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作者: AhBoMama 時間: 10-11-1 17:26 標題: 嘉諾撒聖心幼稚園

有form download 喇....
http://www.shck.edu.hk/

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作者: mykate 時間: 10-11-1 17:34

Thanks~!!

作者: EggEgg08 時間: 10-11-1 18:13

12月先交實在有排

作者: w_y 時間: 10-11-1 18:16

點止, 仲要1月至IN 2 月至放榜, 真係少D 耐性都唔得. 你話如果無一鳥在手, 真係有排驚啦.

作者: vlui55 時間: 10-11-1 23:00

you are rite w_y

作者: chloema622 時間: 10-11-1 23:19

原帖由 w_y 於 10-11-1 18:16 發表
點止, 仲要1月至IN 2 月至放榜, 真係少D 耐性都唔得. 你話如果無一鳥在手, 真係有排驚啦.

仲有聖士提反女子都係好遲。如我有一間收咗，我都會試下in下，反而壓力無咁大！小朋友大多2個月都差好遠，可能in得仲好！

作者: w_y 時間: 10-11-1 23:54

可是手上每一隻鳥都盛惠至少六百元!

作者: BabyHilary 時間: 10-11-1 23:59

12月3或4日交表, 1月8日面試,
2月15日放榜...真係好漫長嘅等待!
不過spk等得更耐, 近2年都係1月中面試, 3月中放榜!

原帖由 AhBoMama 於 10-11-1 17:26 發表
有form download 喇....
http://www.shck.edu.hk/

請家長於以下指定兩天親身到本園遞交申請：
2010年12月3日（星期五）8:30am - 11:00am
2010年12月4日（星期六）8:30am - 11:00am
*不需要攜帶小朋友 ...

作者: AhBoMama 時間: 10-11-2 09:54

原帖由 BabyHilary 於 10-11-1 23:59 發表
12月3或4日交表, 1月8日面試,
2月15日放榜...真係好漫長嘅等待!
不過spk等得更耐, 近2年都係1月中面試, 3月中放榜!

"真係好漫長嘅等待!" ...說得無錯，不過無辨法啦...
由等開始有form download...等排隊交表...等interview...等result...作為家長都要習慣"等"，當訓練大家的耐性啦....

各位家長，加油呀!! :D

作者: qqbabe 時間: 10-11-2 10:49

遲有遲好, 起碼唔會好似而家10/11月見有d家長一日要in3間, 而且小朋友大個d表現相對穩定d, 我隻野到時都3歲喇! 而且大家1月前都有offer喺手, 唔會太過緊張.

作者: brrbaby2007 時間: 10-11-2 11:01

原帖由 qqbabe 於 10-11-2 10:49 發表
遲有遲好, 起碼唔會好似而家10/11月見有d家長一日要in3間, 而且小朋友大個d表現相對穩定d, 我隻野到時都3歲喇! 而且大家1月前都有offer喺手, 唔會太過緊張. ...

我驚到時trouble 3重衰過而家呀

作者: Yan-YanMama 時間: 10-11-2 11:11

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作者: qqbabe 時間: 10-11-2 11:21

原帖由 brrbaby2007 於 10-11-2 11:01 發表

我驚到時trouble 3重衰過而家呀

小朋友除左1歲前未識講野時係最少trouble, 我相信越大越多麻煩, 唯有而家開始薰陶佢地睇環境識時務, 咩野時間當做mud野事, 盡力而為la.

作者: wootaitai 時間: 10-11-2 11:23

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作者: qqbabe 時間: 10-11-2 11:25

原帖由 Yan-YanMama 於 10-11-2 11:11 發表
請問知唔知SH有無校車去tseung kwan o.
想讀SH, 但無校車就麻煩啦.

有九龍東既保母車, 校車就好似冇過海, 你可以去學校專區睇下, 不過坐保母車分分鐘成粒幾鐘.

作者: AhBoMama 時間: 10-11-2 11:33

原帖由 Yan-YanMama 於 10-11-2 11:11 發表
請問知唔知SH有無校車去tseung kwan o.
想讀SH, 但無校車就麻煩啦.

