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作者: joanne298 時間: 10-12-31 16:07 標題: 有冇BB join 過東山語言中心可分享一吓
有冇BB join 過東山語言中心可分享一吓
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作者: wishwong 時間: 11-1-3 16:46
原帖由 April2009 於 11-1-3 10:03 發表 
我囡囡上梗金鐘French,上左幾堂已可以用法文由1數到10. 上堂亦enjoy, 特別臨結束ar Sir一定吹一陣bubbles,小朋友勁鍾意. 
有興趣報讀可pm我, referral 大家都可以有discount! ...
你囡囡幾歲~~
作者: April2009 時間: 11-1-4 11:10 標題: 回復 7# wishwong 的帖子
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作者: cycream 時間: 11-1-7 12:48
原帖由 April2009 於 11-1-3 10:03 發表
我囡囡上梗金鐘French,上左幾堂已可以用法文由1數到10. 上堂亦enjoy, 特別臨結束ar Sir一定吹一陣bubbles,小朋友勁鍾意.
有興趣報讀可pm我, referral 大家都可以有discount! ...
你個囡咁勁?! 上幾堂就識1-10. 我個仔由11個月大上french到而加26個月大, 佢都係前幾個月先識1-10. 你個囡囡好有語言天份!!!!
作者: creamlacing 時間: 11-1-7 13:26
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作者: KT1028 時間: 11-1-9 15:22
我都想報係咪有人介紹有discount
作者: babyqueendom 時間: 11-1-9 22:44
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作者: 3pigmama 時間: 11-1-11 23:00
我個女都上左半年, 吾知大左識吾識講.
作者: accwingchan 時間: 11-1-12 14:07
是否只有法文? 學英文是否有discount ?
可否介紹我, 我都想參加
可否email : [email protected]
Thank you.
作者: babyqueendom 時間: 11-1-12 15:53
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作者: Popatbaby 時間: 11-1-13 11:29
請問有沒有現在返東山的朋友願意介紹我去試堂?我想試尖沙咀分校,因為交通比較方便我.
作者: Popatbaby 時間: 11-1-20 15:27
我已收到bk mama的介紹人資料，多謝大家的幫忙。
作者: howardmama09 時間: 11-1-21 12:24
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作者: KT1028 時間: 11-1-21 23:42
有無TST 分校的TEL ar, 你地的小朋友真係好勁ar, 我都希望我小朋友一樣得. thx.
作者: belle2009 時間: 11-1-21 23:49 標題: 回復 1# KT1028 的帖子
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作者: 3pigmama 時間: 11-1-22 12:41
My baby started there since last May. She is learning French, Spanish, English, Japanese.
作者: momo627 時間: 11-1-23 21:43
Anyone interested in 東山語言中心, I got $300 coupon for new member and you can enjoy 1 trial class.
My baby is having spanish and english classes and will do Japanese and Mandarin in Feb, to make it 3 lesson per week (cheaper for each class than having 2 lessons a week). My baby seldom speaks and love moving around, but he improves recently and do try to speak more, willing to stay and sit for longer term (of course he still move around sometimes in the class), and it is rare that we find him enjoy the class and always feel happy and don't want to leave when it is finished. I like the Spanish teacher esp. (CWB), she is good and does a lot of big motions to draw kids' attention and bring some props that kids will feel more interested in it.
If you are interested, please pm me and I can post you the coupon.
Actually I will get cash reward for my next semister for referral, so if you are interested and enroll the class, please let me know so that I can check with the staff.
Thanks.
作者: babyqueendom 時間: 11-1-23 22:06
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作者: Leading 時間: 11-1-23 22:51
搞九百幾樣野, 簡直在虐兒
有怪獸父母才有港童
作者: babyqueendom 時間: 11-1-24 09:40
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作者: howardmama09 時間: 11-1-24 12:56 標題: 回覆 3# Leading 的文章
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作者: cycream 時間: 11-1-24 15:48
算吧啦! bk 成日都有d人係咁架啦! 讀東山playgroup同讀其他playgroup都唔係好大分別,如果讀東山就係怪獸父母,虐兒既話, 咁我就覺得所有俾小朋友讀playgroup,都係怪獸父母同虐兒!!!
作者: momo627 時間: 11-1-24 17:20
Spending time everyday playing toys at home, or learn English or Mandarin the way the maid speak, I prefer letting my baby to have something to do and have fun.
We have gym class since he was 6 mths old, he loves it so much and runs around the play area and have fun, smiles happily everytime we got there.
Then we try music, he was so small and didn't like sitting down, so we didn't join. I just let him to try and if he likes it, do it and listening to music is good to building their persaonality. But as he didn't like it, I won't force him.
We have playgroup at Victoria also, of course 1 reason is to get bigger chance to get a place in their PN, but the main purpose is to let him have some training on how to do things like packing up toys after playing, painting, sit still and listen to what teachers say, dancing with music, pull chair and put the snack on the plate and eat it by himself and throw away rubbish, clean his hands.....it is useful to babies....my maid may not be able to do as well as the teachers. Also, he learns to greet with other babies and teachers, starts his "social life".
For language, as my baby can only speak very few words, I am quite nervious so I listen to my freinds' recommendations to try the language classes. The teacher (Spanish) is so good that my baby loves the class so much that he can now sit still and look at her lips and start pronouce a word by hearing her voice and seeing his lips (that we tried many times before but never succeed).....he enjoys the class as it is fun and don't want to leave after class. My hb and I had joined the class with him twice and we both get impressed and we want to learn Spanish after attending the class.
So we try other language now, like English and Mandarin, actually he will learn it in the coming Aug when he gets into PN, it is just 6 mths earlier. And my maid speaks in Mandarin but not good prononication, so I want him to learn the correct one. If he doesn't like it, we will drop the class.
Maybe you see we join so many playgroups, actually it is one or two lessons, 45 min @ a day on weekdays (so even 2 lessons, it takes 1.5 hrs a day), so he goes and learn after he wakes up and have milk in the morning and it is his most active time. We are not asking him to have half day or full day lessons.....and yes, the major point is, he enjoys and loves the classes, or else we won't do it.
