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標題: DGJS 與 CKY [打印本頁]
作者: wingsma 時間: 10-2-14 22:51 標題: DGJS 與 CKY
一向心儀DGJS, 最近看過CKY的開放日，很欣賞學生在小壓力和愉快的氣氛下，也能有很出色的表現。可能成績未必達到頂尖，但卻可換來快樂的童年。是否值得呢？
兩校的成績又如何比較呢？
請指教。
[ 本帖最後由 wingsma 於 10-3-6 03:21 編輯 ]
作者: vet 時間: 10-2-15 01:42
如小朋友有能力, 肯讀書一定揀DGJS,
如小朋友好動, 坐唔定, 唔太肯讀書就CKY
DGJS好難考, 收你先諗都未遲。
作者: fatgoat 時間: 10-2-15 15:27
同意最後個句， "DGJS好難考, 收你先諗都未遲。"
同時，如果求穩陣，應該係DGJS, CKY只不過開了十年，第一屆GCSE未有成績，IBD又未囉到。
原帖由 vet 於 10-2-15 01:42 發表 
如小朋友有能力, 肯讀書一定揀DGJS,
如小朋友好動, 坐唔定, 唔太肯讀書就CKY
DGJS好難考, 收你先諗都未遲。
[ 本帖最後由 fatgoat 於 10-2-15 15:29 編輯 ]
作者: 已刪除用戶 時間: 10-2-15 20:40
有d小朋友細細個已經對自己好高要求, 有晒planning知道自己要d咩, 點去achieve, 呢類小朋友入dgjs真係如魚得水
如果小朋友爭勝既心唔強, 讀cky應該會開心d
原帖由 wingsma 於 10-2-14 10:51 PM 發表
一向心儀DGJS, 最近看過CKY的開放日，很欣賞學生在小壓力和愉快的氣氛下，也能有很出色的表演。可能成績未必達到頂尖，但卻可換來快樂的童年。是否值得呢？
兩校的成績又如何比較呢？
請指教。 ...
作者: MAMAMEEE 時間: 10-2-15 23:11
原帖由 fatgoat 於 10-2-15 15:27 發表
同意最後個句， "DGJS好難考, 收你先諗都未遲。"
同時，如果求穩陣，應該係DGJS, CKY只不過開了十年，第一屆GCSE未有成績，IBD又未囉到。
CKY都好出名, 但當然vs DGJS會易考好多, 請問知唔知兩者係幾多個報考收幾多位?
作者: wingsma 時間: 10-2-16 19:55
聽講dg二千人考，收108人，cky千二人考，收155人。
作者: vet 時間: 10-2-16 22:24
好多人考到CKY都唔去讀
但冇セ人考到DGS而唔讀
作者: lui 時間: 10-2-17 14:37
My girl is a student of CKY.
DGJS is no doubt the best school in Hong Kong.So it is not surprising that very few of the girls will reject the offer from her. CKY is a good school with a new teaching approach, so it is not surprising that a certain number of students/parents will give up the offer as they may concern about the standard (as no track record of public exam).
原帖由 vet 於 10-2-16 22:24 發表
好多人考到CKY都唔去讀
但冇セ人考到DGS而唔讀
作者: poison 時間: 10-2-18 00:54 標題: 可否分享一下 CKY的教學模式及學習情況
Hi Lui,
我有去最近CKY的開放日，見小一學生的作品內容十分深。當然相信家長一同參與製作才有如此效果。但我想問究竟學生是否真的明白及理解他作品的內容？對其他人的作品，學生又是否明白及有作出討論或研究呢？課程並不是越深越好，而是要學生明白及理解並加以運用。若學生做了作品，卻不理解內容或其中原理，則達不到學生的本質了。請問你的女兒的學習情況如何呢？
poison 
原帖由 lui 於 2010-2-17 14:37 發表
My girl is a student of CKY.
DGJS is no doubt the best school in Hong Kong.So it is not surprising that very few of the girls will reject the offer from her. CKY is a good school with a new teaching ...
