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作者: 花仔媽咪 時間: 10-1-17 23:43 標題: 有無資優兒，成日比學校投訴？

好辛苦，仔仔成日比老師寫手冊，成日做好多無聊野，雖然知道係資優，但又有唔專注，搞到成績時好時壞，佢鍾意一晚溫晒，唔鍾意真係溫幾年都唔識

，點算，我希望仔仔係一個平凡的小朋友

作者: da 時間: 10-1-20 13:23

我的小朋友也是資優, 也是專注不足, 成績又不好,將要入中學, 都不知如何是好

作者: suntra 時間: 10-1-21 15:24

我個囝又係咁樣啦, 寫手冊係"家常便飯"啦~間中仲要收學校電話.

成日攪攪震, 坐唔定, 做功課溫習又唔專心. 我已經做定"長期抗戰"既心理準備.

作者: lokaci 時間: 10-1-22 10:52

哈哈, 我學校有個CASE ,有個小朋友係資優但日日都俾老師話佢唔合群唔分享唔識得講野etcetc
仲懷疑佢係自閉. END UP做左個IQ TEST 結果係資優!
不過呢, 唔係話你係資優就可以有籍口有不恰當既行為, 因為其實係要幫佢地去改善架.

呢位小朋友既媽媽寫左份TESTIMONAL 俾我,
你地去可以去參考下佢舍CASE WOR!

http://hk.myblog.yahoo.com/happylovely-child/article?mid=30

作者: sheepiedad 時間: 10-1-25 02:26

看完有賣廣告之嫌 -_-

原帖由 lokaci 於 10-1-22 10:52 發表
哈哈, 我學校有個CASE ,有個小朋友係資優但日日都俾老師話佢唔合群唔分享唔識得講野etcetc
仲懷疑佢係自閉. END UP做左個IQ TEST 結果係資優!
不過呢, 唔係話你係資優就可以有籍口有不恰當既行為, 因為其實係要幫佢 ...

作者: brian61950 時間: 10-1-25 13:46

我敢講,絕大部份的學校和老師都不喜歡資優兒的.隨非成績超好或有名氣的.
有很多家長都不會比學校知道小朋友是資優的.無着數又何必自尋煩惱呢?

作者: 花仔媽咪 時間: 10-1-26 08:11

我個仔是在學校找心理學家ｃｈｅｃｋ的，所以基本上老師是知道，但最大問題是同同學仔相處，佢ｄ同學說話好難聽，有時我ｅｑ少ｄ，都好想向亞仔ｄ同學說：無家教！唉，其實人人話資優有特別技能，我發掘左好耐仲未搵到！搗蛋技能就一流

原帖由 brian61950 於 10-1-25 13:46 發表
我敢講,絕大部份的學校和老師都不喜歡資優兒的.隨非成績超好或有名氣的.
有很多家長都不會比學校知道小朋友是資優的.無着數又何必自尋煩惱呢?

作者: happyvalley 時間: 10-1-26 17:24

原帖由 花仔媽咪 於 10-1-26 08:11 發表
我個仔是在學校找心理學家ｃｈｅｃｋ的，所以基本上老師是知道，但最大問題是同同學仔相處，佢ｄ同學說話好難聽，有時我ｅｑ少ｄ，都好想向亞仔ｄ同學說：無家教！唉，其實人人話資優有特別技能，我發掘左好耐仲未搵到！搗蛋技能就一流

...

要是小學時不加把勁，找出長處，可能會不知所終。

作者: 花仔媽咪 時間: 10-1-26 23:07

原帖由 happyvalley 於 10-1-26 17:24 發表

要是小學時不加把勁，找出長處，可能會不知所終。

作者: tsznok 時間: 10-1-26 23:26

原帖由 花仔媽咪 於 10-1-26 23:07 發表

慢慢黎啦...
或者出去坊間搵D私人機構做次許估,先令自己更了解仔仔嘅長短處先啦~~

PS, 唔知你仲記唔記得我... 估唔到會係呢度見番你~

作者: 花仔媽咪 時間: 10-1-31 07:54

tsznok:

