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作者: TungTung_daddy 時間: 10-10-13 13:33 標題: St. Paul Boy
我個仔是3月出世。很乖，班內成績也很好。但他沒有second-in。心疼！
反而，班內一些很活躍的小孩卻有。
你們情況如何？
作者: caa 時間: 10-10-13 13:39
The interview format is all about talking talking. So being well-behaved is not good enough. Well-behaved is the basic. Expressive kids have all the advantage.
I just think why can't the school accomodate different types of students and look into inner attributes of the kids? Are expressive and talkative kids necessarily better?
原帖由 TungTung_daddy 於 10-10-13 13:33 發表 
我個仔是3月出世。很乖，班內成績也很好。但他沒有second-in。心疼！
反而，班內一些很活躍的小孩卻有。
你們情況如何？
作者: milkonline2 時間: 10-10-13 13:41
Same here. One of my son's classmate is impolite and naughty can get into second interview! The teachers and other parents put too high expectation on my son. I feel a little bit frustrated. What we can do is don't think too much!!! Or knock the door if you really love that school!原帖由 TungTung_daddy 於 10-10-13 01:33 PM 發表
我個仔是3月出世。很乖，班內成績也很好。但他沒有second-in。心疼！
反而，班內一些很活躍的小孩卻有。
你們情況如何？
作者: artroboy 時間: 10-10-13 13:41
so what? 咁又點?呢個只係你個人諗法, 乖唔乖, 叻唔叻, 唔係你覺得係就係, 無人覺得自己既小朋友不如人, 個個都覺得自己細路係最好.
你覺得人地d 小朋友太活躍, 咁人地都可以認為你個小朋友太文靜...
平常心啦.
原帖由 TungTung_daddy 於 10-10-13 13:33 發表
我個仔是3月出世。很乖，班內成績也很好。但他沒有second-in。心疼！
反而，班內一些很活躍的小孩卻有。
你們情況如何？
作者: thomasha 時間: 10-10-13 13:43
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原帖由 TungTung_daddy 於 10-10-13 13:33 發表
我個仔是3月出世。很乖，班內成績也很好。但他沒有second-in。心疼！
反而，班內一些很活躍的小孩卻有。
你們情況如何？
作者: milkonline2 時間: 10-10-13 13:45
Thomas, you are excellent! 
作者: thomasha 時間: 10-10-13 13:46
Don't you think the present environment in Hong Kong favours 講就天下無敵 people?
Seriously, more expressive kids let interviewers assess their performance more easily than quiet kids. If you need a child to use 20 minutes to show his attributes, the child must utilise the 20 minutes well by keeping talking. Sorry, no time for warm-up for the quieter kids.
原帖由 caa 於 10-10-13 13:39 發表
The interview format is all about talking talking. So being well-behaved is not good enough. Well-behaved is the basic. Expressive kids have all the advantage.
I just think why can't the school acc ...
作者: thomasha 時間: 10-10-13 13:54
舉手之勞姐!
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原帖由 milkonline2 於 10-10-13 13:45 發表
Thomas, you are excellent!
作者: ChunYinMa 時間: 10-10-13 13:55
間間學校都有自己的收生標準, 佢地looking for 邊類型的小朋友只有佢地知, 沒有2nd int 不等於小朋友不叻. 有2nd int. 亦不等於佢比你小朋友叻.
無疑在這場遊戲中, 大胆, 肯說話的小朋友比較著數, 但我想運氣更加重要, 小朋友當時遇到的老師好唔好, 都會對佢的狀態有影響, 所以都係平常心罷.
原帖由 TungTung_daddy 於 10-10-13 13:33 發表
我個仔是3月出世。很乖，班內成績也很好。但他沒有second-in。心疼！
反而，班內一些很活躍的小孩卻有。
你們情況如何？
作者: caa 時間: 10-10-13 13:57
This is sad that the environment in HK becomes like this - even the educators can only look at few, if not one, attributes. If they are experienced educators who have hearts at nurturing kids, they should be able to select kids who are good not only at talking.
How can one judge a 5-year-old kid's potential based on whether he/she can recite a story?
On the one hand, people say critical thinking is important, on the other hand, kids are judged based on their short memory.
原帖由 thomasha 於 10-10-13 13:46 發表
Don't you think the present environment in Hong Kong favours 講就天下無敵 people?
Seriously, more expressive kids let interviewers assess their performance more easily than quiet kids. If you need a ...
作者: thomasha 時間: 10-10-13 14:05
yes, it is sad, but unfortunately it is a fact. Your choices are, either playing according to the rules of the game (i.e. the whole P1 admission process), or leave the system and find your own way, e.g. international schools or studying abroad.
Anyway, this school is behind my back now. 希望你可以早日收拾心情，再上征途吧!
原帖由 caa 於 10-10-13 13:57 發表
This is sad that the environment in HK becomes like this - even the educators can only look at few, if not one, attributes. If they are experienced educators who have hearts at nurturing kids, they sh ...
作者: gobbys 時間: 10-10-13 14:11
Agreed. It's just similar to our job interview. If you can't expressed your idea to other/interviewer, no one know how smart you are.
I think presentation skill is important to children and adult.
原帖由 artroboy 於 10-10-13 01:41 PM 發表
so what? 咁又點?呢個只係你個人諗法, 乖唔乖, 叻唔叻, 唔係你覺得係就係, 無人覺得自己既小朋友不如人, 個個都覺得自己細路係最好.
