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作者: 凱倫    時間: 10-1-10 15:27     標題: 請問香港有多少間行IB的直資學校?

請問有否家長知道除了啓思中學, 保良局蔡繼有, 宏信書院, 培墧書院外, 仲有边幾間政府資助學校係行IB課程呢?
作者: ANChan59    時間: 10-7-14 00:26

原帖由 凱倫 於 10-1-10 15:27 發表
請問有否家長知道除了啓思中學, 保良局蔡繼有, 宏信書院, 培墧書院外, 仲有边幾間政府資助學校係行IB課程呢?


DBS
St Paul Co-edu
作者: NAJ    時間: 10-7-19 11:35

保良局蔡繼有係私立。
作者: mummom    時間: 10-7-23 12:56

培墧書院不是行IB的。

原帖由 凱倫 於 10-1-10 15:27 發表
請問有否家長知道除了啓思中學, 保良局蔡繼有, 宏信書院, 培墧書院外, 仲有边幾間政府資助學校係行IB課程呢?

作者: ANChan59    時間: 10-10-23 23:12

原帖由 NAJ 於 10-7-19 11:35 發表
保良局蔡繼有係私立。


Also. not IB yet.
作者: LLMUMMY    時間: 10-10-25 11:37

李國寶中學

原帖由 ANChan59 於 10-10-23 23:12 發表


Also. not IB yet.

作者: ANChan59    時間: 10-10-25 13:18

原帖由 LLMUMMY 於 10-10-25 11:37 發表
李國寶中學


You mean it's DSS and IB......?????
作者: WYmom    時間: 10-10-27 08:24

原帖由 LLMUMMY 於 10-10-25 11:37 發表
李國寶中學


This is a local DSS, not IB school.

For authorised IB schools, better check on the website of IBO, www.ibo.org
作者: cow    時間: 10-10-27 09:26

Li Po Chun, an authorized school for IBD, is the only DSS school that offers IBD but not HKDSE.

DBS is an authorized school for the IBD.

CKY is a candidate school for the IBD.
作者: ANChan59    時間: 10-10-27 20:52

原帖由 cow 於 10-10-27 09:26 發表
Li Po Chun, an authorized school for IBD, is the only DSS school that offers IBD but not HKDSE.

DBS is an authorized school for the IBD.

CKY is a candidate school for the IBD.


He said Li Kwok Po.
作者: cow    時間: 10-10-28 09:11

原帖由 ANChan59 於 10-10-27 20:52 發表
He said Li Kwok Po.

Yes, he did.

I want to share that "Li Po Chun" is a very speical DSS school in HK that provides IBDP but not HKDSE while other DSS schools are not allowed to do so.
作者: Momo111    時間: 10-11-3 13:17

How about LOGOS (真道)?
作者: cow    時間: 10-11-3 16:46

Logos is preparing to provide IBDP and HKDSE for all students, but it seems it's not even a candidate school.
作者: ANChan59    時間: 10-11-3 23:18

原帖由 cow 於 10-11-3 16:46 發表
Logos is preparing to provide IBDP and HKDSE for all students, but it seems it's not even a candidate school.


They claimed for IB approach for years, still not an IB candidate school. I can't imagine if students can't have great results in HKCEE, can handle both IBDP & HKDSE, unless Mr. Yau thinks his students even much better than SPCC & DBS.
作者: fotk    時間: 10-11-4 09:58     標題: How about 啓思中學?

Are they good at running IB?


原帖由 ANChan59 於 10-11-3 23:18 發表


They claimed for IB approach for years, still not an IB candidate school. I can't imagine if students can't have great results in HKCEE, can handle both IBDP & HKDSE, unless Mr. Yau thinks his stude ...

作者: catcatmom    時間: 10-11-4 11:03

IB Diploma

1.        Yew Chung International School
2.        West Island School
3.        Victoria Shanghai Academy
4.        The Independent Schools Foundation Academy
5.        South Island School
6.        Sha Tin College
7.        Renaissance College
8.        Li Po Chun United World College of Hong Kong
9.        King George V School
10.        Kiangsu-Chekiang College,
11.        Island School
12.        Hong Kong Academy
13.        French International School
14.        Diocesan Boys' School
15.        Creative Secondary School
16.        Chinese International School
17.        Canadian International School of Hong Kong
18.        Australian International School Hong Kong

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作者: ANChan59    時間: 10-11-4 11:13

原帖由 fotk 於 10-11-4 09:58 發表
Are they good at running IB?


I know Creative is a IB listed school only and not familiar with the school's standard.

My son's current English teacher is from USA, taught in Creative before joining DBS. His comments are positive.