作者: momo627 時間: 11-1-24 17:21
原帖由 howardmama09 於 11-1-24 12:56 發表
每個人也有不同想法,而每個父母也有不同ge教育方法,而目的只有一個,就是想"子女得到最好的"
或者你唔認同某些或其他人的想法,雖然bk係大家暢所欲言的平台,但也不用徧激地作出批評. ...
totally agree with you.
why people love critize on others in this way? People have different views and no one is absolutely correct.
作者: momo627 時間: 11-1-24 17:22
原帖由 howardmama09 於 11-1-24 12:47 發表
點解你認為搞到仔女周身刀，冇張利呢???點解唔可以周身刀，張張利!!!
可能你無去硏究過,閱讀過早教ge好處,世界知名兒童學家杜曼,七田真均有指出並得到確認,在3歲前接受語言學習是最有用,因為3歲前小朋友的右腦最發達,而 ...
Totally agree with you and I do have the same thoughts.
作者: momo627 時間: 11-1-24 17:27
原帖由 babyqueendom 於 11-1-23 22:06 發表
I agree that it is good to learn as many languages as possible, but have you considered whether the kid will have the time to keep learning the language as he/she grows up? A language can be lost if ...
Agree with you, it needs continued studies for language. As they will learn English and Mandarn in PN (some PN schools), and from K1 to K3 and primary schools and so on, we won't worry about practicing and learning.
For Japanese, I know Japanese (a bit) so it is ok for me to teach him myself. Actually I aim at giving him a chance to try and see if he likes it (cos I love going to Japan, haha); if he doesn't, just forget it and drop the class.
For Spanish, as it heard to be useful for future prospect, I will let him have classes on weekends.
And of course, if he doesn't enjoy having Spanish class, we won't force him. Luckily, he loves the teacher and he has fun there so he enjoys going there and doesn't want to leave when it is finished.
作者: howardmama09 時間: 11-1-24 18:22
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作者: Angine 時間: 11-1-24 23:00
Your comments below got no ground and not constructive at all, and the wordings are irritating. And you are not responding to the theme of this thread.
If you have relevant experience to share I guess parents here would like to read about.
Respect others, and be respectful please.
原帖由 Leading 於 11-1-23 22:51 發表
搞九百幾樣野, 簡直在虐兒
有怪獸父母才有港童
作者: babyqueendom 時間: 11-1-24 23:14
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作者: Angine 時間: 11-1-25 00:30
My boy started joining 東山 when he was 14/15 months. He started with Spanish and PTH. He enjoyed a lot. Then he attend French as well. He is 2 now.
He keeps learning Spanish, PTH and French till now. And he has English playgroup in another place which is closer to my home.
I talk to my son in both English and Cantonese. I also let my maid teaching him Indonesian too!!
To give a child multi-lingual environment is proven effective for a child to learn languages and to develop right brain. And if the language ability is good needless to mention how that helps a child in academic or long term personal development.
Don't just take one sided opinion. If a parent is interested to let a kid learning foreign languages, research more and read more UP-TO-DATE articles about early education and brain development of infants/children.
As a new parent, I believe we need an open-mind to grow and learn with our children. We never can imagine how smart and how talented our kids can be if we just stay with old theories and use old ways to raise them.
作者: howardmama09 時間: 11-1-25 00:42
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作者: winifred102 時間: 11-1-25 03:22
Hi Howardmama and Angelina,
I support what you both said. I think you both did a really good job and don't be discouraged by others who do not believe in you.
From some recent research, children have the ability to identify different languages as young as 3 to 6 month old.
When my boy was a new-born, I kept talking and talking to him even though he might not be able to understand what I said. According to some literature, talking to a new-born baby can stimulate his/her right brain which helps him/her to learn languages in later days. Owen can speak when he was 1.5 yrs old in english, cantonese and some simple PTH (although not as great as Howard who can speak several languages and can spell so many english words now!!!).
Owen is now two and is attending English and PTH playgroup everyday. So, I'd like to let him learn French and Japanese. I hope it's not too late. The major problem with Owen is that he has no patience to stay at his seat. Maybe, it's time for him learn this.
I would rather let him do something meaningful at those playgroup lessons, than watching TV at home or playing by himself only!!!
The only thing that I cannot afford is my time. I'm a working mom and what I can give him is only my night-time after work and the weekend. Feel sorry to Owen...
Luckily, my helper is very helpful and she can teach him english words and give him guidance while watching those Disney DVD with him.
作者: momo627 時間: 11-1-25 04:18
totally agree with Howardmama09, Angine and winifield 102.
作者: momo627 時間: 11-1-25 04:28
原帖由 howardmama09 於 11-1-25 00:42 發表
睇返之前d post原來你的小朋友依家都係東山返緊英文同普通話,仲話介紹其他人去試堂,我覺得真係奇怪,真係想問一下閣下又為何比自己小朋友學英文同普通話呢??難道你覺得自己學ge就係正宗,而其他語言就係外族?而你小朋 ...
wow, you are so smart that you can find her earlier post that her kids 都係東山返緊英文同普通話,仲話介紹其他人去試堂??? I can't believe it. Is she joking to us?
難道你認為要大家跟隨你的想法才不可笑???<--totally agree, and actually she does the same as we do....really strange.
我亦很相信天下父母都會以自己"子女為榮"無論子女是否聰明,美麗,是否學3種,5種語言,相信你也是吧.<--yes, actually we just try to give them chance to learn, if they can do it, good. If they don't like it, just drop the course.....this is nothing about "pround of the kids knowing many languages", I love my baby even he can only speak Cantonese and English.
而你所提及"教育局不認同學童同時讀兩間幼稚園"實在與這標題無關<----right. This is totally diferent thing.
Come on, it is not recommended to have both am and pm class a day as babies in this age need more rest, having 2 half day class everyday, they won't have a break, rush to have lunch and no rest, it is not good.