你覺得人地d 小朋友太活躍, 咁人地都可以認為你個小朋友太文靜...
平常心啦.
...
作者: appleng 時間: 10-10-13 14:15
其實都唔一定係架...我個仔話當時排佢之前的三個小朋友都唔肯答老師問題, 我個仔主動話比佢答先, 老師都有比佢答...不過都入唔到2 nd in, 所以真係冇路捉呀.
原帖由 ChunYinMa 於 10-10-13 13:55 發表
間間學校都有自己的收生標準, 佢地looking for 邊類型的小朋友只有佢地知, 沒有2nd int 不等於小朋友不叻. 有2nd int. 亦不等於佢比你小朋友叻.
無疑在這場遊戲中, 大胆, 肯說話的小朋友比較著數, 但我想運氣更加 ...
作者: HIM1211 時間: 10-10-13 15:34
原帖由 artroboy 於 10-10-13 13:41 發表
so what? 咁又點?呢個只係你個人諗法, 乖唔乖, 叻唔叻, 唔係你覺得係就係, 無人覺得自己既小朋友不如人, 個個都覺得自己細路係最好.
你覺得人地d 小朋友太活躍, 咁人地都可以認為你個小朋友太文靜...
平常心啦.
...
雖然我個仔有得見第二次，就算我個仔冇得見第二次，但我都好同意你所講<個個都覺得自己細路係最好> 
作者: Edsie 時間: 10-10-13 19:27
Many of my boy's classmates went to first interview and only 1 got into 2nd interview so far!
This boy who got into 2nd interview is quite well-behaved, not too talkative but quite polite, born in Sept.
The other boys who didn't get the 2nd interview were: 1 was quite active and talkative, 1 was active and talktative, born in Aug and the other one was quiet, born in Feb!
原帖由 caa 於 10-10-13 13:39 發表
The interview format is all about talking talking. So being well-behaved is not good enough. Well-behaved is the basic. Expressive kids have all the advantage.
I just think why can't the school acc ...
作者: YUWEI 時間: 10-10-13 19:41
學校有收生自主權,你唔知道佢到底要哪一類的學生,同樣的,你都有選校的權利,講真,如果你有spcc讀,或dbs讀,你應該都唔會揀boys!!
所以大家覺得學校唔會知大家既想法咩??冇可能既!!
so,站在學校哩一方來講,應該都會揀真正會想讀我間學校既學生..我先揀佢..
面試只不過是小朋友第一個人生既考驗,如果有最好,如果冇,都唔代表什麼....希望大家唔好因仔冇2in就否定小朋友.
我覺得這一代的小朋友好慘呀
[ 本帖最後由 YUWEI 於 10-10-13 19:42 編輯 ]
作者: thomasha 時間: 10-10-13 19:46
我怕無 2nd int家長會覺得自責...原帖由 YUWEI 於 10-10-13 19:41 發表
學校有收生自主權,你唔知道佢到底要哪一類的學生,同樣的,你都有選校的權利,講真,如果你有spcc讀,或dbs讀,你應該都唔會揀boys!!
所以大家覺得學校唔會知大家既想法咩??冇可能既!!
so,站在學校哩一方來講,應該都會揀真 ...
作者: Gogojuly 時間: 10-10-13 23:14
原帖由 thomasha 於 10-10-13 19:46 發表
我怕無 2nd int家長會覺得自責...
我的小朋友入唔到第二輪面試,但我沒有自責,也沒有覺得小朋友唔叻.
個人覺得真係學校揀學生,而考到的學生又會揀學校.未能入選A校,去B校亦不壞.平常心,或許我早已打算若考不到便讓他入讀官/津校吧.
我比小朋友去考私校/直資,就如其踏入某一年齡,會有些什麼東西要試吓一樣.只要他已樂意去試,不論結果如何,他仍保持自信就很足夠了.
作者: appleng 時間: 10-10-14 01:11
很同意你的說法..我個仔好ENJOY 去interview 呀. 見完最後一間仲問我, 係唔係冇得去interview 啦？好想再去咁樣.
加上佢interview的表現都同佢平時好相近 (除咗有一次佢唔記得咗老豆叫咩名！！！) 而家個人仲有禮貌咗, 可能都係interview 的好處...緊張的就只有家長吧！
原帖由 Gogojuly 於 10-10-13 23:14 發表
我的小朋友入唔到第二輪面試,但我沒有自責,也沒有覺得小朋友唔叻.
個人覺得真係學校揀學生,而考到的學生又會揀學校.未能入選A校,去B校亦不壞.平常心,或許我早已打算若考不到便讓他入讀官/津校吧.
我比小朋友去考 ...
作者: funnyguy 時間: 10-10-14 10:59
原帖由 TungTung_daddy 於 10-10-13 13:33 發表
我個仔是3月出世。很乖，班內成績也很好。但他沒有second-in。心疼！
反而，班內一些很活躍的小孩卻有。
你們情況如何？
I don't think you need to be upset. Your son will surely get a place in a school in the urban area where the background is middle-class families.
The success of your son directly depends on the resources you grant him. i.e. time, effective skills and knowledge. For the latter two, I believe you can provide them to him because your financial background is good.