當然知你係邊個啦，你又有我的煩惱嗎？唉，依家我因為個仔真係好ｂｕｓｙ，所以都無晒私人時間，你話評估我做左好多，知道又點，我想我個仔是一個普通小朋友，ｄ人成日話資優生一定有佢最叻的地方，我都唔發現佢有邊度叻？到底點發掘？唉

原帖由 tsznok 於 10-1-26 23:26 發表

慢慢黎啦...
或者出去坊間搵D私人機構做次許估,先令自己更了解仔仔嘅長短處先啦~~

PS, 唔知你仲記唔記得我... 估唔到會係呢度見番你~

作者: happyvalley 時間: 10-1-31 23:19

原帖由 花仔媽咪 於 10-1-31 07:54 發表
tsznok:

當然知你係邊個啦，你又有我的煩惱嗎？唉，依家我因為個仔真係好ｂｕｓｙ，所以都無晒私人時間，你話評估我做左好多，知道又點，我想我個仔是一個普通小朋友，ｄ人成日話資優生一定有佢最叻的地方，我都唔發現佢有邊度叻？到底點發掘？唉:pi ...

乜評估時，醫生唔係注明邊處特別高分的嗎。

作者: 小BMumMum 時間: 10-2-6 01:44

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原帖由 花仔媽咪 於 10-1-17 23:43 發表
好辛苦，仔仔成日比老師寫手冊，成日做好多無聊野，雖然知道係資優，但又有唔專注，搞到成績時好時壞，佢鍾意一晚溫晒，唔鍾意真係溫幾年都唔識，點算，我希望仔仔係一個平凡的小朋友 ...

作者: pingoj 時間: 10-2-11 01:27

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作者: catcathy 時間: 10-2-20 15:11

原帖由 花仔媽咪 於 10-1-31 07:54 發表
tsznok:

當然知你係邊個啦，你又有我的煩惱嗎？唉，依家我因為個仔真係好ｂｕｓｙ，所以都無晒私人時間，你話評估我做左好多，知道又點，我想我個仔是一個普通小朋友，ｄ人成日話資優生一定有佢最叻的地方，我都唔發現佢有邊度叻？到底點發掘？唉:pi ...

add　ｏｉｌ　！我明白學校勁投訢的感覺．我女兒ｅ＋ｋ３，班主任一個

數足３ｈｒｓ，ｂｕｔ　女兒　ａｔ home 係一點問題都無,我刻意唔備課唔教女兒咁多,.最後,要我用$3600去証明班主任係錯.做咗評估,我女兒iq:128,唔係資優,但評估員有講解如何處理.我心想女兒沒有情緒病,我已經好開心.
資優已係事實,唔好咁灰.你

佢,佢知道,發掘唔到唔緊要,最緊要你的支持.
e+ everyday newspaper 都有小朋友壓力大做傻事,所以証實沒有情緒病,已經係可喜

add oil

作者: 花仔媽咪 時間: 10-2-22 08:11

125以上巳經算是資優！所以你亦要正視此問題～

原帖由 catcathy 於 10-2-20 15:11 發表

add　ｏｉｌ　！我明白學校勁投訢的感覺．我女兒ｅ＋ｋ３，班主任一個數足３ｈｒｓ，ｂｕｔ　女兒　ａｔ home 係一點問題都無,我刻意唔備課唔教女兒咁多,.最後,要我用$3600去証明班主任係錯.做咗評估,我女兒iq:128,唔係資優,但評估員有講解如何處理. ...

作者: 701003 時間: 10-3-2 20:55

原帖由 花仔媽咪 於 10-1-17 23:43 發表
好辛苦，仔仔成日比老師寫手冊，成日做好多無聊野，雖然知道係資優，但又有唔專注，搞到成績時好時壞，佢鍾意一晚溫晒，唔鍾意真係溫幾年都唔識，點算，我希望仔仔係一個平凡的小朋友 ...