Quote from IBO:

Creative Secondary School has been an IB World School since February 2009. It offers the IB Middle Years Programme and IB Diploma Programme. The school is state funded. The head of the school is Cheung Siu Ming.
IB Middle Years Programme
Authorized to offer the IB Middle Years Programme since February 2009, the programme is taught in Chinese and English. The school is open to male and female students.

IB Diploma Programme
Authorized to offer the IB Diploma Programme since April 2010, the programme is taught in English. The school is open to male and female students.



At least the school is registered last year for MYP and IBDP this year.
作者: ANChan59    時間: 10-11-4 19:09     標題: 回覆 16# catcatmom 的文章

catcatmom

Thank you to list those IBDP authorised and DSS schools.

Unfortunately, so many parents still think their kids' school are running IB.......... Those headmasters are top sales, to sell hope and vision.... "IB Approach". Pay for IB tuition fee, but the certificate may be HKDSE finally.
作者: ANChan59    時間: 10-11-4 19:15

原帖由 cow 於 10-11-3 16:46 發表
Logos is preparing to provide IBDP and HKDSE for all students, but it seems it's not even a candidate school.


Many other schools as well............ after 2 years, more parents will be upset by the reality as Logos.

I heard from an insider of HKUGA, they applied for IB, but EDB  only allowed them to run limited classes in IB and the balance in NSS. It's difficult for them to accountable to parents, so they dropped to run IB.

So DBS and SPCC mixed model in the school is the typical model for DSS running IB program.
作者: fotk    時間: 10-11-6 08:40

How about Yew Chung's IB program??

原帖由 ANChan59 於 10-11-4 19:15 發表


Many other schools as well............ after 2 years, more parents will be upset by the reality as Logos.

I heard from an insider of HKUGA, they applied for IB, but EDB  only allowed them to run li ...

作者: ANChan59    時間: 10-11-6 10:13

原帖由 fotk 於 10-11-6 08:40 發表
How about Yew Chung's IB program??


Sorry, your question is off the topic, here focus on DSS.

I am not an expert in IB and IS, pls refer to some posts in sub-forum - IS.
作者: cow    時間: 10-11-6 16:08

原帖由 ANChan59 於 10-11-4 19:15 發表
I heard from an insider of HKUGA, they applied for IB, but EDB  only allowed them to run limited classes in IB and the balance in NSS. It's difficult for them to accountable to parents, so they dropped to run IB.

All DSS schools except Li Po Chun have to run HKDSE as the main stream (ie: at least half of the students have to take the HKDSE). Principal Yau has cleverly solved this problem by offering both IBDP and HKDSE to all students. But I doubt if this is good for students.

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作者: ANChan59    時間: 10-11-6 16:26

原帖由 cow 於 10-11-6 16:08 發表
Principal Yau has cleverly solved this problem by offering both IBDP and HKDSE to all students. But I doubt if this is good for students.


Wait & see, he is clever or stupid....... I guess he is either over-estimate the ability of his students or fulfill his empty promise for years....."IB approach" to IBDP finally........

I personally wish he is clever, if not another diaster.... not him, students and parents.
作者: ANChan59    時間: 10-11-6 16:30

原帖由 cow 於 10-11-6 16:08 發表

All DSS schools except Li Po Chun have to run HKDSE as the main stream (ie: at least half of the students have to take the HKDSE).


Any source of info or link? NSS > 50%. Thanks.

I would like to know the logic, make EDB looks not so ugly????? or any other reason????
作者: PoPofamily    時間: 10-11-7 22:11     標題: 回覆 23# ANChan59 的文章

以某君那三寸不爛之舌,責任那會在他身上,他的名言是-你們誰不相信學校或者覺得學校有問題請走,waiting-list 很長,我早上一個電話,下午就有人來註冊"。
到頭來最可憐的是孩子,尤其是家境不足以送出国補矱的。
作者: ANChan59    時間: 10-11-7 22:31

原帖由 PoPofamily 於 10-11-7 22:11 發表
以某君那三寸不爛之舌,責任那會在他身上,他的名言是-你們誰不相信學校或者覺得學校有問題請走,waiting-list 很長,我早上一個電話,下午就有人來註冊"。
到頭來最可憐的是孩子,尤其是家境不足以送出国補矱的。 ...


Of course I know that, you can refer to other posts, I hate those IB approach schools in HK. After Logos, many more in HK, if you go to primary school sub-forum in BK, you can see so many parents in those schools defend for those schools without really verify the claims from the headteachers against IBO.

Back to the basic, parents are frustrated by the education system in HK and have and had false hope on "Happy Learning" and "IB approach" schools. If they can execute as they promise, it's a dream come true and great solution for us.

