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作者: GAT 時間: 11-2-11 18:36 標題: 成功既全職媽媽
Interview好多時被問BB日頭边個凑,nursury老師也說自己湊同工人湊出來D BB 好大分別.
咁到底Full time Mom 既Ｂ考學校喺咪真喺成功啲 - 多Ｄoffer 或考到自己最想讀既學校呢?
有冇例子可以分享吓?
我自己都想做full time mom!
作者: mimimomo6 時間: 11-2-11 19:59
原帖由 GAT 於 11-2-11 18:36 發表 
Interview好多時被問BB日頭边個凑,nursury老師也說自己湊同工人湊出來D BB 好大分別.
咁到底Full time Mom 既Ｂ考學校喺咪真喺成功啲 - 多Ｄoffer 或考到自己最想讀既學校呢?
有冇例子可以分享吓?
我自己都想做full t ...
我係工人湊BB, 父母返工架, 不過我小朋友考左10間,8間收左, 一間WAITING LIST , 應該是睇小朋友表現, full time mami, 如果小朋友表現唔好, 一樣唔會收, 你好好訓練吓小朋友的對答, 應該仲大把握
作者: cccbaby 時間: 11-2-12 00:04
What does "Full time mom" mean? Mom can be full time or part time? When you are at work, you would not be a mom of your kid?? I found this new term is quite funny.
I found some schools asked me this question when my kid not performing well, but other popular school does not even have time to ask this question. And, some schools made assumption and said "You are the one taking care of your kid", when my kid performed well. So, the teacher assumed "Full time mom" = "more time to train good kids", "Working mom" = "no time to train kids" but I think this is not true as "Full time mom" can also spend less time with kids and it really depends on the time quality instead of quantity.
作者: iantsang 時間: 11-2-12 09:20
It's just in short of "Full-time on parenting", but it could be quite clumsy to say it in full so it has been quite standard to use the term "Full-time mother" or "Full-time father" instead.
原帖由 cccbaby 於 11-2-12 00:04 發表
What does "Full time mom" mean? Mom can be full time or part time? When you are at work, you would not be a mom of your kid?? I found this new term is quite funny.
I found some schools asked me this ...
作者: anteater 時間: 11-2-12 10:42
全職媽媽同working mother 最大的分別係全職媽媽係任何時候都可以同小朋友一起,生活上很多細節如果有媽媽指導,跟只有個工人陪小朋友一起係好大分別,工人唔會指導小朋友,其實好多BB會在日常生活中慢慢學會而成長,看著全職媽媽的言行舉止而長大跟看著工人講印話而長大你話有無分別?working mother最多就係放工花時間同小朋友一起看書,玩耍,跟全職媽媽平時一起生活的分別是很大的.當然經濟問題,很多mother都不能放下工作做全職媽媽,只要放工的時候多些陪伴子女,再加上安排好子女日常的生活時間表,例如上D興趣班,總之不要只長時間對住工人,在家無所事事看電視,都能教出好孩子!
如果你想做全職媽媽係因為以為會考到好多學校就錯了,全職媽媽係長線投資,短時間好難看到有好的回報,不過你的nursury老師
說得無錯,自己湊同工人湊出來D BB 好大分別
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作者: Pertra 時間: 11-2-12 11:47
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作者: iantsang 時間: 11-2-12 12:38
I don't think a mother, whether full-time one or not, should be referred to as "successful" based on the number of acceptance by kindergartens. I think this may be a bit twisted and some full-time mothers may feel uncomfortable with this idea.
I understand it can be just a thinking, but it may be good to also be considerate when these questions are being asked, thanks!
Ian
作者: cccbaby 時間: 11-2-12 14:15 標題: 回復 4# iantsang 的帖子
It is an English word. Or just made up words by Chinese as seriously I did not hear before in western countries.
作者: iantsang 時間: 11-2-12 14:45
Here's a book written in English with this terminology:
http://www.amazon.com/Staying-Home-Full-Time-Professional-Parent/dp/0967035902
原帖由 cccbaby 於 11-2-12 14:15 發表
It is an English word. Or just made up words by Chinese as seriously I did not hear before in western countries.