Nowadays many schools in the urban areas have a very good standard of English too. But if you think your son has not an identity in a renowned school which is a disgrace, this is another thing.
作者: TinHay 時間: 10-10-14 14:50
Our son did not make it too. but it's may be my faul because I put him in 蘇浙, so he's better with PTH & English than Cantonese.....Add Oil there are still many roads ahead...
原帖由 TungTung_daddy 於 10-10-13 13:33 發表
我個仔是3月出世。很乖，班內成績也很好。但他沒有second-in。心疼！
反而，班內一些很活躍的小孩卻有。
你們情況如何？
作者: martse 時間: 10-10-14 16:09
"很乖，班內成績也很好" 入聖保羅男女的機會會大d播
martse
原帖由 TungTung_daddy 於 10-10-13 13:33 發表
我個仔是3月出世。很乖，班內成績也很好。但他沒有second-in。心疼！
反而，班內一些很活躍的小孩卻有。
你們情況如何？
作者: TungTung_daddy 時間: 10-10-15 11:30 標題: 回覆 4# artroboy 的文章
我已說了他在班內的成績很好。成績不是我評的, 是客觀的事實。
作者: TungTung_daddy 時間: 10-10-15 11:35 標題: 回覆 9# ChunYinMa 的文章
Thanks!
It is one of the reasons the kindergarten suggested us to apply more primary schools.
作者: funnyguy 時間: 10-10-15 15:31
原帖由 TungTung_daddy 於 10-10-15 11:35 發表
Thanks!
It is one of the reasons the kindergarten suggested us to apply more primary schools.
I have shared some views on your case. Do you agree with me? ---funnyguy
作者: MrsLaw 時間: 10-10-15 17:22
請問每年小學部上聖保羅書院的比率是多少？
中學部的學業成績又如何？
請指教！
謝！
作者: hui3328 時間: 10-10-15 17:32
St. Paul Boys 中學及小學都是直資, 應該大部份的小學部學生可以順利升讀中學.
其中學成績一般. 在中西區中學校網, 除咗St. Paul Co-ed top of the top, Band 1 頭學校有St. Joseph, St. Stephen Girls, Bank 1 中有Ying Wah Girls, Kings, 高主教. St. Paul Boys可能只有Band 1尾/Band 2頭.
原帖由 MrsLaw 於 10-10-15 17:22 發表
請問每年小學部上聖保羅書院的比率是多少？
中學部的學業成績又如何？
請指教！
謝！
作者: qqmami2005 時間: 10-10-15 23:51 標題: St Paul Boy - Waste of parents' time
千幾個小朋友報名, 面試只有兩日. 面試後幾天很多家長巳收到失敗信. 學校真的有效率!!!!!
還是未面試巳根據家庭背境準備了這些信呢? 很難說服家長學校不是這樣做? 再者, 我和太太是基督徒, 對這學校的印像和超效率真的痛心和不認同.
作者: amchk 時間: 10-10-16 00:09
可能佢地唔係選學生, 而係選家長呢!
有冇2nd in (或到時最後錄取)既人可以分享一下, 家長係咩野職業和職位!!!
作者: cheng2 時間: 10-10-16 08:42
not really depended on family background. Some of the doctors' sons in class also got rejected also.
Though i am rejected also, I found that some who got into second in are really smart and presentable. Some of them got a lot of prizes in competition.
原帖由 qqmami2005 於 10-10-15 23:51 發表
千幾個小朋友報名, 面試只有兩日. 面試後幾天很多家長巳收到失敗信. 學校真的有效率!!!!!
還是未面試巳根據家庭背境準備了這些信呢? 很難說服家長學校不是這樣做? 再者, 我和太太是基督徒, 對這學校的印像和超效 ...
作者: hui3328 時間: 10-10-16 10:08
算啦, 呢間嘢無論成績, 校際比賽都唔係至Top學校, 面試又做得咁求其, 如果你住中西區/灣仔, 不如參加統一派位, 好多官津校都好過佢.
原帖由 thomasha 於 10-10-13 14:05 發表
yes, it is sad, but unfortunately it is a fact. Your choices are, either playing according to the rules of the game (i.e. the whole P1 admission process), or leave the system and find your own way, e ...
作者: feliciak 時間: 10-10-16 12:04
我想請問rejection信係咪有分兩款? 一款係明年七月可以再interview過(re-consider), 而另一款係完全冇希望呢?
作者: cheng2 時間: 10-10-16 12:29
So, which one is better than it?
Government school: St Joseph
Private school: St Co-edu
Other than the above two, I can't find other. But, one is difficult to get it (st paul co-edu), the other has hard workload and you have to try very hard to keep in the top in class in order to go to st joseph secondary. So, apart from the above two, I still think st paul boys primary school is the good choice, though i was 
rejected.
原帖由 hui3328 於 10-10-16 10:08 發表
算啦, 呢間嘢無論成績, 校際比賽都唔係至Top學校, 面試又做得咁求其, 如果你住中西區/灣仔, 不如參加統一派位, 好多官津校都好過佢.
作者: hui3328 時間: 10-10-16 12:46
灣仔區可考慮軒呢詩官小, 據聞有七成入皇仁. 華仁也不錯, 雖然近年成績跌得好勁, 不過都應該好過St. Paul Boys.
另外, 你可參考去年的一些Post, 高主教中學的成績及Banding都好過St. Paul Boys.
