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作者: hrvman 時間: 10-5-10 00:19 標題: 如果入唔到ESF小學，可以入咩。

大家好。我係一個三歲幾小朋友爸爸。個女而家晌青衣ESF讀Ｋ１。

我唔知道入ＥＳＦ小學嘅機會有幾大，但係就想準備一下先。

究竟如果ESF小學唔收，係咪只可以讀其他國際學校？定係報本地學校都得？如果報本地學校，咁地址咪好緊要？同埋入本地學校咪要學好多嘢做Resume呀？

我Ｄ問題可以好無聊，但呢樹係我唯一搵到答案嘅地方。

唔該哂。

作者: happycj 時間: 10-5-10 00:29

Education bureau would make sure one seat from subsidized school/govt school be given to your kid after K3 [this is something related to what you hear about lucky draw, marks count.]

You can also apply for your kid DSS/private schools [ESF should go to this category]

作者: hrvman 時間: 10-5-10 00:33

但係ＥＳＦ讀到Ｋ２就要上小學，如果上唔到咁係咪要出去讀Ｋ３？

作者: sampapa 時間: 10-5-10 00:37

ESF is road to Top Band ONE school even DSS/Private.

作者: hrvman 時間: 10-5-10 00:40

But it is not guaranteed the kid can enter their primary school. I mean just in case my girl performs very bad in the interview and they don't accept, what should I do?

原帖由 sampapa 於 10-5-10 00:37 發表
ESF is road to Top Band ONE school even DSS/Private.

作者: happycj 時間: 10-5-10 00:44

Sorry I forgot ESF has only 2 years Kindergarten! I don't know the answer. I suggest you call Ed Bureau of how to handle this kind of scenario during K2-K3. It seems there are two questions here:

1. How easy it is to get into K3 of another kindergarten [would Ed Bureau give the kid a seat]?
2. Can you still participate Education Bureau P1 assignment if you already go to ESF year 1?

作者: hrvman 時間: 10-5-10 00:49

I am actually considering renting an apartment in network 34 or 41, but 41 is really expensive to have an acceptable apartment there. i also heard a lot of people are borrowing address. Do you think it is worthy to live in 34/41 so my girl can have chance to get into better school there?

Any other suggestion?

Thanks,

作者: hrvman 時間: 10-5-10 09:25

其實係咪如果目標係DSS/private, 地址唔係一個問題?

地址只係luckydraw 或入本地名校時先用?

作者: sampapa 時間: 10-5-10 09:37 標題: 回覆 8# hrvman 的文章

Yes,
Address is no use for DSS/Private.
Only for P1 luckydarw.

作者: monkey05 時間: 10-5-10 09:50

原帖由 hrvman 於 10-5-10 09:25 發表
其實係咪如果目標係DSS/private, 地址唔係一個問題?

地址只係luckydraw 或入本地名校時先用?

你可以咁講.

作者: monkey05 時間: 10-5-10 09:52

hrvman,

有一個問題想問你, esf 幼稚園是不是全英文教學, 無中文的 ? 如果係, 再找local 的讀 k3 都對呀小朋友幾有難度.

作者: reneeleung 時間: 10-5-10 09:55

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作者: hrvman 時間: 10-5-10 10:06

對.係冇中文堂嘅. 講中文都仲OK因為屋企主要講中文, 但認同寫完全唔得, 除非父母好有時間恆心去教. ESF有課外普通話堂可以報D, 但都係冇認字寫字.

我就係驚接唔到去LOCAL就煩. 加埋佢地教學方法唔係坐定定, LOCAL學校佢可能好唔鍾意..

原帖由 monkey05 於 10-5-10 09:52 發表
hrvman,

有一個問題想問你, esf 幼稚園是不是全英文教學, 無中文的 ? 如果係, 再找local 的讀 k3 都對呀小朋友幾有難度.

作者: hrvman 時間: 10-5-10 10:08

入其他國際小一係咪都要完成K3先得? 定係K2可以報?