作者: BabyQQ~ 時間: 11-2-12 14:47
老實講自己曾做7個月全職, 但有工人. 但自覺全職並唔適合自己, 俾到既係quantity of time而唔係quanlity of time. 落街既時間無疑係多左, 但自己成日覺得大把時間, 幾時陪佢都得. 反而返工後好珍惜相處時間, 放工盡快返屋企, 假日又想周圍帶佢去玩.
自己深相全職唔代表帶出叻孩子, 叻既定義亦好唔同. 但父母同子女既相處態度, 關懷及照顧當然對子女成長後成為一個點既人有好大影響.
作者: dolphinmama 時間: 11-2-12 17:27
呵呵~~本人也是全職媽,對考幼稚園係冇幫助的,因為我個仔考5間,衰4間,呵呵~~~所以我好同意樓上的媽媽所說,其實有質素的陪伴比有時間的陪伴來得更實在,由於自己唔使返工,真的覺得有大把時間教個仔,結果一天拖一天,最後一樣係什麼也學不到,呵呵~~~
其實自己湊又好,俾人湊都好,一切都視乎照顧者的心機付出了多少,不是媽媽教出來的就一定好,"外人"教的就一定差,嘿,我就是一個反面教材了!
作者: Hipuppy 時間: 11-2-13 02:36
全職媽媽的隱憂是有機會將小朋友o既事無限放大 , 我最近都覺得自己有o的極端o左 , 想搵條出路等自己平衡o的.
作者: mary1004 時間: 11-2-13 03:22
我都有朋友係要返工媽媽, 平時麻麻/婆婆湊, 小朋友十分醒目, 好識答問題, 好獨立, 起碼見佢地十間九間都有OFFER, 啓思/SC都話收左
反而我無識一D小朋友係平時工人湊, 而好醒目!淨係我接小朋友放學時, 好多工人都掛住傾計, 望住自己個電話SMS, 連個小朋友既安全都睇唔到...
我覺得如能同平日湊小朋友既人溝通得好,才能真的了解小朋友, 及時發現小朋友既問題, 才有機會對正下藥吧
作者: 小曳人 時間: 11-2-13 11:37
我諗~ interview表現大於一切!
有朋友8月出世, 都係同一個pg導師讚過嘅叻女, 媽媽全職湊佢.. 但無乜offer
相對我個3月仔, 除咗"知識"上兩人有少少分別 (which was not tested), 我個仔外表可愛d, 體能上兩人唔差好遠 (可能我個仔仲差少少)
講嘢就一定女仔叻d添!
我唔清楚面試時表現爭幾遠, 只能夠講, 佢舊年出咗嚟嘅成績, 我好意外!
( 我係working mum~)
作者: littlecook 時間: 11-2-13 15:45
'成功'既定義個個唔同.
我覺得就算考唔到心儀學校/少OFFER就等於唔成功.
大人小朋友有進步,了解自己/小朋友/教育理念多左,親子關係改善左等等,都可以叫成功,睇你點睇...
有時,更本無需要話成功定唔成功,大家盡左力就好好啦!總會有學校讀書既!
我自己係FULL-TIME MOM.你睇我好,我睇你好啦...
我無工人,一日要花好多時間煮3餐加茶點,洗衫收拾等等,基本上佔左大部分時間,仲邊有時間睇書教佢地野呀...通常我都係叫佢地自己睇書同玩架咋.
仲有,就係我都好容易好似樓上媽媽咁講,將D小問題無限放大,結果又花左半個鐘頭鬧人...一日完左,咩都無做過...
但當然,就係因為咁忙唔得閑理佢地,我就會好好TRAIN佢地自理能力,呢樣野,如果係由工人湊,相信比較難做到!
講返OFFER啦,全職媽媽+年頭大囡+講野好叻.咁又點呢?見左都有10間,只得几間OFFER,其他WAITING,皆因面試時太有性格,唔合作呀!所以,我相信面試表現大於一切啦!可能仲有運氣啦!
咁得几間OFFER我又唔會覺得唔成功既,如果真係要討論成唔成功既話!考得既都係鐘意先考,以佢咁玩野都有學校收,我已經好滿意.另外,見佢1月見既同11月見比較,真係進步左,合作左,咁已經好好啦!
