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作者: csonliuson2000 時間: 10-12-8 15:46 標題: 男拔 Vs 林護

如果你有得揀, 你會揀邊間 ???

作者: csonliuson2000 時間: 10-12-8 15:50 標題: 男拔 Vs 林護

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作者: BestHKMother 時間: 10-12-8 21:53

男拔 ! 不過要交學費 !

作者: ANChan59 時間: 10-12-13 13:04

If really have a seat, $$$ not an issue.....

Both are good schools, in terms of academic results and achievements, they are comparable as some DBS boys are not good in studying, so even average HKCEE exam results not very attractive among elite schools like DGS and SPCC. But the top boys generally more all-rounded and their exam results even better than LW.

In terms of non-academic achievements like music and sports, DBS wins LW miles away.

DBS boys more independent, presentable and high self-confidence. Their brotherhood, network and DBS tradition are phenomenonal. E.g. in the University Day, more than 50+ old boys from different countries and universities come back to share their admission experience and university life with their juniors.

[ 本帖最後由 ANChan59 於 10-12-13 13:07 編輯 ]

作者: csonliuson2000 時間: 10-12-13 13:24 標題: 回復 1# ANChan59 的帖子

AnChan59

Thanks for your input.

Are you DBS old boy or did you son studied DBS ?

作者: ANChan59 時間: 10-12-13 13:44

原帖由 csonliuson2000 於 10-12-13 13:24 發表
AnChan59

Thanks for your input.

Are you DBS old boy or did you son studied DBS ?

My son is in DBS.

I also mention some weaknesses of DBS.
1. In terms of teaching, I guess LW may be better than DBS. No matter teachers are good or bad in teaching, some boys in DBS have tutors follow their studies. Not every kid in DBS needs tuition.

2. As DBS is in MK, the boys are 1-2 years more mature and or street-smart compared with other boys in other districts, this may be weakness or strength.

3. They are too liberal in the school, cultivate their boys more agressive and arrogant. They are allowed to challenge perfects, teachers and even principal with grounds. Sometimes, they embrassed external speakers who make speeches in their assembly.

[ 本帖最後由 ANChan59 於 10-12-15 23:02 編輯 ]

作者: csonliuson2000 時間: 10-12-13 17:09

AnChan 59.
多謝你的意見.
我兒子在DBSPD 就讀. 基於一條龍. 並设有担心升到中學DBS. 但我兒生個子矮小, 常在校被蝦. 老師不管.學校根本不理, 所以產生離開念頭.
全家常常感到不快, 不是每個人都適合讀名校 !
是真實個按, 任人都可信, 但請勿ATTACK 我.

作者: thomas08 時間: 10-12-13 17:53 標題: 回復 1# csonliuson2000 的帖子

林護好，夠進取！
其實所謂名校，不是想像中咁好架炸！男拔我有朋友在那裡教，亦有人在那讀，都不約而同叫我找些進取的学校好D

[ 本帖最後由 thomas08 於 10-12-13 18:02 編輯 ]

作者: ANChan59 時間: 10-12-13 18:59 標題: 回復 7# csonliuson2000 的帖子

In your case, you should complain to the headteacher in primary school and or above like Terrence Chang.

Also, understand the reason on top of physical size of your boy, any more reason?

Why I say so?

My son's EQ in the past was extremely low (He is not from DBSPD), anything happened he cried. Other boys used that as his hot button, made him cry was their fun time. After understand the real cause, just addressed his EQ issue, no more problem.

Your son may not the same case, just exchange ideas.

[ 本帖最後由 ANChan59 於 10-12-13 19:58 編輯 ]

作者: ANChan59 時間: 10-12-13 19:05

原帖由 thomas08 於 10-12-13 17:53 發表
林護好，夠進取！
其實所謂名校，不是想像中咁好架炸！男拔我有朋友在那裡教，亦有人在那讀，都不約而同叫我找些進取的学校好D

"夠進取" What it means??
"不是想像中咁好架炸！" What's the shortcomings? I want to know the expectation gaps.
Did your boy study in DBSDP and changed to LW? What's the outcome? Glad to know you can find a school fit his style, not every kid fit elite school.

