 所以我有o的奇怪個程序會係點樣.
作者: khmama 時間: 11-9-11 17:20
原帖由 ANChan59 於 11-9-11 17:13 發表
HKDSE 80-90k students, just based on internal exam how to distingush the best students from the good schools.
I guess SPCC, QC, BPS, DBS, DGS, LS... academic standards may be higher than other school ...
所以傳統名校入U係有優勢既, 如果能擠身前列, 入大學既路會易行o的.
作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-9-11 17:50
原帖由 khmama 於 11-9-11 17:15 發表
根據principal nomination scheme, 學校係推薦特異功能既學生, 成績未必係好既. 但今次既nomination講明要校內成績優異既學生, 所以我有o的奇怪個程序會係點樣. ...
HKDSE is a new exam, universities should be more transparent in admission procedure as it's not the same as HKALE. Also, students should attend the information day and or admission talk of different universities to clarify the sorting mechanism and offerings.......
In this case, I am so glad my son is in IBDP, he will have predicted grades for application. Universities more well accept the international articulated predicted grades.
[ 本帖最後由 ANChan59 於 11-9-11 18:11 編輯 ]
作者: khmama 時間: 11-9-11 21:12
原帖由 ANChan59 於 11-9-11 17:50 發表
HKDSE is a new exam, universities should be more transparent in admission procedure as it's not the same as HKALE. Also, students should attend the information day and or admission talk of different ...
如果根據HKCEE shortlist既AL考生, 又會如何處理?
作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-9-11 21:30
原帖由 khmama 於 11-9-11 21:12 發表
如果根據HKCEE shortlist既AL考生, 又會如何處理?
Should be no difference as previous JUPAS admission procedure.
25-30% HKCEE + 70-75% HKALE results + interview if applicable.
作者: JP 時間: 11-9-11 23:17
原帖由 khmama 於 11-9-11 17:15 發表
根據principal nomination scheme, 學校係推薦特異功能既學生, 成績未必係好既. 但今次既nomination講明要校內成績優異既學生, 所以我有o的奇怪個程序會係點樣. ...
khmama,
How many students(with what sorts of academic results) will your daughter's school nominate for interview?
My boy's school will just nominate all F6 students who attain the min. academic requirements of HKU for interview based on their F5 internal exam results.
I don't believe this is equivalent/similar to principal nomination.
And I'm not sure whether HKU is inviting all secondary schools for nominations or just inviting Grant schools (some 2X traditional elite schools) only at this stage?
I went to a HKU Admission talk last year and got the information that many faculties will start interviews earlier/well before the release of HKDSE results so as to buy more time for sorting good students particularly 2012 is a double cohort year with the 1st batch HKDSE and last batch of HKAL students.
作者: ksenia 時間: 11-9-12 07:40
My daughter's previous school (a band one school in HK island) said they nominate students only based on their academic results in F4 and F5. Those who are top 10-15 in form will be chosen to have an interview. My daughter told me that ECA/OLE is not necessary as many top students only focus on studies and join few activities.
作者: redkoni 時間: 11-9-12 10:59
原帖由 ANChan59 於 11-9-11 17:50 發表
HKDSE is a new exam, universities should be more transparent in admission procedure as it's not the same as HKALE.
Good point. 在這混亂情況下, 我也認為會對傳統名校學生有優勢.
作者: khmama 時間: 11-9-12 20:56
原帖由 JP 於 11-9-11 23:17 發表
khmama,
How many students(with what sorts of academic results) will your daughter's school nominate for interview?
My boy's school will just nominate all F6 students who attain the min. academic r ...
阿女學校起碼nominate咗15個, 阿女都有份, 所以我都有o的緊張, 唔知應該做o的咩去增加佢既chance. 除咗成績top, 學校都叫學生自己提供最好既課外活動成績(optional).
作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-9-12 21:15
原帖由 khmama 於 11-9-12 20:56 發表
阿女學校起碼nominate咗15個, 阿女都有份, 所以我都有o的緊張, 唔知應該做o的咩去增加佢既chance. 除咗成績top, 學校都叫學生自己提供最好既課外活動成績(optional). ...
