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作者: MPSVIC 時間: 11-9-5 11:59 標題: victoria shanghai academy
Just wondering if there is anyone here whose kids are taking victoria shanghai academy at all. What do u think of that 'school' in terms of the school fees increment lately? To be honest, it is way more expensive than 英基............
作者: stccmc 時間: 11-9-5 12:29
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作者: cherubic 時間: 11-9-5 13:50
To be honest, the school fee is reasonable having regard to two teachers serving a class of 28 without any other source of income.
原帖由 MPSVIC 於 11-9-5 11:59 發表 
Just wondering if there is anyone here whose kids are taking victoria shanghai academy at all. What do u think of that 'school' in terms of the school fees increment lately? To be honest, it is way ...
作者: mattsmum 時間: 11-9-5 19:20 標題: 回復 3# MPSVIC 的帖子
Vsa has lot more Chinese.
作者: MPSVIC 時間: 11-9-5 21:57
原帖由 cherubic 於 11-9-5 05:50 發表
To be honest, the school fee is reasonable having regard to two teachers serving a class of 28 without any other source of income.
作者: MPSVIC 時間: 11-9-5 21:59
原帖由 mattsmum 於 11-9-5 11:20 發表
Vsa has lot more Chinese.
作者: mattsmum 時間: 11-9-5 22:42 標題: 回覆 1# MPSVIC 的文章
it is not an IS.
作者: MPSVIC 時間: 11-9-6 12:33
It is not, I know but just it is charging us IS fees! that's why we are so pissed off.
原帖由 mattsmum 於 11-9-5 14:42 發表
it is not an IS.
作者: samelsaho 時間: 11-9-7 01:35 標題: 回復 6# cherubic 的帖子
記得兩三年前問過VSA, 學校係就係雙班主任制,但只有兩科係同時有兩位老師上課, 唔知依家係未一樣。
作者: cherubic 時間: 11-9-7 09:35 標題: 回覆 9# samelsaho 的文章
English and Chinese - Yes [e.g. last year, they had two English teachers, the other one from another class of the same grade, presumably that class had other lesson at that time]
UOI - The two class teachers are responsible but not knowing how they allocate their work.
This is what I know from my kid's class.
作者: kfy 時間: 11-9-7 09:51
原帖由 MPSVIC 於 11-9-6 12:33 發表
It is not, I know but just it is charging us IS fees! that's why we are so pissed off.
Are you a VSA parent or are you considering the school ?
What I heard from my friends with kids in VSA, their comments are pretty good.
ESF is a bit cheaper because of government subsidy; but the government is continuously reviewing the policy. If ESF loses the subsidy, it may become one of the most expensive schools in HK. $400,000 nomination rights for Discovery College - Probably it's just a pilot for all ESF schools ... Sigh ...
作者: Radiomama 時間: 11-9-7 13:02
IS=good english??
Non chinese student=good learning environment??
VSA is not an IS but an IB school. Could it provide international aspects, good learning environment and teachers? If yes, what the point of IS or not?!
作者: poonseelai 時間: 11-9-7 17:13
Totally agreed.
VSA never claims itself to be an international school.
It is a private bilingual school providing the IB programme.
It has no government subsidy, no financial support from other religious or charity groups.
So everything is funded by school fees.
Whether VSA is classified as an international school according to the Education Dept or not has nothing to do with the quality of education it offers.
HK is still a free market.
If one finds the “product” of VSA not meeting one’s expectation, he/she could go for other choices.
As a VSA parent, I would say VSA is a good school, though not a perfect one.
There is always room for improvement.
I tried but fail to find the official definition of an international school in the website of the Education Dept.
It seems that an international school is for non-chinese children.
So what’s the definition of non-chinese children.
Interestingly, ESF recently said that as more than 70% (correct me if my memory is wrong) of its students are from HK families, they should get more government subsidies.
Just wonder how come these 70% HK families are classified as non-chinese if the parents are HK Chinese.
I know in many case, parents only train their children to speak English so that they have higher chances of getting into ESF.
作者: WYmom 時間: 11-9-7 17:48
原帖由 poonseelai 於 11-9-7 17:13 發表
Totally agreed.
VSA never claims itself to be an international school.
It is a private bilingual school providing the IB programme.