應該有，因為我朋友的囡囡由K1讀到今年升聖心小一，每天都是坐校車由TKO去堅道....

作者: bbexpect 時間: 10-11-2 12:10

請問呢間幼稚園係唔係一條龍學校?

TKS!

作者: yamiyami 時間: 10-11-2 13:48

原帖由 qqbabe 於 10-11-2 11:25 發表

有九龍東既保母車, 校車就好似冇過海, 你可以去學校專區睇下, 不過坐保母車分分鐘成粒幾鐘.

唔使一粒鐘, 半個鐘左右就到啦....

作者: qqbabe 時間: 10-11-2 13:58

原帖由 yamiyami 於 10-11-2 13:48 發表

唔使一粒鐘, 半個鐘左右就到啦....

咁好快wor! 我見其他學校過海保母車要好耐, 驚小朋友要忍小便... 請問如果香港站上校車, 要幾耐番到學校?

作者: iantsang 時間: 10-11-2 15:13

香港站上校車 <== it is the final stop on that route before reaching the kindergarten so just at max 10 mins.

作者: w_y 時間: 10-11-2 16:02

小一選校果邊有人話已經唔係直上私小, 有無人知係咪真?

作者: littlecook 時間: 10-11-2 16:16

我都想知!
早几日睇返本早几年既小學指南,裏面提到SH遲D會轉全日,到時津校(下午校)會取締私小(上午校)!唔知真唔真!
究竟依家情況係點?

原帖由 w_y 於 10-11-2 16:02 發表
小一選校果邊有人話已經唔係直上私小, 有無人知係咪真?

作者: iantsang 時間: 10-11-2 23:52

I was hoping someone else would reply so I can keep my mouth shut on this question.

Anyway, here's the situation.  Once every 6 years this situation would arise: SHCK K3 will have total 8 classes of students (240 students) applying for P1 while SHCSPS (i.e. 私小) will only have 3 classes (around 108 seats).  Mathematically the picture is clear where direct promotion(直上) to SHCSPS would be a bit difficult to take place if most of the girls apply now looking for offers immediately.

However, SHCS (gov't aided PM section) has become a popular choice to SHCK parents in recent years so it will certainly attracts many students too.

Moreover, other students will head to some popular DSS/private schools and for those who prefer whole-day primary, many students will be allocated to schools like Marymount, St. Mary's, St. Francis', etc.

So, for other years while there are only 6 classes of K3 applying for 3 classes of P1 in SHCSPS, with approximately 155-160 girls for 108 places, direct promotion is more likely.  But for this once every 6 years situation, the handling would become more difficult.

Note: Actually once every 3 years, SHCK will have 8 classes (the coming 2011 K1 applications).  But for the other chance this happen, SHCSPS would have 4 classes for 144 students.

原帖由 w_y 於 10-11-2 16:02 發表
小一選校果邊有人話已經唔係直上私小, 有無人知係咪真?

作者: iantsang 時間: 10-11-2 23:56

取締??? How can that be possible? The campus itself belongs to the Canossian Missions so it is definitely save for the private section.

SHCS (津校) will have to become whole day at some point...... but the requirement is if they can agree with a new campus location so SHCS can move to and operate under whole day. But it is very difficult as SHCS is one of few primary which have 5 classes a year (total 30 classrooms at least). So, will need to keep waiting.

原帖由 littlecook 於 10-11-2 16:16 發表
我都想知!
早几日睇返本早几年既小學指南,裏面提到SH遲D會轉全日,到時津校(下午校)會取締私小(上午校)!唔知真唔真!
究竟依家情況係點?

作者: EggEgg08 時間: 10-11-3 08:30

Sorry Ian, do u mean the 2011 k1 students will face even more serious competition for P1 coz there are 8 classes? Thanks.

作者: iantsang 時間: 10-11-3 09:02

The current K3 is already the one with the least chances (I won't use the word "compete" in our environment). They have 8 classes (240 students) for 3 classes (108 seats) in P1.

For the coming K1, by the time they apply for P1, they also have 8 classes, which is the same, but there will be 4 classes (144 seats) for them in P1. So, that's more chances.