作者: csonliuson2000 時間: 10-12-14 09:42

AnChan59,

其中一個原因就係好多小孩( 不是一、两個 ), 常常喜愛"扇"動別人來蝦我兒. 我親眼見. 我常感到自由是好, 但如學校一D紀律都無就係問題 !

我聽講優才幾好但我離校很遠,
請各家長對於優才發表意見.走去優才,留
DBS ?
我好担到中學情況會更差.

作者: goodmum97 時間: 10-12-14 12:12 標題: 回覆 1# csonliuson2000 的文章

Hi, csonliuson2000,

I agree with ANChan59's comments and do feel that you should talk to your son's class teacher or even the headmistress seriously and find out the real cause.

My son is studying in DBS. He is not from DBSPD but most of his classmates are. I find them nice, polite and helpful. They are academically very good as well.

作者: csonliuson2000 時間: 10-12-14 13:08

Goodmum97,

Glad to learn that some boys in DGS are polite and helpful. No doubt that boys are smart and the results in lessons are good.

My concern is still the disciplines !

作者: ANChan59 時間: 10-12-14 13:28 標題: 回覆 11# csonliuson2000 的文章

Per your comment and observation, you may not know your son's behaviour when you are not there.

I am not pin point your son may have some problem you don't know, give up the chance too soon may force him to be a loser and affect his self-esteem in medium term.

My son also shared with me that If he has one area (Academic, sports or music) is best of the best, he will be fine.

作者: kswiss 時間: 10-12-14 14:09

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作者: artroboy 時間: 10-12-15 15:15

你所講既DBS 係津小 or 直小?

原帖由 csonliuson2000 於 10-12-13 17:09 發表
AnChan 59.
多謝你的意見.
我兒子在DBSPD 就讀. 基於一條龍. 並设有担心升到中學DBS. 但我兒生個子矮小, 常在校被蝦. 老師不管.學校根本不理, 所以產生離開念頭.
全家常常感到不快, 不是每個人都適合讀名校 !
是真實 ...

作者: ANChan59 時間: 10-12-15 16:11

原帖由 artroboy 於 10-12-15 15:15 發表
你所講既DBS 係津小 or 直小?

DPS 小拔 (拔萃小學) - SS
DBSPD 拔小 (拔萃男書院小學部) - DSS

作者: artroboy 時間: 10-12-15 17:16

如果樓主係講緊DBSPD, 咁希望可以考慮清楚, 放棄一間咁全面, 咁好既學校係要做事先的衡量和評估. 校園係一個小社會, 當中既人際關係亦係小朋友在離開父母的懷抱後和踏足社會前的一個重要課程, 家長需要嘗試放手比佢地自己處理, 為什麼老師唔理呢? 會唔會佢地都係想比佢地自己處理.
我以前讀女校, d 女仔小圈子行為更討厭, 又無厘頭咁玩針對. 有時自己都唔知衰乜. 我咪一樣自己解决到.
我地家長要做一個輔導角色, 而唔係保護角色. 不斷用逃避既方法, 只會令佢將來更不會面對任何困難.
當然問題己經去到很嚴重另計. 自己再諗清楚吧.

[ 本帖最後由 artroboy 於 10-12-15 17:17 編輯 ]

作者: csonliuson2000 時間: 10-12-15 22:45

Astroboy,

"我以前讀女校, d 女仔小圈子行為更討厭, 又無厘頭咁玩針對. 有時自己都唔知衰乜".

I certainly agree with the above statement. I understand that a shool is a small society. He has to face it himself. Let's him handle it. Tell you all truely I have faced this problem for several years NOT the first year. Every year I hope it would be better this year but the fact is NOT. So it bother me SEVERAL YEARS.

Agree DBSPD has a good reputation. I seldom read any comments. ( No matter good or bad from parents in DBSPD ) True reasons may be most of them find it good, the one who does not match has left already. Seldom people like me still thinking for several years !

作者: ANChan59 時間: 10-12-15 23:12

I understand your struggles for many years.