開心D啦！我仔小二小三連功課都唔做

日日留堂！小五小六又好D啦，交齊功課仲成績好

不過今年S1，又舊病復發

我預咗長期抗爭，面朦到底......

作者: lai080207 時間: 10-3-5 02:45 標題: How to teach a kid with IQ 136

I found it very hard to teach my son whose IQ is 136. His acadamic school results are sometimes good and sometimes bad. He studies at a local famous school which gives me a lot of pressure. However, he is getting better everytime after I push him with his homework. I've to work and also got two younger twins to look after so I'm really getting crazy with him sometimes. Does anyone know the better way to teach such a kid.
Thanks.

作者: 701003 時間: 10-3-6 18:56

原帖由 lai080207 於 10-3-5 02:45 發表
I found it very hard to teach my son whose IQ is 136. His acadamic school results are sometimes good and sometimes bad. He studies at a local famous school which gives me a lot of pressure. However, ...

local famous school

傳统名校？？以成績掛帥ge學校，的確唔太適合資優生

你仔仔幾多年班？

作者: lai080207 時間: 10-3-7 01:32 標題: 回覆 1# 701003 的文章

My son is 10 years old and studying in Primary 5. I'm so worrying about whether he can have good results to get into his secondary school (only accept Band 1 students). I always think if he can try his best, he will be OK. However, the problem is that it is vey hard to make him pay attention only on his studying since he is easily distracted by the environment.

作者: wawa 時間: 10-3-10 09:33

其實讀o的太自由學校又驚佢學唔到野, 佢地雖然係資優, 但點都要識字的, 讀傳統學校起碼都可以默下字, 唔需要話好高分起碼佢盡了力便可.
我識得有些家長讀一些free 的學校個小朋友都係對學習無興趣的. 我唸任何一間學校都無問題,最重要係學校同家長的配合.

原帖由 701003 於 10-3-6 18:56 發表

local famous school 傳统名校？？以成績掛帥ge學校，的確唔太適合資優生你仔仔幾多年班？

作者: 701003 時間: 10-3-13 15:15

原帖由 wawa 於 10-3-10 09:33 發表
其實讀o的太自由學校又驚佢學唔到野, 佢地雖然係資優, 但點都要識字的, 讀傳統學校起碼都可以默下字, 唔需要話好高分起碼佢盡了力便可.
我識得有些家長讀一些free 的學校個小朋友都係對學習無興趣的. 我唸任何一間學 ...

的確唔係一味free的學校就啱資優生！但名校成績、功課要求都高，部份資優生自已無學習動機(教科書死板)，一D主張關愛包容ge學校可能會啓發到小朋友！我仔用功課簿免唔做/唔交功課，但用一頁紙做功課/默書就OK

有范圍ge默書成績飄忽不定，默寫活動出奇地高分

mouth:" /> 針對佢呢類人，升中我只選二線band 1中學！

作者: wawa 時間: 10-3-15 16:50

我仔仔都係一般默書就痳痳,但甚麼趣默填字就ok, phonic 都唔錯. 如果係學校係學到野我覺得ok, 唔一定要同人爭第一名.

原帖由 701003 於 10-3-13 15:15 發表

的確唔係一味free的學校就啱資優生！但名校成績、功課要求都高，部份資優生自已無學習動機(教科書死板)，一D主張關愛包容ge學校可能會啓發到小朋友！我仔用功課簿免唔做/唔交功課，但用一頁紙做功課/默書就OK :wahaha ...

作者: 701003 時間: 10-3-16 17:49

原帖由 wawa 於 10-3-15 16:50 發表
我仔仔都係一般默書就痳痳,但甚麼趣默填字就ok, phonic 都唔錯. 如果係學校係學到野我覺得ok, 唔一定要同人爭第一名.

資優生好少主動爭名次

更加唔會在意分數

作者: wawa 時間: 10-3-17 09:11

同意, 就算佢拿了100% mark, 佢都唔會好show off. 我見到只係我開心,我見佢都無反應. 佢最在意佢手頭上的創意玩意. 所以填鴨式唔係佢地強項. 連乘數表都唔背的.