原帖由 EggEgg08 於 10-11-3 08:30 發表
Sorry Ian, do u mean the 2011 k1 students will face even more serious competition for P1 coz there are 8 classes? Thanks.

作者: brrbaby2007 時間: 10-11-3 09:24

即係冇得保證直上了

作者: w_y 時間: 10-11-3 09:59

明白了.
咁即係更加唔好諗住將來有機會好似嘉諾撒咁收返幾個男仔啦

作者: EggEgg08 時間: 10-11-3 10:23

O...thanks a lot ian

作者: Fishlo 時間: 10-11-3 13:32

qqbabe: 初頭我都以為大個啲去IN會穩定啲，呢樣野可係我一相情願諗咋，吾APPLY 落我個女到！佢而家兩歲８個月，呢個月情緒勁差及波動，　攪到有啲INTERVIEW 都吾敢去！而家有啲KINDER 係出年１或２月IN, 希望我個女到時情緒定番啦！

原帖由 qqbabe 於 10-11-2 10:49 發表
遲有遲好, 起碼唔會好似而家10/11月見有d家長一日要in3間, 而且小朋友大個d表現相對穩定d, 我隻野到時都3歲喇! 而且大家1月前都有offer喺手, 唔會太過緊張. ...

作者: ck07hk 時間: 10-11-3 14:56

如果無得直升.. 咁都有d 危險喎... 幼稚園教既野又唔夠深... 出去揾小學未必咁理想...

作者: iantsang 時間: 10-11-3 17:02

Well, this is a bit tricky. It is a matter on how you think a guarantee would mean.

If we assume every single student target ONLY the private section, then the number speaks for itself.

But as SH parent, the key lies on how much faith you have on the value system, which involve a two-way trust.

The changes on the admission process in recent years reflects the choices of some parents, which provide them the freedom to look for other primary schools which they desire (for example, the gov't aided section of Sacred Heart is a popular choice where parents can enjoy 6 years of free education). And for those who are sincere to stay, the door is always open.

I guess I would leave it like this.

Ian

原帖由 brrbaby2007 於 10-11-3 09:24 發表
即係冇得保證直上了

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作者: qqbabe 時間: 10-11-3 18:48

原帖由 Fishlo 於 10-11-3 13:32 發表
qqbabe: 初頭我都以為大個啲去IN會穩定啲，呢樣野可係我一相情願諗咋，吾APPLY 落我個女到！佢而家兩歲８個月，呢個月情緒勁差及波動，　攪到有啲INTERVIEW 都吾敢去！而家有啲KINDER 係出年１或２月IN, 希望我個女到時情緒定番啦！

...

點解呢個月有情緒變化, 係未番學遇到唔開心既事? 我朋友既女女本身自理同表現一直好好, 但番n1開始就成日話唔開心, 日日喊同變得扭計, 我諗要找出問題對症下藥.

作者: qqbabe 時間: 10-11-3 18:57

我自己覺得一間傳統名校, 可以大機會上私小, 又可以博下晝津校, 仲可以參加大抽獎, 如果佢收我個女已經好感恩. 暫時知道真係100%好似得真光同培正, 不過我記得版主講過如果k3學生係一心一意, 其實大部份都可以直升(上or下午班).

作者: Pertra 時間: 10-11-3 20:37

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作者: 珈珈mama 時間: 10-11-3 23:51

吾保證升私小, 的而且確另人非常擔心, 不過, 還要看看今年K3的學生有多少連P1PM都考吾返....如果數量太多, 真的要為K1女兒想想出路~~~女兒K1開學2個月, 我起初對聖心感覺不是太好, 學校與家長沒有渠道溝通(很多KG家長可以透過手冊跟老師溝通), 學校的通告有點混亂等....但現在才覺得這是一間實而不華的學校~~很多事情不像其他學校般, 固意做給家長看...而且我感覺到老師真的很用心對小朋友...當然很多東西我還在觀察中..不過, 我相信當初沒選擇錯誤...很開心女兒能在這間不商業, 而且用心的學校讀書...