原帖由 reneeleung 於 10-5-10 09:55 發表
My suggestion:

1. Repeating K2 in TY ESF to wait interview for ESF or local pri next year;
2. Finding a place in local K3 to prepare local syllabus including Chinese;

Renee

作者: monkey05 時間: 10-5-10 10:49

原帖由 hrvman 於 10-5-10 10:06 發表
對.係冇中文堂嘅. 講中文都仲OK因為屋企主要講中文, 但認同寫完全唔得, 除非父母好有時間恆心去教. ESF有課外普通話堂可以報D, 但都係冇認字寫字.

我就係驚接唔到去LOCAL就煩. 加埋佢地教學方法唔係坐定定, LOCAL學 ...

是的, 如要接去LOCAL, 最煩係無中文, 因K3的中文已教同寫左好多, 有D 幼稚園要寫短句子了, 到時先追都幾係野. 你不如咁啦, 想有兩手準備, 襯佢而家仲細3歲多, 自己開始教佢認中文字同比D 功課佢寫下, 同佢打下底, 萬一到時你想佢讀LOCAL 時都唔會太難追, 咁最好當然係接上 ESF 小學就不用煩啦. 但有時D 野好難講架MA, 到時不是最心儀, 你又想佢多條出路, 唯有, 而家自己下D 功夫囉.

我小朋友現在讀 N, 不過, 是LOCAL 幼稚園, 都開始要認中文字了.

作者: hrvman 時間: 10-5-10 11:01

其實外面有冇D課程幫呢類國際學校學生學中文? 父母都要返工,跟本好少時間可以教到個細路. 而且晌屋企跟本冇可能坐定定聽我教, 寫兩隻字就走咗去.

原帖由 monkey05 於 10-5-10 10:49 發表

是的, 如要接去LOCAL, 最煩係無中文, 因K3的中文已教同寫左好多, 有D 幼稚園要寫短句子了, 到時先追都幾係野. 你不如咁啦, 想有兩手準備, 襯佢而家仲細3歲多, 自己開始教佢認中文字同比D 功課佢寫下, 同佢打下底 ...

作者: monkey05 時間: 10-5-10 11:13

原帖由 hrvman 於 10-5-10 11:01 發表
其實外面有冇D課程幫呢類國際學校學生學中文? 父母都要返工,跟本好少時間可以教到個細路. 而且晌屋企跟本冇可能坐定定聽我教, 寫兩隻字就走咗去.

...

我聽過朋友講, 係有的, 她的女兒番學太過遊雲, 好多中文字都無法入腦, 最後, 都係出去上認字班學番識.

作者: ziyi 時間: 10-5-10 11:16

兩手準備好一些,始終ESF的小學的學額較幼稚園的少,而且也有機會收其他學校的學生.

建議考慮埋其他的international school小學部,如果經濟能力許可的話

因有很多的international school的幼稚園也與ESF一樣是K1 & K2,然後升小學部.

學中文可以當bonus

原帖由 monkey05 於 10-5-10 10:49 發表

是的, 如要接去LOCAL, 最煩係無中文, 因K3的中文已教同寫左好多, 有D 幼稚園要寫短句子了, 到時先追都幾係野. 你不如咁啦, 想有兩手準備, 襯佢而家仲細3歲多, 自己開始教佢認中文字同比D 功課佢寫下, 同佢打下底 ...

作者: hsbmama 時間: 10-5-10 11:21

Hi hrvman,

I have heard that tsing yi esf does have k3 for kids who couldn't get back into esf primary to join the traditional stream allocation. I think you can try other international school also but they are even more expensive then esf.

Actually, I quite agree with monkey05, the biggest problem going back to traditional stream is the chinese reading and writing, and the amount of homework. A course on the side will definitely help with the chinese problem. Also, while applying for the dss or private schools, you might want to try the active learning schools which has less demand on homework, and probably more time for your child to catch up on the chinese during the first few years of primary... eg. pui kui, wong kam fai, hkuga, cky...

Good luck to you!

原帖由 hrvman 於 10-5-10 11:01 發表
其實外面有冇D課程幫呢類國際學校學生學中文? 父母都要返工,跟本好少時間可以教到個細路. 而且晌屋企跟本冇可能坐定定聽我教, 寫兩隻字就走咗去.

...