原帖由 GAT 於 11-2-11 18:36 發表
Interview好多時被問BB日頭边個凑,nursury老師也說自己湊同工人湊出來D BB 好大分別.
咁到底Full time Mom 既Ｂ考學校喺咪真喺成功啲 - 多Ｄoffer 或考到自己最想讀既學校呢?
有冇例子可以分享吓?
我自己都想做full t ...
作者: kiukiu1010 時間: 11-2-13 17:42
原帖由 littlecook 於 11-2-13 15:45 發表
'成功'既定義個個唔同.
我覺得就算考唔到心儀學校/少OFFER就等於唔成功.
大人小朋友有進步,了解自己/小朋友/教育理念多左,親子關係改善左等等,都可以叫成功,睇你點睇...
有時,更本無需要話成功定唔成功,大家盡左力就 ...
考幼稚園方面既成績都唔理想,考左13間左右,暫時得2間有offer,2間waitting,2間未有結果.
作者: chafamama 時間: 11-2-13 19:47
我係全職媽媽，有工人。我自己主力照顧同教個仔，工人就做家務。In 左SC & KV, 都收左。
由阿仔8個月大開始上playgroup到依家2.5歲返pre-nursery，見過好多全職媽咪湊 / 老人家湊 / 工人湊既細路，發覺又好似真似由家人(媽咪 / 老人家)湊既係乖D，精叻D。
作者: workhard1 時間: 11-2-13 20:21
-我常這樣想1yr pn, 3yrs kinder, 6yrs Primary school, 6 yrs second, 4 yr Univerity = 20圈麻雀
現在剛打了1圈，仲有排打怎可定win or loss 呢!!
我也想我太太做full time Mom even 我也想做full time dad!!可惜大小魔怪太大支出，冇得吾做!
另外我想起小王子所說，人(HK人)衹對數字interesting! i.e. 對人說how beatiful a house!!!是冇用！要說啊間house $$多少裝修又$$$幾多先有用!
我想講是HK人對於什麼是成功什麼是品味好多時是祇用$$$來做標準!!
作者: GAT 時間: 11-2-13 21:57
Thanks for all of your sharing.
I don't mean that mom's success just based on interview result. In my mind, a successful MOM is one where the child can treat her as a friend and like to see her all the time even when he grow up.
In this thread, I just like to explore is there a positive and direct relation between full time mom and interview results.
I see nowadays there are many full time moms - the playgroups where my children go, many of them are full time moms.
作者: wootaitai 時間: 11-2-13 23:29
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作者: JHsbb 時間: 11-2-14 09:36
我都係全職媽媽，有工人, 工人主力做家頭細務, 我自己湊教2個小朋友, 1個4歲(大仔), 1個2歲(細女), 我無同佢地上任何PG, 大仔講野能力好強, 22.5個月已經同我地對答如流, 所以當年INTERVIEW時考4間, 4間收晒, 亞女INTERVIEW 1間收左....原本無諗同佢IN哥哥讀的學校, 最後朋友叫我IN埋, IN完後又收左...
我覺得做FT MAMA係有好處的, 但真係如果無工人幫手做家務的話, 你就算係FT MAMA都唔會有時間教到佢地野, 1為我頭1年都無工人真係無晒時間, 仲要每日只瞓得6個鐘, 好攰, 如果有工人幫手我仍然覺得自己教係好好多..
但對於入學黎講都要睇小朋友表現, 就算你點教都好, 佢地IN時表現唔好都係唔會收你
原帖由 chafamama 於 11-2-13 19:47 發表
我係全職媽媽，有工人。我自己主力照顧同教個仔，工人就做家務。In 左SC & KV, 都收左。
由阿仔8個月大開始上playgroup到依家2.5歲返pre-nursery，見過好多全職媽咪湊 / 老人家湊 / 工人湊既細路，發覺又好似真似由家人(媽 ...
作者: anteater 時間: 11-2-14 10:25
所以要做全職媽媽最好加個工人,否則又做家務又教係分身不下的
作者: BlueBearBear 時間: 11-2-14 11:03
非常同意,我都就快"走火入魔".
原帖由 Hipuppy 於 11-2-13 02:36 發表
全職媽媽的隱憂是有機會將小朋友o既事無限放大 , 我最近都覺得自己有o的極端o左 , 想搵條出路等自己平衡o的.