原帖由 701003 於 10-3-16 17:49 發表

資優生好少主動爭名次更加唔會在意分數

作者: samelsaho 時間: 10-3-17 16:25

係呀，唔止唔會show off，直頭係冇反應，好似唔關佢事咁．
囝囝舊年年尾考piano 二級，連教了囝囝３年的老師都感到冇信心，因囝囝一向都唔肯練琴，每星期只會練３日琴，而且重會隨時發台薀（即突然發夢），老師話如果囝囝唔發台薀，他係可以pass的，考試那日，我就非常緊張，佢就冇mud反應，幸運地囝囝考試嗰日時運高，考了個 "Distinction" 回來，我就開心到彈起

，但囝囝依然冇反應

！

原帖由 wawa 於 10-3-17 09:11 發表
同意, 就算佢拿了100% mark, 佢都唔會好show off. 我見到只係我開心,我見佢都無反應. 佢最在意佢手頭上的創意玩意. 所以填鴨式唔係佢地強項. 連乘數表都唔背的.

...

作者: happyvalley 時間: 10-3-17 17:47

原帖由 wawa 於 10-3-17 09:11 發表
同意, 就算佢拿了100% mark, 佢都唔會好show off. 我見到只係我開心,我見佢都無反應. 佢最在意佢手頭上的創意玩意. 所以填鴨式唔係佢地強項. 連乘數表都唔背的.

...

Ha ha...我女懂得計算代數,但是背乘數表 8 x 8 = 72

作者: gifthoney 時間: 10-3-17 19:06

It is interesting to read your sharing of how a gifted child may bring trouble.  I start to have some similar feeling.

Yesterday I asked my daughter to take a bath but she insisted to play first.  I became angry and then she became angry too.  Here is our conversation :

I : Why are you so naughty?  I am angry now.

My Daughter : I am angry too.  I don't like you.  I don't like this home.  I want to leave this home and go back to my glass house.

I : What "glass house"?

D : I was in a glass house previously.  Then you got married with daddy, then I went into your tummy and was born.  Now I am angry, I want to go back to that glass house."

I : But actually it is you who are naughty.  I asked you to take a bath.  Why don't you listen to me?

D : But I said I wanted to play a while first.  Why don't you listen to me?  If you don't listen to me, I won't listen to you.  You know, I learn everything from you.

I : OK, but I am an adult.  I know more than you.  I know what is better for you.  So you should listen to me first.

D : I know many things too.  Why is it always me who listen to you?

I : OK, I don't mean that you are always to obey us.  We just base on reason and fact.  Next time, let's discuss together and see whether it is good or bad to do a thing, no matter it is your idea or my idea.

D : What about if you think it is good to do that thing, but I think it is not good?

I : .............

I know that we as parents can no longer impose our order / instructions to our kids.  They have their ego.  They need to be treated equally.

But, my daugher is only 4 years old.  She took IQ test last year and got 141 scores.  She is smart, but it is also difficult to educate her well ......... I am afraid when she grows older, she will challenge us more and more .....

作者: lai080207 時間: 10-3-18 01:05

原帖由 samelsaho 於 10-3-17 16:25 發表
係呀，唔止唔會show off，直頭係冇反應，好似唔關佢事咁．
囝囝舊年年尾考piano 二級，連教了囝囝３年的老師都感到冇信心，因囝囝一向都唔肯練琴，每星期只會練３日琴，而且重會隨時發台薀（即突然發夢），老師話如果囝囝唔發台薀，他係可以pass ...

My son has same problem as yours. I always have to ask him to practise piano but he always shows no interests. However, he will get good marks during competitions and shows no fear on the stage. Now he is in Grade 6. Anyway, I think I'll try my best to push him and hopefully he will get into his own secondary school and become more independent. We just need to be very patience with this kind of kids.

作者: lai080207 時間: 10-3-18 01:17

原帖由 gifthoney 於 10-3-17 19:06 發表
It is interesting to read your sharing of how a gifted child may bring trouble. I start to have some similar feeling.

