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作者: Ving    時間: 10-5-12 00:18     標題: Which one is more easy?

Is it more easy to go good DSS/private thru interview, or more easy to go good Govt/subsidy thru lucky draw?
作者: silvia_ng    時間: 10-5-12 01:47

原帖由 Ving 於 10-5-12 00:18 發表
Is it more easy to go good DSS/private thru interview, or more easy to go good Govt/subsidy thru lucky draw?


嘩...呢d冇得好講架喎, 你考邊間又唔知, 每間學校機會率都不同。 如果你想知小朋友有冇抽獎命, 咁要搵個生神仙至得啦!
作者: Charlotte_mom    時間: 10-5-12 09:45

係呀, 考私校直資都要睇下小朋友咩料得架, 如果超班既, 考10間收10間, 準備不足, 可能考十幾間一個offer都無, 而家d學校, 10個人爭一個位已經叫"少"!

至於抽獎, 好命水的話誇區都入到超名校, 唔好命, 同區都可以派間無揀既俾你, 當然住邊區同選校策略可以影響結果, 但亦有好多因素控制唔到呀 (正如私校都有d好易考, 父母想唔想要得架)
作者: To_Ma    時間: 10-5-20 13:03

原帖由 Charlotte_mom 於 10-5-12 09:45 發表
係呀, 考私校直資都要睇下小朋友咩料得架, 如果超班既, 考10間收10間, 準備不足, 可能考十幾間一個offer都無, 而家d學校, 10個人爭一個位已經叫"少"!

至於抽獎, 好命水的話誇區都入到超名校, 唔好命, 同區都可以派 ...
hi hi,  i have question,  why there are any parents asking about how to entry DSS/ private school?   Are they really really absolutely the best choice??  i think their school fees are not cheap.    Why not to choice good Govt/subsidy school which i couldn't find any different?  Also no need to pay much $$?
作者: hohoho8    時間: 10-5-20 13:27

like charlotte_mom said....至於抽獎 (gov schools), 好命水的話誇區都入到超名校, 唔好命, 同區都可以派間無揀既俾你, 當然住邊區同選校策略可以影響結果, 但亦有好多因素控制唔到呀

of course, everyone wants to get into a 'good Govt/subsidy school'... BUT how much points do you have for 1st round allocation? and for 2nd round, if you are unlucky, you might not even get into 1 of your top 5 choices... are you ok with that???!!!  i think alot of people hesitate to leave it to 'luck'!

原帖由 To_Ma 於 10-5-20 13:03 發表
hi hi,  i have question,  why there are any parents asking about how to entry DSS/ private school?   Are they really really absolutely the best choice??  i think their school fees are not cheap.    Wh ...

作者: To_Ma    時間: 10-5-20 13:34

原帖由 hohoho8 於 10-5-20 13:27 發表
like charlotte_mom said....至於抽獎 (gov schools), 好命水的話誇區都入到超名校, 唔好命, 同區都可以派間無揀既俾你, 當然住邊區同選校策略可以影響結果, 但亦有好多因素控制唔到呀

of course, everyone wants t ...
i see...just wonder the choices of DSS/ Private are also limited, but with unlimited admission application, even i let my son to have many extra programmes/ studies, there is still no guarantee for getting the 1st choice.  The game is too hard and burn money, may be "luck" is more relax....
作者: hohoho8    時間: 10-5-20 13:42

well...
1) yes, there's no guarantee, but applying for dss and private schools only gives you more choices and a chance to choose... if you get accepted by a dss or private, you can choose whether to accept or not... or to try your luck with the gov schools

2) ec activities can be for life, not just for interviews, then will they be worth it??

3) of course, the most 'relax' way is to try your luck... IF you can accept the outcome no matter what it is.

wish you best of luck!

原帖由 To_Ma 於 10-5-20 13:34 發表
i see...just wonder the choices of DSS/ Private are also limited, but with unlimited admission application, even i let my son to have many extra programmes/ studies, there is still no guarantee for g ...

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作者: Charlotte_mom    時間: 10-5-20 13:52

Agree
事實就係.........每年放榜後, 總有家長出黎喊晒, 話派得唔好唔知點算, 早知就去申請私校, 而家間間都截晒點算好
遊戲規則就係咁, 個個都係咁玩, 邊個唔想又免費又好? 父母唔通嫌錢鯹, 交左稅有免費學校唔通, 係都要俾錢?
無非都係得2個原因: 1, 鐘意果間咁岩係私校/直資 2,頂唔順個派位制度, 無可能由得派邊間就讀邊間, 所以早一步自己去plan姐, 早一步唔plan, 派得唔好到時咪失晒預算lor

原帖由 hohoho8 於 10-5-20 01:42 PM 發表
well...
1) yes, there's no guarantee, but applying for dss and private schools only gives you more choices and a chance to choose... if you get accepted by a dss or private, you can choose whether to ...

