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標題: St. Cat., HY, SH, True Light (Tai Hang), how do you choose? [打印本頁]

作者: Lovelychinchin 時間: 11-3-12 02:43 標題: St. Cat., HY, SH, True Light (Tai Hang), how do you choose?

We live in TKO. My gal gets offers from these 4 kindergartens. TL & SH get higher rate to its primary. HY is nearer in location. ST. Cat. Is good in English and co-Ed. It is hard to make the decision. Could Anyone give suggestion? Which one is better in terms of academic and moral education. For TL, SH and HY, which one is better in Primary and Secondary? Thank you!

作者: karen55407 時間: 11-3-12 09:41

St. Cat

原帖由 Lovelychinchin 於 11-3-12 02:43 發表
We live in TKO. My gal gets offers from these 4 kindergartens. TL & SH get higher rate to its primary. HY is nearer in location. ST. Cat. Is good in English and co-Ed. It is hard to make the deci ...

作者: Lovelychinchin 時間: 11-3-12 23:46

Why do you think st. Cat. Is better?

作者: wiman 時間: 11-3-13 00:04

I will choose HY.

On the other hand, I would give up St Cat since the school fee is very expensive and you need to face the high competition when you interview P1

作者: Lovelychinchin 時間: 11-3-13 00:52

Thank you woman. My concern on HY is that percentage of going to P.1 from K.3 is low. Heard that only approx 10 K3 students can go to primary thru door-knocking! It is not save for P.1. comparatively, SH has greater chance to go to SH primary and secondary. In fact, I like HY primary and secondary. Yet, from other threads, it seems that many BK's parents also have very good comment on SH. Do you know in terms of kindergarten, primary and secondary, HY or SH is better. Is it worths to take risk to try the limited chance to HY primary?

作者: Lovelychinchin 時間: 11-3-13 00:53

Sorry woman, a typo on your name!

作者: Lovelychinchin 時間: 11-3-13 00:54

It should be wiman.

作者: newmommy 時間: 11-3-13 23:35

Wa, you got a very smart girl.
SH - do you mean Sacred Heart?

I would choose between SH and HY. If there is a slight chance that you will move to Hong Kong Island (the commute for a kindergarten kid, or even a primary 1-3 kid, is really far otherwise), then I would choose SH. If not possible at all, then HY la.

HY is of course excellent, good atmosphere, good campus, and good especially if you consider your location. But for presitage, I would think SH has more famous graduates than HY.

作者: newmommy 時間: 11-3-13 23:39

I forget: St Cat of course is very good in terms of their structure and transparency. But I think SH and HY are good enough for me to "give up playing the p1 game" (sort of, although I know that these kinders are not through train to their respective primary school). The p1 "game" is too stressful, and studying at SH and HY does not lose your comeptitiveness if you later do the p1 admission process in other schools either.

作者: wiman 時間: 11-3-14 10:17

I knew many parents here appreciated SH's kinder, but if u asked me its primary and secondary school, I can only say there is a large gap among students esp secondary school. Also the pressure of primary life is much high and parents also like to compete with their kids. I don't know whether HY is like this or not. But if I recommend, I would prefer HY. Do u register last Sat?

作者: iantsang 時間: 11-3-14 10:40

Just like to supplement some information for other parents' reference.

The existence of gap among students do exist in SHCS (pm section) as it is a gov't aided school.  This will happen in any gov't aided schools since students are admitted thru lucky draw.  So variations should exist and this is the headache for any of them.

The gap in SHCC is by intention.  Since 90% of their seats (that is 200 places) are for own primary school students only, so they will also accept some band 2 students of their own.  This is how the variations were created.  Please note this 90% is different from other feeder school system where the 85% rule applied.  For reference, the 85% should actually be approximately 70% x 85% (i.e. 60%).  It is because the first 30% are for discretionary place where students from all regions can apply.  For SHCC's case, since they reserved even the first 30% for their own students, this is how they can reserve 90% for own students.

Concerning the pressure is high in primary and parents like to compete with the children, I guess this is very personal and subjective so I wouldn't comment on that.  However, if this is in fact true, then I guess the above mentioned wouldn't be valid since if the pressure is so high and the children would compete so seriously, then the variation on academic level wouldn't exist.

