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作者: yanyan-mummy 時間: 10-12-11 16:01 標題: 想讀醫高中要選什麼科?
如題~
thx~~
作者: ANChan59 時間: 10-12-12 06:17
You can go to the HKU and CUHK website to see their entrance requirement(s).
Languages, Maths, Liberal Study and Chemistry are compulsory, others are optional. Refer to the website for details.
作者: yanyan-mummy 時間: 10-12-14 00:02
原帖由 ANChan59 於 10-12-12 06:17 發表 
You can go to the HKU and CUHK website to see their entrance requirement(s).
Languages, Maths, Liberal Study and Chemistry are compulsory, others are optional. Refer to the website for details.
thx~~
作者: andesartin 時間: 11-1-4 13:56
Chemistry is very important for studying Medical Science, more important than Biology. Can choose Chemistry and Combined Science (Physics + Biology), Mathematics (Compulsory Part + 1 module)
作者: ha8mo 時間: 11-1-6 11:42
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作者: andesartin 時間: 11-1-11 21:58
Chemistry, Combined Science (Phy + Bio) -- if the school does not offer Phy , Chem, Bio as 3X subjects. Plus, M1 or M2 in math
作者: mio8390 時間: 11-2-28 14:12
原帖由 andesartin 於 11-1-4 13:56 發表
Chemistry is very important for studying Medical Science, more important than Biology. Can choose Chemistry and Combined Science (Physics + Biology), Mathematics (Compulsory Part + 1 module)
考醫科是可以在中學時不修Biology。
作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-3-3 09:55
原帖由 mio8390 於 11-2-28 14:12 發表
考醫科是可以在中學時不修Biology。
Yes.
Majority of Biology topics not related to Human Science.
作者: yyyy 時間: 11-3-3 11:36
如果phy及bio二選一,正路是否選bio?
原帖由 ANChan59 於 11-3-3 09:55 發表
Yes.
Majority of Biology topics not related to Human Science.
作者: ha8mo 時間: 11-3-3 12:41
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作者: yyyy 時間: 11-3-4 12:21
即是說如果想報醫科,u會睇phy chem多過chem,bio?
原帖由 ha8mo 於 11-3-3 12:41 發表
正路選Physics
搞掂佢先至入U比較好
bio從頭讀起比phy易
你諗下以往AL通常係兩個組合
Phy Chem Pure Applied
Phy Chem Bio
個個都讀Phy Chem
就知邊樣緊要D
作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-3-4 23:37
原帖由 yyyy 於 11-3-4 12:21 發表
即是說如果想報醫科,u會睇phy chem多過chem,bio?
Put it this way, my son said he dropped Bio and picked up Phy because it's easier to score higher in the exam relative to Bio. Not the university prefer that.
作者: siumiu2010 時間: 11-3-9 16:08
但是好多人說讀physic 難????
但 it's easier to score higher in the exam relative to Bio.
作者: 3pigmama 時間: 11-3-13 18:05
it depends on your strength. To me, biology is easier than physics. However, you have to spend more time in preparing the lab reports for biology.
anyway, getting B is not difficult for biology and chemistry, but not for physics. I am not sure if getting 2B 1 C can get into Medical Dept or not .
If only 3As can get into Medical Dept, I suggest you to choose the subject which is your strength.
作者: yyyy 時間: 11-3-17 12:13
我女女是喜歡bio的...但無奈bio的分數沒有phy高,而她又覺得,phy到最後始終都是男孩子的天下...再加上她覺得bio對讀醫的幫助比讀phy大..是否她還是應該緊持選bio...
原帖由 3pigmama 於 11-3-13 18:05 發表
it depends on your strength. To me, biology is easier than physics. However, you have to spend more time in preparing the lab reports for biology.
anyway, getting B is not difficult for biology an ...
作者: ha8mo 時間: 11-3-18 11:27
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作者: yyyy 時間: 11-3-18 16:16
有朋友說,近來想讀醫的人數少了,因覺得太辛苦,相反,物理治療就多左人讀...
女兒的性格是外冷內冷,佢自己,佢父母及父母的朋友都覺得她適合讀醫..至於是否可以成功讀到...大家都是盡力而為..
如無意外,女兒在中六時只能讀6科...她要在現在(中三)讀緊的9科中選,9科是:中英數,phy chem bio,a.math,music,global perpectives;中五時只能讀6科,最多揀2科science...所以一定要捨棄一科science...
原帖由 ha8mo 於 11-3-18 11:27 發表
你女兒是否非內外全科醫學士不讀？
大家都知現時入醫科係非全A（或將來5*）都沒十足把握。
咁你女兒有冇考慮過失手後的處理？
我近日再失一次各大學的收生要求
見PolyU的物理治療及相關學科的入學要求係preferably with B ...