作者: meowmeow    時間: 10-5-20 13:54

其實選擇DSS 可能係:
1.  自己同另外一半以前讀個間小學麻麻地.
2.  冇宗教分
3.  居住地區校網麻麻或競爭好大, 而又唔容許搬屋.
4.  覺得抽獎比較被動
5.  一向冇咩抽獎命...
6.  學校既理念同家長好吻合.

另外可以俾小朋友試吓面試, 都係一個經驗, 如果冇學校收, 咁返去大抽獎都甘心啦.

DSS 都要 INTERVIEW, 咁相信小朋友程度冇咁參差, 估計係教學上會比較方便.
只係個人想法..

[ 本帖最後由 meowmeow 於 10-5-20 13:58 編輯 ]
作者: hohoho8    時間: 10-5-20 15:56

BUT... when i say alot of people hesitate to leave it to 'luck'... in reality we are the minority...

i estimate about 4000-5000 kids play the dss/private interview game last fall... for 2004, there were about 48XXX births in hk... so about 10% of the families feel that there's a need to do something more than trust in luck since financially they can support more...  and there's a bunch that goes thru the international stream (who's parents have a different thinking and can afford even more!)...  SO, there r MANY parents, maybe roughly 70-80% (3X,XXX) of all families DO just go by the central allocation system only, by choice or not...

for discussion only.... in the end 都係過唔過到自己果關

原帖由 hohoho8 於 10-5-20 13:27 發表
like charlotte_mom said....至於抽獎 (gov schools), 好命水的話誇區都入到超名校, 唔好命, 同區都可以派間無揀既俾你, 當然住邊區同選校策略可以影響結果, 但亦有好多因素控制唔到呀

of course, everyone wants t ...

作者: ziyi    時間: 10-5-20 16:18

how to got the 4000~5000

HK have 20 DSS and 40 private, and if average is 100 per school, and totally seat for DSS/Private is over 6,000

And the top application school in the last year is TSL, over 3000 students



原帖由 hohoho8 於 10-5-20 15:56 發表
BUT... when i say alot of people hesitate to leave it to 'luck'... in reality we are the minority...

i estimate about 4000-5000 kids play the dss/private interview game last fall... for 2004, there w ...

作者: hohoho8    時間: 10-5-20 16:31

let me write again... 'i estimate'

for popular boys schools (eg yw and dbs) about 2xxx applications, and i would guess the same for girl schools (eg gh and dgjs)... of course tsl have 3XXX but it is coed! and some people (like myself) didn't applied to tsl.

and even if 6000... or 3000... we are still the minority, right?

原帖由 ziyi 於 10-5-20 16:18 發表
how to got the 4000~5000

HK have 20 DSS and 40 private, and if average is 100 per school, and totally seat for DSS/Private is over 6,000

And the top application school in the last year is TSL, over  ...

作者: ziyi    時間: 10-5-20 16:51

yes, you are right, both is estimate

but just 八卦 to know how to estimate only

if let you unhappy, sorry


原帖由 hohoho8 於 10-5-20 16:31 發表
let me write again... 'i estimate'

for popular boys schools (eg yw and dbs) about 2xxx applications, and i would guess the same for girl schools (eg gh and dgjs)... of course tsl have 3XXX but it is  ...

作者: easydad    時間: 10-5-20 16:54

Going to good public school depends much on luck unless have brothers or sisters already in the targeted schools or hv those extra 20 pts due to parents connection (teacher, board).  

This is why many parents go seek places at DSS/private schools first.  In a way, we all hope to have more control over our kids "destiny" if chance permits.  


作者: hohoho8    時間: 10-5-20 16:55

oh, don't worry about it... no unhappy feeling la... such a small thing...

do you have another way to estimate... please share :)

原帖由 ziyi 於 10-5-20 16:51 發表
yes, you are right, both is estimate

but just 八卦 to know how to estimate only

if let you unhappy, sorry



作者: ziyi    時間: 10-5-20 17:11

Sorry, no ar

I only focus 3~5 DSS/Private, and my child is girl that mean I don't looking for DBS, YW ....etc

So I don't have any idea, just know total 60 DSS/Private in HK.


原帖由 hohoho8 於 10-5-20 16:55 發表
oh, don't worry about it... no unhappy feeling la... such a small thing...

do you have another way to estimate... please share :)

作者: To_Ma    時間: 10-5-26 13:31

原帖由 ziyi 於 10-5-20 17:11 發表
Sorry, no ar

I only focus 3~5 DSS/Private, and my child is girl that mean I don't looking for DBS, YW ....etc

So I don't have any idea, just know total 60 DSS/Private in HK.   