It has no government subsidy, no financial support from other religi ...
Local families do not equal to Chinese families,
Local residents not equal to 100% Chinese people. There are many nationalities of people in HK.
VSA and ESF are not the same type of schools and they have different target of students.
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作者: poonseelai 時間: 11-9-7 17:56
原帖由 WYmom 於 11-9-7 17:48 發表
Local families do not equal to Chinese families,
Local residents not equal to 100% Chinese people. There are many nationalities of people in HK.
VSA and ESF are not the same type of schools and t ...
Right, there are different target groups. I quote ESF just for an example. I would image the "real" non-chinese students has already been included in the remaining 30%
作者: WYmom 時間: 11-9-7 18:15
原帖由 poonseelai 於 11-9-7 17:56 發表
Right, there are different target groups. I quote ESF just for an example. I would image the "real" non-chinese students has already been included in the remaining 30%
The remaining 30% are non-local residents, does not mean that they are Chinese or not Chinese. Just clarify that the Chinese to non-Chinese % in ESF is not 70 to 30. 70% is the % of LOCAL residents (people who have lived in HK for 7 years).
I agree with you that VSA is a good private bilingual school and parents can choose schools according to their expectations.
I think maybe VSA is more similar to ISF rather than ESF. ISF's fee is a lot more expensive than VSA and it is also not an international school.
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作者: slamai 時間: 11-9-7 18:54
ISF's primary school is not IB PYP. RC of the ESF group is a closer match which can provide through-train all IB bilingual (English & Chinese) education for primary to pre-U students.
原帖由 WYmom 於 11-9-7 18:15 發表
The remaining 30% are non-local residents, does not mean that they are Chinese or not Chinese. Just clarify that the Chinese to non-Chinese % in ESF is not 70 to 30. 70% is the % of LOCAL resident ...
作者: poonseelai 時間: 11-9-7 21:07
原帖由 WYmom 於 11-9-7 18:15 發表
The remaining 30% are non-local residents, does not mean that they are Chinese or not Chinese. Just clarify that the Chinese to non-Chinese % in ESF is not 70 to 30. 70% is the % of LOCAL resident ...
Thanks for the clarification.
作者: MPSVIC 時間: 11-9-7 22:38
It is a free market alright. But it is only part of the picture when your kid take the skul for that many years and esp when he/she is at his/her DP level now. I dun see how it is classified as a good school when teachers as well as principal are not listening to students. My experience is there is a teacher only cares about the schedule of the IB's while the kids are totally not seeing what he is teaching in his math class. The kid only started the term for 1 week and there are tests piling up just because this 'nice' teacher needs to follow the schedule. What about the other classes? They are learning in greater details. Believe me, this teacher is such a 'fame' among students in regard of his teaching mode. What about writing to principal? The answer is 'Does he care?' When your kids participate in this kinda school for that long, please understand it is not easy for them to adjust for or transfer to any other schools as easily as you said. It is a free world, free market, but not your choice somehow. Your comments are rather theoretical. I am sorry to say that.
原帖由 poonseelai 於 11-9-7 09:13 發表
Totally agreed.
VSA never claims itself to be an international school.
It is a private bilingual school providing the IB programme.
It has no government subsidy, no financial support from other religi ...
作者: poonseelai 時間: 11-9-8 00:20
原帖由 MPSVIC 於 11-9-7 22:38 發表
It is a free market alright. But it is only part of the picture when your kid take the skul for that many years and esp when he/she is at his/her DP level now. I dun see how it is classified as a go ...
I see, you are a VSA parent. Two challenging years are ahead of you and your child. I wish your kid good luck with the DP and the exam.
Seems your main concern is with the math subject. Perhaps you will again think I'm theroetical, still, I suggest that you talk to management if this is really a problem/concern for your child.
作者: MPSVIC 時間: 11-9-8 11:15
I really appreciate for your suggestion. I am not a student, rather, I am a parent. VSA was good in the past. But not since it started with the new site. To be very honest, from what I heard from my kid and his/her peers, everything is degrading. There was millions of deficit the school is suffering but the hike of school fee mainly is for the increase of staff salary which is over 40%. This is nuts.原帖由 poonseelai 於 11-9-7 16:20 發表
I see, you are a VSA parent. Two challenging years are ahead of you and your child. I wish your kid good luck with the DP and the exam.