原帖由 cheng2 於 10-10-16 12:29 發表
So, which one is better than it?
Government school: St Joseph
Private school: St Co-edu
Other than the above two, I can't find other. But, one is difficult to get it (st paul co-edu), the other has ...
作者: cheng2 時間: 10-10-16 12:52
But Wah Yan is not good academically both in primary and secondary. Besides, it seems that the
brand name of st paul boys is better than the other primary schools you suggested and the family
background of the students are totally different. St Paul boys is more middle class, has a long
history . Though the the secondary school face some difficulty now, i thought that it will be good after 6 years when our kids are promoted to secondary
school.
原帖由 hui3328 於 10-10-16 12:46 發表
灣仔區可考慮軒呢詩官小, 據聞有七成入皇仁. 華仁也不錯, 雖然近年成績跌得好勁, 不過都應該好過St. Paul Boys.
另外, 你可參考去年的一些Post, 高主教中學的成績及Banding都好過St. Paul Boys.
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作者: mcheung1 時間: 10-10-16 23:11
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作者: diversity 時間: 10-10-16 23:54
[quote]原帖由 hui3328 於 10-10-16 10:08 發表
算啦, 呢間嘢無論成績, 校際比賽都唔係至Top學校, 面試又做得咁求其, 如果你住中西區/灣仔, 不如參加統一派位, 好多官津校都好過佢.
你呢隻嘢無論講嘢或作嘢都令人覺得你係一pat嘢!!
作者: syshawn 時間: 10-10-17 11:45
你話個面試求其，俾兩日時間你地好唔好！我反而欣賞用二十分鐘可以表現自己嘅小朋友
作者: ukodelechan 時間: 10-10-17 11:51
其實我唔明點會覺得間學校唔好，但又要報？間間名校都成日俾人傳成績差，唔好等等。。。我覺得謠言止於智者，學校好唔好搵下資料都知，何況學校唔好，唔top，又點會有千幾人報，爭崩頭呢？
我覺得小朋友考唔到好正常，始終考生多過學位幾倍，但可以做番小小檢討，下次有進步，唔應該詆毀學校。。。
作者: joan921 時間: 10-10-17 13:20
原帖由 qqmami2005 於 10-10-15 23:51 發表
千幾個小朋友報名, 面試只有兩日. 面試後幾天很多家長巳收到失敗信. 學校真的有效率!!!!!
還是未面試巳根據家庭背境準備了這些信呢? 很難說服家長學校不是這樣做? 再者, 我和太太是基督徒, 對這學校的印像和超效 ...
咪作嘢啦......大家都係6號嗰日或之後先收到信.....6號之前都無聽到有家長收到消息....已經有好叻的小朋友話考唔到, 亦都有無宗教背景的小朋友可以2nd in ...咁有幾唔公平......
作者: cheng2 時間: 10-10-17 15:43
Agreed. Most of people here told that st paul boys is not good but they still apply.
Though the interview is only last for 20 minutes,
they require the children to concentrate on the
teacher's instruction, good memory to repeat the
story and to present the story well. Their memory , presentation skill and concentration are tested
already.
Though I cannot go to second in, I have no complain about the interview and the school. Those who can go to second in must prove themselves is outstanding than others during the above interview process.
For those who said that they got good performance in kindergarten but rejected, we actually know
that the kindergarten usually gave good report in
K2 for them to apply primary school. Therefore,
the difference of the students is not depended on
K2 school report. Most of us got good report
also.
原帖由 ukodelechan 於 10-10-17 11:51 發表
其實我唔明點會覺得間學校唔好，但又要報？間間名校都成日俾人傳成績差，唔好等等。。。我覺得謠言止於智者，學校好唔好搵下資料都知，何況學校唔好，唔top，又點會有千幾人報，爭崩頭呢？
我覺得小朋友考唔到好正常，始終考生多過學位幾 ...
作者: mrs_snoopy 時間: 10-10-17 17:19
其實我不是教徒,先生又不是舊生..可以2nd都已經好開心
我覺得有時小朋友的表現往往不是我們家長可預計.....你覺得佢去過學校的open day, 應該好d...點知佢就喊..未去過的paul boys,,佢又好鍾意.....
而且肯定得到2nd in的一定是少數..慢慢仍有陸續的學校公怖消息..大家一定會收到理想信
作者: HoHoMom 時間: 10-10-17 19:46
agree. 一樣米養百樣人
原帖由 ukodelechan 於 10-10-17 11:51 發表
其實我唔明點會覺得間學校唔好，但又要報？間間名校都成日俾人傳成績差，唔好等等。。。我覺得謠言止於智者，學校好唔好搵下資料都知，何況學校唔好，唔top，又點會有千幾人報，爭崩頭呢？
我覺得小朋友考唔到好正常，始終考生多過學位幾 ...
作者: jeremyphlam 時間: 10-10-18 18:52
原帖由 cheng2 於 10-10-16 12:52 發表
But Wah Yan is not good academically both in primary and secondary. Besides, it seems that the
brand name of st paul boys is better than the other primary schools you suggested and the family
backg ...
論成績，華仁絕對好過St. Paul Boys。得罪講句，St. Paul Boys呢個成績配不上傳統名校稱號，家下是食緊老本。
當然，好多人會好唔認同我的講法，又話好多尖子未考就去了留學、傳統名校的network先係最重要.......