作者: kyliema2006 時間: 10-2-18 10:21
呢樣我都有所感受，課程深但孩子不明白祇會是浪費大家的時間。雖然我並不太曉得你說的作品是那些，可能是science projects又或是其它，若是說science project，學生是需要向所有同學面前present自己的作品，亦會被老師及同學問問題。由搜集材料到做model，再做presentation，孩子都一定要明白箇中內容的，否則老師很容易會知道的。我的孩子現在已是四年級了，現在做project，找題材到搜集材料就是他一人包辦，可能仍未能掌握presentation flow，即是有齊材料，但唔識落鑊，那我們會與他討論大綱流程應如何。到中學時，家長基本上已經全都退役了。
但若你指的是課程內容艱深，我都會覺得很神奇，孩子如何會記得的，好像今年英文教Middle Ages，所教的內容及生字其實頗艱深的，但在觀課時所見，很多同學都會懂。孩子要讀得好，相信是靠平時多閱讀所致。
原帖由 poison 於 10-2-18 00:54 發表
Hi Lui,
我有去最近CKY的開放日，見小一學生的作品內容十分深。當然相信家長一同參與製作才有如此效果。但我想問究竟學生是否真的明白及理解他作品的內容？對其他人的作品，學生又是否明白及有作出討論或研究呢？課程並不是 ...
[ 本帖最後由 kyliema2006 於 10-2-18 10:37 編輯 ]
作者: lui 時間: 10-2-18 12:02
Hi Poison
My girl has been studied in CKY for five months (insert in p2).
I didn't go to P1 Classroom but i bet what you have seen are the science projects. To share my view, the school would like to let the student know how to do a project, where the topic not necessarily being taught at school. However, the school provides a very clear guide for how the project is done (well, it is a booklet with several pages, i admire their effort in that). Parents might take part in the whole process (more or less), of course, it is up to the parents whether they would really teach the kid what is it all about. They were given time to present in the front of the classmates, being questioned and commented on their presentation (both teacher and the student should feedback). I like the whole process. They can really learn through this. Though the things they learnt are somehow difficult,they can really learn without hesitation. They can still remember a few months later. This is a miracle.
Like Kylie2006 said, students are encouraged to read books. My girl didn't read much books before joining CKY, not interested and not have enough spare time to do so. However, the school have their "magic" to induce her to fall in love with reading. With the reading habit, my girl has been learning a lot more. Of course, proficiency in Eng and Chi is getting higher.
原帖由 poison 於 10-2-18 00:54 發表
Hi Lui,
我有去最近CKY的開放日，見小一學生的作品內容十分深。當然相信家長一同參與製作才有如此效果。但我想問究竟學生是否真的明白及理解他作品的內容？對其他人的作品，學生又是否明白及有作出討論或研究呢？課程並不是 ...
作者: Blessings 時間: 10-2-18 15:46
Of course DGJS, ty it first and if your girl can't adapt, she can still have other choices. To me, to be able to study in DGJS is the same as winning the Mark Six (with Jackpot!).
原帖由 lui 於 10-2-18 12:02 發表
Hi Poison
My girl has been studied in CKY for five months (insert in p2).
I didn't go to P1 Classroom but i bet what you have seen are the science projects. To share my view, the school would like ...
作者: EFM 時間: 10-2-19 22:31
The daughter of one of the teachers (a Miss) in CKY is studying in DGJS.
Elsa
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作者: wingsma 時間: 10-2-21 21:59
原帖由 EFM 於 10-2-19 22:31 發表
The daughter of one of the teachers (a Miss) in CKY is studying in DGJS.
Elsa
Somebody said that her daughter was admitted by DGJS but rejected by CKY. Perhaps that teacher had got the same situation!
作者: hhhc 時間: 10-2-22 03:46
Hi Lui,
I am also interested a lot in CKY, I really want my boy to study there. I heard that CKY students' oral English and PTH are excellent, how can the school train them? Does applicant needs to have a high proficiency in English and PTH before entering the school? What are the selection criteria of CKY? Many thanks for sharing.
原帖由 lui 於 10-2-18 12:02 發表
Hi Poison
My girl has been studied in CKY for five months (insert in p2).
I didn't go to P1 Classroom but i bet what you have seen are the science projects. To share my view, the school would like ...
作者: kyliema2006 時間: 10-2-22 09:42
其實我又唔覺得有甚麼大不了，始終DGS是傳統名校，大部份人都會以既然考得入，何妨入讀的心態，人之常情啦！
原帖由 wingsma 於 10-2-21 21:59 發表
Somebody said that her daughter was admitted by DGJS but rejected by CKY. Perhaps that teacher had got the same situation! [/quote]
作者: penguin_chick 時間: 10-2-26 00:21
原帖由 hhhc 於 10-2-22 03:46 發表
Hi Lui,
I am also interested a lot in CKY, I really want my boy to study there. I heard that CKY students' oral English and PTH are excellent, how can the school train them? Does applicant needs to h ...
Selection criteria of CKY:
I ‘GUESS’ the parents should have the same vision of the school.
The ability of communicate in English is an advantage, but PTH is not a must.