Like my case, even we have joined many playgrounds, he needs to attend 1 or 2 class (45 min each, as I mentioned above) a day, so it will only take 1.5 hr at most a day, my baby will go home after class, have lunch and sleep 2 hrs as ususal and play in the afternoon.
Entirely diferent things she are talking about, actually I think she mix up everything and thinks they are the same thing.
作者: momo627 時間: 11-1-25 04:37
Leading and BabyQueendom,
搞九百幾樣野, 簡直在虐兒<---so I guess you think it is 虐兒 as well as students have many homework to do, with different curriculum when they are in K1 up to primary.
有怪獸父母才有港童<---I don't understand your meaning of怪獸父母, but I thinkg the definition of港童is, many parents have 1 child only, spoil them and try to give anything good and what they ask for, the maid treat them as prince or princess that they can eat w/o moving. This happens as parents are sorry for having no time to stay with them.
Those 港童 are always in bad temper, with poor personality, thinking they are always right.....this is ethics, nothing about learning languages or joining playgroups. So it is the parents responsbility to teach them about "manner", etc. and there are some playgounds teaching kids in this aspect.
作者: momo627 時間: 11-1-25 04:39
原帖由 Angine 於 11-1-24 23:00 發表
Your comments below got no ground and not constructive at all, and the wordings are irritating. And you are not responding to the theme of this thread.
If you have relevant experience to share I gue ...
作者: howardmama09 時間: 11-1-25 13:09
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作者: Leading 時間: 11-1-25 22:42
D小孩無腦原因就是父母安排太多, 從1歲安排至25歲,不停安排学習硬知識，時程滿滿,孩子完全無機會跌過,痛過,反醒,修正,亦無時間思考
我唔係覺得讀東山PLAYGROUP有問題,我只係對這種安排背後的心理,想法感到心寒 --- 一天到晚比較你個仔識幾多個字,我個仔又識跳舞,純綷滿足家長
我兩個小孩無PLAYGROUP, 一個蘇浙, 一個維記
很快樂
作者: winifred102 時間: 11-1-25 23:13
Every parent has their own way to nurture their children. There is no right or wrong. Those parents who would like to arrange more for their kids just want to allow their children to expose to more varieties, they do not really want to intervene either. I agree that there are always some extreme cases. But is leaving the kids at home and just letting them playing by themselves a good way to teaching them?! I don't think so.
Anyways, I guess this thread is for those mommies who really want to have their kids to try more new things such as other foreign languages. If you are not this type of mommies, need not to read further on.
作者: saladkaylie 時間: 11-1-25 23:28 標題: 回復 10# howardmama09 的帖子
算吧 , 之前我已发現呢位 "xqueendom"成日上BK撩交抝 , 又粗言穢語中傷別人 , 被人deleted佢所posted嘅嘢 , 佢以為只得佢講得啱 , 人地就唔啱.
這只係一个平台for sharing, 所以可以不理此位 "乜queendom" :;pppp:
作者: howardmama09 時間: 11-1-25 23:30
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作者: momo627 時間: 11-1-26 00:07
原帖由 Leading 於 11-1-25 22:42 發表
D小孩無腦原因就是父母安排太多, 從1歲安排至25歲,不停安排学習硬知識，時程滿滿,孩子完全無機會跌過,痛過,反醒,修正,亦無時間思考
我唔係覺得讀東山PLAYGROUP有問題,我只係對這種安排背後的心理,想法感到心寒 --- 一 ...
D小孩無腦原因就是父母安排太多<---I can't see how you derive this conclusion. Too much caring by maid or spoil by mammy and won't let him do usual thgns like a prince should be the answer, not having many pg. And just opposite to what you though, he has chance to explore to different things and picks the one he likes and learns more, he won't be "no brain" as you said.
1歲安排至25歲,不停安排学習硬知識，時程滿滿,孩子完全無機會跌過,痛過,反醒,修正,亦無時間思考<---totally can't understand your logic, and can't see why having pg means孩子完全無機會跌過,痛過,反醒,修正,亦無時間思考. They are totally different things......I think you mix up everthing.
Let babies to do things by himself, don't help him when he falls down and let him learn how to stand up by himself except necceary help from parents, this should what we should do about your concern of letting kids to have機會跌過,痛過,反醒,修正,思考
And we have 1.5 hr lessons a week, he should have enough time to take rest, 修正 &思考 (those you concern).
我唔係覺得讀東山PLAYGROUP有問題,我只係對這種安排背後的心理,想法感到心寒 --- 一天到晚比較你個仔識幾多個字,我個仔又識跳舞,純綷滿足家長<---this is my 3rd reply, joining language class is only giving him chance to learn, enjoy the class and have fun if he likes, and have "social life" with other babies and adults. I have no intention to force him to take the class if he doesn't like it. and I never care whether he learn anything (even not one word), or know how to dance (of course I will feel happy if he can do more as he has improvement), my intention is not for "show off".
Actually many mammys and I (reply the 3rd time) our reasonale behind, but you hold your views....that I can see you never read others views/response but keep telling us what you think is right........but actually I do think you mix up everything, what u are saying are irrelevant.
So, as other mammys said, as you have no interest in listening to other mammys' views, you are just try to put some "comment's that are "rude" in my point of view and shows no respect to others. We welcome different views from mammys, but your comments are really "impolite". So agree with other mammys, leave us alone as you can only saying sth. hurting others feeling, but we want to share our experience for this topic, not aiming for argue with you on irrelevant things.
Thank you for your co-operation.
And sorry if my wordings are "impolite" and "rude" and may "hurt" you.
作者: momo627 時間: 11-1-26 00:10
原帖由 winifred102 於 11-1-25 23:13 發表
Every parent has their own way to nurture their children. There is no right or wrong. Those parents who would like to arrange more for their kids just want to allow their children to expose to more ...
totally agree w/u, esp. the 2nd para..
作者: momo627 時間: 11-1-26 00:17
原帖由 saladkaylie 於 11-1-25 23:28 發表
算吧 , 之前我已发現呢位 "xqueendom"成日上BK撩交抝 , 又粗言穢語中傷別人 , 被人deleted佢所posted嘅嘢 , 佢以為只得佢講得啱 , 人地就唔啱.