...
Just getting to search if there is DSS/ private school for a back up in prior to play lucky draw, it seems difficult to evaluate what is "學校既理念同家長好吻合"???  It seems any mission/ vision can applies every kids as all aims to develope them overall life.
作者: sampapa    時間: 10-5-26 17:36     標題: 回覆 17# To_Ma 的文章

My son is studying in DSS school.
For my case.
For P.1 place, my first choice is govt school not DSS.
My target govt school is not top or famous school, just walking within 5 min.
In Round 1, I have 15 points only.
Result is fail, I am no lunck.
On the same time, I applied some DSS before round 1, even TSL and famous school, all accepted my son.
I think, I am no luck on Round 2, and all accepted DSS is good and famous.
I told to my friend which DSS accepted my son. My friend told me, any one of these DSS is dream school for her.
My friend told me that ,If possible,
"Can I use your targeted govt school place exchanged to anyone of accepted DSS place."
My son is happy and enjoy school life in this DSS. No or less workload on homework, dictation or exam.
Other schoolmate of my son's kg,
Homework is more and heavy, use 2 hour or more daily.
Dictation is weekly for CHI or ENG.
Examination or quiz is extra workload for parent.
At the end, I think, I am lucky for failure in Round 1.
作者: To_Ma    時間: 10-5-27 13:06

原帖由 sampapa 於 10-5-26 17:36 發表
My son is studying in DSS school.
For my case.
For P.1 place, my first choice is govt school not DSS.
My target govt school is not top or famous school, just walking within 5 min.
In Round 1, I have 1 ...
Thanks for sharing.  In fact, i'll  let my son to try interview DSS, but wouldn't put pressure on him.  As i can't control his interview performance.  But want to let him have some experience to face interviewer which may useful in future.
作者: chunheimama    時間: 10-5-27 13:27

原帖由 meowmeow 於 10-5-20 13:54 發表
其實選擇DSS 可能係:
1.  自己同另外一半以前讀個間小學麻麻地.
2.  冇宗教分
3.  居住地區校網麻麻或競爭好大, 而又唔容許搬屋.
4.  覺得抽獎比較被動
5.  一向冇咩抽獎命...
6.  學校既理念同家長好吻合.

另外可 ...


好似講緊我咁.
1.           我本身係女校, 而另一半果間變咗津貼國際英小
2 - 6       全中

另外可...   都全中呀!
作者: sampapa    時間: 10-5-27 13:55     標題: 回覆 19# To_Ma 的文章

Manner is important. (Top important)
Common sence in question.
Show your interest in this school.
Provide image to interviewer, the kid is gowth up in warn/health family.
Do not make dead air during interview.
Interviewer can 100% understanding of your kid saying.
Cantoonese, English, PTH, French is not important.
Extra public cert, activity is not important.

Good luck!
作者: Charlotte_mom    時間: 10-5-27 15:00

勁! 差唔多全中, 除左3, 因為我住12網, 但無一間岩心水(我唸我係真正既MINORITY)

原帖由 meowmeow 於 10-5-20 01:54 PM 發表
其實選擇DSS 可能係:
1.  自己同另外一半以前讀個間小學麻麻地.
2.  冇宗教分
3.  居住地區校網麻麻或競爭好大, 而又唔容許搬屋.
4.  覺得抽獎比較被動
5.  一向冇咩抽獎命...
6.  學校既理念同家長好吻合.

另外可 ...

作者: Charlotte_mom    時間: 10-5-27 15:01

如果得100人申請既私校/直資, 真係
不過事實又係好多人唔會申請私校/直資, 覺得明明有免費, 點解仲要攪咁多野LOR
原帖由 ziyi 於 10-5-20 04:18 PM 發表
how to got the 4000~5000

HK have 20 DSS and 40 private, and if average is 100 per school, and totally seat for DSS/Private is over 6,000

And the top application school in the last year is TSL, over  ...

作者: Charlotte_mom    時間: 10-5-27 15:15

我以前都唔信呢下野, 我都會覺得"車, 鬼唔知見人講人話, 見鬼講鬼話, 間間學校都係好架啦"
而家女女讀左幾年小學, 真係知道有分別了
例如:
~小朋友見老師唔岩當面出聲指正, 岩定唔岩
~你想小朋友見到老師, 係點頭鞠躬定攬埋去?
~活動教學, 有時課本都無, 鐘意就pop quit因為小朋友學左就應該識, test左家長至知, 家長接唔接受先?
~拔尖就好多學校都做到, 補底呢?
~要做project, 家長要陪跑(無可能expect小學生應搵晒理解下安排晒掛? 識晒就唔駛學啦, 家長都要幫手sort下資料掛?), 家長會唔會覺得無從入手又side時間?
~學校透明度重唔重要先? 真係有學校10年都係同一飯商同一校巴, 從來唔會review, 你覺得呢d重唔重要?
重有好多.........記住無一間學校係perfect的, 做到a, 自然就欠缺左b, 你自己心中priority點排?
原帖由 To_Ma 於 10-5-26 01:31 PM 發表
Just getting to search if there is DSS/ private school for a back up in prior to play lucky draw, it seems difficult to evaluate what is "學校既理念同家長好吻合"???  It seems any mission/ vision can a ...