Sociable and obedient but active child is always the favorite of most school.
CKY students' oral English and PTH are excellent for most of the children but the teachers do not really train them, they have created an excellent atmosphere for the children and give them much changes to use ( not practice ) the both languages.
作者: bakusensei 時間: 10-2-26 11:02
原帖由 penguin_chick 於 10-2-26 00:21 發表
Selection criteria of CKY:
I ‘GUESS’ the parents should have the same vision of the school.
The ability of communicate in English is an advantage, but PTH is not a must.
Sociable and obedient but a ...
thanks penguin_chick for your valuable information. so, PTH was not tested during the interviews?
but CKY's students PTH are super brillant during the school visit!
作者: judy 時間: 10-2-26 12:19
but CKY's students PTH are super brillant during the school visit!
PTH好易学。
作者: kyliema2006 時間: 10-2-26 14:44
對，祇要有一個適當的學習環境，提供足夠講及聆聽的機會，PTH一定係好易學。
原帖由 judy 於 10-2-26 12:19 發表
PTH好易学。
作者: judy 時間: 10-2-26 18:08
原帖由 kyliema2006 於 10-2-26 14:44 發表
對，祇要有一個適當的學習環境，提供足夠講及聆聽的機會，PTH一定係好易學。
又要適當的學習環境，又要提供足夠講及聆聽的機會，咁點算易啫？
曹仁超都可提受中央台訪問啦！我認為現在有普通話堂的中小學生，長大後，如要到大陸工作，將"廣東話講歪啲"，足以應付了。
作者: penguin_chick 時間: 10-2-26 21:53
原帖由 bakusensei 於 10-2-26 11:02 發表
thanks penguin_chick for your valuable information. so, PTH was not tested during the interviews?
but CKY's students PTH are super brillant during the school visit!
As my daughter could remember, only English was used in the 1st interview, but in the 2nd interview, she might needed to talk to Dr Lau, the principal, in cantonese as well as in PTH. However, she said some of her class-mates could not speak in PTH at all in the beginning of P.1.
"but all P.2 students speak PTH fluently." My daughter said.
[ 本帖最後由 penguin_chick 於 10-2-26 21:54 編輯 ]
作者: hoihoima 時間: 10-2-26 23:52
Hi penguin_chick, my boy is now in K1 and CKY is one of the primary schools that I want to understand more. Can you please elaborate a bit how CKY has created a good atmosphere for the students to use English & PTH? Thanks a lot.
原帖由 penguin_chick 於 10-2-26 00:21 發表
Selection criteria of CKY:
I ‘GUESS’ the parents should have the same vision of the school.
The ability of communicate in English is an advantage, but PTH is not a must.
Sociable and obedient but a ...
作者: penguin_chick 時間: 10-2-27 17:49
原帖由 hoihoima 於 10-2-26 23:52 發表
Hi penguin_chick, my boy is now in K1 and CKY is one of the primary schools that I want to understand more. Can you please elaborate a bit how CKY has created a good atmosphere for the students to us ...
Thanks for asking, since there is still a long way, why don't you attend the seminar and ask the principal directly.
As I know, the school has about 60% net, about 70% lesson time is conducted in English. Only Chinese, PTH, moral ed. are in Chinese-Cantonese for P.1 and PTH for P.2 and above.( part of PE, art and music is in chinese.) Beside lesson time, the students are asked to talk in English on Monday, Wednesday and Friday, and in PTH on Tuesday and Thursday. Of course some kids do not follow strictly.
Another point we must not ignore, the kids are very happy and like to go to school very much, they have much chance to discuss and to present in the classrooms. The teacher student ratio is very low(20 - 28 students in a class). All of above may only be part of the elements that make a good language environment.
作者: kyliema2006 時間: 10-3-1 10:04
Okay, 我祇可以說每個人的要求都不同，將廣東話講歪ｄ就作為普通話合格的要求，我祇會一笑置之。當年我中學都學了三年普通話學，後來再補普通話，長大後到大陸工作，我都覺得非常不夠用，何況今時今日。唉！我祇會講句書到用時方恨少（語言更是）！
原帖由 judy 於 10-2-26 18:08 發表
又要適當的學習環境，又要提供足夠講及聆聽的機會，咁點算易啫？
曹仁超都可提受中央台訪問啦！我認為現在有普通話堂的中小學生，長大後，如要到大陸工作，將"廣東話講歪啲"，足以應付了。 ...