I wish it's not too late, you can refer my post "Strategies to get into hot professional programs".
作者: yph2005 時間: 11-9-12 22:47 標題: 回覆 16# khmama 的文章
請問你 [阿女學校起碼nominate咗15個], 他們是否全部是9月份入讀中五 或 中六,
及你的女兒全級考15之內, 但中四分了不同科, 點介定全級考15之內? Thanks!
作者: khmama 時間: 11-9-12 23:53
原帖由 yph2005 於 11-9-12 22:47 發表
請問你 [阿女學校起碼nominate咗15個], 他們是否全部是9月份入讀中五 或 中六,
及你的女兒全級考15之內, 但中四分了不同科, 點介定全級考15之內? Thanks!
我個女係第一屆白老鼠. 學校點去計算級名次就不得而知, 可能每科都有weighting都唔定. 所以中五既final exam成績都好重要.
作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-9-13 00:02
原帖由 khmama 於 11-9-12 23:53 發表
我個女係第一屆白老鼠. 學校點去計算級名次就不得而知, 可能每科都有weighting都唔定. 所以中五既final exam成績都好重要.
khmama
Your daughter picked her favorite programs before the nomination.....The ranking and program need to match as well.
Anyway, congratulations.....
ANChan59
作者: khmama 時間: 11-9-13 00:22
原帖由 ANChan59 於 11-9-13 00:02 發表
khmama
Your daughter picked her favorite programs before the nomination.....The ranking and program need to match as well.
Anyway, congratulations.....
ANChan59
ANChan59,
多謝你提供既資料, 的確好有用. 我已經提佢去open day. 佢最喜歡Maths, 會報QFin或精算, 但係都幾難爭, 以你既意見, 唔知邊樣較適合佢?
作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-9-13 00:36
khmama
If you don't mind, pls pm me your daughter's subjects and estimated grades.
May be I can share some thoughts with you....
ANChan59
作者: yph2005 時間: 11-9-13 00:46
謝謝 khmama & ANChan59
另外我想問 Khmama 你的女兒及其他同學都是全部見同一間 U ,
而妳的女兒是否需要補習?今次有無conditon offer?
Anyway, congratulations.....
作者: khmama 時間: 11-9-13 00:59
原帖由 ANChan59 於 11-9-13 00:36 發表
khmama
If you don't mind, pls pm me your daughter's subjects and estimated grades.
May be I can share some thoughts with you....
ANChan59
ANChan59,
Please check pm. thanks.
khmama.
作者: khmama 時間: 11-9-13 01:06
原帖由 yph2005 於 11-9-13 00:46 發表
謝謝 khmama & ANChan59
另外我想問 Khmama 你的女兒及其他同學都是全部見同一間 U ,
而妳的女兒是否需要補習?今次有無conditon offer?
Anyway, congratulations..... ...
今次係HKU invite, 唔知遲o的會唔會有第二間U. 我個女冇補習. 我都想有conditional offer, 最好係unconditional添
, 不過發夢冇咁早.
作者: Lavendar 時間: 11-9-13 13:57
khmama : 請問可否告知 interview 的內容是甚麼 ? 是否去 interview 妳囡囡心目中的學系 ?
原帖由 khmama 於 11-9-12 20:56 發表
阿女學校起碼nominate咗15個, 阿女都有份, 所以我都有o的緊張, 唔知應該做o的咩去增加佢既chance. 除咗成績top, 學校都叫學生自己提供最好既課外活動成績(optional). ...
作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-9-13 14:41
khmama,
Check your PM
ANChan59
作者: khmama 時間: 11-9-13 15:30
原帖由 Lavendar 於 11-9-13 13:57 發表
khmama : 請問可否告知 interview 的內容是甚麼 ? 是否去 interview 妳囡囡心目中的學系 ?