I double checked those schools as back up for my son before F1. Most info from the parents related to those schools are either negative or without any track record to justify their claims, empty words without any authorization from IBO for years, except Creative Secondary School got it in 2009 finally.

Unfortunately, parents bet on the false hope and lack of critical thinking to evaluate it's true or not (Becasue they like to use the claims from the headteachers to defend the case, so funny, they don't trust IBO). If it is wrong, find another solution for our kids before it's too late.


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作者: PoPofamily    時間: 10-11-8 16:42     標題: 回覆 26# ANChan59 的文章

Can't agree more.
Those so-called "IB approach" schools always explain that it is no need to get the authorization so early as their students have not yet reached the years to select those IB courses.  Therefore  it is meaningless to pay the membership fees years ahead. And many of them don't have any IB qualified teachers so far while some said that they have been sending teachers for IB training.  Hence, that means the students studying in those IB approach schools have not been taught nor assessed by  any experienced IB qualified teachers(except for Creative School, before it is authorized, there were experienced IB teachers from aboard to monitor the courses but many of them had transferred to some famous DSS IB schools). I really doubt how to turn all students in those IB approach schools of various academic standards especially English to fit in the demanding IB courses in just 2 to 3 years time.  We should bear in mind that the current IB schools are mostly international schools with English speaking students  or schools well-known of having outstanding academic results(but still not all the students can take IB courses).
I do worry if those IB approach schools luckily get the authorization at last, they will just blindly send their substandard students to take the exam.  What will be the future of these poor kids?

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作者: ANChan59    時間: 10-11-8 21:27

原帖由 cow 於 10-11-6 16:08 發表
All DSS schools except Li Po Chun have to run HKDSE as the main stream (ie: at least half of the students have to take the HKDSE). Principal Yau has cleverly solved this problem by offering both IBDP ...


Just for clarification, LPCUWC is not a DSS school, private school instead.

Quote from IBO
Li Po Chun United World College of Hong Kong has been an IB World School since December 1991. It offers the IB Diploma Programme. The school is private. The head of the school is Stephen Codrington.
Unquote

The link -
http://www.ibo.org/school/000638/
作者: ANChan59    時間: 10-11-9 01:16     標題: 回覆 27# PoPofamily 的文章

Those so-called "IB approach" schools always explain that it is no need to get the authorization so early as their students have not yet reached the years to select those IB courses. Therefore  it is meaningless to pay the membership fees years ahead (Annual fee only US$10,000, 200 student in IBDP, US$50 per head per annum).  And many of them don't have any IB qualified teachers so far while some said that they have been sending teachers for IB training.  Hence, that means the students studying in those IB approach schools have not been taught nor assessed by any experienced IB qualified teachers (I am not sure, some % may be IB teachers or even examiners)(except for Creative School, before it is authorized, there were experienced IB teachers from aboard to monitor the courses but many of them had transferred to some famous DSS IB schools)(You mean DBS & SPCC..... ). I really doubt how to turn all students in those IB approach schools of various academic standards especially English to fit in the demanding IB courses in just 2 to 3 years time (They may enrol only some capable students to take IBDP or MYP. Should be OK).  We should bear in mind that the current IB schools are mostly international schools with English speaking students  or schools well-known of having outstanding academic results(but still not all the students can take IB courses)(I know some parents defended that kids are ready in those schools, as the schools run years in IB approach ).
I do worry if those IB approach schools luckily get the authorization at last, they will just blindly send their substandard students to take the exam.  What will be the future of these poor kids?

[ 本帖最後由 ANChan59 於 10-11-9 01:21 編輯 ]
作者: cman_li    時間: 10-11-9 09:43

"As a local educator of a subsidised school, I bear in mind to offer local education system. At least there is no immediate need of IB in DGS” said by Mrs Stella Lau
(DGS Headmistress) in the DGS admission talk.


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作者: PoPofamily    時間: 10-11-9 10:09     標題: 回覆 29# ANChan59 的文章

(They may enrol only some capable students to take IBDP or MYP. Should be OK). -This is the core issue.  How about the rest? The average standard students are the sufferers.  They should be the largest portion, can they go back to the local education?  Take 334 exams at the end of the day  after putting so much efforts in those IB courses.  Though a Mr. Y of one IB appraoch school said that for students trained to sit for IB exams. will have no difficulties to sit for 334 exams. Is it really so? Every exam. needs different skills. I agree that for exceptionally talented students, they can fit in any systems but not all. If they are so bright, they should have excellent results in IB  exam. no need  to seek other outlets. While those below average students,  where can they go?