這只係一个平台for sharing, 所以可以不理此位 "乜queendom" :;pppp: ...
I can't understand why many people love doing this? what purpose for doing this and they will fell happy in this way?
I am so happy that I learn a lot here as many mammys are so great to share their view and information I need, like their comments on PN school, playgrounds, etc. and exchange information on details of interviews...really helps a lot.
Thank you for telling us her "habit", so we won't feel bad anymore and neglect her post.
作者: howardmama09 時間: 11-1-26 00:21
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作者: Angine 時間: 11-1-26 00:22
Again, your note just demonstrate your narrow-minded and self-center thinking. Hey this thread is about "有冇BB join 過東山語言中心可分享一吓", what's wrong if parents share our experience and current status of our kids at 東山?? I didn't read there are parents comparing things you stated.
My son goes to playgroup everyday, busy in absorbing new things by means of games, songs, interacting with others everyday. He also goes to playground everyday. He is a very happy boy. See? People can have different ways to raise children.
If no playgroup is your way, thank you very much. Then I think you don't have much to contribute in this thread.
But interesting, why you clicked this thread if you are not interested in playgroups??
原帖由 Leading 於 11-1-25 22:42 發表
D小孩無腦原因就是父母安排太多, 從1歲安排至25歲,不停安排学習硬知識，時程滿滿,孩子完全無機會跌過,痛過,反醒,修正,亦無時間思考
我唔係覺得讀東山PLAYGROUP有問題,我只係對這種安排背後的心理,想法感到心寒 --- 一 ...
作者: Leading 時間: 11-1-26 00:25
請大家唸一下,全世界除香港外,會有playgroup學5種語言!!!!!!!!!!!
要個1歲小孩去這樣 "玩" 呢d乜心態????????
這條標題內各仁兄, 全是東山父母,講落去沒意思, 夏蟲不能語冰
正是:
上士聞道, 奮而改之;
中士聞道, 若存若忘;
下士聞道, 大笑之;
不笑足以為道
作者: momo627 時間: 11-1-26 00:27
原帖由 howardmama09 於 11-1-25 23:30 發表
Very good point, I love especially those in I make in blue of your comments below:
請你自重,不要污染我們這個甘開心ge交流地方,
我地再重申這主題原意係各家長想分享一下在東山的經驗,樂趣.並不是"舌劍唇槍"挖苦別人的地方,如果你真係唔認同這裏大家想法,那就不要隨意加入:負能量:吧
你唔喜歡別人就用"怪獸"來形容,小朋友身教好重要!!!修養,言行舉止直接受于父母,所以我不敢想像你如何....
算吧,請你不要糾纏了,我們不需要你的參與!!!
我們不是在玩辯論比賽正反方,再一次謝謝,Thanks
作者: momo627 時間: 11-1-26 00:29
原帖由 Angine 於 11-1-26 00:22 發表
Again, your note just demonstrate your narrow-minded and self-center thinking. Hey this thread is about "有冇BB join 過東山語言中心可分享一吓", what's wrong if parents share our experience and current ...
作者: 3pigmama 時間: 11-1-26 00:29
東山的校長自己識10國語言,兒子於男拔畢業,以前亦是高官, 值得學習, 而且他對幼教的Research,十分有見地, 有些人都未睇過,所以根本吾同Channel.
時間會證明一切
我個女是超小B, 5個月join 東山. 10個月考4 間Pre-nursery. 全部都收. 13個月識叫Daddy. 如果上playgroup係無用.我都想佢分享下佢的教育方法. 不過算啦. 我地班東山家長明白一切便好了.
作者: momo627 時間: 11-1-26 00:39
原帖由 Leading 於 11-1-26 00:25 發表
請大家唸一下,全世界除香港外,會有playgroup學5種語言!!!!!!!!!!!
要個1歲小孩去這樣 "玩" 呢d乜心態????????
這條標題內各仁兄, 全是東山父母,講落去沒意思, 夏蟲不能語冰
正是:
上士聞道, 奮而改之;
中士聞道, ...
I do English + Mandarin (6 mth later he will learn it in PN) and Spanish (good for future prospect) and Japanese (for 2 lessons a mth only, for fun only, as I love Japnese, no problem to drop it anytime).....I pick 4 only, 2 are necessary even from PN up to secondary school, only Spanish is special but usful....
well.....yes, 5 languages, if you count Cantones.
You mean only HK people do this? I have done no research, but in real world, Hk is a competitive world, we try hard to let our babies to have good future, but not aiming to force them do what they don't like.
Do you know Cantonese, Mandarin and English? I know Japanese also, and having Spansh and Japanese is only let him find out which one he likes most.
Learning language can also have fun, have you tried their class? So how can do you know there is no fun that babies won't like it?
Haha, as you said, we are in different views, can't agree your "impolite and rude" comments especially. And yes, even you can do those "look like" difficult Chinese idoms, I can't see you know how to bring up your babies well if you still keep on critisizing on others inthis way. As other mammys said, parents are kids' sample, they will follow what you do....
So thanks for your opinions so far and I think this should be the end of our response to you and seeing your posts here again.
Thank you so much.
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作者: Angine 時間: 11-1-26 00:40
Read from another thread from another parent which so fits here:
道不同不相為謀,唔啱傾下次問咩都話唔知.唔使同佢地講仔女經,佢地唔會明.
原帖由 Leading 於 11-1-26 00:25 發表
請大家唸一下,全世界除香港外,會有playgroup學5種語言!!!!!!!!!!!
要個1歲小孩去這樣 "玩" 呢d乜心態????????
這條標題內各仁兄, 全是東山父母,講落去沒意思, 夏蟲不能語冰
正是:
上士聞道, 奮而改之;
中士聞道, ...
作者: momo627 時間: 11-1-26 00:45
原帖由 3pigmama 於 11-1-26 00:29 發表
東山的校長自己識10國語言,兒子於男拔畢業,以前亦是高官, 值得學習, 而且他對幼教的Research,十分有見地, 有些人都未睇過,所以根本吾同Channel.