Yesterday I asked my daughter to take a bath but she insisted to play first. I ...

Your daughter is very smart. I think smart kids will agure with parents very often. There will have more quarrels as these kids grow up. I think you just need to explain more with her.

作者: preciousstone 時間: 10-3-18 23:20

Did your daughter take the IQ test at age 3? Was it too early to have the test? A lot of people said the test should be done at least at age 6. I'd also like to take my daughter to test when she is 5. Could you please tell me where your daughter took the test?

原帖由 gifthoney 於 10-3-17 19:06 發表
It is interesting to read your sharing of how a gifted child may bring trouble. I start to have some similar feeling.

Yesterday I asked my daughter to take a bath but she insisted to play first. I ...

作者: 701003 時間: 10-3-19 20:08

聰明ge小朋友曉駁咀好常見

我仔從來唔駁咀

我有我激氣，佢有佢夢遊

作者: HIN2003 時間: 10-3-20 12:52

原帖由 gifthoney 於 10-3-17 19:06 發表
It is interesting to read your sharing of how a gifted child may bring trouble. I start to have some similar feeling.

Yesterday I asked my daughter to take a bath but she insisted to play first. I ...

我囝囝2/3歲已有此問題, 我不知他是否資優, 但他是一個smart boy, 我亦覺得他有自閉的特徵,那時在公園和一個不相識的婆婆閑聊, 我好記得他的說話"聰明的小孩, 是不容易接受別人的話, 因他們覺得自己可以handle, 不接受人的安排"
之後,我就用了另一套方式同囝囝相處, 如準備早餐, 前一天會問他的意見要他自己選擇, 但其實我已set好 A餐是通粉, B餐是麵包, 要求他二選一, 他就會覺得我好尊重他的意見, 相對份量都吃多D. 因他覺得是自己的選擇, 要付負任.
好似你的CASE, 可能囡囡覺得你沒有尊他的意見, 她想多玩一會. 如果是我囝囝, 我會對他說"我接受你的意見, 你多玩5分鐘, 之後便要去洗澡" 我相信他們會合作的.
現在的小朋友真是不像我們小時, 父母話咩就咩. 邊敢反抗.
SO FAR 囝囝已升小學, 我們多數時候都係有相有量地解釋.不過有時都會扯火. 始終又要返工, 又要睇功課, 哪來這麼多耐性?

作者: gifthoney 時間: 10-3-21 17:07

Yes, I think it is better to take the IQ test at older age, because kids can express better at older age and hence the results are more reliable.

I took my daughter to take the Stanford Binnet test, which is for age 3 or above. Anyway, it is just for reference. Parents should know whether their kids are smart based on their daily behaviour. Test is just a reference.

And afterall, IQ is only one aspect. There are many things to pay attention to, e.g. EQ, conduct, values, .....etc.

原帖由 preciousstone 於 10-3-18 23:20 發表
Did your daughter take the IQ test at age 3? Was it too early to have the test? A lot of people said the test should be done at least at age 6. I'd also like to take my daughter to test when she is 5. ...

作者: 花仔媽咪 時間: 10-3-29 13:53

我個仔０分又無反應，１００分又無反應，一ｄ都唔緊張，同佢搵人教朗誦，１０堂一直都唔識背首詩，但一出去比賽就變左另一個好似上身的小朋友，連攞兩屆校際獎，但佢一ｄ反應都無，真係比佢激死，不過幸好佢如果參加比賽無獎攞都無反應，相反，我個女ａｒｍ　ａｒｍ參加左一個比賽無獎，哭左好耐，仲同我講我下次會比心機練多ｄ我要攞獎～！我反而好驚，因我個女只有４歲！

原帖由 wawa 於 10-3-17 09:11 發表
同意, 就算佢拿了100% mark, 佢都唔會好show off. 我見到只係我開心,我見佢都無反應. 佢最在意佢手頭上的創意玩意. 所以填鴨式唔係佢地強項. 連乘數表都唔背的.

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