剛剛norminate,我都仲未知幾時interview同埋使唔使諗定報邊科. 只知interview results會交比有關faculty作參考. 可能純粹早o的開始, 跟jupas既interview冇分別, in得好就有分加, 起碼叫做有得in下.
作者: khmama 時間: 11-9-13 15:48
ANChan59,
Please check pm.
khmama.
作者: JP 時間: 11-9-14 16:28
原帖由 khmama 於 11-9-12 20:56 發表
阿女學校起碼nominate咗15個, 阿女都有份, 所以我都有o的緊張, 唔知應該做o的咩去增加佢既chance. 除咗成績top, 學校都叫學生自己提供最好既課外活動成績(optional). ...
khmama,
多謝分享！
妳女好叻呀，全級頭15名，恭喜晒！希望佢能入到QFin/Actuarial Science！
可請師兄姐教路interview成功之道。
作者: goodwill 時間: 11-9-14 18:20
WOW! Khmama, your daughter is so great and you should proud of her. You are really kind and you deserve to have great and smart kids... wish you all the best and daughter can go to the best U and take the best subject. May I know which school your daughter study in ? Once again, thank you very much for keep providing the fruitful information to US.
作者: yph2005 時間: 11-9-14 19:51 標題: 回覆 29# khmama 的文章
Khmama
Please check pm
Thanks!
作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-9-14 21:29
khmama & JP
Your kids are in Grant Schools (22 schools - Territory elite schools) or not?
I would like to check the invitation open for all schools or just targeted schools.
ANChan59
作者: khmama 時間: 11-9-14 22:05
原帖由 ANChan59 於 11-9-14 21:29 發表
khmama & JP
Your kids are in Grant Schools (22 schools - Territory elite schools) or not?
I would like to check the invitation open for all schools or just targeted schools.
ANChan59
其實都冇咩秘密, 以前有留意過我既POST既人都知阿女讀St. Mary's. 據我所知聖母玫瑰都有. 邊22間係傳統英中?
作者: khmama 時間: 11-9-14 22:14
多謝家長既鼓勵, 相信我呢一年會SHARE多o的白老鼠家長既報U心得, 希望幫到其他人.
ANChan59,
想問下AL學生會根據HKCEE成績係JUPAS開始前選人去INTERVIEW, 咁係唔係都選HKCEE成績好既學生, IN完係咪只會加分, 同遲o的IN其實係冇咩分別?
作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-9-14 22:31
原帖由 khmama 於 11-9-14 22:05 發表
其實都冇咩秘密, 以前有留意過我既POST既人都知阿女讀St. Mary's. 據我所知聖母玫瑰都有. 邊22間係傳統英中?
Grant Schools Council
The Grant Schools Council was formed in 1939 to reflect the interests of the Grant Schools. Consists of the head masters and principals of the Grant Schools, there are currently twenty two members. The Council is highly critical of the education reform in recent years, as they see this as an attempt of the government to destroy these 'relic institutes from the former dynasty'.
Grant Schools Represented in the Grant School CouncilFrom wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grant_School_(Hong_Kong)
Personally, I prefer not just limited to Grant Schools.
作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-9-14 22:47 標題: 回覆 35# khmama 的文章
From previous exercise, the interview start right after JUPAS deadline.
Here is some info related to interview from CUHK:
Application Procedures and Interview Arrangements
1. How should I submit the JUPAS application? When is the deadline for application?
JUPAS applications should be submitted to the JUPAS Office and the closing date for application is 5 December 2011. For general enquiries / information on JUPAS, please contact the JUPAS Office at 2803 2200 or visit their website at www.jupas.edu.hk.
2. Which programmes will arrange interview for JUPAS applicants?
The arrangement for the 2012 entry is to be confirmed. You may refer to the 2011 arrangement for reference.
3. Will Band B to Band E applicants be interviewed?
Owing to the large number of applicants, programmes would normally arrange interview for shortlisted Band A applicants. You may refer to the 2011 arrangement for reference.