[ 本帖最後由 kyliema2006 於 10-3-1 10:27 編輯 ]
作者: dong-dong 時間: 10-3-1 11:24
今時今日﹐還抱着這樣的想法﹐大錯特錯也。當十幾二十年後﹐大陸人都可以講一口流利英文及普通話(理所當然的)時﹐而你的小朋友還操一口不三不四的普通話﹐請問你拿什么跟人家斗啊。
原帖由 judy 於 10-2-26 18:08 發表
又要適當的學習環境，又要提供足夠講及聆聽的機會，咁點算易啫？
曹仁超都可提受中央台訪問啦！我認為現在有普通話堂的中小學生，長大後，如要到大陸工作，將"廣東話講歪啲"，足以應付了。 ...
作者: ysnmama 時間: 10-3-1 14:27
如果用"廣東話講歪點"來應付. 又真的比較難以接受. 想像如大家開會時一位香港員工到大陸用"廣東話講歪點"跟客戶開會或present. 都很嚇人.
原帖由 judy 於 10-2-26 18:08 發表
又要適當的學習環境，又要提供足夠講及聆聽的機會，咁點算易啫？
曹仁超都可提受中央台訪問啦！我認為現在有普通話堂的中小學生，長大後，如要到大陸工作，將"廣東話講歪啲"，足以應付了。 ...
作者: bethetop 時間: 10-3-1 18:46 標題: 回覆 27# wingsma 的文章
hi wingsma,
真係冇人考到DGJS而唔讀, 因為事實上真係一間好學校, D女仔好outstanding, 好有自信, 如果應付到的話!!
其實個個考DGJS 既心態都係想試下自己個女有幾叻, 會吾會咁好彩入到, 根本冇考慮過本身讀吾讀得到! 最多花錢補習, that's why DGJS二千人考! 就我個女間學校為例, 差吾多全部300人都去DGJS 考吓!!!
好多人考到CKY都唔去讀, 大多係因為學費太貴. 而考CKY既家長, 第一, 小朋友英文要好, second in 係全英文, 要成本英文書好有自信咁讀哂! 吾識都要敢膽拼! 第二, 家長真係buy佢既approach同想Language 好D, 開心D, 大人小朋友都冇咁大壓力. 所以CKY千二人考.
雖然我好鍾意CKY亦都考到, 但如果比我考到DGJS, 都一定比亞囡讀DGJS, 吾得..最多P2轉校! 不過亞囡過吾到second in principle個關!
其實選擇邊間都有機會後悔! 自己吾好比大壓力比小朋友就OK 啦! 讀DGJS 都有快樂的童年嫁! 我朋友D女讀DGJS, 個個都好開心的!
作者: wingsma 時間: 10-3-1 18:49
謝謝各位的意見。題目是DGJS與CKY，單講CKY或DGJS還可接受，只講PTH就......
不過講開又講，如果你是曹仁超，點講都無所謂喇
作者: WYmom 時間: 10-3-2 09:25
Anyone can advise what's the coming school fees of CKY in 2010-11 for primary and secondary? And what's the approximate ECA and misc. fees per year? Thanks a lot.
作者: 7up 時間: 10-3-5 21:14
DGJS 和 CKY都不同級數
根本不會雙題並論
作者: wingsma 時間: 10-3-6 03:45
我們都知道DGJS的學生很BRIGHT，但考得入去的本身就已經是精英，聽聞很多學生都要補習，那麼學校對學生的成績有多少實質的幫助呢？學生在學校的生活愉快嗎？她們的增值程度與她們的工作量是否成正比呢？
至於CKY的學生，他們的雙語能力之強已得到廣泛的肯定，他們在五年級和八年級所寫的中文和英文論文，又確實使人讚嘆！加上不少人都說學生在表達能力，學習興趣都有明顯的進步，加上功課少，愉快學習，似乎學校的增值能力比很多學校都強。未知以上資料是否正確，請指教。
作者: edexp 時間: 10-3-8 10:01
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作者: kyliema2006 時間: 10-3-8 10:05
2010-2011的學費仍未公佈呢，可能到學期尾才知曉。至於小學其它雜費收費大致如下：
樂器 HKFD3-4K/年
飯盒 HKD20/個
outing HKD1K/年
書簿 HKD3K/年
原帖由 WYmom 於 10-3-2 09:25 發表
Anyone can advise what's the coming school fees of CKY in 2010-11 for primary and secondary? And what's the approximate ECA and misc. fees per year? Thanks a lot.