中西區分析
中西區有9間官津學校, 唔係band1英中就係band3中中. 男校英中以英皇同聖若瑟較top, 上年聖若瑟14分有75.92%而英皇就67%. 高主教比聖類斯較好, 前者屬band1中(上年14分有61.45%), 後者屬band2頭(最後一次公佈14分有42.9%). 女校英中以英華同聖士提反較top, 聖士提反上年14分有79.1%, 而英華就冇資料. 但係英華係中西區女生首選, 相信命運同英皇差不多, 會考14分估計都係6x%, 聖嘉勒屬band1尾.
第一階段中六收生, 聖嘉勒中五約157人, 中六有84個位, 結果有5個位剩, 即是有79人夠14分(如果全部原校升讀), 佔50.32%. 而英皇中五約192人, 中六有120個位, 結果有20個位剩, 如果全部人原校升讀, 就有100人夠14分, 佔52.08%. 但係我相信有唔少英皇仔走咗去第二間讀. 整體14分既比例應該同上年差唔多, 都係6x%咁上下. 不過我地唔可以只睇14分既比例, 優良數目都好重要.
Band3中中有2間, 聖士提反堂同梁銶琚. 如果以所剩學位推算. 聖士提反堂14分佔13.13%而梁銶琚佔15%. 兩者似乎唔係差好遠, 但梁銶琚比聖士提反堂早收夠人, 相比之下梁銶琚比聖士提反堂好少少. 如果以我標準去評估, 呢兩間屬band3中.
中西區仲有兩間抽獎直資, 即係聖保羅書院同香港聖瑪加利女書院. 如果根餘額推算, 前者有13個位剩, 14分就佔46.39%, 不過睇番上年佢既學校報告, 有94.4%既中六位係原校升讀, 即大約58%, 所以佢係差過高主教, 但係都好過聖類斯好多. 至於聖瑪加利, 就有20個位剩, 14分推算係25%, 屬band2尾. 當然選學校(尤其是band2尾至band3), 校風都好緊要, 要自己去實地理解, 呢o的工夫唔慳得.
歸納上面既分析, 下面就係中西區學校既排位.
band1頭
聖士提反女子中學 (上年6科14分佔79.1%)
聖若瑟英文書院 (上年6科14分佔75.92%)
band1中
英皇書院 (上年6科14分佔67%)
英華女學校
高主教書院 (上年6科14分佔61.45%)
band1尾
聖保羅書院 (推算上年6科14分約佔58%, 今年46.39%)
聖嘉勒女書院 (推算今年6科14分佔50.32%)
band2頭
聖類斯中學 (最後一次公佈6科14分佔42.9%)
band2尾
香港聖瑪加利女書院 (推算今年6科14分佔25%)
band3中
樂善堂梁銶琚書院 (推算今年6科14分佔15%)
聖士提反堂中學 (推算今年6科14分佔13.13%)
灣仔區分析
灣仔區既英中大都係第一階段已經收夠14分既學生, 除咗瑪利曼, 華仁同鄧肇堅. 鄧肇堅屬band1尾(上年14分佔56.7%), 有位剩都唔出奇. 瑪利曼上年會考14分佔81%, 考生130人, 人均優良率係5.01. 本地升中
六既佔69%, 而海外升學既比例都好高, 有26%. 如果用番上年既數據, 假設好多中五生都預咗去外國升學, 有位剩好正常. 至於華仁, 有家長post咗華仁上年有66.4%夠14分, 149人應考, 即有99人夠分, 但中六90個位剩13個, 顯示有22人冇原校升讀, 佔14.77%都算正路. 而人均優良率係4.68, 唔算差.
中中方面, 如果根據中六收生餘額推算, 6科14分既比例估計如下 (只作參考, 因為考生數目唔準確)
鄧鏡波 (28.13%)
維多利亞官立 (27%)
何東 (20.5%)
黃鳳翎 (13.13%)
孔聖堂 (11.25%)
玫瑰崗 (7.5%)
雖然孔聖堂好似好過玫瑰崗, 但係佢收唔夠生, 睇怕遲早都要殺校, 玫瑰崗反而就穩陣o的.
頭3間算係band2尾, 黃鳳翎同孔聖堂屬band3中, 而玫瑰崗屬band3尾.
歸納上面既分析, 下面係灣仔區學校既排位.
band1頭
皇仁書院 (上年6科14分佔82.5%, 人均優良率5.92)
瑪利曼中學 (上年6科14分佔81%, 人均優良率5.01)
嘉諾撒聖方濟各書院 (上年6科14分佔75.8%)
band1中
香港華仁書院 (上年6科14分佔66.4%, 人均優良率4.68)
香港真光中學 (上年6科14分佔66%)
聖保祿中學
band1尾
聖公會鄧肇堅中學 (上年6科14分佔56.7%)
band2尾
香港鄧鏡波書院 (推算今年6科14分佔28.13%)
鄧肇堅維多利亞官立中學 (推算今年6科14分佔27%)
何東中學 (推算今年6科14分佔20.5%)
band3中
佛教黃鳳翎中學 (推算今年6科14分佔13.13%)
孔聖堂中學 (推算今年6科14分佔11.25%)
band3尾
玫瑰崗學校 (推算今年6科14分佔7.5%)
[ 本帖最後由 jeremyphlam 於 10-10-18 18:56 編輯 ]
作者: funnyguy 時間: 10-10-18 20:26
原帖由 jeremyphlam 於 10-10-18 18:52 發表
論成績，華仁絕對好過St. Paul Boys。得罪講句，St. Paul Boys呢個成績配不上傳統名校稱號，家下是食緊老本。
當然，好多人會好唔認同我的講法，又話好多尖子未考就去了留學、傳統名校的network先係最重要.......
