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作者: miaooo 時間: 10-5-26 01:53 標題: 法語班 or 日本語

choose 法語班 or 日本語 is better??
please comment

作者: flostangraphy 時間: 10-5-27 11:31

冇話邊個語言is better 嘅....
而且, eng/chinese stream 每星期得2hrs of japanese / french.
imagine 40 weeks of school per year makes 80hrs per year x 6 years. so less than 500hrs of these 3rd language after primary school.
what i want to say is if you can assistance your child at home with one of these languages, you should then chose this language, because it will really help him to practise more in real life.
otherwise, the child will only can have a notion of this language within 6 years.
he or she may need to continue to learn the language in secondary school in order to speak or write in the future.

原帖由 miaooo 於 26/5/2010 01:53 發表
choose 法語班 or 日本語 is better??
please comment

作者: miaooo 時間: 10-6-1 01:34

my son like french also like japanese
, i wondered which one is more popular to use

作者: flostangraphy 時間: 10-6-1 09:33

French is written with the 26 letters of the Latin alphabet.
French is a descendant of the Latin language of the Roman Empire, as are national languages such as Italian, Portuguese, Spanish and Romanian, and minority languages ranging from Occitan to Neapolitan.
you already knew Mandarin is most spoken language in the world. followed by Spanish (2nd) and English (3rd).
Japanese is actually the 9th with 130 million native + 2 million second language = 132 million total!
French with 128 million “native and real speakers" (includes 64,473,140 French people) and 72 million "bilinguals". More than 200 total both native and second language. Not including partial speakers, and up to 450+ million total with significant knowledge of the language. French is the 4th most spoken language in the world when including second language speakers.

hope this help!

原帖由 miaooo 於 1/6/2010 01:34 發表
my son like french also like japanese
, i wondered which one is more popular to use

作者: Laputa 時間: 10-6-10 22:25

wondering how many % of chinese students will study French . . . I tend to choose French for my girl, but am afraid that most chinese students will pick Japanese. . .

作者: DaddyCool 時間: 10-6-10 22:28

原帖由 Laputa 於 10-6-10 22:25 發表
wondering how many % of chinese students will study French . . . I tend to choose French for my girl, but am afraid that most chinese students will pick Japanese. . .

如果中國籍的學生讀法文是少數, 又如何?

作者: Laputa 時間: 10-6-10 22:38

When majority of Chinese students are taking Japanese, I am afraid my girl would question why she's in French stream. Being in a minority group in a community is a challenge. Nothing about good or bad, but just a mum's worry. I am not a racist.

作者: DaddyCool 時間: 10-6-10 22:57

原帖由 Laputa 於 10-6-10 22:38 發表
When majority of Chinese students are taking Japanese, I am afraid my girl would question why she's in French stream. Being in a minority group in a community is a challenge. Nothing about good or b ...

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讀日文的學生一定比學法文的多, 其中一個主要因素係香港受日本影響相對比法國深. 但如果講到有用, 個人認為法文會比日本普及.

至於你所擔心嘅問題, 我認為不是一個問題囉, minority group in a community is not a challenge, and afterall, I think your girl will not be the minority in school if she is a Chinese.

作者: DaddyCool 時間: 10-6-10 23:03

原帖由 Laputa 於 10-6-10 22:38 發表
When majority of Chinese students are taking Japanese, I am afraid my girl would question why she's in French stream. Being in a minority group in a community is a challenge. Nothing about good or b ...

btw, my daughter is in French stream :)

作者: Laputa 時間: 10-6-11 14:00

DaddyCool,

"但如果講到有用, 個人認為法文會比日本普及."

Cannot agree more about this, so that's why I would like to enroll her to the French stream. How do you help your daughter re French? I am finding some elementary French learning pack to study first. Maybe I should ask Frostangraphy some recommendation.

作者: Laputa 時間: 10-6-11 14:01

The study pack is for myself, not for my daughter

作者: DaddyCool 時間: 10-6-11 14:22

原帖由 Laputa 於 10-6-11 14:00 發表
DaddyCool,

"但如果講到有用, 個人認為法文會比日本普及."

Cannot agree more about this, so that's why I would like to enroll her to the French stream. How do you help your daughter re French? I am fi ...