原帖由 wiman 於 11-3-14 10:17 發表
I knew many parents here appreciated SH's kinder, but if u asked me its primary and secondary school, I can only say there is a large gap among students esp secondary school. Also the pressure of prim ...

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作者: Lovelychinchin 時間: 11-3-16 21:56 標題: 回覆 3# Lovelychinchin 的文章

I would say my girl is lucky enough to get admission from these kindergartens. Yes, HY and SH are my preferences and I am struggling between HY and SH. Actually, I think HY is more suitable for her as my girl is an active girl. My concern is that chance for HY kinder to
primaryis one of my concern.

作者: Lovelychinchin 時間: 11-3-16 22:06

I mean chance for HY kinder to primary is low. Heard that it only have around 10 door knocking chance! Comparatively, chance of SH is much higher. Yet, location to me is a problem if I go for SH. I also afraid that SH is traditional and may not suitable for my girl. Ian, could you share if SH is kind of traditional and demanding Kinder or not?

作者: Lovelychinchin 時間: 11-3-16 22:19 標題: 回覆 10# wiman 的文章

Wiman, yes I registered last Sat. Is your kid also accepted by HY?

作者: iantsang 時間: 11-3-16 22:31

I was going to keep quiet but since you asked me specifically, then I must give my feedback!

I would suggest you to do one thing: Try to visit these two kindergartens during class releases (or all four if you have the time!) and observe the children (and parents). I think this may give you the idea of whether the kindergarten will fit your daughter. I do think I have said too much already so may be it is better that you take a look for yourself. Honestly, everyone have different standard so one who view something as traditional the other one may consider the same as too active!

A personal note, many children in SHCK are quite active (some are very active

). For girls in Heep Yunn who I have met, they are rather quiet. But I only know two girls studying there so that may not be representative. On the other hand, there are few home assignment to do in SHCK but no ones will ever push you to finish them all or must be in high quality unless it is from your own children. The teachers are quite relax on this perspective, and so are many parents.

However, I think it is a fact that pressure in Heep Yunn will be greater since as you are aware that only the top 10 students would have the opportunity to knock door.

原帖由 Lovelychinchin 於 11-3-16 22:06 發表
I mean chance for HY kinder to primary is low. Heard that it only have around 10 door knocking chance! Comparatively, chance of SH is much higher. Yet, location to me is a problem if I go for SH. I ...

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作者: Lovelychinchin 時間: 11-3-16 22:36

Ian, you are really an expert of SH. Under your observation, do you think SH is not suitable for active girl? What do you think the academic level of HY and SH in terms of primary and secondary? HY or SH have higher academic level?

作者: Lovelychinchin 時間: 11-3-16 22:45

Ian, You really response quickly. While I am typing, you have already answered my first question. So, in fact SH is suitable to active girl as well and they are happy girl. I want my girl to be independent happy girl and want to choose a kindergarten and even primary and secondary school to her.

作者: Lovelychinchin 時間: 11-3-16 22:48

Yes, visit these kindergartens during class releases and observe the children and parents is a good ideas to get the answer

作者: iantsang 時間: 11-3-16 23:02

I am not just expert of SH, the reason I know so much is because I went through an extensive research since late 2008 on all the girls' schools (mostly Catholic) from kindergarten to secondary level before I make a decision for my daughters to help them find the suitable school for them.  And the research is still on-going as I need to continuous assess any latest changes in Hong Kong.

Concerning the academic level, I believe the two are very close.  Based on data that I have, SHCSPS should have more band 1.  This is very natural since it is private school and can provide more advance curriculum (this is one of the reasons for the existence of private primary schools in Hong Kong).  So it is a bit unfair to compare to HYPS.  I believe it will be comparable to SHCS (gov't aided section).  At the end, gov't aided schools have difficulty to keep everyone in high standard since many of them are offered thru lucky draw.

Concerning secondary, it may be even harder to compare.  I would say Heep Yunn has the edge on ECA like sports, music and debates which they are traditionally strong.  Academically SHCC may be slightly better in average but the two should be very close and sometimes Heep Yunn may be better!  Just like SHCC is also doing better in sports nowadays so the two are quit a close comparison really.