中西區 ...
Thank you for your detailed report. It takes time to collect information and analyse. Chinese Typing takes time too.
作者: ukodelechan 時間: 10-10-18 21:55
算啦,我相信大部分家長的眼睛都係明亮的!
只係希望唔好妖言惑眾,影響好學校的名譽. 係咪名校,有智慧的人心中已有答案,數據,名譽自己好清楚.
作者: jeremyphlam 時間: 10-10-18 22:15
原帖由 funnyguy 於 10-10-18 20:26 發表
Thank you for your detailed report. It takes time to collect information and analyse. Chinese Typing takes time too.
不是我做的，取自
http://forum.edu-kingdom.com/viewthread.php?tid=2230797&extra=page%3D1&page=1
作者: chukee 時間: 10-10-18 22:30
http://hk.news.yahoo.com/article/090920/4/ebh3.html
我弟弟在這裏讀到中五,考二十一分,本校不收....因為個個都廿幾分,不過最後佢都入到港大,現職政府化驗師
謠言止於智者
作者: hui3328 時間: 10-10-18 22:34
不過話說回頭, St. Paul Boys 及 St. Stephen 這兩間傳統名校轉成直資的最主要原因是希望有收生自主權. 佢哋認為, 成績唔好係因為教署派不到好學生給他們.
而家呢兩間的小學及中學都轉成一條龍的學校, 收生質素大為提高了. 以後的公開考試成績是否會大為改善, 大家拭目以待.
作者: jeremyphlam 時間: 10-10-18 22:42
原帖由 chukee 於 10-10-18 22:30 發表
http://hk.news.yahoo.com/article/090920/4/ebh3.html
我弟弟在這裏讀到中五,考二十一分,本校不收....因為個個都廿幾分,不過最後佢都入到港大,現職政府化驗師
謠言止於智者 ...
你說得對，謠言止於智者，數據最能反映事實。
[ 本帖最後由 jeremyphlam 於 10-10-18 22:49 編輯 ]
作者: chubby2688 時間: 10-10-19 09:17
請問邊22間補助名校??
原帖由 jeremyphlam 於 10-10-18 22:42 發表
我很相信好多學校N年前的成績是很好的，由其是那22間補助名校，但是能否保持到現在就見人見智啦！
你說得對，謠言止於智者，數據最能反映事實。 ...
作者: martse 時間: 10-10-19 09:44
原帖由 qqmami2005 於 10-10-15 23:51 發表
千幾個小朋友報名, 面試只有兩日. 面試後幾天很多家長巳收到失敗信. 學校真的有效率!!!!!
還是未面試巳根據家庭背境準備了這些信呢? 很難說服家長學校不是這樣做? 再者, 我和太太是基督徒, 對這學校的印像和超效 ...
qqmami,
我好相信如果你收到既係2nd In 信, 你既 "印像" 會完完全全改觀 
martse
作者: cheng2 時間: 10-10-19 09:58
St pauls boy and st stephen have a good big and good campus (st paul boy will move to a new
school campus in 2012). They have a lot of
choices to choose their students, just like now
1400 applicants to choose 96. They can choose the smart students to train them and the
academic result must be more promising than
government school 6 years later. Besides, the
family background of st paul boys are more middle class and they have enough resources to train
the student.
不過話說回頭, St. Paul Boys 及 St. Stephen 這兩間傳統名校轉成直資的最主要原因是希望有收生自主權. 佢哋認為, 成績唔好係因為教署派不到好學生給他們.
而家呢兩間的小學及中學都轉成一條龍的學校, 收生質素大為 ... [/quote]
作者: CHTmami 時間: 10-10-19 10:03
Thank you for stating the actual performance of the students. It is more reliable than those postings which are just based on other people's "guessings".
作者: funnyguy 時間: 10-10-19 10:20
原帖由 CHTmami 於 10-10-19 10:03 發表
Thank you for stating the actual performance of the students. It is more reliable than those postings which are just based on other people's "guessings".
You made a great point.
Please view their own report in 2009.
P.24 or 27 of this link.
http://www.spc.edu.hk/docs/news_from_spc_10.pdf
Only 9 pupils in total went to HKU and CU. More than 30 studied as the Associate Degree undergraduates
作者: ukodelechan 時間: 10-10-19 10:20
沒錯，如果得到second int., 大家又會有別的想法。
每次有結果後總有人大大批評，或者吃不到的葡萄係酸的！雖然我家孩子唔係就讀聖保羅，但係見到對好學校的歪理難以認同。
什麼數據，證據，還係自己搵的可信。
作者: CHTmami 時間: 10-10-19 10:30
One year drop does not mean that it would go down forever.
作者: milkonline2 時間: 10-10-19 11:08
幾個學生出來的成績又可代表整間學校嗎？你的論點真可笑！自相予盾！（我對這學校立場中立！）原帖由 CHTmami 於 10-10-19 10:03 AM 發表
Thank you for stating the actual performance of the students. It is more reliable than those postings which are just based on other people's "guessings".