[ 本帖最後由 hsbmama 於 10-5-10 11:22 編輯 ]

作者: hrvman 時間: 10-5-10 11:33

咁可能要用暑假參加啲認字班. 寫唔到都認得先. 中國人點可以唔識中文. 第人比鬼佬用國語笑.

原帖由 hsbmama 於 10-5-10 11:21 發表
Hi hrvman,

I have heard that tsing yi esf does have k3 for kids who couldn't get back into esf primary to join the traditional stream allocation. I think you can try other international school also ...

作者: sampapa 時間: 10-5-10 11:45

Many DSS/private is using English or other language as main media.
Chinese is a bonus.
Therefore, you have many choice for kid rather ESF only.
Do not worry.
My kid school is study in english school.
Chinese is not important.

作者: hrvman 時間: 10-5-10 11:59

Sampapa, 咁你有冇特別去教小朋友寫中文? 你唔擔心日後佢唔識中文出黎做嘢好難咩? 尤其是中國發展好快唔識中文好蝕底.

原帖由 sampapa 於 10-5-10 11:45 發表
Many DSS/private is using English or other language as main media.
Chinese is a bonus.
Therefore, you have many choice for kid rather ESF only.
Do not worry.
My kid school is study in english school.
...

作者: sampapa 時間: 10-5-10 12:18 標題: 回覆 22# hrvman 的文章

We are chinese and born in HK.
The golden period for learning langauge is 0~9 yrs old.
One language in one period.
No mixed different language in same period.
Chinese is teaching in Estate KG, and playing some chinese word game at home.
After 1 yr, my kid chinese is good as English.

作者: hrvman 時間: 10-5-10 12:33

我好驚個細路變咗歐陽靖咁只係識講..

原帖由 sampapa 於 10-5-10 12:18 發表
We are chinese and born in HK.
The golden period for learning langauge is 0~9 yrs old.
One language in one period.
No mixed different language in same period.
Chinese is teaching in Estate KG, and pla ...

作者: monkey05 時間: 10-5-10 14:25

原帖由 hrvman 於 10-5-10 11:33 發表
咁可能要用暑假參加啲認字班. 寫唔到都認得先. 中國人點可以唔識中文. 第人比鬼佬用國語笑.

咁你呀講得對呀 ~ "中國人點可以唔識中文", 真係唔識寫都要識認, 細個唔學, 大個左有選擇下就未必願學了, 因為中文字始終較英文難. 仲有就係唔好話十幾廿年後hk 會變成點, 而家都已經係大6 佬話事既年代, 唔識pth 同中文真係幾難搵食. 更何況係我地既下一代呢. 所以, 你有概念讓小朋友而家學番認字是絕對正確的. 把握6歲前的黃金時間吧. 3歲幾唔會mix up 語言的了. 中英普一起學也可以.

[ 本帖最後由 monkey05 於 10-5-10 14:35 編輯 ]

作者: hrvman 時間: 10-5-10 15:05

今個星期六就去試吓KID CASTLE 個認字班.

作者: ziyi 時間: 10-5-10 15:34

放心啦,小朋友很快適應的.只要你唔好任由小朋友,陪小朋友讀寫多一些就一定可以追得到
但其實我囡囡上午返的學校是中文幼稚園,也有一些mix的跟pure的都去讀,就是為了小朋友能從小接觸中文
我就相反,下午再俾囡囡返英文幼稚園

原帖由 hrvman 於 10-5-10 15:05 發表
今個星期六就去試吓KID CASTLE 個認字班.

作者: hrvman 時間: 10-5-10 16:34

ziyi,
嘩..上下晝都要讀咪好辛苦?

有冇再學其他嘢?

原帖由 ziyi 於 10-5-10 15:34 發表
放心啦,小朋友很快適應的.只要你唔好任由小朋友,陪小朋友讀寫多一些就一定可以追得到
但其實我囡囡上午返的學校是中文幼稚園,也有一些mix的跟pure的都去讀,就是為了小朋友能從小接觸中文
我就相反,下午再俾囡囡返英 ...

作者: ziyi 時間: 10-5-10 16:56

OK啦,她自己也喜歡返,當返全日制,不過唔同學校

而且也有如珠心算等學.可以補不足

原帖由 hrvman 於 10-5-10 16:34 發表
ziyi,
嘩..上下晝都要讀咪好辛苦?