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作者: ANChan59    時間: 10-11-9 11:03

原帖由 cman_li 於 10-11-9 09:43 發表
"As a local educator of a subsidised school, I bear in mind to offer local education system. At least there is no immediate need of IB in DGS” said by Mrs Stella Lau
(DGS Headmistress) in the DGS ad ...


In DSS, all headmasters and the board of education providers have the right to opt for NSS, and or IB. If they have the right to choose and they still maintain the staus quo, I respect their decisions.

In another DBS admission talk 2 years ago by Mr. Terrence Chang "Every year, we have so many brilliant students study in overseas before F5 or F7, as they want to have a better chance to study in Ivy League or Oxford / Cambridge. IB is a program for them to study in HK and apply local universities through non-JUPAS and link to those elite universities internationally without taking so many examinations."

I am a firm believer in HKCEE and HKAL's academic standards. If no NSS, I will keep my son in local curriculum. We decided to switch to IB after listening to the admission talks from the admission officers from Oxford and Cambridge. Just an example, our HKDSE A** not equivalent to GCE A** (amended by ANChan59, A** instead of A*), if we browse through the prospectus of LSE or equivalent university, it clearly state the requirement on certain subjects in certain grade, so the chance is ??????

I also recommend parents go to UCAS website and see the tariff table, particularly the small prints which will provide a better picture of HKDSE, not just look at the summary from EDB.

As my son is the second batch of HKDSE, no track record, elite universities are hesitate, IB is a good choice for him.

After 5 years or more, we may have different view on HKDSE.

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作者: PoPofamily    時間: 10-11-9 11:33     標題: 回覆 32# ANChan59 的文章

"Just an example, our HKDSE A* not equivalent to GCE A*, only A, if we browse through the prospectus of LSE or equivalent university, it clearly state the requirement on certain subjects in A*, "-CORRECT.
I have attended a talk on HKDSE recently, there is 5**(A**) which is yet to be acredited with the appropriate grading after the 1st batch of results come out(2012). For my understanding this 5**(A**) marking is to cater  for students showing exceptional insights in the subjects.
According to UCAS marking scheme
HKDSE (marking except Maths)
5**-yet to be determined
5*-130
5-  120
4- 80
3- 40
APP(Advanced Placement Programme)
5- 120
4- 90
3- 60
CIE Cambridge Pre-U Diploma
D1- not applicable
D2-145
D3- 130
M1-115
M2-101
M3-87
P1- 73
P2-59
P3-45
GCEA-level
A*- 140
A -  120
B -  100
C -  80
D - 60
E-  40
IB(Higher Level)
7 -130
6 - 110
5 - 80
4 -50
3 -20
Sources from EDB-www.hkeaa.edu.hk/tc/hkdse/
UCAS website- www.ucas.co.uk
I am open to all exam. systems but I am just annoyed by some irresponsible educators who do not really consider the welfares of their students and misled  parents to push their kids in the wrong paths.  Being a mother of two, I learnt that different kids need different appraoches in learning.  Parents must keep an open mind and open our eyes wide to evaluate carefully what is best for our kids.  The school and the system we chose should fit our kids but not our kids to fit the school or system.

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作者: ssdiana    時間: 10-11-9 11:44

Parents you have provided good information on IB.and some concerns over HKDSE

So among the DSS in HK, which school's IB program is with good quality?

原帖由 PoPofamily 於 10-11-9 11:33 發表
"Just an example, our HKDSE A* not equivalent to GCE A*, only A, if we browse through the prospectus of LSE or equivalent university, it clearly state the requirement on certain subjects in A*, "-CORR ...

作者: ANChan59    時間: 10-11-9 13:15

原帖由 ssdiana 於 10-11-9 11:44 發表
So among the DSS in HK, which school's IB program is with good quality?


Unfortunately, none for DSS, as no 1st batch examination result released yet. Creative and DBS's IB students will sit for IBDP in 2012, I know some DSS may sit for IBDP in 2012, but they keep it low profile or confidential and just for parents reference only.

You may query the above answer, as many IB approach schools in HK, and they preach "happy learning", IB and established for some years........ My definition of IB school must be authroised in IBO website.

I am not sure about your definition of quality: students, teachers, facilities, boarding facility, overseas students etc. I did compare DBS and SPCC in another post IB vs NSS in local DSS, the link is listed as follow:

http://forum.edu-kingdom.com/viewthread.php?tid=2214323&extra=&page=4

If I really compare the DSS, IB schools, just only CSS (MYP & IBDP) and DBS (IBDP only) eligible, but I am not in a position to compare this two schools as no track records and I am not familiar with CSS. If any parents know any other DSS schools authorised by IBO, pls share with us.