時間會證明一切
我個女是超小B, 5個月join 東山. 10個月考4 間Pr ...
So how old is his kid started the class? I try the language classes as I do want to see if it really do help (really get some improvement since we joined last Nov), but I know many people have big difference in this aspect (for learning different types of languges since they are small).
Oh, your baby is so smart!
作者: 3pigmama 時間: 11-1-26 00:52
其實我好少批評人, 不過佢講D野根本都吾logical,又離題, 又冇品, 其實我都忍吾住要出聲. 我一定吾會教我的小朋友"踩人地個場". 更加吾會同佢"傾".
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thx............
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作者: momo627 時間: 11-1-26 21:57 標題: 回復 63# howardmama09 的帖子
exactly same thoughts with yours!
I never critize on others or leave msg here in this way, but her words are really irritating.
Yes, I learn from here, thanks for sharing of all mammys so that I know what and how and when to do what, b4 and after giving birth to babies (as most of my friends don't have child yet or they are to busy to share, and our parents are tool old and they may not with the same concept with our generation). I meet a lot of friends here, share our feelings, sharing good information and have gatherings.
We re not saying we don't accept differnent views, just don't say sth. to hurt others. That's .
作者: momo627 時間: 11-1-26 22:13
hi howardmama09,
can I know your son's progress since he joins till now.
My baby joins in Nov last yr, he has spanish first, once a week. We found it interesting and the teacher said it is better to let him have more classes the he has chance to "hear". I agree as no one can speak Spanish at home, and we can't teach them except listening to CD, and we try to repeat the words we heard (knowing the meaning) and practise with my baby.
But how long it takes for him to speak eg. the alphahett, count 1 to 10? I know different babies have different growth rate, but my baby is 19 mths now, seldom speak, but better after attending the class and try to pronouce a bit, bt no the "full word".
We tried Mandarin last week, as my hb said it is useful, and in the class, I was surprised to see my baby reading teacher's lip and try to pronouce the word eg. hung kei, he will try to say "hung" but fail to do "kei"....but really good, this is the first time I see he can do this as he nevers looks at people (even we talk to him except he wants sth.) and now he can try to speak a bit....we then try this at home, and yes, he improves much. Yet, I am thinking, how long would it take for him to have better improvement (cos yet he is lag behind from others.
I am not expecting those can speak 2 or 3 languages, counting 1 to 10 and A to Z when they are 20 mths or 2 yrs old.
And how many langages you have enrolled? Any tips that they won't mix up the words of different languages as some people always say the baby may speak a sentence with spanish + english + cantonese.
Thanks your for advice in advance.
作者: howardmama09 時間: 11-1-27 22:59 標題: 回復 1# momo627 的帖子
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作者: momo627 時間: 11-1-27 23:44 標題: 回復 68# howardmama09 的帖子
Thanks for your advice.
I think we have started too late.....as many 'comments' it is uselss or waste time or too harsh to 5 mths old baby to have language class so early....sigh! Another point is, as it is my maid who brings him to school, but she has no sense of danger to protect him, so we don't dare to let him go out with him by his own untill he is big and strong enough.
尤其是2歳前啟發右腦<---I heard this, that's why we started last Nov, and take more lessons now
而你小朋友現在剛19月呢,還未過黃金期而且才剛剛上了2個月,效果可能未有這麼快,但這時間正是他們開始說話,所以要好好把握.<--hope so ah.
My baby can walk and yes, doing the same as your baby, 主動d, and爬來爬去跟老師玩.
I do want to have 2 Spanish class a week also, agree with u, 希望刺激他多聽西班牙. So bad that I got poor memory, even I have classes with him, I forget immediately, my maid even do better job than me (I am too old to memorise new things), so we can
t speak Spanish to him at home, just rely on the CD playing the songs, and we sing with him and he seems knowing some words like those alphabet and good morning...so our progress is slower as we can't do as much as you do.
而我自己定了逢星期三整天跟他講日文<--so good you can do that by your own, I can speak a bit, but too lazy to teach lor.
And your baby is very smart, so happy for you.
As you mention you have 2 Spanish, French and English, so how many lesson you have a week/month? 4 lessons per week?
As we only start to try to have Mandararin and Japanese in Feb, but we have 3 lessons a week only, so we need to cut down the 2 Spanish class per week, to 5 Spanish/mth, 3 English, 3 Mandarin and 2 Japanese.
My hb thinks learning English and Mandarin is more useful and should start earlier, but to me, I think they will learn it in 6 mths later in PN, but ok for earlier leaning ger. Learning Japanese is only to see if he likes it, as I like going to Japan, haha.
Would you mind giving me your view on my arrangement of classes? Should I stick on 2 Spanish a week, and 2 English + 2 Mandarin in alternative week and forget about Japanese?
放心啦,我好相信你的小朋友一定會學得很好,只是未到時候,正如我小朋開始說話就停不了,而且銅鑼灣我也有上過,那些老師也不錯呢<---thank you so much for your encouragement....really hard to share on this as my friends' kids didn't join the class, and some may "critizie" on it. I join as one of my friend recommended me to try and her daugter started since she is 5 mths old.
Thanks you in advance.
作者: pandabonita 時間: 11-1-28 13:41
just passing by.
without a doubt parents enroll to these lang pgs did it w their best intention but have you mums considered the possible downside and whether it is the best / most cost effective (both time and $) way to train the brain and prepare your kids for kg application.
作者: momo627 時間: 11-1-28 19:53 標題: 回復 70# pandabonita 的帖子
Thanks for your sharing.
So would you mind sharing with us what is the "the possible downside" and any good suggestion that is "the best / most cost effective (both time and $) way to train the brain and prepare your kids for kg application."?
Looking forward for your sharing as it may help us knowing more good ideas.