Pls ask your boy the following foundamental questions:

1. Do you like the school?
2. Do you want a change?

My son sometimes also complained about the travelling every day, too much homework in Pre-IB, classmates stole his phones, notes, books etc.....

I asked him Q1 & Q2, his answer was "Yes" and "No" respectively, as a father, I don't bother much. If not, we will do something together, like change to other school, withdraw from the elite school is not an issue for me.

[ 本帖最後由 ANChan59 於 10-12-16 15:35 編輯 ]

作者: catcatmom 時間: 10-12-16 00:30

我有個街坊個仔, 小二轉入了喇小, 個男仔本來好頑劣, 係公園拉個小BB下來, 自己坐上個秋千, 跟住比亞媽大罵. 我個仔同佢係好好朋友, 但入了喇小後, 個男仔竟然成個人正經了, 乖了很多. 我見過多次佢地學生行為都唔多好, 聽聞中學生會好些.

不過後來亞仔同我講, 個男仔說:喇小好多男仔行為好差(可能男校既原因, 學生人數又多.), 蝦蝦霸霸, 有$既同學欺負無$既同學喎! 佢自己都比人蝦, 可能0甘樣乖了很多.

原帖由 csonliuson2000 於 10-12-13 17:09 發表
AnChan 59.
多謝你的意見.
我兒子在DBSPD 就讀. 基於一條龍. 並设有担心升到中學DBS. 但我兒生個子矮小, 常在校被蝦. 老師不管.學校根本不理, 所以產生離開念頭.
全家常常感到不快, 不是每個人都適合讀名校 !
是真實 ...

[ 本帖最後由 catcatmom 於 10-12-16 00:34 編輯 ]

作者: artroboy 時間: 10-12-16 12:53

你嘗試用AnChan 既方法問吓仔仔, 如果佢既答案係否定及想離校, 每天都不想上學, 又無另一方法去解决的話. 咁你要認真地考慮幫佢轉校. 千祈唔好睇輕校園欺凌對小朋友成長背後的影響, 特別是長時期的. 名校固然係好, 但一所適合及提供愉快學習環境的學校對小朋友是更為重要. 不但可重拾回自信, 成績亦會上升及愛學習.
我當年 P. 3被一班(隔離班)自以為又靚又似公主既同學玩針對, 事源係我整穿咗個頭要紗布包住一個禮拜, 比班公主話我個頭生"棘厘"

, 跟住次次一見我就由街尾喊到街頭.

. 足足喊咗 3 年

. 其他班 d 小朋友都

. 真係成班都chi chi 地.
好彩我個班都仲有幾個老死陪我, 但果幾年既感覺真係好難受. 好怕放小息時間. 為免再有其他無厘頭既針對發生, 我嘗試令自己更强, 令自己變成令人喜愛的同學. 上到中學, 果班公主都有主動撩返我玩.

但果幾年既陰影始終都仲有 d d , 每次諗返都覺慘.

唯一好處係我變得比常人更喜歡鋤強扶弱, but 最慘係我依家幾廿歲仲成日頂撞 Boss...維謢下屬..

所以我就黎要比人炒 ga la.

講返正經野, 如果仔仔返學真係好 down, 就忠於自己既諗法 la, 無話一定係名校先有前途既. 條條大路通羅馬, add oil~!!

原帖由 csonliuson2000 於 10-12-15 22:45 發表
Astroboy,

"我以前讀女校, d 女仔小圈子行為更討厭, 又無厘頭咁玩針對. 有時自己都唔知衰乜".

I certainly agree with the above statement. I understand that a shool is a small society. He has to face it hi ...

[ 本帖最後由 artroboy 於 10-12-16 13:01 編輯 ]

作者: SmallTungmama 時間: 10-12-17 13:48

你個 case同我朋友差不多, 結果他在升中時轉了校. 幸好他成績出眾, 很多學校也收他.

原帖由 csonliuson2000 於 10-12-13 17:09 發表
AnChan 59.
多謝你的意見.
我兒子在DBSPD 就讀. 基於一條龍. 並设有担心升到中學DBS. 但我兒生個子矮小, 常在校被蝦. 老師不管.學校根本不理, 所以產生離開念頭.
全家常常感到不快, 不是每個人都適合讀名校 !
是真實 ...