有冇再學其他嘢?

作者: flostangraphy 時間: 10-5-11 11:46

hello hrvman,
i do understand your concern, we do have quite a lot of friends from where we live who have children failed the interviews for esf primary.... which the children were in tsing yi esf before as well.
some of them double the year of k2 and re try the year after. others put them into international school.
i would also suggest a year of international stream k3 in a local kindergarten. like logos, learning habitat, tivoli kindergarten... and target a dss english primary school like smc, tsl.... the year after.

you should also try to apply cky at the same time as esf, cky is also in IB system.

please noted that the esf in tong chung is a bit easier to apply than kowloon junior as well (or better say kowloon junior is more difficult....

原帖由 hrvman 於 10/5/2010 11:01 發表
其實外面有冇D課程幫呢類國際學校學生學中文? 父母都要返工,跟本好少時間可以教到個細路. 而且晌屋企跟本冇可能坐定定聽我教, 寫兩隻字就走咗去.

...

[ 本帖最後由 flostangraphy 於 10-5-11 11:48 編輯 ]

作者: Yau_Cheung 時間: 10-5-11 15:16

究竟如果ESF小學

唔收，係咪只可以讀其他國際學校？- 因為ESF kinder 唔係直升 ESF primary，所以大部份家長都會報埋 ESF PIS (RC & DC)，及報多幾間其他 IS 作 back up。

定係報本地學校都得？如果報本地學校，咁地址咪好緊要？ - ESF primary, ESF PIS & 大部份 IS 都係完成 reception / K2 入讀，所以大部份都係 reception / K2 or 以前報讀；local primary 係完成 K3 入讀，大部份係 K3報讀。

同埋入本地學校咪要學好多嘢做Resume呀？ - 其實 resume 不算太重要，主要係小朋友表現。

原帖由 hrvman 於 10-5-10 00:19 發表
大家好。我係一個三歲幾小朋友爸爸。個女而家晌青衣ESF讀Ｋ１。

我唔知道入ＥＳＦ小學嘅機會有幾大，但係就想準備一下先。

究竟如果ESF小學唔收，係咪只可以讀其他國際學校？定係報本地學校都得？如果報本地學校，咁地址咪好緊要？同埋入 ...

作者: Yau_Cheung 時間: 10-5-11 15:25

加埋佢地教學方法唔係坐定定, LOCAL學校佢可能好唔鍾意.. - 呢個係事實(especially traditional primary)，始終"魚與熊掌，不可兼得"；不過部份活動教學+小班的 local private school / DSS 都可以考慮。

原帖由 hrvman 於 10-5-10 10:06 發表
對.係冇中文堂嘅. 講中文都仲OK因為屋企主要講中文, 但認同寫完全唔得, 除非父母好有時間恆心去教. ESF有課外普通話堂可以報D, 但都係冇認字寫字.

我就係驚接唔到去LOCAL就煩. 加埋佢地教學方法唔係坐定定, LOCAL學 ...

作者: Yau_Cheung 時間: 10-5-11 15:37

如果留係 ESF 一直讀完 secondary，都有機會會"只係識講"中文。其實所有 IS 學生學中文都主要係靠家庭 support。

原帖由 hrvman 於 10-5-10 12:33 發表
我好驚個細路變咗歐陽靖咁只係識講..

作者: Yau_Cheung 時間: 10-5-11 15:41

其實都唔少小朋友 K1 & K2 返2間 kinders (1間 local, 1間 IS), especially 未決定將來係 IS path or local path。

原帖由 ziyi 於 10-5-10 16:56 發表
OK啦,她自己也喜歡返,當返全日制,不過唔同學校

而且也有如珠心算等學.可以補不足

作者: ziyi 時間: 10-5-11 15:51

我重以為我比較特別

,原來跟人口水尾

講笑而已,我這打算唔係因為打算多D選擇,是按照實際需要

我囡囡跟我非常喜歡她上午的local那間,老師有愛心

但下午那間....比較勢利

只不過,兩公婆要返工,如果俾佢返play group,那倒不如俾佢返一間下午英文的

原帖由 Yau_Cheung 於 10-5-11 15:41 發表
其實都唔少小朋友 K1 & K2 返2間 kinders (1間 local, 1間 IS), especially 未決定將來係 IS path or local path。

作者: hrvman 時間: 10-5-11 15:56

Thanks Flostangraphy.