Seems your main concern is with the math subject. Perhaps ...
作者: slamai 時間: 11-9-9 17:46
I'm not sure what kind of deficit you refer to though there was a significant capital expenditure in respect of the new sports hall during the past year on top of VSA's normal operating expenses. If you mention the deterioration of teaching (which I don't consider to be categorical) since moving to the new campus, it should rather be due to the increasing number of IB schools in Hong Kong during these recent years which has drawn experienced IB teachers from VSA to other IB and/or international schools, bearing in mind that VSA is the first through-train (PYP, MYP and DP) IB world school in Hong Kong. I understand that the remuneration of VSA academic staff is not as good as some other IB/international schools and, in order to retain those valuable human resources, VSA has chosen to drastically increase its tuition fees. The unpopular maths teacher you mentioned in an earlier post probably reflects the current situation that VSA has to retain some teaching staff even though their performance may not be very satisfactory from the students' and parents' perspectives. Anyhow, every school has good and bad teachers (even in schools recruiting top students). Its sometimes a matter of luck whether our kids have good teachers in the new school year. As a DP student, your kid should be more independent and also seek the help of his/her classmates who may be academically more capable. As the DP examination is an external one, students should work together, e.g. sharing notes, exam papers, study guides, etc. in their preparation rather than just study on their own individually. Nevertheless, given that VSA's DP students have MYP experience, they have an advantage over those DP students taking IGCSE at the end of their year 11, say in ESF schools. I hope the above is of assistance.
原帖由 MPSVIC 於 11-9-8 11:15 發表
I really appreciate for your suggestion. I am not a student, rather, I am a parent. VSA was good in the past. But not since it started with the new site. To be very honest, from what I heard from ...
作者: MPSVIC 時間: 11-9-9 23:29
Sounds like you are working at VSA to me. About the deficit, I believe it is the overall deficit and I am not sure what Khoong was referring when she stated on he letter to parents requesting for school fee increment. It is not an IS and we should not compare it with other IS or under such catagory. Teaching quality is one issue, how management deals with it is another. I am very disappointed as no one there seems to care much at all about students' development. My kid is rather independent on his group study and project. What you say has been done by him. But when u think a teacher should carry out a proper role in teaching while he is not, I dun think u will be happy about it. When students try to sort help from him, he does pay much attention on the problem or his problems at all. We have a very clear picture about what's going on inside and what I speak out here is a solid fact. How can u ask a class to sit for a test when teacher only finishes the first 2 pages of the chapter and expects everyone understands? Is that really a matter of being independent or the teacher is being lazy? School work is tremendous, and can u believe a kid at VSA needs to work till 11 from 430 every day and almost whole day during weekends? If this only happens to my kid, I will worry abt his competency. But this actually happens to every other one, what is it? One of a student's parent actually meets the principal and discuss about this and the consequence is a promise from the principal that he will not expect student to spend over 2hours each day on homework but do u think it is implemented? Let me tell you this student is a top one in the grade. There is a lousy management who really doesn't know how to develop the school in terms of budgeting, quality of teachers, student developements, etc. Y kids need to work so late every day? Y it spends so much, as I said over 40%, on salary increment when there is such a deficit? I dun think I /u will get any satisfactory answers at all. Over 50% DP students' parents oppose such hike who consider unacceptable. From students' point of view, a lot of complaints go around and there is no way out for them. It is such a 'gift' from the so called management. By the way, do u wanna know what comments those teachers who left school this year made? I think u can figure it out by now.原帖由 slamai 於 11-9-9 09:46 發表
I'm not sure what kind of deficit you refer to though there was a significant capital expenditure in respect of the new sports hall during the past year on top of VSA's normal operating expenses. If y ...
作者: poonseelai 時間: 11-9-10 00:17
原帖由 MPSVIC 於 11-9-9 23:29 發表
Sounds like you are working at VSA to me. About the deficit, I believe it is the overall deficit and I am not sure what Khoong was referring when she stated on he letter to parents requesting for sch ...
Does anyone have information about workload of other schools running DP in HK? Are DP students generally expected to spend long hours doing homework everyday or is VSA's workload unreasonably high?