The best in HK is LPCUWC (Local students 39+, avaerage 37+), then CIS (refer to their IB results from their website.), most established IB schools in HK are either IS or ESF right now.

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作者: cow    時間: 10-11-9 13:22

原帖由 ANChan59 於 10-11-9 13:15 發表
If I really compare the DSS, IB schools, just only CSS (MYP & IBDP) and DBS (IBDP only) eligible, but I am not in a position to compare this two schools as no track records and I am not familiar with CSS. If any parents know any other DSS schools authorised by IBO, pls share with us.

I vote for SPCC.
作者: ANChan59    時間: 10-11-9 13:24

原帖由 cow 於 10-11-9 13:22 發表

I vote for SPCC.


Any grounds? Pls share with us.
作者: cow    時間: 10-11-9 13:34

Based on the history of SPCC and the quality of the students. I don't want to compare SPCC with DBS but SPCC must be much better than CSS.
作者: ANChan59    時間: 10-11-9 13:49

原帖由 cow 於 10-11-9 13:34 發表
Based on the history of SPCC and the quality of the students. I don't want to compare SPCC with DBS but SPCC must be much better than CSS.


Noted with thanks.

My son applied both SPCC and DBS this year, I can say they are comparable.

Personally, I appreciate CSS more, low profile and authorised MYP in 2009, IBDP 2010, years before IB authoization hired IB certified teachers and examiners to upgrade the school and curriculum as per IBO's assessment requirements. With limited resources and history relative to DBS and SPCC, CSS achieved alot and the principal is "walk the talk". A role model for DSS IB school in HK.
作者: cherubic    時間: 10-11-9 14:09

ANChan59,

My question may look stupid.  

In the absence of track record, how can you ensure DBS is on the right track in providing the IBDP?
作者: cowboymama    時間: 10-11-9 14:36

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作者: BookloverJ    時間: 10-11-9 14:37

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作者: ANChan59    時間: 10-11-9 15:08

原帖由 cherubic 於 10-11-9 14:09 發表
ANChan59,

My question may look stupid.  

In the absence of track record, how can you ensure DBS is on the right track in providing the IBDP?


No stupid question, but may have stupid answer .

Pls refer to this post and I shared about our struggles between IB vs NSS. You may know our considerations.

http://forum.edu-kingdom.com/viewthread.php?tid=2214323&extra=&page=1

My son studies in DBS and our friends' kids in Pre-IB, we have in-depth understanding of the commitment of DBS to run an outstanding IBDP. We have friends and their kids in LPCUWC, CIS, AIS, ESF, we discussed with them and got boarder picture of IB schools in HK. We opt for IB instead of NSS finally.

Many choices in HK for IB schools:
1. IS
2. ESF schools
3. LPCUWC
4. DSS IB schools and
5. Private IB schools.

In primary school, we considered 1 & 2, but we preferred local school with Christian background. He got in DBS at G7 and enjoys the school life. Personally, I prefer LPCUWC, but he didn't want to be a boarder. 4 & 5, we opt for SPCC as it has similar background as DBS and we live HK side.

Cambridge's admission officer was in HK 2009, he visited 10 top secondary schools in HK, some are IB or IB candidate schools. We shortlisted three of them, LPCUWC, SPCC and DBS. In last year Garden Fete, we discussed with 3 IB teachers at their booth, we chatted for an hour and got some useful info about the development of the Pre-IB, IBDP, IB building, subject selection, university recognition, language proficiency...... They are knowledgeable and supportive to students & parents.

He applied for both DBS and SPCC, finally he preferred DBS. We only faciliated him to make a better choice, primary school, secondary school and IB all picked by himself.

Yes, no track record, we can only reply on other track records and the systematic development of the IBDP programs by DBS. DBS recruited IB teachers and deployed some of them to teach NSS as they can't enrol more students becasue of the delay of the IB buidling construction. Students loved IB teachers and liked their methodology. Authorised in May 2010....... as per the schedule.
作者: ANChan59    時間: 10-11-9 15:13     標題: 回覆 41# cowboymama 的文章

Most of your questions are answered in this post.

http://forum.edu-kingdom.com/vie ... p;extra=&page=1
作者: ANChan59    時間: 10-11-9 15:31

原帖由 BookloverJ 於 10-11-9 14:37 發表
ANChan59,
As far as I know (please correct me if I am wrong), SPCC, Logos, CKY all claim to obtain the IBD authorization by year 2011. I think we will have a clearer picture before Sep 2011, and to ...


BookloverJ

Thanks for your updates.

I know SPCC pretty well, it's similar to DBS and only one year behind DBS, a canadiate school now. After one year Pre-IB, pass the assessment and it will be authorised. Similar case for CKY according to the website. They aim for 2013 as first IBDP examination.