4. How will I be notified of the interview arrangement?
Interview notifications will be sent by mail, by phone or by email.
作者: khmama 時間: 11-9-14 23:17
咁就唔知係咪只限傳統英中, 聖母玫瑰o個個唔知係咪AL既.
作者: goodwill 時間: 11-9-15 08:42
St mary is a great school and your daughter is the best of the best!
Cheers
作者: goodwill 時間: 11-9-15 08:43
St mary is a great school and your daughter is the best of the best!
Cheers
作者: ickwong 時間: 11-9-15 10:12 標題: 回復 7# khmama 的帖子
khmama,
Please check pm. Thanks.
作者: littleyan 時間: 11-9-15 10:40
我想問吓今年是否沒有了運動員的一條隊, 因為過往運動員
都有另外的一條隊申請入讀大學.
作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-9-15 11:11
原帖由 littleyan 於 11-9-15 10:40 發表
我想問吓今年是否沒有了運動員的一條隊, 因為過往運動員
都有另外的一條隊申請入讀大學.
Yes, you can check the website of individual university.
作者: khmama 時間: 11-9-15 12:44
原帖由 littleyan 於 11-9-15 10:40 發表
我想問吓今年是否沒有了運動員的一條隊, 因為過往運動員
都有另外的一條隊申請入讀大學.
你講既係校長推薦計劃, 新學制都有.
作者: littleyan 時間: 11-9-15 13:05
是否要等到三月份? 九月份只是校長推薦 - Academic
抑或可以直接問校長呢?
作者: RC 時間: 11-9-15 14:48
I guess some universities may start early interviews to hunt for their ideal candidates with their F5 exam results. Bonus points may be given to those with good interview performance. Do you think it will increase the chance to get in the top popular programmes?
作者: khmama 時間: 11-9-15 15:50
原帖由 RC 於 11-9-15 14:48 發表
I guess some universities may start early interviews to hunt for their ideal candidates with their F5 exam results. Bonus points may be given to those with good interview performance. Do you think i ...
如果係popular既科目, 報考既學生成績會好高, 假如HKDSE考得好, bonus point當然可以增加成功機會, 但係成績唔好的話, bonus point都未必有大作用.
作者: khmama 時間: 11-9-15 16:09
原帖由 littleyan 於 11-9-15 13:05 發表
是否要等到三月份? 九月份只是校長推薦 - Academic
抑或可以直接問校長呢?
你可以參考呢條link
http://www.jupas.edu.hk/en/j4/applications/application-procedures/spn
如果係非學術成績既校長推薦, 似乎冇咁早開始, 不過你可以向學校問定, mark咗位先, 因為有名額限制既. 阿女間學校有6個名額, 但講明最好有國際賽事既獎牌.
作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-9-15 16:27 標題: wunma shared the interview classification
Some parents raised questions related to the assessment of interview, one poster in BK - wunma shared about the categories in another post which may be useful to parents.
The link as follow:
http://forum.edu-kingdom.com/vie ... tra=page%3D1&page=3
Quote
報HKU BBA Law, 5月會有面試, 6月會收到電郵, 通知你面試的結果, 分三個category. Category 3代表有substantial increase the chance of admission; Category 2 代表certain extent increase 而Category 1就只能單看高考及會考成績來決定取錄與否.
Please see the following explainations:
Cat 1 -In line with general population of JUPAS applicants for the particular programme you have selected we will simply look at your academic results in the Certificate Examination and in the Advanced Level Examination. From our previous years' experience over 70% of our students have been admitted strictly on the basis of their examination scores.
Cat 2 - Good interview performance
In addition to your academic results there will an adjustment of your final JUPAS score which will to a certain extent increase your chance of admission.
Cat 3 - Very strong interview performance
In addition to your academic results there will be an adjustment of your final JUPAS score which will substantially increase your chances of admission.
嘗試說清楚點, 如發覺有錯請知情人士更正.
以HKU, CU同HKUST為例, 各自有一套計分法, 得出一個scores來為所有報讀生排名, 如面試表現好, 會有額外分加在total scores上.