Thank.s
作者: bettybeibei 時間: 11-1-29 13:49
其實學多學少都無錯與對, 我自己聽過東山校長 gar presentation, 試過 playgroup, 其實我覺得只要家長有時間, afford 到, 比小朋友學多 d 語言絕對無壞, 講真, BB (0-3) playgroup 真係玩玩下咁, 唔會 harsh 要 BB 寫字做功課, 有何壓力而言?
作者: pandabonita 時間: 11-1-29 15:20
each child and family background is different so downside for some might not be a downside for others. generally speaking though, children in a multilingual env will take longer to communicate in full sentences. similarly, best way to prepare my kids for kg and primary school might not be suitable for you (and anyway, I am still a learner) as that really depends on your target.
have you seen "can we believe the science"? it was on pearl a while back. in one episode, prof regan looked into various claims on improving childrens intelligence, scientifically. i am not sure if its still available on tvb's website but probably you can try to get a copy somewhere if you are interested.
原帖由 momo627 於 11-1-28 19:53 發表
Thanks for your sharing.
So would you mind sharing with us what is the "the possible downside" and any good suggestion that is "the best / most cost effective (both time and $) way to train the brain ...
作者: momo627 時間: 11-1-29 22:22 標題: 回復 73# pandabonita 的帖子
Sorry for my poor English, I can't quite understand what you are trying to tell.
I understand you are saying children living in a multilingual environment may take longer time to speak in complete sentences in same language as they may mix up with different ones (did I get it right?). And you are saying what suits your kids or not may not be equally applicable/useful to me.
As you said "have you mums considered the possible downside and whether it is the best / most cost effective (both time and $) way to train the brain and prepare your kids for kg application", I thought you will share with us your experience and views and any good ideas on how to do the best/in the most cost effective way to train the kids and prepare for KG.........it doesn't matter whether your case is applicable to us, it is just a forum for mammys to share their experience and we will learn from there and pick those suit our cases.
So it would be great if you could share your experience with us, that we can learn those no matter good/bad methods you have tried, we learn from them.
Thank you.
作者: pandabonita 時間: 11-1-30 13:52 標題: 回復 74# momo627 的帖子
as I mentioned b4, I am just passing by and the reason I clicked into this thread is to look for a good english course for my 2nd daughter b4 she starts k1 coming sept. my eng is not perfect but its quicker for me to type and apology if my msg was not clear.
children are v good in learning languages, they do not get confused in a multilingual env but it will take them more time and effort to process and digest the info. so eg, an average child should be able to say a few simple sentences by the age of 2. kids in a multilingual env might only be able to speak in complete sentences way after 2 but it might still be better off in the long run because they can speak om more than 1 language when they get older and if you dont need your kid to communicate in complete sentence by age 2, this is not going to be a problem for you.
sharing of my own experience and my personal view might not apply to you and might turn into a v long discussion, I think it will be better to share what I consider good info, eg. prof regan's tv program, you guys/mami can decide what best suits your situation. cuhk also have seminars on lang development:
http://www.ihcr.cuhk.edu.hk/events/main.htm
and if you havent already done so, I strongly recommend you visit the bk kg section to see what challenges some parents face on k1 interview.
cheers
作者: momo627 時間: 11-1-30 14:09 標題: 回復 75# pandabonita 的帖子
sorry that if I have said sth. wrong, and I don't mean to say your English is not good, I just want to avoid misunderstanding.
Thank you so much for your sharing, that makes me feel relieved as I am worry if you mean learnng multi language at 19 mth (my baby) is not good that he can't speak full sentence in the future, now I know you mean he may not be do as well as those 2 yr old kid but it is good in long term run as he can speak in different language, just later.
Thanks again for sharing of your information, and yes, maybe I should go and visitthose bk kg session instead of PN one only as I have been concentrating on PN interview at the moment.
Thanks again and apology for anything that make you feel bad.
作者: howardmama09 時間: 11-2-1 11:20 標題: 回復 8# momo627 的帖子
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作者: momo627 時間: 11-2-1 15:31 標題: 回復 77# howardmama09 的帖子
Hi, so happy to have your sharing. As most of my friends have not married and those married won't tell me in detail, so always looking for information in BK. So good that many mammys share their experience and I learn everything here since I was pregnant.
Yes, I do want to have Spanish 2 lessons/wk and agree with your point, and yes, I can't but my maid can pronouce some words.
如果你問我,我會選擇一星期基本2堂Spanish,一堂French+一堂(輪流Eng,pth,japanese)<--I didn't have French ah, only 5 (lessons) Spanish (once a week + 1 lesson) + 3 English + alterative (week) for Japanese and Mandarin.
As I will have trial for Japanese in Admiralty tmr, see if it is good or else, I will change back to 6 Spanish + 3 English + 3 Mandarin. It is hard to have 2 Spanish a week, as we join only 3 lesson a week, there will be only 4 lessons left for English & Mandarin....will see how he is doing and change me plan. Actually we did have 2 lessons week for Spanish in Dec and Jan.
Oh, which pn your baby is now studying. I am a bit worry as some pn, though said to have PTH/Eng session, but may only start from K1 or having 20 min@day for PN, so I am not sure if they will really do PTH/Eng in PN.
We have been having interviews for many schools, but we only got offers for pm sessions. Those in my top 5 priority, we haven't had interviews until March. But my baby is those who seldom speak (so we join language last Nov, after seeing my baby's performance in interviews in Oct, haha), and won't do what teachers ask, I don't think he can get a place from those "popular" ones.
Many mammys think it is good to have am class. I do think it may be, as it suits their sleeping & feeding time, and after school he can have lunch and take rest and even have 1 or 2 lessons a week in the afternoon. But he needs to get up much early (now he is 9 am, originally 8 am, but sometimes he doesn't sleep in the afternoon, so we let him to sleep more in the morning, then have language class at 10:15 am), is it good?
But sure if we have pm class, the time schedule changes upside down, sigh, I really don't know how to fit it, and he can't learn anything on weekdays (I am going saying to have many lessons a week, I mean there may be some cases there is vacancy for learning Spanish in weekday, but it is always full or no such option in Sat/Sun).
Glad to have your sharing!