作者: NLai 時間: 11-2-14 11:13 標題: $, school means nothing to kids, they just want mom!
I have 3 kids, the eldest one is 12 now, I was only full time mom since 2008, I feel FT mom can better communicate with kids, can share their feeling in first hand. Can cook health food for them to eat..(like every lunch and dinner), housemaid always cook rubbish to them! can share with them life attitude! Of course, after all this daily education, they understand what they have to do, their school report is good and we are really close, I think this is what I miss in the past! Our family earn less money then before, and we need to control our expenses all the time, but kids willing to use second hand clothes, books and not go holiday...They just want mummy stay with them and even we just stay at home or going to garden nearby..
作者: BabyISC 時間: 11-2-14 14:28
點解全職同小朋友既成功有關呢? 全職媽媽係一個女人有條件&希望全職照顧小朋友, 小朋友既成功有好多因素,唔通子女成績唔好,咁啱佢個全職父/母親…咁佢既父/母親就係loser.
如果因為子女成就,而仔做全職,唔係成功, 全職媽媽係冇條件付出,不計收獲
不過,我覺得只有工人睇既小朋友,最難攪係脾氣,一日太長時間冇人管,我自己果個都係咁
作者: mosibaby 時間: 11-2-14 15:00
我自己係全職媽媽, 當然都有工人, 如果唔係有工人, 又要揍小朋友又要做家務應該好難做得好!
以我自己觀察所得, 如去公園, 有D小朋友會丟垃圾, 最好的工人會叫佢地執返拎去垃圾桶才丟, D小朋友有時會肯有時唔肯, 最主要係個小朋友唔明點解唔可以隨地丟, 點解一定要丟去垃圾桶?但係工人根本唔會解釋, 只係會叫小朋友做, 若然小朋友唔做, 佢地就會自己丟, 所以小朋友跟本唔會學到正確的價值觀! 如果係媽媽自己揍, 好似我自己咁, 我會同佢解釋點解垃圾丟到地上係唔岩? 當小朋友明白左之後佢就好自動自覺次次都會搵垃圾桶才丟! 而且FT MAMI可以多D時間睇到小朋友, 一有D咩壞習慣可以立刻制止左先, 再加以解釋, 咁小朋友就唔會養成不良既習慣。
我相信只有父母先會肯花心機時間去教育小朋友, 工人最多只係照顧小朋友, 但絕不可能取代父母!
覆返樓主, 我身邊的小朋友, 比例上, 由FT MAMI教育出來的小朋友比較聽MAMI話, 情緒比較穩定, 親子關係較好, 當然, 亦有部份是working mum, 她們的小朋友都很聽教聽話，但是她們大多是天生比較聽話懂事的，所以就算唔係ＭＡＭＩ全天侯係身邊都沒問題，反之一些比較扭計的小朋友最好有個ft mum, 純熟個人意見，不喜勿插！
作者: Bigpig_2007 時間: 11-2-14 22:47
我聽過一些媽咪講, 如果讀名牌nursery就算interview啞都收...
我知得太遲, 希望你重有用啦~
作者: GAT 時間: 11-2-14 22:55
Full time mommy and have maid to take care of housecore - will she become very lazy? I am afraid I will just sleep for long hours, instead of spending time to coach the kid?
Or is it even more busier than go to work?
And when the kid has reached three, many playgroups don't allow parents anymore. So if the kid go to school and attend many extra-cirricular activities, then in fact the parental time is not that much? or the mom will become boring instead?
Sorry so many questions!
作者: wootaitai 時間: 11-2-14 23:19 標題: 回復 1# GAT 的帖子
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作者: 2LittleMonkey 時間: 11-2-15 11:06
"由FT MAMI教育出來的小朋友比較聽MAMI話, 情緒比較穩定, 親子關係較好, 當然, 亦有部份是working mum, 她們的小朋友都很聽教聽話，但是她們大多是天生比較聽話懂事的，所以就算唔係ＭＡＭＩ全天侯係身邊都沒問題，反之一些比較扭計的小朋友最好有個ft mum"
完全讚同 ...