作者: Sindy 時間: 11-3-22 16:22
原帖由 yyyy 於 11-3-18 16:16 發表
有朋友說,近來想讀醫的人數少了,因覺得太辛苦,相反,物理治療就多左人讀...
女兒的性格是外冷內冷,佢自己,佢父母及父母的朋友都覺得她適合讀醫..至於是否可以成功讀到...大家都是盡力而為..
如無意外,女兒在中六時 ...
讀醫bio唔係必需的...
作者: Sindy 時間: 11-3-22 16:25
原帖由 ANChan59 於 11-3-3 09:55 發表
Yes.
Majority of Biology topics not related to Human Science.
無錯,但係chem係必需的
作者: cow 時間: 11-3-22 21:57
在「三三四」學制下, 入中大醫學系, chem 晤係必需的.
作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-3-22 22:08
原帖由 Sindy 於 11-3-22 16:25 發表
無錯,但係chem係必需的
I know Chemistry is compulsory, I just answer other's question related to Biology.
Amazing CUHK no need for Chemistry.
A good friend of mine reminded me to take some Medical schools in UK as back up and not necessary practise in HK - the requirement of Non-JUPAS in IB is unreasonable.......
作者: Sindy 時間: 11-3-22 22:35
原帖由 ANChan59 於 11-3-22 22:08 發表
I know Chemistry is compulsory, I just answer other's question related to Biology.
Amazing CUHK no need for Chemistry.
A good friend of mine reminded me to take some Medical schools in UK as back ...
話你無錯囉
想support你的回覆而已...
(OH...原來我打多左'但係兩個字,sorry)
作者: yyyy 時間: 11-3-23 10:42
the requirement of Non-JUPAS in IB is unreasonable.......我都有這樣的感覺...cuhk: 40 vs hku:39...是最低要求...
雖然chem及bio可能都不是必須..不過如果想讀醫..先作好準備都是好的...
中五時要揀history或geography...應該如何選擇呢??這兩科在中三及中四沒有讀的...
原帖由 ANChan59 於 11-3-22 22:08 發表
I know Chemistry is compulsory, I just answer other's question related to Biology.
Amazing CUHK no need for Chemistry.
A good friend of mine reminded me to take some Medical schools in UK as back ...
作者: ha8mo 時間: 11-3-23 11:32
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作者: Lavendar 時間: 11-3-23 13:14
新高中課程下, 讀醫科要幾多年才可完成課程?
作者: cow 時間: 11-3-23 13:46
---6年---
作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-3-23 14:47
原帖由 yyyy 於 11-3-23 10:42 發表
the requirement of Non-JUPAS in IB is unreasonable.......我都有這樣的感覺...cuhk: 40 vs hku:39...是最低要求...
雖然chem及bio可能都不是必須..不過如果想讀醫..先作好準備都是好的...
CUHK 40-42 (not included bonus point) only for interview, for admission 41 is the minimum.
We asked two professors from CUHK and HKU medical schools, they said Chemistry is critical for medicine, but human science is much easier to pick up, say 3-4 months. That's why my son stick to Chemistry and drop Biology.
In my good old days, more than half medical students came from Maths stream instead of Biology stream. One of the Medicine professor also studied maths stream in A-L.
作者: ha8mo 時間: 11-3-23 15:30
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作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-3-23 22:36 標題: 回覆 28# ha8mo 的文章
I didn't check your source, but it's a good news for students aim for medicine. They can maximise their scores with different combination of subjects, so I can see more short cuts.
How about HKU?
How to link with other medical schools in overseas. They insist Chemistry as compulsory.........
(My son's case is IB and not HKDSE, he can only choose 2 science subjects as max, so he picked Chem & Phy to maximise scores.)
作者: mattsmum 時間: 11-3-27 19:17
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作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-3-27 23:41
IB requirements for UK medical schools:
http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/ ... h_UK_medical_school
Even Cambridge and Oxford Medical School Entrance Requirements are lower than HKU & CUHK.
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作者: Amandakok 時間: 11-3-28 10:57
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作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-3-28 13:30 標題: 回覆 32# Amandakok 的文章
Would you explain more about the marks of IB??
(IBDP has 6 subjects, each subject's range from 1 to 7, so maximum is 42=6*7 points; IBDP also has 3 bonus points based on the results of Extended Essay and Theory of Knowledge, if my memory is correct, if both EE and TOK got B or abovem you can get all 3 bonus points. In UK, they count the scores including bonus points. In HK, they only count 6 subjects' total score and excluded bonus point. Further, you need to pass CAS and the diploma will be granted.)