作者: howardmama09 時間: 11-2-7 11:45 標題: 回復 1# momo627 的帖子
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作者: momo627 時間: 11-2-8 13:18 標題: 回復 79# howardmama09 的帖子
hi, so glad to meet u there.
I'll go tmr for PHT trial, if it is good, we'll have alternative Fri for PHT/Japanese. Any idea id Ms. Cai is good?
I am still struggling between the 2 for Spanish. "M" is really good & my son likes her very much, but her time schedule for "big B" is 9 am or 11:30 am or afternoon, which do not suit, and it sounds most bs are 2.5 yr old...do you think it is ok?
I want to see if we can have free trial for "R" tmr b4 PHT, but as you said, she may be a bit strict, and the girl there recommends me to "A", saying she is more active. What do you think?
How old those b are, in your baby's spanish class? I am not sure if my baby likes her. And if I switch to Admiralty, originally we can have language + music on Tue & Fri, now we need to "spread" and have 1 lesson a day in weekdays so no rest on Wed....so very headache.
And about English, the girl recommends JoJo to me, any idea? Cos we have "K" at the moment but my hb says there is nothing special, haha, esp. compared with our Spanish class.
Give me some advice ah. Thanks.
作者: Angine 時間: 11-2-9 23:24 標題: 回復 1# momo627 的帖子
Hi momo627,
I remember you said your son tried PTH the first time and his response was quite good right? So I would suggest you stick with that teacher. Which center you are in now? For PTH, I think teacher J is very good.
For Spanish, I think if your son likes M a lot, you should let him continue with M for awhile. My personal experience is M can really trigger the interests of kids and she has a very loving heart. May be sometime later when your son gets older say 24M you can then try R. I think R is good as she will impose discipline in the class which I think is good for kids of 24M. But first thing first we need to maintain the interest level of the kids in that language.
For my case my son was with M before, and now is with R. He is 2 now.
If talking about R and A, I prefer R more.
Hope this helps.
作者: momo627 時間: 11-2-10 20:16
原帖由 Angine 於 11-2-9 23:24 發表
Hi momo627,
I remember you said your son tried PTH the first time and his response was quite good right? So I would suggest you stick with that teacher. Which center you are in now? For PTH, I think ...
Thanks a lot for your advice and sharing your experience.
We tried Ms. Mui at CWB and yes, my son did respond to her. I have a trial class in Admiralty recently, and decide to go back to Ms. Mui.
But last time we did it for "small b" class, the staff said I should try "big b" one so that he can follow other kids to learn more....but I am worry if teacher will teach in a different way, as kids will be bigger than "small b" one, they can talk/speak and respond quick, but my son can't speak much yet (my experience in Admiralty trial class for big b class, all kids can do and get the right card and pronouce the words but my baby is too slow and can do nothing). Would you mind giving me some advice if the teacher will teach slowly and focus on small babies and let them read her lips and follows her, will they do the same in "big b" one....if it is the case, it is good to be in the big b class; if not, I think we need to stick to the "small b" on.
For Spanish, totally agree with u. I struggle a lot these days and finally decide that it is more important for my baby to be interested in the class first, and when he is big enough, as you said, 24 mths, he can change to R, if necessary.
And so lucky, when I asked the CWB staff if they can arrange a 10:15 class for Spanish (big b) class for me (cos my baby wakes up at 9 am and feels tired even only have 1 class at 10:15 am, so he can't have 2 classes in 1 day, and he will be too tired and hungry for 11:30 class)....and it is OK! I am so happy that we are so lucky. So we will stick to M.
As you said your baby used to have M class but change to R, so does this mean you think R is better?
作者: momo627 時間: 11-2-10 20:19
And, hi Angine, any advice for me for English teacher? We now do with K in CWB, nothing special, same as what my hb's comment.
Thanks a lot for your advice in advance.
作者: Angine 時間: 11-2-10 22:09 標題: 回覆 2# momo627 的文章
I think the purpose of letting your son to join the 1.5-2.5 yr class is to let your son to expose to those older kids so that he can imitate and learn from them. I think you can share with the teacher about your concern, see if she can give you any advices. She knows her students therefore I believe she should be able to give you some clue whether your son can do the big B class.
I think M and R are both very good teachers with different styles. In the past M was in TKO center therefore we started with her. The TKO center merged with the other centers therefore we changed to Adm for R class.
My son does not take regular English class in LB therefore I can't say much on this. But I did try JoJo in Adm and I think she is good.
Hope this helps.
作者: momo627 時間: 11-2-11 05:21
原帖由 Angine 於 11-2-10 22:09 發表
I think the purpose of letting your son to join the 1.5-2.5 yr class is to let your son to expose to those older kids so that he can imitate and learn from them. I think you can share with the teach ...
Thanks a lot for your advice.
Yes, I do ask the teachers and the staff and all of them said I should try the "Big b" class. So we will start from today English class and for other languages too.
The most important thing is, babies should not have big variance in their age in the same class. As he is now 19 mths, he can't speak and do (esp. he is slower than other boys in this age) as well as a 2.5 yr old kid, so better to be with +/-3 to 4 mths varience.
Yet, our experience today is not good. We have Eng class today. Kids are only 2Y but they started their class earlier, so Long Long can only sit there, don't know what to do, can't respond, but other kids can speak and pronounce and get the right pictures when teacher asks them to do so.....and the teacher won't do those "holding his hands and asks him to repeat her words one by one (I wonder if it is only for "small b class")", I don't know if this is the difference between "big b or small b" class, but when I ask the teacher, she says it is the same....so maybe her teaching method doesn't suit Long Long. So sometimes it really need to try to see which teacher can have good "connection" my babies, but I am too tired to try another teacher in other branches.......yes, but I do want to find a good English teacher for Long Long, as English is very important, so maybe we can have our last try to attend Ms. JoJo class.
I find the Spanish and Mandarin teachers in CWB will do what I want whe we have "small b" one ("insist him looks at her and follow her to speak), hope they keep the same practice for "big b" class.
Today my friend tells me she is interested in one teaching English and Japanese also and she is searching details for it. So maybe I will see if it is good and switch to other schools.