我有一個 5 & 2 歲既仔, 大仔比較自我, 細仔好聽話但怕事, 我現在仍然係 working mom, 但係己經 resign 左, 嘗試去做 full-time mom ...
因為大仔好需要有人好有耐性咁係佢身邊不停咁指導佢, 同佢建立一種和諧互信既既關系, 我 quit 份工係因為大仔, 而我相信我仍然可以 handle 細仔 even 我仍然係 working mom ...
如果你想教出一個優秀既小朋友 (成績好、有禮貌、有自理能力、有正確價值觀), 除非你小朋友好 smart or 聽教, 否則我覺得 full-time mom 一定比 working mom 好.
當然 working mom 亦可以教出一個優秀既小朋友, 但係佢要有一個好好既 time management, 同埋一個好配合佢既工人/奶奶/婆婆.
純熟個人意見，不喜勿插！
作者: kristinecheng 時間: 11-2-15 13:05
聽返黎，just for fun。
有次我老公搭的士，同個司機好好傾，不過兩個男人竟然係傾dwe教材同埋考幼稚園。老公話司機同佢講，佢有幾個熟客係九龍塘幼稚園既校長同老師，普遍既common都係like full time mama多啲，越高學歷/職位越扣分，仲教我老公無論點都好，都要係份application form填老婆係full time mama。
之後我報n1，都冇理會我老公講，照實填（我仲要係司機口中高學歷/職位既working mama），因為呢啲係身教，況且宜家睇番啲結果，我又覺得冇咩影響，so-far我地全部都有offer喎。
不過我相信，full time mama對bb長遠既發展係會好好多（唔係為咗interview），我本身就係full time mama湊大，不過無奈要養家養父母（正因為媽媽係full time mama，所以冇咩積蓄，要我地幫佢供樓），唔可以唔做嘢者~
[ 本帖最後由 kristinecheng 於 11-2-15 13:08 編輯 ]
作者: kfy 時間: 11-2-15 18:56
我都係 full time mom。
full time mom 係一項好長線的投資，考不考到好幼稚園只係其中的一小步，之後讀幼稚園小學其實睇到的分別會更大。
如果能力許可當然係 full time mom 好啦。
如之前好多媽咪的意見，full time mom 教小朋友自理同埋道德價值觀會有好大的優勢。我做左 full time mom，最開心並不是小朋友 academic 有幾叻（同埋佢都唔係叻），而係佢係一個 happy child，主動，outspoken，同埋，老師同我講佢係一個好誠實的人。Lee d 真係好難“假手於人”。
至於 quality time 問題，其實就係你自己的取向的。同一態度同一能力，咁點計都係 full time mom 會有多D quality time。
我會久不久提醒自己，既然決定左犧牲自己的事業去全識湊，就不要浪費了時間。。。我不是指要去谷佢，而係要有 quality time。我沒有工人，因為我只有一個孩子所以都 OK。我會自己帶佢去 library 去 disneyland 去 ocean park 去 museum去睇戲睇 show，甚至去旅行我都試過我自己帶去，平時同佢玩益智遊戲陪佢練琴練字做功課，arrange 同同學仔的 play dates，得閒仲可以去學校做家長義工。。。做 full time mom 都可以好 enjoyable，我自己當係一個過程一個經歷囉。
作者: kitmantsoi 時間: 11-2-15 20:31
我選擇做working mom cos 我相信我性格適合事業女性rather than FTM. 而且我亦有我夢想ma
了解自己好重要, 並非每個人都合適相同生活. 曾有朋友放棄事業去全識湊, 可惜唔甘心, 因自己曾付出好多時間, 事業又有成就而且迫得小朋友太緊, 最後關係差左.