As I am not familiar with the IB marks,
40 is very high??
(Yes, pretty high no matter bonus point being counted or not.)
From how many subjects??
(Refer to your first question's answer.)
The max marks of each subject is 10??
(7 is max.)
For AL, 3A ~ we know that it is a very good result, but how about IB??
(GCE AL, 30% got A. HKAL, 1 (Usage of English)~11% (Eng Lit) got A. IBDP SL & HL scored 7 ~ 7% for overall 6 groups.)
If you want detail breakdown of each subject by each level, pls refer to the following link in IBO:
http://www.ibo.org/facts/statbulletin/dpstats/documents/May2010Statisticalbulletin.pdf
Pg 27-34.
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作者: cow 時間: 11-3-28 13:38
6 subjects max 7 points each(total max 42 poitns) + max 3 bonus points of the extended essay. cuk medicine needs at least 40/42 for interview.
作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-3-28 13:47
原帖由 cow 於 11-3-28 13:38 發表
6 subjects max 7 points each(total max 42 poitns) + max 3 bonus points of the extended essay. cuk medicine needs at least 40/42 for interview.
Be exact, 40~42 excluded bonus points. For admission 41~42 excluded bonus points.
作者: meimeimama1 時間: 11-3-28 16:15
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作者: ha8mo 時間: 11-3-28 17:54
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作者: mattsmum 時間: 11-3-28 18:44
after all these days's news about how long their working hours are, 不要斤斤计较 etc. , would students or parents change their mind about this profession?
作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-3-28 21:21
原帖由 ha8mo 於 11-3-28 17:54 發表
Then I think they are reasonable. It is important to protect the interest of local candidates and spend public money on those who have determined to serve the local community.
You only see one side of the coin.
Even you are graduated from Cambridge and certified from UK. You still need to sit for professional examination. It's not public money only, man, it's protectionism
. That's why we are short of doctors........
If students have such high scores, they will be accepted by top notch universities like Ivy League and or Oxfridge. They still take medicine in HK, so their commitment in HK local community should be more than students just local curricullum.
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作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-3-28 21:49
原帖由 mattsmum 於 11-3-28 18:44 發表
after all these days's news about how long their working hours are, 不要斤斤计较 etc. , would students or parents change their mind about this profession?
You only highlighted the public sector in HA.
How about in private sector? Where the consultants from HA are going? A name in medical field called "星球人" - it means the doctor earns more than HK$1M per week.......
I also highly regards Dr. Lo Chun Mau in QM in his recent interviewed by Ming Pao, he can earn much much more in private practice and less working hours ...... He wants to train more surgeons in public sector......
作者: KK07 時間: 11-3-29 00:56 標題: 回覆 39# ANChan59 的文章
This 'Protectionism' happens in many places including US. I think most of the US medical schools don't have quota (or very few) for foreign students. And foreign students who want to practise in US, they also need to sit their professional exam. I believe that protecting local students is a reasonable policy in view that the government subsidizes a huge amount to each medical student in local universities.
作者: Amandakok 時間: 11-3-29 08:57 標題: 回覆 33# ANChan59 的文章
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作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-3-29 10:03 標題: 回覆 41# KK07 的文章
But local students take IB also local students ....... They are not foreign students .......
Good news is no more EAS, medical schools will take more non-JUPAS students, as they tend to admit best students and not based on curricullum.
I addressed a coin have two sides, the Medical Council's protectionism is manipulated the passing rate and HK cannot expand the talent pool easily.
In many other professional bodies, we have Reciprocial Recognition Agreement .........
作者: ha8mo 時間: 11-3-29 10:25
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作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-3-29 13:40 標題: 回覆 44# ha8mo 的文章
You raised some good questions for discussion:
1. Universities have say on local syllabus and public examination - Any professor from local universities confirm this?
2. Are we as employers or supervisors satisfy our graduates' standard? If (1) valid, I doubt about the standard of the professor. Some professors complained to me that they can't control the incoming standards of students, except some hot programs. I don't think (1) only serve hot programs.....
3. Of course, they have limited participation in IB curricullum. As a parents, we pick IB not because of curricullum and examination alone, more focus on the teaching method, language proficency, better exposure ...... If my boy really want to do medicine, he needs to work harder and he will have more options eventually. I won't complain about the reality, no absolute fairness in the world.
4. IB 42 excluded bonus points equivalent to 6.5 A of GCE AL. Very soon, we don't have HKAL, so IB standard may be slightly better than HKDSE; I assume IB and GCE AL not much changed in syllabus.