Logos talked about IB for years, if it will be authorised in 2011, it's a great news for all loyal parents. From Sing Tao, Logos claimed the first batch IBDP graduate will be in 2012, I am not sure they will delay to 2013 or not. Anyway it's a solid progress.

How can we find the link in Logos website to see the IB info? Is it only restricted to Logos parent?
作者: cowboymama    時間: 10-11-9 15:42

Hi ANChan59,

Many thanks!

cowboymama

原帖由 ANChan59 於 10-11-9 15:13 發表
Most of your questions are answered in this post.

http://forum.edu-kingdom.com/viewthread.php?tid=2214323&extra=&page=1

作者: BookloverJ    時間: 10-11-9 16:04

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作者: ANChan59    時間: 10-11-9 16:10

原帖由 BookloverJ 於 10-11-9 16:04 發表
ANChan59,

Sorry, I don't know the official channel to get the info regarding Logos too.

The info about IB was told by P. Yau during the briefing sessions for P.1 admission.


Interesting. Why keep it confidential?

I strongly recommend you research more on IB from IBO.
作者: BookloverJ    時間: 10-11-9 16:33

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作者: cherubic    時間: 10-11-9 16:36

Thanks for your reply.  It is indeed comprehensive.

The reason I ask this question is because I need to check whether my son's school is on the right track in providing IB courses (though it is already an IB school, category 5 according to your list).  My son is in P.3 at the moment, so he still gets a chance to change to other school if something gets wrong.  What we do is to compare his level (with the exception of Chinese language) with that of IS which offer IB course.

原帖由 ANChan59 於 10-11-9 15:08 發表


No stupid question, but may have stupid answer .

Pls refer to this post and I shared about our struggles between IB vs NSS. You may know our considerations.

http://forum.edu-kingdom.com/viewth ...

作者: ANChan59    時間: 10-11-9 17:15     標題: 回覆 49# BookloverJ 的文章

In case of candidate school, you can send a email to IBO and verify the status.

IBDP + HKDSE together is amazing to me.
作者: cow    時間: 10-11-9 17:35

原帖由 BookloverJ 於 10-11-9 16:33 發表
What amused me is, they claim their students will attend both IBD and HKDSE at the same year,

Not exactly.
Somebody said that it will take the Nov exam half of year before the HKDSE. That is, the students will take the IBDP one or one and half a year ahead of the other schools' students.
作者: BookloverJ    時間: 10-11-9 19:45

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作者: ANChan59    時間: 10-11-9 22:06     標題: 回覆 52# cow 的文章

Sorry, who is somebody? P. Yau again.
作者: ANChan59    時間: 10-11-9 22:11

原帖由 BookloverJ 於 10-11-9 19:45 發表
In that way, the students of Logos must have to be very very smart.
Students from DBS, SPCC and CKY will take the IBDP after finished F.6 (HK standard), and  Logos students will take the same exam o ...


I appreciate your critical and independent thinking.

Sound like "Great Leap" and "Red Guards" . Logos better than SPCC and DBS.
作者: PoPofamily    時間: 10-11-10 00:10

[quote]原帖由 ANChan59 於 10-11-9 22:11 發表


"Logos better than SPCC and DBS."

Yes, this is what Logos parents being reminded from time to time by its salesman.
作者: judy    時間: 10-11-10 10:49

董伯伯話,八萬五,冇提好耐啦,即係唔存在啦。係唔係我"背"咗,近排,己少聽人話真道會行IB啦。

真道的IB到底存唔存在呢?
作者: daisychan    時間: 10-11-10 11:06

原帖由 PoPofamily 於 10-11-10 00:10 發表
[quote]原帖由 ANChan59 於 10-11-9 22:11 發表


"Logos better than SPCC and DBS."

Yes, this is what Logos parents being reminded from time to time b ...


Sorry, your statement is unfair to the principal and school. For so many years in the school, I did not hear that Mr Yau had said that "Logos is better than SPCC and DBS". Please don't stir up a debate.
作者: judy    時間: 10-11-10 11:23

原帖由 cman_li 於 10-11-9 09:43 發表
"As a local educator of a subsidised school, I bear in mind to offer local education system. At least there is no immediate need of IB in DGS” said by Mrs Stella Lau
(DGS Headmistress) in the DGS ad ...