作者: kyliema2006 時間: 10-3-8 10:27
CKY都有學生會補習，以我非官方的了解（從家長口中），我相信一半CKY學生都不選擇補習。而補習的原因，有些是為了供孩子做功課的環境，有些就真的為提高學術的能力。但若論學生補習的比例，我大膽揣測其比例應比DGS的為低。
至於論文的程度的高低，就真的見仁見智啦！CKY的學生雖然亦有參加TSA，但成績如何，學校根本不會公佈。另一項的公開試就是澳洲的ISA，DGS亦有部份學生參加（抑或是全部學生，我不肯定），成績如何，家長應該心中有數。對於我來說，以小兒在英文及數學的表現，我會是安心的。其實我都經常與在傳統學校讀的友人比較，將CKY的學生與傳統學校相比，他們真的輕鬆到不得了了。
還有另一件事可分享，其中一個CKY推動學生學習的教法是同輩學習。CKY每年都會為學生各項功課輯錄成書，包括英文、中文、science、arts，甚至是遊學團的觀感。那些功課大部份是學生平日的功課，甚至是堂上的功課，大大減低了家長潤飾的機會。當然，選得出來的應該有一定程度，但亦可知道學生的大概程況。
作者: judy 時間: 10-3-8 10:40
原帖由 dong-dong 於 10-3-1 11:24 發表
今時今日﹐還抱着這樣的想法﹐大錯特錯也。當十幾二十年後﹐大陸人都可以講一口流利英文及普通話(理所當然的)時﹐而你的小朋友還操一口不三不四的普通話﹐請問你拿什么跟人家斗啊。
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我沒有說普通話不重要。有一朋友是一國际些公司中國部主管。在國內，除了國人外，也要和日本人，德國人打交道。佢話依家用國語，己基本可解决溝通問題。
我只是說，普通話很易學。会說普通話，不要當甚麽一回事。現在不会說的，學一下就懂了。
侄兒剛上大學，他們這一代，不是很多小學有普通話堂，中學更沒有。但他們上大陸交流，完全無問題。
作者: easybring 時間: 10-3-8 10:43
家長們, 我們是否一定要找top of the top才入讀？"足夠"已可以嗎？
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作者: mui888 時間: 10-3-8 10:54
其實揀學校就好似玩配對, 最緊要睇吓自己小朋友適合邊間? 家長可唔可以配合到學校? 有些小朋友早熟D, 遇強愈強! 但有D就要俾多D時間及鼓勵,要慢慢嚟!
講overall 成績, 相信一定係DGJS好D!
但CKY就俾好多機會唔同能力既小朋友建立自信!
作者: edexp 時間: 10-3-8 10:55
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作者: kyliema2006 時間: 10-3-8 10:58
同一件事，每個人的感受都可以很不同。妳好像都是聽說朋友的感受吧！而我就在北京及各省工作過一年，及後亦不時往返大陸，到今天的工作，眼看能說得一口流利的普通話及一口流利的英語所得的機會可能會比其它人多時，我就會覺得學【好】語文是不容易的。
原帖由 judy 於 10-3-8 10:40 發表
我沒有說普通話不重要。有一朋友是一國际些公司中國部主管。在國內，除了國人外，也要和日本人，德國人打交道。佢話依家用國語，己基本可解决溝通問題。
我只是說，普通話很易學。会說普通話，不要當甚麽一回事。現在不会說的 ...
作者: edexp 時間: 10-3-8 11:07
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作者: kyliema2006 時間: 10-3-8 11:21
可能你小朋友的功課經常被老師潤飾，才使你的感受如此之深。我可能肯定的說，小兒刋登在書冊上的功課從未被老師潤飾的。在你不肯定箇中原因時就妄下結論，祇會証明你的謬論一籮籮。
原帖由 edexp 於 10-3-8 11:07 發表
CKY每年都會為學生各項功課輯錄成書，包括英文、中文、science、arts，甚至是遊學團的觀感。那些功課大部份是學生平日的功課，甚至是堂上的功課，大大減低了家長潤飾的機會。當然，選得出來的應該有一定程度，但亦可知道學生的大 ...
作者: judy 時間: 10-3-8 11:23
原帖由 kyliema2006 於 10-3-8 10:58 發表
同一件事，每個人的感受都可以很不同。妳好像都是聽說朋友的感受吧！而我就在北京及各省工作過一年，及後亦不時往返大陸，到今天的工作，眼看能說得一口流利的普通話及一口流利的英語所得的機會可能會比其它人多時，我就會覺得學 ...