[ 本帖最後由 milkonline2 於 10-10-19 11:16 編輯 ]
作者: jeremyphlam 時間: 10-10-19 11:42
原帖由 chubby2688 於 10-10-19 09:17 發表
請問邊22間補助名校??
香港補助學校議會
香港補助學校議會由香港二十二所歷史悠久的英文教會學校所組成。由於這些學校已創立多時，培育過不少社會人才，教學成果有目共睹，而且各校均有獨特的文化傳承，被坊間統稱為傳統名校。香港補助學校議會與香港津貼中學議會等學校議會，對香港中等教育的政策制定都有影響力。
這些學校全早於1973年前受政府指定資助，所以名為補助學校(英文：Grant Schools)。這些學校全部由教會主辦，大部份經費來自政府的補助，但學校的日常運作由辦學的教會負責。
英華書院（1818）
聖保羅書院（1851）
聖保祿學校（1854）
拔萃女書院（1860）
嘉諾撒聖心書院（1860）
拔萃男書院（1869）
嘉諾撒聖方濟各書院（1869）
聖若瑟書院（1875）
英華女學校（1900）
嘉諾撒聖瑪利書院（1900）
聖士提反女子中學（1906）
聖保羅男女中學（1915）
香港華仁書院（1919）
九龍華仁書院（1924）
瑪利諾修院學校（1925）
瑪利曼中學（1927）
聖嘉勒女書院（1927）
喇沙書院（1932）
協恩中學（1936）
聖馬可中學（1949）
循道中學（1958）
聖保祿中學（1960）
Extracted from:
http://zh.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/香港補助學校議會
[ 本帖最後由 jeremyphlam 於 10-10-19 11:49 編輯 ]
作者: jeremyphlam 時間: 10-10-19 12:17
講句公道說話，除非和SPCC及DBS比, St. Paul Boys 絕對係非常理想的選擇。比起果d開業幾年成績未有就用marketing技巧吹捧自己為名校的新進直資。St. Paul Boys真的好太多太多了。
作者: chubby2688 時間: 10-10-19 13:34
多謝你的資料.
哈哈哈, 我都係畢業於其中一所補助學校, 想當年成績屬中上...又如何, 現職C9一名.
做父母一定希望子女入讀最top既學校, 但都要小朋友handle到, 全級150人, 考149...真係mut鬼野自信心都冇啦! 仲有, 考慮自己家庭背景同資金又係咪配合到呢?!
原帖由 jeremyphlam 於 10-10-19 11:42 發表
香港補助學校議會
香港補助學校議會由香港二十二所歷史悠久的英文教會學校所組成。由於這些學校已創立多時，培育過不少社會人才，教學成果有目共睹，而且各校均有獨特的文化傳承，被坊間統稱為傳統名校。香港補助學校議會 ...
作者: arielhoney 時間: 10-10-19 13:56
而家好多學校都是靠marketing來撐起,死未!
教育改革真偉大.......翻天覆地
作者: diversity 時間: 10-10-19 14:17
原帖由 arielhoney 於 10-10-19 13:56 發表
而家好多學校都是靠marketing來撐起,死未!
教育改革真偉大.......翻天覆地
同意, 相對某些學校, SPC可算是一間非常低調和有class的school.
作者: jeremyphlam 時間: 10-10-19 14:20
原帖由 chubby2688 於 10-10-19 13:34 發表
多謝你的資料.
哈哈哈, 我都係畢業於其中一所補助學校, 想當年成績屬中上...又如何, 現職C9一名.
做父母一定希望子女入讀最top既學校, 但都要小朋友handle到, 全級150人, 考149...真係mut鬼野自信心都冇啦! 仲有, ...
好多補助學校都重係津校，唔係好明關家底、資金乜事？
為人父母應該最清楚自己子女的實力，明知唔得梗係唔好勉強。
作者: chubby2688 時間: 10-10-19 14:27
SPCPS既校長同老師是非常好的, 佢地唔會放棄不聽話同成績較不理想既學生.
原帖由 diversity 於 10-10-19 14:17 發表
同意, 相對某些學校, SPC可算是一間非常低調和有class的school.
作者: chubby2688 時間: 10-10-19 14:30
我係話巳轉直資嗰d呀.
原帖由 jeremyphlam 於 10-10-19 14:20 發表
好多補助學校都重係津校，唔係好明關家底、資金乜事？
為人父母應該最清楚自己子女的實力，明知唔得梗係唔好勉強。
作者: andrewpapa 時間: 10-10-20 00:46
So happy to have so many people do the research and talk about St Paul Boy.
Let me share my point of view. As a father or mother, our prime role is to educate our children and guide them. P1 interview is not the end but only the beginning. We still have decade to teach our children. Why we have sense of disappointment so soon? Once our children start their P1, disappointment come days in days out. Not from any particular school but any school. Not from any subject but from all subjects.
Talk about the fairness of an interview or the detail of an interview - is the length of an interview really that matter? Or the content of the interview should matter? I am sure each headmaster or headmistress should have their experience on their interview design. No matter what, as parents, we should do as many researches as possible before the interview. We won’t be known by then. Why compliant thereafter?
Whether the school is famous or not? How to define? BY history, by public exam result or by people impression? How come other will care about that? I think only alumnus, current students or “students to be” will care.