好幾年前我也去聽女拔簡介會,也有人問校長此問題。校長有解釋不辦IB之原因。大意是本地課程實凈,而通過平時的課外活動、服務計划和專題研習,大抵补充了本地課程的不足。我估意思即是:根本唔需要花錢去搞IB。
作者: PoPofamily    時間: 10-11-10 11:46

原帖由 judy 於 10-11-10 11:23 發表


好幾年前我也去聽女拔簡介會,也有人問校長此問題。校長有解釋不辦IB之原因。大意是本地課程實凈,而通過平時的課外活動、服務計划和專題研習,大抵补充了本地課程的不足。我估意思即是:根本唔需要花錢去搞IB。 ...


When I attended the talk on NSS, the officer-in-charge of seeking the recognition of the new system aboard informed that the NSS is so quickly accepted by so many countries is due to the introduction of OLE. OLE has filled up the shortages of the old system. And when you look into the grading models provided by EDB, the marking system is also revised, it won't be so easy to obtain 5* and for 5**(I feel that it is designed for students really talented or gifted in that area).
According to the UCAS's tariff table HKDSE grade 5*=to IB grade 7(high level) and the marking of 5** will be determined after 2010.  Of cousrse, no one can tell at this moment how Us will weigh a student of HKDSE 5* with that of IB 7. but IB students can only go through Non-Jupas system for a place in local Us, Non-Jupas is not only reserved for IB stduents, it takes in all students  other then those taking HKDSE.  So it is really not a must to open IB courses.

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作者: BookloverJ    時間: 10-11-10 11:59

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作者: cow    時間: 10-11-10 14:05

原帖由 daisychan 於 10-11-10 11:06 發表 For so many years in the school, I did not hear that Mr Yau had said that "Logos is better than SPCC and DBS".

I support you.
作者: BookloverJ    時間: 10-11-10 15:12

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作者: littlefaith    時間: 10-11-10 16:54

原帖由 daisychan 於 10-11-10 11:06 發表


Sorry, your statement is unfair to the principal and school. For so many years in the school, I did not hear that Mr Yau had said that "Logos is better than SPCC and DBS". Please don't stir up a deb ...


daisychan:

算了吧,某些家長對教育的著眼點仍是如何考好公開試入大學,大家教育理念根本唔同,無謂與這些家長一般見識。

自己和太太過往就讀名校,經歷過一場又一場公開試,成功入讀香港大學,但回頭一望,學到什麼?原來只有應試技巧和勾心鬥角。學科知識?我太太已全忘記,我記性好,連小學看過的教育電視細節也記得,但對生活根本沒有幫助。

我們的經歷正好警惕自己,眼界不要那樣狹隘,要讓小孩子看得更廣更遠。真道教育不只著中、英、數,連一般被家長認定是「閒科」的音樂、體育、藝術,其課程設計及教學方法也非常認真,科學科著重實驗,社會科著重親身了解身邊周圍發生的事,連人倫課也從小教導小朋友自理和如何做一個好家長,這些並非單單重金禮聘IB老師,可以相比。

如果真道家長只是著眼於公開試,老早就不會選真道。
作者: fongyuen    時間: 10-11-10 17:16

原帖由 PoPofamily 於 10-11-10 11:46 發表


When I attended the talk on NSS, the officer-in-charge of seeking the recognition of the new system aboard informed that the NSS is so quickly accepted by so many countries is due to the introduction of OLE. OLE has filled up the shortages of the old system...


OLE並唔係你諗,或者教育官員所講咁ideal. 我一直响中學教,眾老師都明白OLE只係充數嘅嘢,外國大學連通識呢個主科都唔睇,又點會睇你乜嘢OLE?

NSS仲有好多問題,係教育當局一直忽視嘅.對NSS我只能講:想抄IB,但又唔敢脫離以前模式,最後結果只會係唔湯唔水.入香港啲大學仲得,外國大學就… 心知肚明啦!

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作者: daisychan    時間: 10-11-10 21:58

原帖由 fongyuen 於 10-11-10 17:16 發表

NSS仲有好多問題,係教育當局一直忽視嘅.對NSS我只能講:想抄IB,但又唔敢脫離以前模式,最後結果只會係唔湯唔水.入香港啲大學仲得,外國大學就… 心知肚明啦!


我認識的教育工作者都有同一看法。

另有感而發:
常人都傾向說服自己及周邊的人自己的選擇是最好及正確的。
當孩子讀IB時,便認為IB最理想。
當轉讀NSS時,便轉說NSS較IB優勝。
作者: cherubic    時間: 10-11-10 22:41

非常同意。但老婆往往是別人的好!quote]原帖由 daisychan 於 10-11-10 21:58 發表


我認識的教育工作者都有同一看法。

另有感而發:
常人都傾向說服自己及周邊的人自己的選擇是最好及正確的。
當孩子讀IB時,便認為IB最理想。
當轉讀NSS時,便轉說NSS較IB優勝。 ... [/quote]
作者: cstchan    時間: 10-11-11 13:14

可以肯定是進行式!因為已做了pre-authorization。當然要待authorization後才能成事。

原帖由 judy 於 10-11-10 10:49 AM 發表
董伯伯話,八萬五,冇提好耐啦,即係唔存在啦。係唔係我"背"咗,近排,己少聽人話真道會行IB啦。

真道的IB到底存唔存在呢?