If I want to apply KJS, do i need to have a kowloon address?

原帖由 flostangraphy 於 10-5-11 11:46 發表
hello hrvman,
i do understand your concern, we do have quite a lot of friends from where we live who have children failed the interviews for esf primary.... which the children were in tsing yi esf be ...

作者: hrvman 時間: 10-5-11 15:58

返哂成日仲好啦, 唔洗驚佢晌屋企無無聊聊.

原帖由 ziyi 於 10-5-11 15:51 發表
我重以為我比較特別 ,原來跟人口水尾

講笑而已,我這打算唔係因為打算多D選擇,是按照實際需要

我囡囡跟我非常喜歡她上午的local那間,老師有愛心

但下午那間....比較勢利

只不過,兩公婆要返工,如果 ...

作者: flostangraphy 時間: 10-5-11 19:12

唔駛. 只看interviews表現.

原帖由 hrvman 於 11/5/2010 15:56 發表
Thanks Flostangraphy.

If I want to apply KJS, do i need to have a kowloon address?

作者: hrvman 時間: 10-5-11 23:32

我以為有什麼CATCHMAN ZONE之類的東西。

原帖由 flostangraphy 於 10-5-11 19:12 發表
唔駛. 只看interviews表現.

作者: Yau_Cheung 時間: 10-5-11 23:33

KJS is one of ESF primary schools. To apply KJS, you should live in the catchment area of KJS. Please refer to ESF website regarding the catchment area.

原帖由 flostangraphy 於 10-5-11 19:12 發表
唔駛. 只看interviews表現.

作者: Yau_Cheung 時間: 10-5-11 23:35

The answer is yes.

原帖由 hrvman 於 10-5-11 15:56 發表
Thanks Flostangraphy.

If I want to apply KJS, do i need to have a kowloon address?

作者: hrvman 時間: 10-5-11 23:52

佢地個網邊頁有CATCHMAN AREA？搵來搵去都唔見。

THANKS。

原帖由 Yau_Cheung 於 10-5-11 23:33 發表
KJS is one of ESF primary schools. To apply KJS, you should live in the catchment area of KJS. Please refer to ESF website regarding the catchment area.

作者: flostangraphy 時間: 10-5-12 01:45

oh. really?!
sorry for the wrong information....

原帖由 Yau_Cheung 於 11/5/2010 23:35 發表
The answer is yes.

作者: bakusensei 時間: 10-5-12 10:05

原帖由 hrvman 於 10-5-11 23:52 發表
佢地個網邊頁有CATCHMAN AREA？搵來搵去都唔見。

THANKS。

For KJS:
"
Zone: Areas south-west of Cherry Street and Ferry Street, the east side of Nathan Road to Boundary Street, including Yau Yat Chuen, then eastwards to the Choi Hung interchange. Areas south of Clearwater Bay Road, including Diamond Hill, Hammer Hill, Kowloon Bay, Telford Gardens, Lam Tin (excluding Sceneway Gardens which is Clearwater Bay School), Yau Tong, Ma Wan, Tung Chung and Laguna City, but excluding Tseung Kwan O."

source: http://www.esf.edu.hk/our-schools/primary/kowloon-junior-school

作者: hrvman 時間: 10-5-12 11:16

Thanks very much.

個catchment area 都好大下

作者: ziyi 時間: 10-5-12 11:39

catchment area,我無記錯我有一個Church的牧師從外國transfer過來Hong Kong,帶了其中一位千金,教會俾他住青山公路的apartment.

而他替千金報的就因為catchment area關係要報HK Island那邊.所以好睇那一間

原帖由 hrvman 於 10-5-12 11:16 發表
Thanks very much.

個catchment area 都好大下

作者: cheungcarla 時間: 10-5-23 22:46

English primary school maybe easier for her

歡迎光臨教育王國 (/)