Why parents will care? For our own good feeling? Or really for our children? Of coz we will think graduated from famous school should have higher chance of success in the future, but is it guaranteed? Without us, the parents' contribution, can or cannot? So 身教是非常重要
最後我一定要說, 我介懷人家的用詞, 人家對學校的態度. 好的我會歡迎, 差的我會自省. 但不友善的, 我會起來維護. 我信這不是SPC or SPCPS 校友, 學生, 及家長獨有的.
I also share at other threads that secondary school has no banding catergory under EDB. The banding system is for the P6 student to join the central allocation. Official document per attached.
http://www.edb.gov.hk/FileManage ... ents_100420_eng.pdf
If you want to point out the disappointed result of the secondary school, please only use the school report P24 to 27. thanks
[ 本帖最後由 andrewpapa 於 10-10-20 01:33 編輯 ]
作者: hui3328 時間: 10-10-20 09:42
教署是沒有將中學分等級, 因擔心造成標籤效應, 但教育界一些有心人根據各中學的派位情況, 例如收到多少比例Band 1學生, 多少Band 2學生等, 而自行將學校分等級.
另一個參考方法是公開考試(主要是會考成績), 雖然有Ups & Downs, 但也會看到整体趨勢, 某幾間傳統名校近10年成績確實是大幅滑落, 靠食老本, 當然也有一些可以保持水準.
由於目前的資訊透明度太低, 民間的統計數據究竟多準確, 便不得而知.
原帖由 andrewpapa 於 10-10-20 00:46 發表
So happy to have so many people do the research and talk about St Paul Boy.
Let me share my point of view. As a father or mother, our prime role is to educate our children and guide them. P1 interv ...
作者: jeremyphlam 時間: 10-10-20 12:47
原帖由 hui3328 於 10-10-20 09:42 發表
教署是沒有將中學分等級, 因擔心造成標籤效應, 但教育界一些有心人根據各中學的派位情況, 例如收到多少比例Band 1學生, 多少Band 2學生等, 而自行將學校分等級.
另一個參考方法是公開考試(主要是會考成績), 雖然 ...
雖然很多人唔同意又幫忙護航，但某些傳統名校成績下降是不爭的事實。希望轉了直資後可以回升，始終學校是有往績培養出狀元之才。
所以就算係食緊老本我都認為值得揀，始終傳統、視野、校友關係和培養全人發展方面，絕非那些直資學店，甚至地區名校可比。
好成績會對入大學有幫助，但其他所學所見的會夠小朋友一生受用。
[ 本帖最後由 jeremyphlam 於 10-10-20 13:27 編輯 ]
作者: diversity 時間: 10-10-20 12:58
SPC 正正就是不想食老本, 所以才毅然轉直資, 加強收生自主權. 的確, 它在最近顯示的成績有所滑落, 據了解, 它在轉自資時的strategy是有所不足, 引致一些收生質素的銜接問題, 但transition phase 現已完成. 一两年的成績起落便rule out 整間學校的努力是十分不公平. 要知道, 会考現已成過去, 即將到來的是新334學制, 我們不防放長双眼看看各「名校」的表現吧!
作者: diversity 時間: 10-10-20 13:28
[quote]原帖由 jeremyphlam 於 10-10-20 12:47 發表
好成績會對入大學有幫助，但其他所學所見的會夠小朋友一生受用。
Well said.
作者: funnyguy 時間: 10-10-20 20:02
I chose to quit
[ 本帖最後由 funnyguy 於 10-10-21 00:15 編輯 ]
作者: diversity 時間: 10-10-20 20:54
In Sheung Shui, there is a school called Tang Hin Secondary School. I am afraid most of you may not have heard it before. Even when the school re ... [/quote]
阿得意佬,
你真係幾得意, 對SPC甘有興趣, 講野又不斷重重覆覆都係一個 point. 唔該你睇清楚人講左的乜先啦!又你知唔知decade呢個字点解?唔知就look it up in the dictionary啦!
作者: funnyguy 時間: 10-10-20 22:32
原帖由 diversity 於 10-10-20 20:54 發表
In Sheung Shui, there is a school called Tang Hin Secondary School. I am afraid most of you may not have heard it before. Even when the school re ...
I chose to quit
[ 本帖最後由 funnyguy 於 10-10-21 00:14 編輯 ]
作者: parenthk 時間: 10-10-20 23:14
原帖由 appleng 於 10-10-13 14:15 發表
其實都唔一定係架...我個仔話當時排佢之前的三個小朋友都唔肯答老師問題, 我個仔主動話比佢答先, 老師都有比佢答...不過都入唔到2 nd in, 所以真係冇路捉呀.
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My son had similar experience. He told me that he can answer the questions, he was polite, he can build the lego, and he even helped other applicant submitted the form even. Unfortunately, I got the rejected letter as well. By the way, take it easy and don't give him pressure.
作者: DrBabyAlex 時間: 10-10-20 23:14
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作者: TungTung_daddy 時間: 10-10-21 10:02
Actually, I believe SPC is a good school. Thus, we applied for it. I checked with my son again. It seems that he made some mistakes during interview.
I talked with some parents. They shared to me their experience. No matter what had happened, their kids always told them that interviews were conducted very well. So, the final result may not match to what they have informed to us.
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