作者: iantsang 時間: 10-11-4 00:27

Hi wootaitai,

Finallly someone would ask me this in public!  (Normally I need to keep replying thru PM so you are saving me!)

I totally respect and aware of a typical Paulinian and I believe many parents would love such perfect and ideal characteristics build up on their daughters.  I hope my comments wouldn't create any arguments so please accept my advance apology to the Paulinians' families if it offends you.  I truly believe it is a personal choice so my preferences don't lead to any right or wrong at all.

And this is actually why I prefer Sacred Heart personally.  As I believe my daughters should be who they are, rather than how we want them to be (the ideal model).  For me, education is to provide guidiance for children while being able to allow more diversity and building on their own characterisitcs.  So for a traditional school to allow such freedom, I personally respect this very much.  As it is much more difficult to let the students maintain such wide differences.

As I have been asked many times what type of children this kindergarten likes particularly.  I am sorry but I really don't have a clear answer.  For example there was a discussion before where some parents feel traditional kindergarten would normally prefer big Bs.  However, what I can find is there is really a well balanced of children born in different months, from big to small Bs.  You can easily split them by half if you divide them by the middle of the year.  At the same time, we have from very active kids to very quiet kids.  However, they are all very attentive in class, very willing to listen to the teachers and all find going to school a wonderful thing in their life.  The children learn how to love others and care about others.  Moral education is top priority here with excellent Catholic studies to support it, along with many other things (balanced diets, healthy living, environment protection, etc.).

At the end, as I always say, there are no perfect schools in the world (or at least I am too naive to know there is one).  There will only be ideal school for each child and each family.

Hope it helps!

Ian

原帖由 wootaitai 於 10-11-3 22:37 發表
iantsang 想請教其實你覺得SHCK優點在那裡（升小因素除外）

quote from another discussion on the "model" SPK girl:

"斯文有禮，遵守規矩，但又活潑好動，多思考，勇敢面對問題，這亦是3間SPN/K的教導及工勞"

what in yo ...

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作者: sheffield 時間: 10-11-4 09:51

我之前跟ian說過我喜歡聖為是因為它"實而不華"，正正就是你說的4個字！這也是我想我孩子能做到的。

講番你個問題，其實你都可以寫手冊同老師溝通格！如平日冇手冊，咪寫字條比老師囉！佢地日日都睇通信袋。如急事就打電話(個佢地好忙，我都唔好意思打，但都有打過…)，如唔急就寫字仔，等佢地有時間或留意下亞B再覆你…唔使客氣架喎！(我代老師講嘅)

原帖由 珈珈mama 於 10-11-3 23:51 發表
吾保證升私小, 的而且確另人非常擔心, 不過, 還要看看今年K3的學生有多少連P1PM都考吾返....如果數量太多, 真的要為K1女兒想想出路~~~女兒K1開學2個月, 我起初對聖心感覺不是太好, 學校與家長沒有渠道溝通(很多KG家 ...

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作者: twinsmummy 時間: 10-11-4 10:47

Dear Sheffield and Iantsang, the current SH sounds VERY different from the one I knew when I was little (many many years ago...hahaha). Do the kids interact with their teachers actively during class or do they still sit there listening to the teachers all day long? Thanks!

作者: MM1031 時間: 10-11-4 10:48

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作者: iantsang 時間: 10-11-4 10:49

I guess I must admit that I have the same concern from my personal experience so I almost didn't apply this kindergarten originally!

However, I think 2 years ago I was determined to research really hard try not to be biased by the past. I can tell you it is not an easy thing to do but I guess I finally manage to try look at more updated information.

Anyway, concerning reading chapter books. They actually start reading them since K1 every week, certainly with the help from parents to read them together for the first few times. My daughter for example (currently K2), can recognize around one-third to half of the words on a new book. Of course this may vary as the level of difficulty of books they receive each week are quite different. Then after we read it with her, then she can read it by herself.

原帖由 wootaitai 於 10-11-4 10:02 發表
thank you, I must say I was always a bit intimidated by Sacred Heart, based on my friends who studied there (through Primary school or sec school)... pushy, strict etc, their memories seem to be not s ...