The son of my friend who studied all the way from playgroup to DP in Victoria attended the DP exam this May. My friend said it was really hard work in those 2 years, and when her son got the result he thought it's worth it.
作者: mattsmum 時間: 11-9-10 15:36 標題: 回覆 2# MPSVIC 的文章
430 to 11.? This is a short period. Those working on igcse take even a longer periods. DP is never an easy course.
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作者: Annie123 時間: 11-9-10 16:13
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作者: MPSVIC 時間: 11-9-11 09:23
I think you are speaking outta theory. I bet when u see how kids are working like, u will fire exactly the same as I do. Ur kids are not taking the same school or working like that so that u think it is alright but there may be a day in the future u will perceive what it is like working that many hours per day for the whole year when ur kid experience it. If you compare this issue with other traditional schools among the same grade in Hong Kong, u will find it is uncommon. If you think this is a good way to train HK students, I wouldnt doubt there is no creativity amongs kids here as time is totally looted by some redudant school works. I hope ur not a teacher. U think I am protecting those kids? U are wrong, and as a matter of fact, I want them to explore more outside school works, but there are only 24 hours a day. I want the kids to work more apart from text. Unfortunately, this is not the environment to provide. Please remember too much workload for any kid will kill their imagination and the power of being creative.原帖由 Annie123 於 11-9-10 08:13 發表
I guess it is not uncommon for students to work long hours, no matter what curriculum. Workload itself is one issue, time management is another thing that some students might find it a challenge.
作者: mattsmum 時間: 11-9-11 11:24 標題: 回覆 1# MPSVIC 的文章
What you say is absolutely right. Unfortunately, this is not the ibdp as I heard from other IS.
Conversation:
First year ibdp:
sept oct- why i take ibdp? It is a lot of hard work
Christmas- it is getting better now, i know how to handle it, but it is a hard.
Summer- I really really hate ib, I will never take it if I knew.
Second year of ibdp- spring- I am getting used to it.
First year in university:
Sept- dear teacher, I am writing to you because I find out that ibdp had me a lot, I can even skip some courses in university. I love ib!
This is what I heard from an ib coordinator. Ib is never easy. It needs a lot of hard work.
Noted that 334 students also complaint about going back to school in this summer holiday.
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作者: Radiomama 時間: 11-9-11 14:51
Agree no more! IBDP is not easy. My colleague's son studies at LPC for the second year and he works extremely hard for the course and the coming exam.
原帖由 mattsmum 於 11-9-10 15:36 發表
430 to 11.? This is a short period. Those working on igcse take even a longer periods. DP is never an easy course.
作者: MPSVIC 時間: 11-9-12 09:25
Thanks for your info. But I think it is the fake responsibility that management is trying to show parents and the way they spend after a huge deficit was disclosed. Besides, it is the quality of those unreasonable teachers that really pisses me off! Just like I am paying the price for Pennisula hotel buffet but it ends up I am eating something made in china!原帖由 mattsmum 於 11-9-11 03:24 發表
What you say is absolutely right. Unfortunately, this is not the ibdp as I heard from other IS.
Conversation:
First year ibdp:
sept oct- why i take ibdp? It is a lot of hard work
Christmas- it is ...
作者: mattsmum 時間: 11-9-12 17:56 標題: 回覆 1# MPSVIC 的文章
it is a terrible thing that there are teachers not good enough as teachers played such an important role in this last round of work.you have to figure out how to help the child to go through this tough time.
IBDP is difficult and expensive. Parents should know before they choose.
here are the data collected over the years( name, fee per month, average score),
HK/China:
上海中学 10313 37
CxS 16400 36.6
CDxxS 12600 34.7
ExF 9710 34.3
Yx 13858 34
Dulwixh shanghai 22148 34(2009)
FxS 13100 33
KCxS 8200 33
VxA 12000 32.6
Rx 10290 32.6 (2010)
UK
Nxrth London Collegiate
17000 40
Sevenxaks 24400 39.30
Bedfxrd 19270 38.00
Malvxrn College 24400 35.30
King Willixm's 17,631 32.60
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作者: slamai 時間: 11-9-14 17:03
A lot of homework from local schools can be considered to be redundant because of repetitiveness. I don't think this is the case of VSA.