UST中學會考分同高考分是4比6; CU是5:5, 所以如會考分數低, 入中大搶手的科目機會微, 中文科更必定要C或以上才合資格報讀; HKU高考佔的比重最高, 所以說HKU差不多只看成績, 面試的表現影響不太大.
前文說的CAT 1, 是面試表現一般, 所以基本上只看高考成績來派名;
CAT 2是表現良好, 有額外分;
CAT 3是表現最突出, 會有很大的額外分加.
舉例如一位同學高考分中上但加上面試分後, 可能排名會比另一位高考好過他而面試沒分加的同學為高.
[ 本帖最後由 ANChan59 於 11-9-15 16:31 編輯 ]
作者: littleyan 時間: 11-9-15 16:59 標題: 回復 1# khmama 的帖子
終於明白哂, 多謝幫忙! 感激萬分!
作者: ha8mo 時間: 11-9-15 18:11
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呢張係咪hku既校長推薦計劃既form?經學校定個人伸請?
作者: dailam 時間: 11-9-15 20:09
today, my daughter's school held a career talk to S5 students. One thing mentioned about preparation for jupas is the school's reference report compiled both by school and student. The school has to fill in 2 forms, one about the ability of that particular student, anothr about the academic performance of the student (60% S5 final exam and 40% S6 first test). Student has to compile the SLP and OLE part. But the school didn't mention about nomination and there isn't any item for the school to tick whether that particular student is nominated or not. Acoording to the teacher of my daughter's school, this report will be sent to Jupas for different u to shortlist students for interview.
I am wondering whether it is the same as khmama's case , the only difference is that St. Mary is willing to disclose that they will "nominate" or write a "all excellence" report fot students ranked 1-15. Or there is still another stage of school nomination apart from what I have mentioned above.
Anyone has any idea?
作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-9-15 20:18 標題: 回覆 53# dailam 的文章
Thanks dailam
Your inputs are highly appreciated. I started this post to draw parents attention on the university admission. That's important to us but not much discuss in BK........
11 more months to go...... Add oil.....
ANChan59
作者: khmama 時間: 11-9-15 20:33
原帖由 dailam 於 11-9-15 20:09 發表
today, my daughter's school held a career talk to S5 students. One thing mentioned about preparation for jupas is the school's reference report compiled both by school and student. The school has to f ...
應該唔同, 中五家長會時學校都提過會用中五final同中六第一次試既成績交比考試局, 呢樣係間間學校都要做既嘢, 但冇規定學校用邊一次考試同比重. 至於非學術既校長推薦都有家長問, 學校已表明有6個位, 但要有國際獎項好o的. 所以今次hku邀請學校nominate學生, 可能想早o的開始選人, 學校只須代交成績同一樣award既資料就得. 依家冇咗拔尖, o的大學可能得閒o的.
作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-9-15 21:17
原帖由 khmama 於 11-9-15 20:33 發表
應該唔同, 中五家長會時學校都提過會用中五final同中六第一次試既成績交比考試局, 呢樣係間間學校都要做既嘢, 但冇規定學校用邊一次考試同比重. 至於非學術既校長推薦都有家長問, 學校已表明有6個位, 但要有國際獎 ...
khmama
I guess HKU invited some top schools to nominate students to replace the EAS, that's what you described in your post.
From the tell-tales, I think HKU only approached schools had students got into HKU through EAS...... not just Grant schools, it's fair.
What do you think?
ANChan59
作者: khmama 時間: 11-9-15 22:23
原帖由 ANChan59 於 11-9-15 21:17 發表
khmama
I guess HKU invited some top schools to nominate students to replace the EAS, that's what you described in your post.
From the tell-tales, I think HKU only approached schools had students g ...
以學校行政角度, 唔排除呢個可能, 所以我先想知道會唔會用non-jupas個額去收. 不過如果只係憑校內成績, 似乎唔夠公平同說服力. 我諗都係當佢同AL提早IN人既程序一樣會合理o的.