在大陸，能說得一口流利的普通話及一口流利的英語所得的機會可能會比其它人多，同意！
而在大陸，能說得一口流利的普通話，這是基本要求，機會不會比其它人多。
機会會不會比其他人多，看其有否附加值。普通話，是基本要求，又易學，附加值不高。所以不必太强調這個，也不用花咁多錢去學！
作者: mui888 時間: 10-3-8 11:35
如果你有睇過就知道作品都無潤飾過. 因文章仲有些小錯誤及見到老師的修改及評語! 不過我好鍾意學校甘好心機每年都將學生作品輯錄成書, 仲要係好多本!!!
原帖由 edexp 於 10-3-8 11:07 發表
CKY每年都會為學生各項功課輯錄成書，包括英文、中文、science、arts，甚至是遊學團的觀感。那些功課大部份是學生平日的功課，甚至是堂上的功課，大大減低了家長潤飾的機會。當然，選得出來的應該有一定程度，但亦可知道學生的大 ...
作者: kyliema2006 時間: 10-3-8 11:46
其實有很多行業對普通話的要求都越來越嚴格，教師就是一個好例子。不懂普通話的中文老師的生存空間祇會越來越狹窄，應該說能說一口流利普通話的中文老師的機會一定比不曉的多。
原帖由 judy 於 10-3-8 11:23 發表
在大陸，能說得一口流利的普通話及一口流利的英語所得的機會可能會比其它人多，同意！
而在大陸，能說得一口流利的普通話，這是基本要求，機會不會比其它人多。
機会會不會比其他人多，看其有否附加值。普通話，是基本要求，又易學 ...
作者: mui888 時間: 10-3-8 11:53
甘都係! 不過曾有大陸同事叫香港個同事唔好講國語, 講番白話, 佢地聽唔明! 個同事自覺好"瘀"!!
其實而家好多大陸人都睇唔起香港人, 大家真係要努力d增值! 香港回歸咗好耐. 我哋都應該將"說一口流利普通話" 便成基本要求!
原帖由 judy 於 10-3-8 11:23 發表
在大陸，能說得一口流利的普通話及一口流利的英語所得的機會可能會比其它人多，同意！
而在大陸，能說得一口流利的普通話，這是基本要求，機會不會比其它人多。
機会會不會比其他人多，看其有否附加值。普通話，是基本要求，又易學 ...
作者: judy 時間: 10-3-8 12:11
應該說能說一口流利普通話的中文老師的機會一定比不曉的多。...
呢啲係阿媽係女人的道理，係人都知。
我孩子讀小學時，未係普通話教中文。現在，聽說己是普通話教了，教師，都係那班教師。
中學了，校長說所有教師都有資格用普通話教，教師，都又係那班教師。
足見普通話不難。幾大學都得，不用强調，不用高價買。
作者: kyliema2006 時間: 10-3-8 12:19
原來你學校的程度如此，難怪你的要求也就是如此。明晒！
原帖由 judy 於 10-3-8 12:11 發表
呢啲係阿媽係女人的道理，係人都知。
我孩子讀小學時，未係普通話教中文。現在，聽說己是普通話教了，教師，都係那班教師。
中學了，校長說所有教師都有資格用普通話教，教師，都又係那班教師。
足見普通話不難。幾大學都得，不用 ...
作者: judy 時間: 10-3-8 12:32
原帖由 kyliema2006 於 10-3-8 12:19 發表
原來你學校的程度如此，難怪你的要求也就是如此。明晒！
哈，你又知我學校的程度？
作者: mui888 時間: 10-3-8 12:36
其實講得標準唔容易. 正如我哋好容易聽得出唔準既廣東話, 普遍話為母語既人亦好易聽得出不準既普通話. 好多香港的老師其實發音并不標準, 只係國語非母語既家長唔太覺. 小孩子係天生既語言家, 有機會學當然希望佢哋學得好D!
原帖由 judy 於 10-3-8 12:11 發表
呢啲係阿媽係女人的道理，係人都知。
我孩子讀小學時，未係普通話教中文。現在，聽說己是普通話教了，教師，都係那班教師。
中學了，校長說所有教師都有資格用普通話教，教師，都又係那班教師。
足見普通話不難。幾大學都得，不用 ...
作者: wunma 時間: 10-3-8 12:38
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作者: kyliema2006 時間: 10-3-8 12:40
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作者: judy 時間: 10-3-8 13:03
原帖由 kyliema2006 於 10-3-8 12:40 發表
妳正正就是個樣板啦！
以我呢個樣板，來判斷我我學校的程度？
睇來你我程度半斤八兩，水水哋！
作者: judy 時間: 10-3-8 13:09
原帖由 mui888 於 10-3-8 12:36 發表
其實講得標準唔容易. 正如我哋好容易聽得出唔準既廣東話, 普遍話為母語既人亦好易聽得出不準既普通話. 好多香港的老師其實發音并不標準, 只係國語非母語既家長唔太覺. 小孩子係天生既語言家, 有機會學當然希望佢哋 ...