原帖由 Lovelychinchin 於 11-3-16 22:36 發表
Ian, you are really an expert of SH. Under your observation, do you think SH is not suitable for active girl? What do you think the academic level of HY and SH in terms of primary and secondary? HY ...

作者: Lovelychinchin 時間: 11-3-16 23:56

Thanks a lot, Ian! You are really a good father. Why do you focus on catholic? Are you catholic or you think that catholic school can train up children be more self-discipline? for HY, do you think its primary will change to DSS soon as it's secondary will change to DSS next year.

作者: iantsang 時間: 11-3-17 00:27

I am not Catholic but I went to Catholic school. Actually we also consider Christian schools but during the process to shortlisted the suitable schools we found that many of those are Catholic schools only. I have also researched on Christian schools but just not as many only.

I also heard about Heep Yunn will switch to DSS but I think they still have some road blocks to clear so it may take them some time to decide whether to change their primary to DSS too.

原帖由 Lovelychinchin 於 11-3-16 23:56 發表
Thanks a lot, Ian! You are really a good father. Why do you focus on catholic? Are you catholic or you think that catholic school can train up children be more self-discipline? for HY, do you think ...

作者: Lovelychinchin 時間: 11-3-23 23:44

Thanks Ian! Do you know how long will it take for switching to DSS usually? Is there any chance for HY to switch to DSS by 2014?

作者: iantsang 時間: 11-3-24 09:52

Sorry I don't really follow the news that closely. But lately I heard their current principal of secondary section has just resigned..... however, she claimed she will stay on to assist the arrangement to switch to DSS.

原帖由 Lovelychinchin 於 11-3-23 23:44 發表
Thanks Ian! Do you know how long will it take for switching to DSS usually? Is there any chance for HY to switch to DSS by 2014?

作者: kyliejet 時間: 11-3-24 10:18

I would suggest SH if you prefer easier life for you during the kindergarten years.

The pressure in Heep Yunn is really big as the parents will try their best to compete the seats for knocking door. Please be reminded that the school will consider not only academic performances but most importantly, the conduct and behavior of the students. This is the reason that HY girls are mostly welcomed by other famous schools even though they cannot go to HYPS.

Only parents will have the pressure, the girls there are very happy, they love to go to school very much.

作者: Cutemom0808 時間: 11-3-24 13:53

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作者: Lovelychinchin 時間: 11-3-26 03:21

Thank you all for sharing your  opinions! It seems that most of you prefer SH.

Kyliejet: Is your daughter studying in HY now? If so, I am lucky enough to have both parents of HY's girl and SH's girl here.  Coz read another thread, Ian has 2 daughters studying in SH now.  Million thanks if both of you can share more about your experience of studying at HY & SH respectively.
1. what is the academic level? Is it easy or difficult? What is the English and PTH level? Are there Native teachers for both languages?  How long is the English & PTH lesson? Have English & PTH lesson everyday? They will teach phonic or not.
2. Other than language, what is the curriculum focus?
3. What do you think the moral education of HY / SH?  Do you think the kindergarten help guiding your daughter to build up good personality?  Do you have any general impression on the characteristics of girls from HY / SH? They are active / creative / self-discipline / independent...?
3. Are the girls from HY / SH love reading?
4. What is the school fee for Kindergarten & primary?
Thanks both & sorry for so many questions.

作者: Lovelychinchin 時間: 11-4-2 00:29 標題: Ian & kyliejet please help

Ian & kyliejet, please could you share your experience?

作者: iantsang 時間: 11-4-3 22:05

Sorry for late reply.

1. what is the academic level? Is it easy or difficult? What is the English and PTH level? Are there Native teachers for both languages? How long is the English & PTH lesson? Have English & PTH lesson everyday? They will teach phonic or not.

Academic level..... this is always tough to comment since I really don't have an objective view of easy or hard. I would definitely not hard, but also not easy? It's all depends on what you compare that to.

There are around 20-30 mins of language class per day, either English or PTH (so not both everyday). This year should be 3 days of English and 2 days of PTH. PTH teachers are native and English teachers are either native or foreign born/educated Chinese. Phonics teaching starts in K1, but far slower compare to outside courses, of course.