原帖由 MPSVIC 於 11-9-11 09:23 發表
I think you are speaking outta theory. I bet when u see how kids are working like, u will fire exactly the same as I do. Ur kids are not taking the same school or working like that so that u think i ...
作者: slamai 時間: 11-9-14 17:04
Can't agree more.
原帖由 mattsmum 於 11-9-10 15:36 發表
430 to 11.? This is a short period. Those working on igcse take even a longer periods. DP is never an easy course.
作者: slamai 時間: 11-9-14 17:06
I'm a 2nd year DP parent!
原帖由 MPSVIC 於 11-9-9 23:29 發表
Sounds like you are working at VSA to me. About the deficit, I believe it is the overall deficit and I am not sure what Khoong was referring when she stated on he letter to parents requesting for sch ...
作者: MPSVIC 時間: 11-9-15 09:36
well, sounds like you dun seem to notice how much workload your kid has or he/she does not care about working on it at all. I mean if you do, u should be able to notice how much time he/she needs to spend every day on his desk. What you said about redundancy has been obsolete for those locals somehow. I noticed it cos I have another kid studying at a prestigious school in Hong Kong and workload there is very reasonable and variety of activities are given to kids in order to let them learn and being creative at the same time. Homework is never heavy which is what the school tries to do all the time, and kids there r so happy there! Does VSA provide the same thing? I honestly suggest you to pay more attention to your kid esp on his workload and health. I understand u may be busy at work and that's probably y u miss a lot and can only tell me based on theory. Good luck!原帖由 slamai 於 11-9-14 09:03 發表
A lot of homework from local schools can be considered to be redundant because of repetitiveness. I don't think this is the case of VSA.
作者: MPSVIC 時間: 11-9-15 09:48
Agree no more. But wat I am trying to emphazie is this school fee hike in this year, I mean over 40% increase of staff salary comes outta school fee increment. Staff qualify has never been this worse. Management is lousy and chaotic. A lot of school works of students look productive but u can hardly find it is so. Students do research works in these days basically from internet, and frankly it is a process of cut and paste. Do students really learn much from this mode of learning? Esp when they need to meet deadline of handing in assignments, do they care or know what they are doing? I strongly doutbt it. Dun u? The worst thing I heard is some teachers practically do not teach much and not very care if students understand or not. Students came to him, but that will only worsen off. haha! Terrible school!原帖由 mattsmum 於 11-9-11 03:24 發表
What you say is absolutely right. Unfortunately, this is not the ibdp as I heard from other IS.
Conversation:
First year ibdp:
sept oct- why i take ibdp? It is a lot of hard work
Christmas- it is ...
作者: poonseelai 時間: 11-9-15 21:36
原帖由 MPSVIC 於 11-9-15 09:48 發表
Agree no more. But wat I am trying to emphazie is this school fee hike in this year, I mean over 40% increase of staff salary comes outta school fee increment. Staff qualify has never been this wors ...
MPSVIC
I note that you are unhappy about the school in a number of ways, you think it will be difficult for your kid to move to other schools after having spent such a long time at the school and you believe that management is not going to listen & improve. So, what would be your next move, in particular, your kid is now in the last 2 years of secondary school preparing for entrance to universities? I'm not sure whether your kid is aware of your unhappiness about the school, and if he/she does, will this affect his/her study in a negative way.
There is a Chinese saying: 山不轉路轉,路不轉人轉,人不轉心轉. In your opinion, is there any good thing that VSA can provide to your kid in the coming 2 years? Hope you will try to make best use of the good things to help your kid.