我自己都唔識法文o架, 咁呀女初初讀嗰時咪俾佢去法國文化協會補習囉, 之不過唔見有特別進步 (應該係一班人太多, 老師照顧唔到咁多個), 後來去咗一間小型嘅補習社 (但好似話而家已經冇法文補習班了), 只得兩個小朋友學法文, 所以導師跟進得比較好, 呀女明顯進步咗. 而家就係自己上網搵咗個補習老師每星期上門補個半至兩個鐘.

人老咗, 邊樹有記性呀, 本來同呀女講, 佢學咗乜野就教我啦 (其實係想佢認真學習, 等佢返到屋企教老豆, 佢自己覺得有野老豆唔識嘅, 感覺良好咪俾心機囉), 點知學一數到十, 噚日學完今日已經唔記得

, 還好小朋友嘅語言學習能力真係唔同 d, 而家基本上都應付到, 雖然唔會最高分, 應該都算中上卦, 可能你唔知, 我呀女係三年級插班生, 所以係比同班同學學少咗兩年嘅.

作者: DaddyCool 時間: 10-6-11 14:24

係呀, 你問下 flostan 啦, 佢好好人, 會幫到你o架.............:)

作者: flostangraphy 時間: 10-6-11 15:46

好! 幫幫你啦!

un, deux, trois, quatre, cinq, six, sept, huit, neuf, dix......

原帖由 DaddyCool 於 11/6/2010 14:24 發表
係呀, 你問下 flostan 啦, 佢好好人, 會幫到你o架.............:)

作者: flostangraphy 時間: 10-6-11 16:03

please check PM

原帖由 Laputa 於 11/6/2010 14:01 發表
The study pack is for myself, not for my daughter

作者: Laputa 時間: 10-6-13 18:13

原帖由 DaddyCool 於 10-6-11 14:22 發表

我自己都唔識法文o架, 咁呀女初初讀嗰時咪俾佢去法國文化協會補習囉, 之不過唔見有特別進步 (應該係一班人太多, 老師照顧唔到咁多個), 後來去咗一間小型嘅補習社 (但好似話而家已經冇法文補習班了), 只得兩個小朋友 ...

DaddyCool,

I applied the same strategy when I sent my girl to Mandarin course and it worked. 橋唔怕舊, 最堅要受

作者: mamachristy 時間: 10-6-22 22:41

我朋友個妹o係陳守仁教, 佢話法文同日文都係咁多人揀, 每級大約有三班法文兩班日文, 不過我覺得都係睇小朋友興趣,佢有興趣,自然學得開心d, 我好鍾意陳守仁的第三語言政策,不過唔知阿仔出年入唔入到. 而家仲頭痛緊揀多幾間學校,in 多幾間, 好似多d機會.

原帖由 DaddyCool 於 10-6-10 22:57 發表

ic.

讀日文的學生一定比學法文的多, 其中一個主要因素係香港受日本影響相對比法國深. 但如果講到有用, 個人認為法文會比日本普及.

至於你所擔心嘅問題, 我認為不是一個問題囉, minority group in a community is ...

作者: bowling68 時間: 10-6-23 00:00

阿仔好開心, 知道有法文學.係屋企成日講 bonjour, merci beaucoup
同 au revouir. 不過都係得呢三句

作者: DaddyCool 時間: 10-6-23 00:15

原帖由 bowling68 於 10-6-23 00:00 發表
阿仔好開心, 知道有法文學.係屋企成日講 bonjour, merci beaucoup
同 au revouir. 不過都係得呢三句

嘩, 都多過我兩句喎....................

作者: flostangraphy 時間: 10-6-23 11:41

我係屋企都係得兩句喎!!!
"je t'aime" "moi non plus" ......

原帖由 DaddyCool 於 23/6/2010 00:15 發表

嘩, 都多過我兩句喎....................

作者: principal 時間: 10-6-23 11:46

flostangraphy,

Do you still say this every year, every season, every month, every week, everyday, every hour, every minute or every second??

原帖由 flostangraphy 於 10-6-23 11:41 發表

我係屋企都係得兩句喎!!!
"je t'aime" "moi non plus" ......

作者: Miss_N 時間: 10-7-3 18:53

As my kid (Chinese) already learned Japanese and her current level already equals to P.5-P.6 Japanese level as school stated. Should we still choose Japanese as third language subject during coming application in Aug 2010? Hope to ask for the opinions from TSL parents, here are my concerns:-
Pros: Guarantees to have good result through out the years in Jpn subject and having priority to join the Jpn shcool trip if hold (confirmed with teacher), she must have fun and like the subject.
Cons: May be too easy during P1 already, may be lost of interest or concentration during the class. Need to work hard on French and we (mom & kid) don't know at all.
Thank you

作者: bowling68 時間: 10-7-4 08:56

上次簡介會話要 28/06前填表揀法語 or 日本語 ,
otherwise allocation by random.