And thanks for your advice again.
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作者: momo627 時間: 11-2-12 13:14 標題: 回復 86# howardmama09 的帖子
Hi howardmama09,
Thanks for your sharing.
Yes, I do take your advice (the day we met at Admiralty) and change all my classes to "big B" class, see if he can do it. So my baby is "slower" compared with other boys at the same age, I need to see how he responds and I don't think he can be as smart as your son and I think he may not like "strict" teacher, so I finally decide to stay with M (esp. they arrange the scheudule esp. for me so that we can have the morning class at the exact time I want), and when he gets older, like 24M, I will let him try R to learn discipline.
Yes, after K class yesterday, I do find she is sweet but nothing special, I like those teachers who will "force" babies to read their lips and follows, but she is not that kind. So I will try J Eng class, see if she is good then I will switch to her. Thanks a lot for telling me this.
遅d你想一星期兩堂時就可以試R.到時或者我地可以一齊上堂.<-- u mean one by M and another by R in a week? Is it good to have 2 different teachers at the same time?
就以我小朋友來說,他初初(13 months)上大b時也是同你仔仔一樣,但小朋友模仿很快,其他小朋友的表現正好激發你仔仔一起學習,事半功倍!!小朋友好快會適應,你試下la.可能有想不到效果.<--yes, we will try, but experience in first Eng lesson is not good, actually it may not be the problem of having Big or Small b class, he seldom sees what others kids do but focus on himself only, do what he wants to do, go away and take the tools he likes, he won't sit still and look at other babies or teachers, even I am there, I need to "hold" him siting on the sofa or chair so that he can concentrate on what the teachers say....so if the teacher is not that "force him to look at her lips and ask him to follows" type, he will just run around the room and do what he wants. That's why I struggle if I should stay at Small b class.
I try"蔡"last week, she is nice, but she is "that type" of teacher I am looking for, so we will go and have M in CWB.
Thanks a lot for your sharing, which helps me a lot. You know, we can't try all teachers, seeing which one is good and suits our baby, so really nice to have mammy sharing their thought so that I can have some tips in which one I should try.
Thanks again.
作者: CC113 時間: 11-2-15 00:56
Hi, my son has started English and PTH class in LB for a month, he is now 2 yrs old. For Eng class, I like teacher JoJo and teacher Seby, we will meet Emily later. Ms. J and Ms. Choi are good for PTH class.
I would like to apply Spanish class for my son, does anyone can tell me how to teach Spanish at home? and which teacher is good in Admiralty and TST center?
Thank you:)
作者: woodyma 時間: 11-2-15 15:13
請問有没有人可以做我的介紹人，多謝！
請e-mail: [email protected]
作者: momo627 時間: 11-2-15 16:03
sure as we can get cash credit. I pm you details in pm here and your email la.
作者: 5566xs 時間: 11-2-17 11:31
我都想搵人介紹 : [email protected]
作者: momo627 時間: 11-2-17 13:39
pm u details here and to you hotmail la.
Thanks ah.
作者: momo627 時間: 11-2-18 10:49
Hi, woody ma,
I got your reply to my email, thanks.
But sorry that I miss out that I need your information also to counter check with the staff to get my credit.
I have sent you pm here and your hotmail for details. Grateful if you could reply me and thank you in advance.
[ 本帖最後由 momo627 於 11-2-21 04:41 編輯 ]
作者: lpanna 時間: 11-2-18 13:50
介紹埋我！！
作者: momo627 時間: 11-2-18 18:43
Ipanna, pm u details la. Pls check.
作者: momo627 時間: 11-2-21 05:02
For those mammys asked for trial class, I have pm you information. But at the same time, other than I give u my details so that you can enjoy trial class, would you mind replying me by pm me if you have enroll the class and let me have your detials too (same as what I gave u), so that I can countercheck with the staff to get my cash credit.
(1) your baby name
(2) your name
(3) your phone no.
If you find it is not good and will not enroll, could you please pm me or leave a msg in the thread so that I know the status. It is fine to me if you won't enroll, I just want know what happened?
No problem if you didn't enroll the class, just let me know your decision, it would be fine to me, always wondering how you feel about the class and if you have enrolled or not.
Sorry for any inconvenience caused and Happy new year to your family, too, wish you and your baby and your family healthy and happy everyday.
Thanks again.
作者: flywu 時間: 11-2-21 14:55 標題: 回復 22# momo627 的帖子
i am interested in the class, would you mind send me some more information of it? is the class really nice for child? my son is 14 months old and he is super active..... my email address: [email protected]
thanks
作者: momo627 時間: 11-2-21 15:09
原帖由 flywu 於 11-2-21 14:55 發表
i am interested in the class, would you mind send me some more information of it? is the class really nice for child? my son is 14 months old and he is super active..... my email address: wingyee.fly@ ...
for information, you can check on is website:
http://www.beaumont.edu.hk/web/ch/index.php
and pls. check pm here.
actually my son is 19 mth old, and he is super active since he was small, now he is willing to sit down and stay a while (as every babies do) and listen to what teachers say and tell stories. He will look at her lips and follows to pronounce....so I can see improvement as my son is slow in his progress of "speaking", it do helps. And he now try to follow the songs in CD (Spanish) to 'le le la la", haha, this is his first step doing this.
Not sure if it is because of the class or he grows up so he knows more, but he won't look at our lips and follow us, but the teacher can do it.
If you like Spanish, Murah in CWB is really good, very sweet and nice and her class is very interesting, so even I don't know Spanish, I know what she meant, and even my hb and I love her class too. So if you want to try and CWB is convenient to u, go and try. Yet there are many good teachers in Admiralty as howardmama09 and other mammys said in this thread.
[ 本帖最後由 momo627 於 11-2-21 15:23 編輯 ]
作者: chris1888 時間: 11-2-22 13:36
hi all,
If i only chosse one language to my son (20 months now), what should i choose, French or Spanish? Pls. give me some advice. Thanks.
作者: babyqueendom 時間: 11-2-22 14:01
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