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作者: twinsmummy 時間: 10-11-4 10:53

原帖由 iantsang 於 10-11-4 10:49 發表
I guess I must admit that I have the same concern from my personal experience so I almost didn't apply this kindergarten originally!

However, I think 2 years ago I was determined to research really h ...

That's good to know Iantsang. Are the books in Chinese, English or mix? HOw's the English standard in Kindy? And PTH? Thank you.

作者: iantsang 時間: 10-11-4 10:56

I would say a bit of both? They would sit still when they should be (majority lar, I will be lying to you if I say every single kids can do it every single days!), and can be active when they are in interaction or playing.

Anyway, just my own comment.

原帖由 twinsmummy 於 10-11-4 10:47 發表
Dear Sheffield and Iantsang, the current SH sounds VERY different from the one I knew when I was little (many many years ago...hahaha). Do the kids interact with their teachers actively during class ...

作者: iantsang 時間: 10-11-4 11:00

I will need to get back to work soon so let me answer this quickly.

Books are in Chinese and English, distributed to students on alternate week (i.e. this week Chinese then next week English). Since K1 they will need to do reading report (just drawing pic) after reading each book.

Don't expect too much although there are normally either English and PTH teaching everyday by NET. But the time each day is not long (I guess around 15 mins). It depends on your expectation, for me I can accept that for a voucher receiving kindergarten, but it certainly won't match many parents' expectation nowadays if they like to be trilingual. There are more sessions on English than PTH.

原帖由 twinsmummy 於 10-11-4 10:53 發表

That's good to know Iantsang. Are the books in Chinese, English or mix? HOw's the English standard in Kindy? And PTH? Thank you.

作者: iantsang 時間: 10-11-4 11:03

There are plenty of small Bs, I know many October and November, but be honest December small Bs I am really not sure. But the point is at least they don't rule you out automatically based on the birth month.

原帖由 MM1031 於 10-11-4 10:48 發表
我個女係08年12月細B，唔知聖心收得多唔多細B？

聖心係我首選，唔知面試考咩？等我可以準備一下。

作者: twinsmummy 時間: 10-11-4 11:05

原帖由 iantsang 於 10-11-4 11:00 發表
I will need to get back to work soon so let me answer this quickly.

Books are in Chinese and English, distributed to students on alternate week (i.e. this week Chinese then next week English). Since ...

Thank you Iantsang. The info is perfect.

作者: MoJoJoJo 時間: 10-11-4 11:06

yep, i would say they teach kids to be quiet or active in the right situations. :)

原帖由 iantsang 於 10-11-4 10:56 發表
I would say a bit of both? They would sit still when they should be (majority lar, I will be lying to you if I say every single kids can do it every single days!), and can be active when they are in ...

作者: MoJoJoJo 時間: 10-11-4 11:10

indeed. in my girl's class, i see a few super big bs, but also quite a few small bs. my girl being one of the small bs too. they really base on performance and not age.

原帖由 iantsang 於 10-11-4 11:03 發表
There are plenty of small Bs, I know many October and November, but be honest December small Bs I am really not sure. But the point is at least they don't rule you out automatically based on the birt ...

作者: wootaitai 時間: 10-11-4 11:14

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作者: BabyHilary 時間: 10-11-4 11:51

我非常認同, 初初都唸住個女識講好多野,
面試唔洗擔心, 加上返左pn一段時間應該更叻!
點知佢脾氣越來越差, 講野叻但唔代表要答你,
又或者明明識答專登講錯, 真係比佢激暈...
而家唯有係祈禱, 希望到時大小姐心情好d
正正經經回答老師問題就好!

原帖由 Fishlo 於 10-11-3 13:32 發表
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作者: Belle_Piano 時間: 10-12-1 23:38

Hi Ian,
For the K3 students going into SHCSPS P1 in 2014 or after, will there be 144 seats thereafter? What I'm asking is if the number of seats will fluctuate year by year, or in a 3-year cycle. Thanks.

作者: iantsang 時間: 10-12-2 07:24

The cycle of P1 is in a 6-year cycle, due to the number of classrooms available are 20, so the current cycle pattern is 3-3-4-4-3-3 (No. of classes).