作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-9-15 23:35
原帖由 khmama 於 11-9-15 22:23 發表
以學校行政角度, 唔排除呢個可能, 所以我先想知道會唔會用non-jupas個額去收. 不過如果只係憑校內成績, 似乎唔夠公平同說服力. 我諗都係當佢同AL提早IN人既程序一樣會合理o的. ...
I guess EAS quota instead of non-JUPAS quota...
作者: khmama 時間: 11-9-15 23:53
原帖由 ANChan59 於 11-9-15 23:35 發表
I guess EAS quota instead of non-JUPAS quota...
每間u係咪都有一個EAS quota? 依家冇咗EAS, 個quota係咪應該拚咗入jupas個quota? 如果大學可以自行處置呢個 EAS quota, 確有機會大學自己去拔尖搶尖子. 依家只可以等, 睇下之後會有咩安排.
作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-9-16 00:04
原帖由 khmama 於 11-9-15 23:53 發表
每間u係咪都有一個EAS quota? 依家冇咗EAS, 個quota係咪應該拚咗入jupas個quota? 如果大學可以自行處置呢個 EAS quota, 確有機會大學自己去拔尖搶尖子. 依家只可以等, 睇下之後會有咩安排. ...
EAS only 420 quota, most took best students. In medicine, 1/3 : 1/3 : 1/3 EAS : JUPAS : non-JUPAS. From my understanding, no more EAS, the quota may splitted between JUPAS and non-JUPAS.
If I were the admission officer, I will take the best students not necessary JUPAS. In general, they prefer IBDP > GCE AL > HD > AD.... in non-JUPAS.
作者: daisychan 時間: 11-9-16 14:33 標題: 回復 60# ANChan59 的帖子
How do you get the quota of 420 for EAS?
My understanding from the previous local EAS briefing sessions of HKU/CUHK/HKUST in 2010 and the discussions with the senior admission officer of HKUST is that:-
(1) For each study programme, the ratio is 1/3:1/3:1/3 for local EAS:JUPAS:non-JUPAS as you said.
(2) For non-local EAS, the quota goes under "Non-JUPAS", not "EAS" which is solely for local students using HKCEE results.
(3) As far as condition (1) is satisfied, all the 3 U's can admit all the eligible local EAS applicants, not limited by any "overall quota".
(4) In the past few years, the number of eligible local EAS applicants is around 410-430 every year. So, it may be how the figure of "420" comes out. But I note that, for year 2011, the number of eligible local EAS students jumps to slightly over 500 as more students get better HKCEE results that year. I think all of them will be admitted as far as they apply through the scheme.
(5) Notwithstanding (1) above, some faculties of CUHK & HKU are more tricky to admit more EAS students beyond the 1/3 quota by applying the quota on the "overall" degree programmes, not the individual programmes. For example,
CUHK: BBA(Global Business) admitted 13 EAS students out of the "15" places, i.e., only 2 places left behind for JUPAS candidates. They use the overall places under all the BBA programmes to satisfy the "1/3" rule.
Similarly, HKU: BBA(Law) admitted 43 local EAS students out of the "65" places.
Yes, it is unfair to the JUPAS candidates. Situation will be changed as local EAS scheme no longer exists.
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作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-9-16 17:41 標題: 回復 61# daisychan 的帖子
Daisy
Thanks for your detail ellaboration of EAS, even it's no more EAS after transition to HKDSE.
Yes, 420 is an average no. of previous years EAS successful candidates, except 2011. I only keep track JUPAS upto 2010, then I shift my focus to non-JUPAS.
Your remarks 1-4 are self-explanatory and valid. For remark 5, it's known to public that CUHK & HKU maximise their 1/3 EAS quota to get the cream students. HKUST may feel unfair but eventually most elites may target traditional hot professional programs which she can't offer like Law, Medicine....