5. Professional bodies have their own entrance requirements, they also may have reciprocal recognition agreement with other bodies or countries. I am in a working group of a professional body in HK. We would like to re-ramp the professional assessment framework from university program standard, training scheme, professional examination, aligned with recriprocal recognition agreement, comply with local regulations, ordinace and laws, language proficiency. We aligned with some international standard(s) to ensure our professionals can practise in other countries. Medical field in HK seems to take a backward route, from globalization to protectionism.
6. Do you know the passing rate of medicine's professional examination?
I am sorry to side track the discussion of the original thread. I will stop here.
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作者: KK07 時間: 11-3-29 23:00 標題: 回覆 43# ANChan59 的文章
I may overlook your previous posting about your son studies IB in HK. Yes, local students take IB are local students.....in that case, I'm not qaulified to comment as I'm not familiar with IB and how it should be compared with HKDSE. However, I'd assume that most of the students who take IB are planning to study aboard or compete with foreign students in HK for admission to local universities. Anyway, hope your son will be able to achieve the highest mark.
作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-3-30 11:24 標題: 回覆 46# KK07 的文章
"However, I'd assume that most of the students who take IB are planning to study aboard or compete with foreign students in HK for admission to local universities. "
That's your assumption for IB and many parents have the same impression.
Some middle class parents in HK really fed up by our "Local" educational policy and never ending changes. If possible (resources wise), we may try to DIY our kids education plan, like DSS for junior high, IB for senior high and he/she has options for overseas and local universities. HKDSE may take years to have better recognition internationally.
By doing that we need to pay more $$$, pay more time to do research and seek for others opinion and the boy may need work much harder to get better grade and exposures.
Local IB students compete with most are local students and not foreign students. In non-JUPAS, most students are through GCE AL, IB, Higher Diploma, Chinese students (5%) and even postgraduates (15 out of 130 CUHK medical students are postgraduates, 2010-11 intake. ). Foreign students are still minority, particularly in hot programs.
作者: KK07 時間: 11-3-30 13:40 標題: 回覆 47# ANChan59 的文章
I understand the rationale behind parents nowadays prefer to send their kids to international schools, IB…. Many parents are fed up by the education policies. But no offence, I still hold my saying. Yes, there are keen competition among the non-JUPAS applicants, but according to the admission policy, the non-JUPAS queue is open to the whole world. Joining this queue implies that you are willing and planning to compete with foreign students (or as you said, non main stream local students). No doubt IB or GCE AL students need to work hard and spend more money on their education, however, if they get excellent result, they are having a more promising chance to get into prestigious universities in other part of the world (compared with the new HKDSE). So, at the end of the day, this is a trade-off.
作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-3-30 14:29
原帖由 KK07 於 11-3-30 13:40 發表
But no offence, I still hold my saying. ...
Your saying is truth, no offence. We make the choice and follow the rules of game. I just compare the admission requirement with other top notch universities only.
Now, I know why LPCUWC in average only one student per year to take medicine in HK, even their scores are so impressive internatonally.
Be honest, the first three batches of HKDSE have more spaces for medicine
(1) No more EAS (1/3 of spaces) ; and
(2) Take more medical students, from 130 to 210 (valid for both CUHK & HKU).
The chance of JUPAS & non-JUPAS students will be improved.
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作者: KK07 時間: 11-3-30 23:18
You always able to provide valid figures for analysis. Yes, hope that all students who want to be a good doctor could get into the Faculty of Medicine. I can feel that we are getting less and less doctors with 'heart'.
原帖由 ANChan59 於 11-3-30 14:29 發表
Your saying is truth, no offence. We make the choice and follow the rules of game. I just compare the admission requirement with other top notch universities only.
Now, I know why LPCUWC in averag ...
作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-3-30 23:23
原帖由 KK07 於 11-3-30 23:18 發表
You always able to provide valid figures for analysis. Yes, hope that all students who want to be a good doctor could get into the Faculty of Medicine. I can feel that we are getting less and less d ...
Most of medicine students are whole-hearted originally, only the system, red tapes and bureaucracy in HA..........