作者: mayc 時間: 10-12-17 16:07

聽講喇小有一位名列前茅的學生選擇升林護不升自己中學,而我囝也有一位同學不升一條龍的中學去了林護!
我認識幾個DBS的學生,無論是名列前茅或是成績平平的,都是科科都補習!與其又要交學費,又要比補習費,不如慳返D學費!

原帖由 SmallTungmama 於 10-12-17 13:48 發表
你個 case同我朋友差不多, 結果他在升中時轉了校. 幸好他成績出眾, 很多學校也收他.

[ 本帖最後由 mayc 於 10-12-17 16:21 編輯 ]

作者: ANChan59 時間: 10-12-18 21:01

原帖由 mayc 於 10-12-17 16:07 發表
聽講喇小有一位名列前茅的學生選擇升林護不升自己中學,而我囝也有一位同學不升一條龍的中學去了林護!
我認識幾個DBS的學生,無論是名列前茅或是成績平平的,都是科科都補習!與其又要交學費,又要比補習費,不如慳返D學費 ...

What's their names and which classes? What's the sample size?

Just hearsays again

作者: goodmum97 時間: 10-12-18 22:23

原帖由 mayc 於 10-12-17 16:07 發表
聽講喇小有一位名列前茅的學生選擇升林護不升自己中學,而我囝也有一位同學不升一條龍的中學去了林護!
我認識幾個DBS的學生,無論是名列前茅或是成績平平的,都是科科都補習!與其又要交學費,又要比補習費,不如慳返D學費 ...

My kid is studying in the elite class in DBS. He does not have any private tuition class. His classmates are all very intelligent and diligent. May be birds of the same feather flock together. He studies very hard by himself and he is among the top 20 in the whole form. As far as I know, there are only a few of his classmates who have some tutorial classes (normally English) outside the school.

作者: ANChan59 時間: 10-12-18 22:56 標題: 回覆 26# goodmum97 的文章

In this forum, so many hearsays without any evidence.

Don't be upset.

I hate to say that a few parents or informant's hearsays on elite schools, because of jealous.

作者: mayc 時間: 10-12-20 10:00

可能只是我認識的朋友是這樣,所以如果有冒犯貴校,請原諒!不過如果小朋友讀了六年都不開心,那就不應只留戀名校個名而繼續不開心下去!始終不是每一個小朋友都適合,而其實由喇小轉讀林護並不可笑,所謂聽講也是我朋友認識的,而我只也是想說林護確是一間不錯的學校!

[ 本帖最後由 mayc 於 10-12-20 10:15 編輯 ]

作者: ElizabethLAI 時間: 10-12-20 10:49

原帖由 ANChan59 於 10-12-18 22:56 發表
I hate to say that a few parents or informant's hearsays on elite schools, because of jealous.

Really ? You've got proof ?
I think no matter which school in Hong Kong (even those people think they are the best of the best), you will hear good or bad comments from different people, it's quite natural because every person has their own preference and values treasured. We must admit there is no perfect school in reality, but if I am satisfied with it, I don't need to be bothered by any neutral comments or even attack from others.

作者: catcatmom 時間: 10-12-20 11:57

讀完喇小中學轉了去林護都好正常, 我同意那位樓主說, 林護比喇中一d都唔弱! 如果講公開考試平均成績, 喇中輸比林護. 從朋友口中聽番來, 就唔可以post出來嗎? 只要真便可以, 信與唔信各網人自己去判決吧!
讀完喇小轉林護, 都要好top至收!

原帖由 ANChan59 於 10-12-18 21:01 發表

What's their names and which classes? What's the sample size?
Just hearsays again

[ 本帖最後由 catcatmom 於 10-12-20 12:00 編輯 ]

作者: ANChan59 時間: 10-12-20 12:34

原帖由 mayc 於 10-12-20 10:00 發表
可能只是我認識的朋友是這樣,所以如果有冒犯貴校,請原諒!不過如果小朋友讀了六年都不開心,那就不應只留戀名校個名而繼續不開心下去!始終不是每一個小朋友都適合,而其實由喇小轉讀林護並不可笑,所謂聽講也是我朋友認 ...