作者: mattsmum 時間: 11-9-15 22:27 標題: 回覆 2# MPSVIC 的文章
這幾年多了好多IB學校，人人都要請IB老師。如果我是老師會把頭放出去給人獵。通賬又高，港元還跟美元貶值不少，如何留著IB老師？
作者: MPSVIC 時間: 11-9-16 12:26
To be very honest to you, it is not just my kid who feel helpless when it comes to issues like teaching quality, workload (but this year, so far at least, is not as worse as last year's cos the PP last year is very demanding to a point they all need to take care of ordinary schoolwork as well as making sure periodic deadlines of this particular project is met. ) Yes, there is no way out those kids as far as my kid told me. Most of his classmates already left abroad. Comments from them is 早走早著！This tells parents how disappointed students are at VSA. My kid is very good at the grades but it is just not fair when he tries to learn, tries to grasp as much as he can, teachers are being lazy and irresponsible regardless the unreasonable increase of school fee for the years to come...... I appreciate for your concern and care, I do! Have a good life.原帖由 mattsmum 於 11-9-15 14:27 發表
這幾年多了好多IB學校，人人都要請IB老師。如果我是老師會把頭放出去給人獵。通賬又高，港元還跟美元貶值不少，如何留著IB老師？
作者: MPSVIC 時間: 11-9-16 12:36
Then y dun we increase salary of those IB teachers 1000% and make even equivalent to the one of university professor? Does it sound fair to you? To me, education quality is not something we measure in nominal value. If your good, ur worthy the pay. But if this essential requirement of being a teacher is not able to be accomplished, I suggest he/she should go. This is a very simple example to you if u understand what I have been saying. We pay this much but quality of teacher is way off from wat we expect after the increase of fee. Let me ask u, if you go to buy a mercedes for $2mil, do u expect it runs like a fiat? That's the point and I hope u see how serious it can affect kids' education in the long run rather than considering inflation which I have already taken into account.
/原帖由 mattsmum 於 11-9-15 14:27 發表
這幾年多了好多IB學校，人人都要請IB老師。如果我是老師會把頭放出去給人獵。通賬又高，港元還跟美元貶值不少，如何留著IB老師？
作者: newdaddy 時間: 11-9-16 16:32
It seems that you are frustrated and disappointed with VSA and feel quite helpless with the management, heavy workload, the difficulty in transferring to another school and the coming IB exam.
Your kid only has two years to go and he should be around 18 years old. What's his opinion? I mean what does he think may help him if he stays in VSA?
Talk to the principal again about your difficulties. You have paid quite a lot and this is the time to get some more help from the principal.
It's difficult situation for you as a parent and for your kid as well. However, as parents, we need to set a good example to our kids on how to think positively and cope with challenges because apart from exams and schools , there are bound to be lots of challenges ahead e.g. relationship problem, job-related problems, financial , health problems etc.
Do not lose heart now in this battle!! Go for it!
I wish you and your kid good luck with your endeavor!
作者: slamai 時間: 11-9-16 18:17
I wonder if you are in fact comparing the workload of a primary student to that of a DP student in your post. The workload comes from IB DP rather than VSA!
原帖由 MPSVIC 於 11-9-15 09:36 發表
well, sounds like you dun seem to notice how much workload your kid has or he/she does not care about working on it at all. I mean if you do, u should be able to notice how much time he/she needs to ...
作者: MPSVIC 時間: 11-9-22 10:38
Thank you so much for your positive feedback and I do appreciate that. Unfortunately, from wat my kid told me, it was useless to talk to that unproductive principal as many of them did that before and it turned out everything remained the same. haha... this school is helpless as far as many students go. Teachers are not teaching with their hearts and they dun care much if the students actually learnt something or not... pathetic!原帖由 newdaddy 於 11-9-16 08:32 發表
It seems that you are frustrated and disappointed with VSA and feel quite helpless with the management, heavy workload, the difficulty in transferring to another school and the coming IB exam.
Your k ...
作者: MPSVIC 時間: 11-9-22 10:42
I hope ur literate enough to comprehend what I have been writing. I have friends whose kids are also taking IBDP at international schools, but they do not have as much workload as my kid does. They learn things and are happy. Do u actually not understand I have been comparing with the equivalent level? 原帖由 slamai 於 11-9-16 10:17 發表
I wonder if you are in fact comparing the workload of a primary student to that of a DP student in your post. The workload comes from IB DP rather than VSA!
作者: slamai 時間: 11-9-22 14:24 標題: 回復 44# MPSVIC 的帖子
I hope your mind is clear enough to realise that I was responding to your post below:
"well, sounds like you dun seem to notice how much workload your kid has or he/she does not care about working on it at all. I mean if you do, u should be able to notice how much time he/she needs to spend every day on his desk. What you said about redundancy has been obsolete for those locals somehow. I noticed it cos I have another kid studying at a prestigious school in Hong Kong and workload there is very reasonable and variety of activities are given to kids in order to let them learn and being creative at the same time. Homework is never heavy which is what the school tries to do all the time, and kids there r so happy there! Does VSA provide the same thing? I honestly suggest you to pay more attention to your kid esp on his workload and health. I understand u may be busy at work and that's probably y u miss a lot and can only tell me based on theory. Good luck!"