作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-4-6 22:53
醫科要求傳統理科
文章日期：2011年4月6日
【明報專訊】在新高中學制下，教育局鼓勵學生文理並重，在7.8萬名首屆文憑試考生中，修讀傳統「生物、化學、物理」的純理學生減至5538人，另有1.1萬人選修課程減半的「組合科學」或「綜合科學」科。但本報發現，部分海外名牌大學的部分理科和醫科課程，不承認「組科」屬理科資歷，令部分理科生被拒升學，海外留學夢恐難圓。
逾萬文憑試考生修讀
教育局回應，一般而言學校在中三向家長及學生介紹學校的選科政策，並進行選科調查，然後因應實際情為學生提供合適的科目選擇。發言人續稱，海外院校訂定文憑試收生要求時，不同學科或按課程水平、評核要求、訂定成績等級的標準，有不同的收生要求。
現時考評局網頁列出35間英美等地已承認香港中學文憑試的大學，包括美國耶魯大學、英國劍橋大學等名校的收生要求，部分學校個別學科卻不承認文憑試的組合科學和綜合科學。例如劍橋大學醫科要求學生從化學、生物、物理和數學4科中選修3科，鄧迪大學（University of Dundee）醫科要求學生修讀化學、生物以及另一選修科。
有部分本地名校學生因學校修課安排，無法攻讀「物理、化學、生物」科，只能讀一個理科另加組合科學，但向英國多所大學查詢時，卻發現組合科學不獲承認，出現不能銜接問題（見另稿）。
鄧迪大學收生代表﹕可報基礎課程銜接
本報曾嘗試向上述大學查詢，其中英國鄧迪大學在港收生代表、麥理覺教育服務經理戴志暉表示，該校承認文憑試，但醫科不接受學生以組合科學或綜合科學，取代生物和化學科。至於其他學科則視個別課程而定，若課程要求學生修讀數學，學生必須修讀延伸部分。
他補充，若學生只修讀一科理科，可考慮申請報讀該校為期1年的醫科基礎課程，先修讀生物、化學等基礎知識，再銜接該校5年的醫科本科。
戴志暉建議，學生可考慮在中五時前往英國升讀第11班，透過高考或基礎班升讀大學。他透露，不少英國和澳洲大學也向他反映，「即使接受文憑試成績，也不是所有課程也接受組合科學和綜合科學」，建議有意日後出國升讀理科課程的學生，宜選報生物、化學、物理等傳統理科課程。
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原帖由 ha8mo 於 11-4-7 17:30 發表
引用:有部分本地名校學生因學校修課安排，無法攻讀「物理、化學、生物」科，只能讀一個理科另加組合科學
邊D名校？全校學生都唔讀得嗎？
定只係學校入面部分學生唔夠同學爭入全理班咋？
朋友個女讀港島東名校張x珊，學校唔俾攻讀「物理、化學、生物」科，只能讀一個理科+組合科學+文商科。
作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-4-9 11:07
原帖由 JP 於 11-4-8 15:43 發表
朋友個女讀港島東名校張x珊，學校唔俾攻讀「物理、化學、生物」科，只能讀一個理科+組合科學+文商科。
CCSC's original intention was expanded the exposure of students in different streams and control the number of subjects for HKDSE. CCSC only allowed students to take max 8 subjects in HKCEE, therefore no 9A or 10A, 8A was the max in HKCEE.
The Principal is very smart and also the only school 4 years ago, enrolled students based on rank order list plus ECA scores, no need for interview. They did a longitudinal study about the rank order list result vs the student performance in their school.
CCSC more focus on local universities, not a real problem for their students.
作者: mattsmum 時間: 11-4-12 18:19
醫局﹕空缺多醫生少
(明報)2011年4月12日 星期二 05:05
【明報專訊】醫管局 行政總裁梁栢賢表示，近年公立醫院醫生流失率高，2011至2012年醫管局需要聘請330名醫生，但受制於這數年醫科新畢業的人數只得250至280人，無法填補公立醫院所需的醫生人手。食物及衛生局長周一嶽 表示，政府會循不同途徑增加醫生供應，2015年7月新畢業的醫科生將會增至320人，短期而言醫管局會研究聘請外國醫生，並會聘請兼職醫生，包括已退休的醫生，以紓緩醫生人手壓力。
擬聘外援增學額
立法會 衛生事務委員會昨討論醫管局醫生流失問題，民建聯 陳克勤表示，公立醫院醫生流失，除私營醫院挖角，醫生工時過長亦是問題癥結。他又說，即使增加晉升機會，增設副顧問醫生和顧問醫生，這些醫生要兼顧管理，減少前線工作，擔心無法減低前線醫生工作量。
梁栢賢表示，處理醫生工時過長問題，必須增加醫生人手，但港大和中大兩所醫學院，今年至2015年只每年培訓250名新畢業醫科生， 醫管局受制於新畢業醫生的人手供應，無法在短期內處理醫生工時過長的問題。但醫管局會有專責小組研究，用專科委員會的建議去檢視人手安排。據悉，政府擬在2012年至2015年3個學年，再增加港大和中大兩所醫學院的醫科生名額。
作者: ha8mo 時間: 11-4-16 23:02
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