話法語 or 日本語一個禮拜只得兩堂,
學完六年大概係相等 French stream 完結三年級的程度

作者: huba 時間: 10-7-5 18:42

During the recent P1 admission seminar, the school has mentioned that the optional Japanese/French subjects will not be counted in the formal school results so you don't need to concern much about the results on these optional subjects.

As your child's Japanese has reached P5/P6 level, I am afraid it is a waste of time to enrol her into the school's Japanese class. This may even discourage her from advancing her Japanese to the next stage.

Isn't it fun for her to learn a new language (French) instead?

By the way, I'm not a parent of existing TSL's student. Maybe existing parents for TSL's students can share their actual experience with you from a different angle.

原帖由 Miss_N 於 3/7/2010 18:53 發表
As my kid (Chinese) already learned Japanese and her current level already equals to P.5-P.6 Japanese level as school stated. Should we still choose Japanese as third language subject during coming ap ...

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作者: flostangraphy 時間: 10-7-5 19:10

i'm impressed!!! does her chinese and english level also already equals to P.5-P.6?!

原帖由 Miss_N 於 3/7/2010 18:53 發表
As my kid (Chinese) already learned Japanese and her current level already equals to P.5-P.6 Japanese level as school stated. Should we still choose Japanese as third language subject during coming ap ...

作者: Miss_N 時間: 10-7-6 00:19 標題: 回覆 1# flostangraphy 的文章

Please don't kidding. She is a normal kid. I discovered my kid was interested in Jpn and let her learn more. TSL's Jpn level is simple after I made visit in open day and admission talk but their Jpn events are still attractive. My girl was exciting as she heard about Jpn learning in P.1. I may let her continue her Jpn study by myself and tutorial class after school. Let see if she can admit TSL later. And thanks for the opinion from "huba" too.

作者: flostangraphy 時間: 10-7-6 11:35

:) he he he!! i was not kidding when i said i'm impressed!!!
however, i think i did misunderstand you was talking about the p5/p6 japanese level of tsl....

sorry about that....

in our case, my son is french/chinese mix and his french is almost fluent level in conversation. need some help in reading very simple books. can't write any sentence in french yet.
compare with his french cousins, his level is for sure one to 2 years late....
his english level is quite ok k3 level, fluent also with his non chinese friends, read by himself with some very simple text books.... better with images for better understanding.....
however, chinese is real average k3 level.... he was at international stream for n1 and k1, and switched to local stream from k2. so he started writing last year only.
he actually feel quite comfortable to switch either language although he does mix them up from time to time.... (often actually....

). but then, me and my wife never really push him on the language side. to be honest, i would said he is just k2/k3 level for all the french, english and chinese.... however, i'm not comparing with tsl level.
we decided to put him in the french stream as we want him to feel more comfortable in both french and chinese lessons at school, but will apply him for some extra french and chinese classes apart in the future.

by saying all these, in your case, i do agree with you applying your daugther for 3rd language in japanese, as it's always good to have good academic result at school.
and as you said, since the level at tsl is not very advance anyway, she can always learn french from alliance francais, or some french learning center as leisure!

原帖由 Miss_N 於 6/7/2010 00:19 發表
Please don't kidding. She is a normal kid. I discovered my kid was interested in Jpn and let her learn more. TSL's Jpn level is simple after I made visit in open day and admission talk but their Jpn e ...

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作者: Miss_N 時間: 10-7-6 20:02 標題: 回覆 1# flostangraphy 的文章

Thanks for your opinion.
Is your 2nd son going to apply TSL in this Aug (for P.1 in 2011-2012?)

From the information in admission talk last Saturday, after completed the P.6 level of French in TSL Eng-Chi stream, kids are able to order food in French restaurant.. so I don't know whether the level can say as enough or really an elementary level.

Actually my daughter is having Jpn private tutoral by Jpn teacher, and she already understand the basic Hiragana, Katagana, greetings and small amount of vocabularys (that is similar to the P5-P.6 level of TSL Jpn level).

Its fine to make such discussion as u know we need to fill in the option for language fro the very beginning of application. ha ha. Its good to have chance to learn French too if she can admit TSL. By the way, other subjects and teachers are good as I observed during open day and from the presenation in admission talk.

hope to meet u and ur son soon.