For EAS, I don't say it's fair or unfair. I guess universities may identify some correlation between HKCEE & HKALE results. If those EAS students are cream of the cream, even taking HKALE, most of them still have priority to take the most popular programs. It's a fair competition and application process.
Thanks again for your remarks.
ANChan59
作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-9-25 20:54 標題: HKUST - Business School
This morning went to HKUST, unfortunately, today only for HKDSE JUPAS students, HKALE & non-JUPAS seminars were held on Saturday.
We're disappointed, but my son talked to 2 admission officers and got some useful info related to the B school.
1. The B school will be school based and common first year. They will take the students into BBA in general, even you apply for the Global Business or QF.
2. For QF and Economics and Finance, after first year, you will stream to programs more "suitable" to you.
3. For BBA, you will stream to Global Business, Accounting ...... base on the two years academic results, so you may not end up in Global Business even you admitted the program in day one.
So if you are interested in HKUST's business programs, be careful and good luck.
作者: JP 時間: 11-9-26 15:57 標題: 回復 1# ANChan59 的帖子
ANChan59,
Thanks for sharing!
It seems that HKUST is adopting "school based admission" similar to HKU's "faculty based admission" such as Science Faculty. But hku Science faculty admission is further divided as Bachelor for Sc. and Bachelor for Sc.(Actuarial) which is more sensible I think.
UST's new admission policy is some how misleading and unfair unless they treat admission to Business School as one choice without further divisions for QF, Global Business, etc.
作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-9-26 16:19 標題: 回復 64# JP 的帖子
JP
I guess the management pushed this approach. The School may need further massage the process.
From my understanding, they may offer BBA alone, but other universities may take the hot programs out of the approach, they may need firther consideration.....
ANChan59
作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-9-26 18:10 標題: HKUST School-based Admission
JP
Don't mislead you, i copy and paste the info from HKUST UG admission for your reference....
Quote
Under the new academic structure, HKUST will provide students with broader knowledge base and flexibility in learning. We will expand the school based admissions system to all 4 schools (Science, Engineering, Business & Management and Humanities & Social Science) currently running UG programs.
Prospective HKUST students only need to opt the school they wish to join. In the first two to three semesters (one to one-and-a-half-year), they will take the compulsory University Core Curriculum Program, also learning the fundamentals of the major programs of the school.
Students may use this period to explore their aptitude and interest before deciding on their path of study.
They can choose to study and graduate with single major, double majors, single major with a minor or an interdisciplinary program. Along with the study path they have opted, they will have ample opportunities to enjoy a slew of co-curricular programs and enrichment activities aimed at widening their exposure and fostering whole person development.
Unquote
http://urao.ust.hk/local_4yr_admission.html
ANChan59
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作者: JP 時間: 11-9-26 20:22
原帖由 ANChan59 於 11-9-26 16:19 發表
JP
I guess the management pushed this approach. The School may need further massage the process.
From my understanding, they may offer BBA alone, but other universities may take the hot programs out ...
Let's wait and see what are the admission policies of CU/HKU in particular those hot programmes.
作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-9-26 22:56
原帖由 JP 於 11-9-26 20:22 發表
Let's wait and see what are the admission policies of CU/HKU in particular those hot programmes.
Yes, wait and see.
BTW, HKUST may announce some "fine-tuning " policy like EAS to counter-act the HKU's principal nomination scheme....
作者: khmama 時間: 11-9-28 22:16 標題: 回復 68# ANChan59 的帖子
據我所知UST會容許一o的文憑試成績優異既考生yr2時可以直升心儀學系, 無需要再分流,但點樣為之優異就仲未定. 呢個做法都公平o的, 起碼secure咗個學位, 唔會因為大學成績失手而入唔到理想學科.
作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-9-28 22:57 標題: 回復 69# khmama 的帖子
I also heard about that and they called it 'Magic Line"......but how to draw the line, they still consider that....
I guess they will announce the detail very soon......just for HKDSE this year and for IBDP next year....