So, the next time there will be around 144 seats (4 classes) in P1 would be 2013/14 and 2014/15 entrance.

Ian

原帖由 Belle_Piano 於 10-12-1 23:38 發表
Hi Ian,
For the K3 students going into SHCSPS P1 in 2014 or after, will there be 144 seats thereafter? What I'm asking is if the number of seats will fluctuate year by year, or in a 3-year cycle. Th ...

作者: 天賜小公主 時間: 10-12-2 10:12

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作者: Tbaby 時間: 10-12-2 10:53

我們都會在金鐘坐的士去大約二十幾蚊到啦
希望幫到你祝順利 :)

原帖由 天賜小公主 於 10-12-2 10:12 發表
請問聖心媽媽, 知唔知北角56小巴總站在那裡呀? 因為明天可以開始交form啦...

作者: 天賜小公主 時間: 10-12-2 11:06

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作者: task 時間: 10-12-2 11:38

請問知不知道校車會到美孚嗎? 要幾耐?

作者: iantsang 時間: 10-12-2 12:36

The minibus terminal should be on 馬寶道 near 琴行街 (in front of 賽馬會投注處).

原帖由 天賜小公主 於 10-12-2 11:06 發表
謝謝回覆. 因為我打電話去聖心, 老師話如果住東區, 可以在北角坐56號小巴, 車程約15-20分鐘; 但唔清楚小巴站正確位置, 唔知有無聖心媽媽知道呢? 謝謝.
其實住東區, 最快的方法到聖心是什麼呢? 除了直接坐的士...
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作者: iantsang 時間: 10-12-2 12:41

School bus doesn't covered 美孚 but heard there may be nanny bus helping to pickup one student this year for the AM classes.

This is the only (one) student which I am aware of who live in that nearby area and attend SHCK. Not sure if there will be more students in the coming year but for the existing classes, this should be the only case.

原帖由 task 於 10-12-2 11:38 發表
請問知不知道校車會到美孚嗎? 要幾耐?

作者: rosannekuit 時間: 10-12-2 13:04

the minibus final stop is at "ma bo road"

作者: 天賜小公主 時間: 10-12-2 13:31

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作者: Belle_Piano 時間: 10-12-2 14:24

Thanks Ian!

原帖由 iantsang 於 10-12-2 07:24 發表
The cycle of P1 is in a 6-year cycle, due to the number of classrooms available are 20, so the current cycle pattern is 3-3-4-4-3-3 (No. of classes).

So, the next time there will be around 144 seats ...

作者: sheffield 時間: 10-12-2 14:38

also my opinion，haha!

and indeed, the class is more interactive than i expected ! my girl happily told me that she was invited to be the teacher in the english class yesterday...
on the "class observation day", i found that the kids have many opportunity to "choose" (learn to make decision). there are always choices for them to choose as long as they choose within the scope set by the teacher. they do not only do what have been arranged....

原帖由 iantsang 於 10-11-4 10:56 發表
I would say a bit of both? They would sit still when they should be (majority lar, I will be lying to you if I say every single kids can do it every single days!), and can be active when they are in ...

作者: qqbabe 時間: 10-12-2 15:53

請問聖心k3學生多唔多考其他私校或直資, 結果如何?

作者: iantsang 時間: 10-12-2 16:40

Well, depends on where you are in island east..... if MTR station is indeed nearby, then I think it is a good idea to take taxi from Admiralty. The costs is lower from there if compare to Central for sure, I think around $20+. If you actually live near North Point, then 56 is okay too since normally it will be full in North Point already.

Good luck (and me too!)

原帖由 天賜小公主 於 10-12-2 13:31 發表
謝謝你回覆, 請問住東區, 是否應該在北角坐56, 好過在金鐘坐的士呢? 謝謝.

作者: 1010sy 時間: 10-12-3 10:47

does school bus go to whampo garden?

作者: iantsang 時間: 10-12-6 23:21

No school buses go there, but there are nanny buses.

原帖由 1010sy 於 10-12-3 10:47 發表
does school bus go to whampo garden?

作者: 1010sy 時間: 10-12-7 12:21

noted with thanks

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