作者: Makfung 時間: 11-2-18 18:05
我媽媽是一個FTM，我們住在公屋，家有六兄弟妹，現在大家都大了有了自己的家同小朋友，各有各忙但仲會每星期抽一日回老家吃飯，每當我們聚在一起兩團桌都坐不下好不熱鬧。
每當在你不開心，生病，有挫折時會不理任何事都會支持你關心你同你分擔每件事程，做任何事都而你為先而你為榮。這些細細少少的事都是要經過年年月月去刻下去。我不知到什麼是成功既全職媽媽？？？我只知道我作為人家的女兒，我深深感受到媽媽的愛。對於我這樣的媽媽已經是很成功了。現在我作為人家的母親，我也會用同一種方法去愛我的孩子。我也希望他也感受到我的愛。
作者: cincin_ko 時間: 11-2-18 19:01
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作者: calbee6 時間: 11-2-19 00:00
好善慕ftm有多d時間陪住自己個寶貝。自己係working mon，真係覺得自己錯過左好多阿仔成長的點滴。
作者: Gooblovebb 時間: 11-2-19 17:10
我係一個ftm, 首先我當然完全認同以上大家所講種種ftm對仔女的好處. 雖然我冇工人, 但我覺得都仍然應付自如, 只要唔好對清潔要求太高(我真係好求其), 咁仲可以free多些時間來陪個仔. 同時間, 當我買餸時, 我會問仔仔意見, 而在預備煮飯時, 我都會叫佢一齊參與幫手, 咁就可以多d親子時間, 好好架!
另外, 我想講的係做ftm的最大好處就係可以同個仔一齊成長, 呢個係自己得到的好處, 而唔係由個仔的角度去看. 我自己好enjoy可以睇住佢每一刻的成長, 冇錯失任何時刻呢!
各位ftm, 至緊要係唔好俾自己太高要求, 唔好同人地比較, 好好享受與仔女一齊的時光呢!
作者: kkhon 時間: 11-2-20 13:36
我是working mom,鬼唔知呀媽係女人咩！如果有很好的經濟我都好想做full time mom。現養育小朋友一個月支出好大，學費幾仟、幾樣課外活動幾仟、請工人幾仟，加上平日各衣食行使$很多。但我並不認爲自己湊的小朋友乖d,工人湊的曳d。係睇父母平時有冇管教，我有d朋友的工人向他們告知小朋友行為錯，但他們完全不理會。日子久了小朋友便不會聽工人教，便養成好多壞習慣唔聽話。我除返工外任何時間都陪伴呀仔，亦要工人合作管教，所以呀仔算乖。full time mom好處就係好多時間温習學術，考試成績較好，所以每當考試我都感壓力怕溫唔切，會比ftm辛苦d。一句講晒有能力最好自己湊+工人做家務。
作者: GAT 時間: 11-2-21 00:12
from my past experience, maid really only take care of children, but they will not educate the children. Even will not spend time to play the educational toys with them!
作者: kristinecheng 時間: 11-2-21 11:45
係呀，我係web cam見到工人姨姨自己係到對住字咭畫神奇畫板，我個囝（得20m大咋）就坐係附近自己睇書，睇完一本自己走去書櫃攞另一本坐低睇，足足10分鐘冇交流。不過我冇怪工人，只要佢負責到bb既起居飲食，我從來唔多講佢一句。
因為我覺得，教養孩子是父母的責任，唔係工人。我老公未生bb前見佢啲朋友既bb都係grandma/grandfa/工人湊，以為只要請個好工人就得，我洗佢腦2年，老公睇住我點用心train個囝，佢都唔咁懶懶閒，俾好多心機同個囝bonding，所以只要我地係屋企，大b只會痴我地唔會痴工人。
雖然我無奈係working ma，不過我會盡一切可用既時間同心機train佢，唔止係development，更重要係品格。
呢個舊曆新年我地去咗老公朋友屋企拜年，雖然大b年紀還小而且很好動頑皮，但在就肯聽話，朋友見大b在別人家有規有矩，都很驚訝這麼小年紀的bb可以如此懂事，不斷同我老公講我們很懂得教bb.....其實這一切讚賞，只是意外「收獲」，我們重視的是與大b的bonding，一切也只是源於愛。
如果條件許可，我相信很多working ma都很想成為ft ma，不過現實迫人，即使是working ma，其實只要肯用心教養孩子，他們還是可以感受到父母的愛。
原帖由 GAT 於 11-2-21 00:12 發表
from my past experience, maid really only take care of children, but they will not educate the children. Even will not spend time to play the educational toys with them!
作者: GAT 時間: 11-2-21 12:29
After work I really feel very tired and just want to lie down and take a rest. But confronted with the idea of playing with the children. So busy 7 days a week!
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