IB admission score for BBA (Should be BBA, I mixed it up with GBus. For GBus 39-42 included bonus point per Daisy Chan's info) around 33-36 excluded bonus point. After transition to HKDSE, the IB admission score will be lowered as HKDSE standard will be below IBDP......
[ 本帖最後由 ANChan59 於 11-9-30 10:26 編輯 ]
作者: daisychan 時間: 11-9-29 23:03 標題: 回復 70# ANChan59 的帖子
As I know, for Year 2010, the IB admission score for HKUST BBA(GBUS) is 39-42, including the bonus points.
作者: daisychan 時間: 11-9-29 23:30 標題: 回復 63# ANChan59 的帖子
ANChan59,
Just like you, I orginally planned to attend the HKUST admission talk on last Sunday(25 Sept) to collect some information for non-JUPAS applicants. Fortunately, I visited the HKUST website last Friday and noted that they re-named the 25 Sept admission talks as "JUPAS" admission talks. I called the admission office and they confirmed that the only one talk on "non-JUPAS admission with international qualifications" was the one held on last Saturday at 10a.m.
So, I rescheduled my committments and attended the talk last Saturday. Here are some salient points regarding the IB qualifications that I can share with you and other parents:
(1) Although the mininum IB score quoted in their website is 30, they have never admitted any applicant with an IB score less than 32.
(2) In 2010, a total of 66 applicants with IB qualication were admitted to the HKUST Year 1 programs.
(3) The average IB score is 36.7 for HKUST and 34.3 for all the local universities.
(4) It seems that, among all the international qualifications, HKUST prefers IB most (you must agree with this, and not just for HKUST!). They has even set up a scholarship especially for IB qualification, and not other international qualifications.
作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-9-30 09:31
原帖由 daisychan 於 11-9-29 23:03 發表
As I know, for Year 2010, the IB admission score for HKUST BBA(GBUS) is 39-42, including the bonus points.
Daisy
You are right 39-42 IB scores for GBUS. I talked to the admission officers, they quoted for 33-36 (Excluded bonus points) for BBA as per School Based Admission (I amended my previous post and thanks for your clarification). IB will have another "Magic line", they are not working on that right now, but they may lower the requirement relative to HKDSE in coming months.
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作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-9-30 09:56 標題: 回復 72# daisychan 的帖子
Daisy
Thanks so much for your updated info of HKUST. You always provide some useful info about HKUST. Some quick remarks of your info
(1) Although the mininum IB score quoted in their website is 30, they have never admitted any applicant with an IB score less than 32. (Not in Buiness School, but yes in other Schools. Initially, Schools even accepted some students' IB score less than 30 and they struggled, then kicked out from the university - Info from Science and Engineering professors.)
(4) It seems that, among all the international qualifications, HKUST prefers IB most (you must agree with this, and not just for HKUST!). They has even set up a scholarship especially for IB qualification, and not other international qualifications. (From my limited info after discussing with professors from local universities, they preferred IB among international qualifications. For some traditional hot programs, they still prefer local curricullum. HKUST sets up scholarships for international qualifications, not just IB alone. For IB, they listed out the min req and schedule. Other qualifications, they just quote outstanding academic results. A professor told me that in HKUST, IB score 35 definitely will have a scholarship.)
If you don't mind, we should moved/copied our discussions to "NSS vs IB", as this post more focus on HKDSE.
ANChan59
[ 本帖最後由 ANChan59 於 11-9-30 10:45 編輯 ]
作者: 9498mami 時間: 11-9-30 14:31
請問 HKUST 理學院 (School of Science)難唔難入嫁？？
作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-9-30 19:29
原帖由 9498mami 於 11-9-30 14:31 發表
請問 HKUST 理學院 (School of Science)難唔難入嫁？？
http://www.jupas.edu.hk/upload/useful_material/af_2010.pdf
You can compare the science programs' admission grades among HKU, CUHK and HKUST, you can have better understanding the grades.
you also need to check the no. of places in those science programs.
作者: qsr58 時間: 11-10-3 22:39
334真係好煩= =
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