2. Other than language, what is the curriculum focus?

The curriculum is based on three factors: Music, Physical and Arts. Healthy living is also highly concerned so children are taught to eat healthy.

3. What do you think the moral education of HY / SH? Do you think the kindergarten help guiding your daughter to build up good personality? Do you have any general impression on the characteristics of girls from HY / SH? They are active / creative / self-discipline / independent...?

Moral education is also a very key part so children are taught to care and respect others, and to be humble and loving. While doing so, the kids' own personality are to be maintained, so there are both active and quiet children.

3. Are the girls from HY / SH love reading?

Yes, they all love reading. The habit is established since beginning of K1.

4. What is the school fee for Kindergarten & primary?

SHCK school fee is near the maximum of voucher-receiving policy allowed. Over $23,000 per year and will minus $16,000 next year for the voucher. For primary school, am is private and school fee this year is around $22,000-24,000 ( I forgot ). pm is gov't aided so no school fees.

作者: Cutemom0808 時間: 11-4-7 15:14

原帖由 iantsang 於 11-4-3 22:05 發表
Sorry for late reply.

Academic level..... this is always tough to comment since I really don't have an objective view of easy or hard. I would definitely not hard, but also not easy? It's all de ...

請問Ian K2 Phonics教到blending未？

作者: iantsang 時間: 11-4-7 15:42

I know they were teaching some digraphs couple months ago but not sure about blends. Let me ask my daughter tonight.

原帖由 Cutemom0808 於 11-4-7 15:14 發表

請問Ian K2 Phonics教到blending未？

作者: Cutemom0808 時間: 11-4-7 16:03

原帖由 iantsang 於 11-4-7 15:42 發表
I know they were teaching some digraphs couple months ago but not sure about blends. Let me ask my daughter tonight.

Thanks a lot. 如果教到digraphs也不算慢呢。始終有好多人沒有學過phonics，k1 由a-z教起也是正常的。

作者: iantsang 時間: 11-4-7 21:34

Checked the books they used for phonics, basically a-z takes the first and a half year and so digraphs just started second term of K2. Won't have blends in K2.

原帖由 Cutemom0808 於 11-4-7 16:03 發表

Thanks a lot. 如果教到digraphs也不算慢呢。始終有好多人沒有學過phonics，k1 由a-z教起也是正常的。

作者: Cutemom0808 時間: 11-4-8 14:32

原帖由 iantsang 於 11-4-7 21:34 發表
Checked the books they used for phonics, basically a-z takes the first and a half year and so digraphs just started second term of K2. Won't have blends in K2.

Thanks Ian.

[ 本帖最後由 Cutemom0808 於 11-4-8 14:35 編輯 ]

作者: Bluegene 時間: 11-4-9 03:05

For KG, I think HY is much better than SH in term of academic knowledge. For moral edu, both are very good. As SHKG students can have a higher chance to stay in SHPS (if you select private section), you need to think about this point. For HY, a lot of students have 20 pts. There is also keen academic competition there but best students usually would be accepted by DGJS. Chance in Round 1 and 2 is not high. Round 3 result depends on your daughter's school performance.

For PS, I think SH would push students much harder than HY. In SH, there are a lot of daily homeworks and frequent tests. Unless your daughter is really smart, you may need to prepare for the stress. Crying to do the homework is not uncommon. Those parents and students can't withstand this would just quit.

原帖由 Lovelychinchin 於 11-3-26 03:21 發表
Thank you all for sharing your opinions! It seems that most of you prefer SH.

Kyliejet: Is your daughter studying in HY now? If so, I am lucky enough to have both parents of HY's girl and SH's girl ...

作者: Lovelychinchin 時間: 11-4-11 01:01

Thank you Ian and Bluegene. For primary school, teaching style of HY and SH is 傳統/活動? Students of HYPS and SHPS are love to go to school just like their KG's students as well?

作者: bb2604 時間: 11-4-17 01:03

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作者: Lovelychinchin 時間: 11-4-24 22:17

bb2604 thank you. Why do you think ... For sure Heep Yunn?

作者: iloveu3939 時間: 11-4-26 00:11

hm.... in fact, I would like to know more about True Light (Tai Hang)! I thought it's good enough comparing with SH and HY, especially when HY's lucky draw issue...
Please share!

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