作者: flostangraphy 時間: 10-7-7 00:47

nope.... my 2nd son will apply for the P1 2012-2013.

i really wonder how many candidate would be next year.....
with my wife we did think for sometime before selecting tsl.
for your information, french international school (lycee francais) is the only school in hong kong which the french level is correct.... but putting the child in a international school, the chinese level will be really low for our expectation.... (the chinese level of tsl french stream is already a bit low for us but still....), the language environment makes tsl really interesting to us! of cause there are a lot of other things....

like the teachers are really caring and patient. and the parents of tsl are very helpful and open mind as well !!!!

we really would like all our 3 kids study here!

(yup, the shoes are shinning...)

原帖由 Miss_N 於 6/7/2010 20:02 發表
Thanks for your opinion.
Is your 2nd son going to apply TSL in this Aug (for P.1 in 2011-2012?)

From the information in admission talk last Saturday, after completed the P.6 level of French in TSL En ...

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作者: Miss_N 時間: 10-7-7 10:57 標題: 回覆 1# flostangraphy 的文章

So ur 1st son is current TSL pupil? sorry about that I am new in this forum.

作者: flostangraphy 時間: 10-7-7 11:15

hello Miss_N,
welcome!! i'm not yet a tsl parent actually....
our elder son will join the P1 2010-2011 in September at TSL!!! and all the family members are really excited about that!!!

原帖由 Miss_N 於 7/7/2010 10:57 發表
So ur 1st son is current TSL pupil? sorry about that I am new in this forum.

作者: huba 時間: 10-7-7 12:37

Hi,

Seeing so many posts from you in TSL forum, it's interesting to know you are not yet a tsl parent.

My case is similar to you but not exactly the same. My son is half Japanese and half Chinese(Hong Kong to be precise).

I have been there on the Open Day and saw the presentation of the students learning Japanese and talked to the teacher. For us, we'll apply TSL for my son but will not consider the Japanese class there. If my son is lucky enough to receive an offer, I would simply enrol him to English/Chinese stream and take French as the third language subject.

Honestly with just two sessions a week, I don't think we can expect much except for arousing interest of our kids with the third language.

Cheers.

原帖由 flostangraphy 於 7/7/2010 11:15 發表
hello Miss_N,
welcome!! i'm not yet a tsl parent actually....
our elder son will join the P1 2010-2011 in September at TSL!!! and all the family members are really excited about that!!!

作者: flostangraphy 時間: 10-7-7 18:28

hey my wife has made friends with 2 japanese mums which their non chinese children will go to the french stream in september as well. and no, they will not learn japanese at tsl neither...

good luck for your son's application!

原帖由 huba 於 7/7/2010 12:37 發表
Hi,

Seeing so many posts from you in TSL forum, it's interesting to know you are not yet a tsl parent.

My case is similar to you but not exactly the same. My son is half Japanese and half Chinese(Ho ...

作者: huba 時間: 10-7-7 19:07

Thanks and my son does need luck considering so many applicants for TSL.

原帖由 flostangraphy 於 7/7/2010 18:28 發表
hey my wife has made friends with 2 japanese mums which their non chinese children will go to the french stream in september as well. and no, they will not learn japanese at tsl neither...

good luck ...

作者: Miss_N 時間: 10-7-8 00:14 標題: 回覆 4# flostangraphy 的文章

Congratulations...
félicitations....
おめでどう～

作者: bowling68 時間: 10-7-8 04:33

Ooops, Flostangrahy. I know who you are now, as we saw one couples talking to another mum who seems to be Japanese after the breifing meeting at he exit of Hall.

原帖由 flostangraphy 於 10-7-7 18:28 發表
hey my wife has made friends with 2 japanese mums which their non chinese children will go to the french stream in september as well. and no, they will not learn japanese at tsl neither...

good luck ...

[ 本帖最後由 bowling68 於 10-7-8 04:50 編輯 ]

作者: flostangraphy 時間: 10-7-8 09:22

kummmm...... 我老婆最鍾意阻塞出入口....

we are sure not the most good looking ones...

原帖由 bowling68 於 8/7/2010 04:33 發表
Ooops, Flostangrahy. I know who you are now, as we saw one couples talking to another mum who seems to be Japanese after the breifing meeting at the exit of Hall.

And the quality (appearance) of th ...

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