作者: ziyi    時間: 10-5-27 15:19

唔駛,我說的是平均每間直資有多少位,唔係多少人申請

像HKGUA有120個位
而LOGOS有200個位
但拔小(舊)的只有2班共60個位

斷估的,所以就算申請直資的人來來去去都是同一批人,斷估都唔會少過總學額啦

只計TSL都超過3000人申請  



原帖由 Charlotte_mom 於 10-5-27 15:01 發表
如果得100人申請既私校/直資, 真係
不過事實又係好多人唔會申請私校/直資, 覺得明明有免費, 點解仲要攪咁多野LOR

作者: ziyi    時間: 10-5-27 15:25

基本上一定中最少4樣啦
這樣寫同江湖術士差不多
但我都差不多中晒


原帖由 Charlotte_mom 於 10-5-27 15:00 發表
勁! 差唔多全中, 除左3, 因為我住12網, 但無一間岩心水(我唸我係真正既MINORITY)

作者: phpyma    時間: 10-5-27 15:57     標題: 回覆 5# Charlotte_mom 的文章

Charlotte_mom,

個個都話 12 網校網超好, 點解你話冇一間岩你心水? 可否分享下 12 網的好/壞學校? Thanks.
作者: ziyi    時間: 10-5-27 17:09

你沒有看她怎樣說她女兒嗎



原帖由 phpyma 於 10-5-27 15:57 發表
Charlotte_mom,

個個都話 12 網校網超好, 點解你話冇一間岩你心水? 可否分享下 12 網的好/壞學校? Thanks.

作者: traeh    時間: 10-5-27 18:11

其實唔駛中晒,中一條都夠~~ 學校既理念同家長好吻合;又或者覺得去個間係對個小朋友最好最適合。

例如你覺得老牌名校資源好往績佳(男女拔、聖保羅男女等),或者新派直資教學方法同環境最適合自己小朋友(我估好似charlotte mom揀港同?),咁樣,就算你有三十分直入喇沙/瑪利諾,你都未必去啦。

原帖由 ziyi 於 10-5-27 15:25 發表
基本上一定中最少4樣啦
這樣寫同江湖術士差不多
但我都差不多中晒



作者: preciousstone    時間: 10-5-27 21:09

Charlotte_mom, 請問點樣可以準備好些?

原帖由 Charlotte_mom 於 10-5-12 09:45 發表
係呀, 考私校直資都要睇下小朋友咩料得架, 如果超班既, 考10間收10間, 準備不足, 可能考十幾間一個offer都無, 而家d學校, 10個人爭一個位已經叫"少"!

至於抽獎, 好命水的話誇區都入到超名校, 唔好命, 同區都可以派 ...

作者: Charlotte_mom    時間: 10-5-28 00:34

陪小朋友睇多d課外書, 而家幾乎間間都實考睇中英文書, 新思維學校考埋表達應對, 如果小朋友可以流暢講到一個完整故事, 實有分加啦
就算傳統學校, 都鐘意揀父母願意花時間陪小朋友, 睇書絕對係重點項目, 好多課外知識都係咁學返黎(我女k3已經識講白血球負責打細菌, 所以佢發燒喇)
另外要培訓小朋友表達同組織力, 而家好多學校都鐘意玩下紙上遊戲, 連線呀, 砌puzzle, find the difference等, 學野唔一定要"谷", 最緊要玩得投入
語言底子, 基本英文普通話都要準備下了
原帖由 preciousstone 於 10-5-27 09:09 PM 發表
Charlotte_mom, 請問點樣可以準備好些?

作者: preciousstone    時間: 10-6-5 11:40

Thanks! 我小朋友 d 英文同普通話都唔得,chance 可能好細

原帖由 Charlotte_mom 於 10-5-28 00:34 發表
陪小朋友睇多d課外書, 而家幾乎間間都實考睇中英文書, 新思維學校考埋表達應對, 如果小朋友可以流暢講到一個完整故事, 實有分加啦
就算傳統學校, 都鐘意揀父母願意花時間陪小朋友, 睇書絕對係重點項目, 好多課外知識 ...





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