係，你講得對，講得標準唔容易。
但國內五湖四海，好難有標準之普通話。在國內エ作，聽懂不同地區普通話，互相尊重，才是生存之道。
作者: mui888 時間: 10-3-8 14:10
同意出來做事能同他人溝通最重要! 但於學習階段, 作為家長, 當然希望小朋友能學得好D.
原帖由 judy 於 10-3-8 13:09 發表
係，你講得對，講得標準唔容易。
但國內五湖四海，好難有標準之普通話。在國內エ作，聽懂不同地區普通話，互相尊重，才是生存之道。
作者: mui888 時間: 10-3-8 14:28
我覺得可以互相學習!
講環保, 真係無嘢講! 不過我都係鍾意有書響手, 唔好成日對住部電腦!
原帖由 wunma 於 10-3-8 12:38 發表
本書整來為乜呢? 係咪每個學生一人一本? 如單單為紀念, 或為sell學校成果, 就極之浪費紙張, 好唔環保, post上校網就得啦.
作者: papa_pop 時間: 10-3-8 15:08
First of all, I don't think wingsma intended to upgrade CKY when she started this thread - she's not a CKY parent anyway (right?)
DGS is widely recognised as an elite school while CKY is but a new school with less than 10 years of history. One simply can't compare the two in terms of history and "track records".
But when it comes to polishing students' works, I wonder CKY would work as hard as DGS or other elite schools - their stakes are simply too high. In fact, I doubt CKY could afford that much resources to do the polishing. If I remember it correctly, CKY's very first compilation of its Year 5 theses includes virtually all of them (less than 60 Y5 students at the time). That was impressive indeed. Then there are some 140 Y5 students in subsequent years, those students whose works are not selected are still given a chance to reflect on their learning... in their own words.
I agree that book publishing could be costly, but it just doesn't feel the same publishing online. The feel is totally different, especially to those who love books (I confess to be one), and I would love my kid's work in print. I don't see these books are meant for 'marketing' - but more a keepsake for the kids and parents. It's more for internal rather than external - for the latter case, it should have been published online to reach out to a wider audience.
CKY does publish students' works online. You would find they are rather 'raw' when compared to the well-polished works posted online by other schools. Go have a check on them.
I reckon it's too hot a discussion to compare CKY and DGJS. But wingsma might simply ask which school is more suitable for her girl. But the choice may be rather obvious - should she have a choice. My two cents' worth is CKY would give a little more breathing space for the kid.
作者: wunma 時間: 10-3-8 15:40
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作者: lafaye12 時間: 10-3-8 15:43
Why compare between DGJS and CKY???? They are totally in different stream and teaching approaches....
作者: kyliema2006 時間: 10-3-8 16:09
點解將中、英文輯錄成書就無可厚非，但將arts, science的作品及遊學團見聞輯成書就唔環保。因為這些科目無價值？抑或不值得觀摩呢？
學校每年推出這五本書，對我來說，這些是很值得學習的教材呢！亦可推動孩子努力！
原帖由 wunma 於 10-3-8 15:40 發表
一向以為幼稚園先會將學生在學校的學習情況輯錄成書比家長留念, 估唔到連小學都興, 如小二至小六都有同樣做法, 我就覺得好離譜. 我明, 學費收得貴, 都要做些東西討好家長交代下, 但代價太大, 唔值得.
大部分學校 ...
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作者: wunma 時間: 10-3-8 16:44
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作者: kyliema2006 時間: 10-3-8 17:04
此言差矣！當你看到孩子看到自己作品刋登於那些書刋後所得到的自信，又或是看到同輩作品後所得到的鞭策及啓發後，你就不會這樣說了。
原帖由 wunma 於 10-3-8 16:44 發表
學生每件作品在家長心目中都有價值, 還有:中文硬筆書法, 毛筆書法, 英文書法, 英文草書法, 周記, journal, 常識科project, 宗教科金句創作, 德育科做好事分享, newspaper cutting, 新聞分享..................全部 ...