Yes, I can't comprehend why you can't comprehend my last post though that has nothing to do with my literacy! It seems that you have a poor attitude in responding to others who may have different opinion from yours. You also have a habit of generalising some individual cases without good reasons, e.g. to quote the "prestigious school" of your other kid and deduce that the repetitive homework of many typical local schools is not redundant. Indeed I have difficulty in comprehending your posts from the perspective of logic.
作者: MPSVIC 時間: 11-9-23 14:50
I can utterly understand y u cannot comprehend the ultimate meaning of my post which is of course not only due to your literacy but wisdom. When I am saying workload of other schools, I have done my research to compare other different schools prior to saying those. U got me so far? If you do not have any kids taking VSA, I humbly suggest you not to comment others' criticism outta your plain imagination which I am sorry to say - nonsense. Let me ask u how much you can illustrate if you are such an outsider while my kid 'introduces' me things what happens in school from time to time. It is not just my kid's opinions but his peers' also. I suggest u to do more research first rather than saying something from your so called logic! Thank you. U should be able to understand what I am saying this time.原帖由 slamai 於 11-9-22 06:24 發表
I hope your mind is clear enough to realise that I was responding to your post below:
"well, sounds like you dun seem to notice how much workload your kid has or he/she does not care about working on ...
作者: slamai 時間: 11-9-23 16:59
Not only your logic but also your memory fails you as I've stated before what kind of stakeholder I am and there is no need for me to repeat it again. With your sense of logic and attitude in discussion, I hope you have some basic knowledge on statistics before you ventured to carry out your 'research' and generalise the 'results'. The workload of IB DP is well recognised. Just take a causal look at a few links below:
IB has a huge workload and I am up late every night trying to finish homework
substantial workload require a great deal of commitment, organization, and initiative
About a quarter of IBDP graduates considered that the workload was “excessive, ...
Of course, how much time a student needs to take to finish his/her work varies across individuals.
原帖由 MPSVIC 於 11-9-23 14:50 發表
I can utterly understand y u cannot comprehend the ultimate meaning of my post which is of course not only due to your literacy but wisdom. When I am saying workload of other schools, I have done my ...
作者: mattsmum 時間: 11-9-23 22:04 標題: 回覆 1# slamai 的文章
http://www.bbc.co.uk/ukchina/sim ... baccalaureate.shtml
国际文凭:一分汗水一分收获
教育人士指出，比起传统的A-level考试，“国际文凭”大学预科考核等级更分明。
你听说过“国际文凭”吗？它和A-level有什么区别？又有哪些优缺点？
“国际文凭” （International Baccalaureate，简称IB）由国际文凭组织（简称IBO）设立，并得到联合国教科文组织认可和支持。
目前英国授权使用“国际文凭”的学校有196所。这个数字预计将在未来两年里翻一番。
但随着今年夏天部分英国学校对首批“国际文凭” 学生考试成绩不理想的抱怨，专家指出，要想充分发挥“国际文凭”课程的优势，学生、教师、家长必须协同合作，全力投入。....
作者: MPSVIC 時間: 11-9-26 22:51
Hahaha, I feel like talking to some naive 'Lady' who always tries to prove she is so good at this issue just like she tells everyone there is water in Saturn while she has never been there. Hahaha, Worst of all, when ppl tried to retort her, she go
es nuts and keeps telling ppl she is so rite. But let me repeat, she has never been there.... so, good nite. Tell me more about other planets as well if u have so much logic....Mrs. Salami!!! gosh!原帖由 slamai 於 11-9-23 08:59 發表
Not only your logic but also your memory fails you as I've stated before what kind of stakeholder I am and there is no need for me to repeat it again. With your sense of logic and attitude in discussi ...
作者: slamai 時間: 11-9-28 20:47 標題: 回復 49# MPSVIC 的帖子
I find it totally a waste of my time to continue discussion with such an unworthy personality and so I'm leaving this topic for good!
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