I didn't say anything against LW, in my previous post I did say LW is a good school academically.

My point is some parents just quoted one or two samples from LS primary school and DBSPD changed to LW and concluded LW is better than LSC & DBSPD.

Back to the original post, I just offer suggestions to the post initiator, he or she needs to address the boy's problem, his or her concerns may not the real cause. He or she has the free will to pick whatever school is best fit the boy's interest.

作者: ANChan59 時間: 10-12-20 12:37

原帖由 ElizabethLAI 於 10-12-20 10:49 發表

Really ? You've got proof ?
I think no matter which school in Hong Kong (even those people think they are the best of the best), you will hear good or bad comments from different people, it's quit ...

I agreed with what you said.

I only teased some parents just randomly quoted something and jump into conclusion.........

作者: ha8mo 時間: 11-1-6 16:23

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作者: elbar 時間: 11-1-6 22:23

原帖由 csonliuson2000 於 10-12-8 15:46 發表
如果你有得揀, 你會揀邊間 ???

直資會揀 SPCC & DBS

自行會揀 1. QC 2. LW / TST

[ 本帖最後由 elbar 於 11-1-8 17:07 編輯 ]

作者: meddlesome 時間: 11-1-7 12:14

Hi Parents,

I agreed to what ANchan said for DBS. He or she has definately pin-pointed the difference between DBS and LW.

My sons have been studied in DBSPD and DBS, too.

For DBSPD, it's a happy school but also with invisible pressure, too. Their academic requirement is high, but teaching is so, so (that's what I though). But generally speaking, students are very happy. Of course, there are cases of bullying at school if your son are not strong enough. I can tell, all boys no matter rich or not, they are very self-esteemed (or say arrogant). It's not being trained from school, but because they aware of themself being a elite out of the others. So if you are a bit weak (relatively speaking) at school, you will suffer.
But this kind of sitatuation might foster the weak to push up himself. This can be a kind of driving force.
It can be also a force to led boys feel uncomfortable if he can not break thru himself.

For DBS, parents are not happy because of the academic result is not really good. But for the boys, they are tremendous happy. Boys enjoy school, they have everything to play and explore themselves. Boys from DBS are very independent and agressive. DBS is different from any traditional schools which aiming on study only. Students are all-rounded. Don't put too much pressure on the academic aspects, you and your son will feel happy. The liberal atmosphere around the school will make you feel as if you are in an university. It's an university style secondary school.
All boys are clever and outstanding. Just some of them are not started yet to study (or say lazy). But competition in school in all aspects are still very keen.

If you have chance to admit into DBS, please go and try. It's an experience that outside school can not achieved. I am not hard sell, but why not try and you will feel yourself. Remember I am not emphasis on their academic result. But what your son get will be another side of his life.

Meddlesome

作者: elbar 時間: 11-1-8 17:07

原帖由 thomas08 於 10-12-13 17:53 發表
林護好，夠進取！
其實所謂名校，不是想像中咁好架炸！男拔我有朋友在那裡教，亦有人在那讀，都不約而同叫我找些進取的学校好D

曾肇添進取性都很強

作者: ADALAM. 時間: 11-1-9 08:35

短變長
缺點其實又可以係優點

所有不合理
變得合理化

難怪李生被人封為超人(不過唔知道係唔係正義果隻

)

叻代表一切

作者: meddlesome 時間: 11-1-17 16:35

It's true. A coin has 2 sides. Everything have it's advantages and disadvantages that originated from the same point.

There are nothing prefect. There are no prefect schools as well.

Parents choose school will have to consider their advantages and disadvantages and weight them.

Meddlesome

作者: ADALAM. 時間: 11-1-17 21:27 標題: 回復 38#

無家教都可以係有兩面

如果窮人無家教會比人暗笑或歧視

佐如果屋企有錢受過高等教育而無家教就可以係正面GE

而且可以高調理直氣壯咁講出黎

.......