作者: wunma 時間: 10-3-8 17:19
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作者: sumsum2002 時間: 10-3-8 22:02
其實每個人對學習的價值觀都不同，CKY的學習理念是希望學生多看書和自學，刋登出來的作品都有它的學習價值，由其是遊學團各學生的感受。印成書本是方便學生可隨時隨地拿來閱讀。
小女曾入讀小一，因私人原因而離校。雖然各書刋沒有小女的作品，但她卻常常拿出來和我一起閱讀，亦非常懷念在CKY的學校生活。
作者: penguin_chick 時間: 10-3-9 01:43
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作者: WOOFY 時間: 10-3-9 02:03
My child still keeps all those books (published by the schools) she got from P1 and P2. She said most of her classmates still keep them too.
She also said to me, "
lease don't throw them away, I really like to flip and read them when I feel like it."
I don't know why parents are comparing CKY to DGJS. Their teaching methods and approaches are different.
My child wrote these repetition poems for homework by herself. I like reading them again and again. Hope you enjoy reading them too.
(1)
A hunter caught a deer deer deer.
And wrote a letter to his dear dear dear.
To tell her he caught a deer deer deer.
So he would marry his dear dear dear.
(2)
"Brush your teeth!" I say no no NO
"Eat more fruit!" I say no no NO
"Sleep early!" I say no no NO
These good habits I must know know know
作者: mui888 時間: 10-3-9 10:04
就算無自己的作品, 亦有同學仔既作品, 而且多是平時的習作, 內容很多關於學校的生活, 小朋友/家長睇起都好有共鳴.
作者: papa_pop 時間: 10-3-9 11:12
I don't agree that the issue at stake has anything to do with 平民同貴族學校 (that is likely to draw another round of heated debate if I dare to say CKY is 貴族學校 and elite schools are 平民學校). The dispute stems from the difference in the school's learning atmosphere - whether it encourages appreciation or only competition. Well, parents' attitude certainly plays a role in shaping the child's values. Perhaps we parents need to be more appreciative of our children and others.
原帖由 wunma 於 10-3-8 17:19 發表
當你見到每本都冇自己或自己仔女作品時, 你也不會這樣說了.
始終都要家長受果套學校先做嘅, 我等平民同貴族學校的觀點角度很不同, 不過分享下亦無妨. ...
PS. wunma, I somehow agree that the school could consider other publishing options or cut down the print quantity, eg, encouraging 'returned copies'. This would be more environmentally friendly. But I guess the school has made a saving in printing 'drilling exercises'.
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作者: wunma 時間: 10-3-9 12:23
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作者: father_ho 時間: 10-3-9 14:47
Dear Parent,
There is no point to keep on arguing. For CKY, it is the fact it cannot provide track record for public examination result. Regarding the expenses, CKY is still much lower than that of real IS. For language issue, Chinese (PTH) must better than IS, English is in between of IS and local school. Whether English standard is higher or lower than the traditional elite school is up to individual student. I would say CKY already done quite well. For teaching approach, I don't think it should elaborate more. For student chance to practising any kind of presentation, I feel it is fair and school already try their best. For DGJS, I have no idea so can't make any comment and may be some DGJS parent can provide the necessary information.
ps. I had two kids studying in CKY, you may think I am biased, but that's my feeling and hope it can help those parent who are interested in CKY.
作者: father_ho 時間: 10-3-9 14:59 標題: 回覆 30# WYmom 的文章
Dear WYmom,
Currently,
For Pri. school fee is 55,000 pa.
For Sec. school fee is 73,480 pa.
No one can say how much it may increase but I do feel the coming academic year they will raise it.
I do think no matter is pri. or sec., per child adding up the school bus, lunch, some ECA, it may cost you $2-3K pm depending on your location and selection. Hope it helps.
作者: gardenersteven 時間: 10-3-9 22:13 標題: 回覆 12# Blessings 的文章
dgjs 和 cky???
我會選 cky!!!
dgjs 自己介紹自己, 都只強調力爭卓越, 成功. 當然, 喜歡成功的小朋友便ok. 但會有很大壓力, 跟不上的, 便會被忽略了. 很多學生都給人競爭性很強的感覺.
Cky 著重語文能力, 效果很好, 能培養學生的閱讀興趣和以做project的方法去教學, 其實這兩點興SPCC一樣. 我很喜歡.
作者: lui 時間: 10-3-10 09:33
為何認為在分享的家長們是吹噓學校的學術水平呢?
是你個人一貫思維或是一貫行為?
在朋輩間,小朋友在不同學校就讀,大家分享學校的教學,有好的有不好的.
總結一下大家對教育的期望.
按你所說,那香港只應有一間DGS,其他的都是次貨,不應再有創新.那由第一天開始就應該只有MS的OS, Steve Jobs所做是多餘的?
我們看事物是那麼膚淺嗎?
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