呀!! 記得有句話叫做

笑咩不笑咩

到底咩代表咩呢?:loveliness:

[ 本帖最後由 ADALAM. 於 11-1-17 22:32 編輯 ]

作者: Jjai 時間: 11-2-13 18:07

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作者: 嘩 時間: 11-2-18 02:24

呢個問題曾經都困擾過我,最終經過家人分析後選了LW. 講名氣一定唔夠響;講運動如果係小朋友既強項就唔應該選;講資源同配套就一定唔及收費學校.為乜我地會選? 成績,學生品行,師資,同小朋友性格都係我地考慮因素.

作者: Jjai 時間: 11-2-18 14:28 標題: 回復 41# 嘩的帖子

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作者: kenfu 時間: 11-2-19 10:17 標題: 回覆 41# 嘩的文章

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作者: 嘩 時間: 11-2-22 01:30 標題: 回覆 2# Jjai 的文章

我是知道兩間都收取後,才作出決定的.
我希望小朋友能夠在HK讀大學,所以要選一間較進取些,同對他們要有要求既學校,因為小朋友自律性是很弱的.
(暫時學校沒有給予任何壓力,亦沒有外間所講得咁恐怖/辛苦,佢都幾清閒架)

作者: tongyimtong 時間: 11-2-22 20:34

csonliuson2000 :

LW 一樣會有DBS的欺凌事件。不要以為它是草根學校。LW的老師亦有「白鴿眼」的人。DBS是頂級名校，不要輕言放棄。我認為ANchan59的肺腑之言您要聽。

作者: Jjai 時間: 11-2-22 21:23 標題: 回覆 44# 嘩的文章

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作者: 嘩 時間: 11-2-23 13:39 標題: 回覆 1# Jjai 的文章

LW是在中一派位公佈時才知,而DBS是參加7月份筆試的,當天是下午考試,第二日早上就收到通知被取錄.所以兩間選取只得一天時間,因為DBS只給予我一天考慮.

作者: homama 時間: 11-2-23 23:58 標題: 回覆 1# 嘩的文章

我朋友嘅情況剛剛同你相反。

佢囝囝被派往港島位於天后的一所著名男校，但囝囝仍不死心，佢好鐘意DBS，放榜即到DBS考筆試，因他曾考DBS落選，佢成績好好，是地區名小學全級之冠，但沒有音樂或體育獎，同級考第三DBS三月收咗，因為佢音樂叻，(聽講DBS有2nd interview, 考audition 或 sports trial)。朋友囝囝終於筆試成功，被DBS收咗，讀得好開心。

作者: Jjai 時間: 11-2-24 21:34 標題: 回覆 47# 嘩的文章

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作者: 嘩 時間: 11-2-25 00:45

原帖由 homama 於 11-2-23 23:58 發表
我朋友嘅情況剛剛同你相反。

佢囝囝被派往港島位於天后的一所著名男校，但囝囝仍不死心，佢好鐘意DBS，放榜即到DBS考筆試，因他曾考DBS落選，佢成績好好，是地區名小學全級之冠，但沒有音樂或體育獎，同級考第三DBS三月收咗，因為佢 ...

[天后的一所著名男校]是很多家長心儀目標, 好似有點可惜喎!

作者: 嘩 時間: 11-2-25 01:55 標題: 回覆 2# Jjai 的文章

DBS都係我地所喜愛的一所中學,所以咪試試囉. 小朋友在毫無壓力下去考,因有LW在手,心態都有所不同. 學校生活暫時都沒有問題.

作者: mayc 時間: 11-2-25 12:58

而且仲係唔洗交3,4萬學費添!

原帖由嘩於 11-2-25 00:45 發表

[天后的一所著名男校]是很多家長心儀目標, 好似有點可惜喎!

作者: homama 時間: 11-2-25 14:57 標題: 回覆 1# mayc 的文章

朋友話物超所值。最重要喺揾到一間適合仔仔嘅學校。佢對DBS評價好高，仔仔入讀後無論在自信心、語文程度、待人接物等各方面都有好大增長。

歡迎光臨教育王國 (/)