作者: cstchan    時間: 10-11-11 13:24

Just curious, except Creative and DBS, no DSS school is authorized at this moment.  How can some DSS may sit for IBDP in 2010?


原帖由 ANChan59 於 10-11-9 01:15 PM 發表


Unfortunately, none for DSS, as no 1st batch examination result released yet. Creative and DBS's IB students will sit for IBDP in 2012, I know some DSS may sit for IBDP in 2012, but they keep it low ...

作者: ANChan59    時間: 10-11-11 15:18

原帖由 cstchan 於 10-11-11 13:24 發表
Just curious, except Creative and DBS, no DSS school is authorized at this moment.  How can some DSS may sit for IBDP in 2010?


Sorry, I only know CSS and DBS as DSS.
Kiangsu-Chekiang College, International Section and Victoria Shanghai Academy are private schools from IBO website.

Can you share with us which DSS sit for IBDP in 2010? It will be a good reference for us.


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作者: cstchan    時間: 10-11-13 06:54

Sorry for the typo.  Should be 2012, not 2010, as you said "I know some DSS may sit for IBDP in 2012, but they keep it low ... "

原帖由 ANChan59 於 10-11-11 03:18 PM 發表


Sorry, I only know CSS and DBS as DSS.
Kiangsu-Chekiang College, International Section and Victoria Shanghai Academy are private schools from IBO website.

Can you share with us which DSS sit for I ...

作者: ANChan59    時間: 10-11-13 08:21

原帖由 cstchan 於 10-11-13 06:54 發表
Sorry for the typo.  Should be 2012, not 2010, as you said "I know some DSS may sit for IBDP in 2012, but they keep it low ... "


No problem, thanks for your clarification.

We may have one or two DSS schools in mind, but if they want to sit for IBDP in May 2012, they should be authorised in 2010 before the IBDP start (Correct me if you have other info). Even aim for Nov 2012 IBDP exam, the DSS school should be authorised this month.
作者: cstchan    時間: 10-11-14 12:02

To sit for May 2012, the school should already started the IBDP in September 2010.  That's why I think only Creative and DBS these two DSS school can make it.

To sit for November 2012, the school should start the program in Jan 2011.  So they should be authorized at this moment.  At least the authorization visit should be done.

Anyway, I don't think Hong Kong school will sit for the Novemember 2012.  I think even some school would like to, it's only for the supplementary exam.

So I think only Creative and DBS these two DSS schools can sit for May 2012 exam.  SPCC and Logos (may be more, but I don't know) is now processing the authorization procedure.  If okay, they will sit for May 2013 exam.


原帖由 ANChan59 於 10-11-13 08:21 AM 發表


No problem, thanks for your clarification.

We may have one or two DSS schools in mind, but if they want to sit for IBDP in May 2012, they should be authorised in 2010 before the IBDP start (Correct ...

作者: fatymama    時間: 10-11-14 13:21     標題: 回覆 73# cstchan 的文章

Though I am not a parent of the Logos, I find the following link well-explains the IB processing status of the Logos..

http://www.logosacademy.edu.hk/frameset02.htm

clink the column of "通告"  on the left and inside a notice about the IB issue.

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作者: ANChan59    時間: 10-11-14 17:10

原帖由 fatymama 於 10-11-14 13:21 發表
Though I am not a parent of the Logos, I find the following link well-explains the IB processing status of the Logos..

http://www.logosacademy.edu.hk/frameset02.htm

clink the column of "通告"  on th ...


Thanks so much. Highly appreciate your openess to share the IB info.

Looking forward Logos will be authorised soon and sit for IBDP in 2013.
作者: dawnhu    時間: 11-1-9 01:09

請問 甚麼係IB?  甚麼係NSS呀?
作者: ANChan59    時間: 11-1-10 22:40

原帖由 dawnhu 於 11-1-9 01:09 發表
請問 甚麼係IB?  甚麼係NSS呀?


Here is the official web site of IBO:
http://www.ibo.org/general/who.cfm

The following is the web site talking the academic structure of NSS or 334:
http://334.edb.hkedcity.net/EN/index.php

Sharing of IB vs NSS:
http://forum.edu-kingdom.com/viewthread.php?tid=2214323&extra=page%3D2

I hope it helps.
作者: BookloverJ    時間: 11-6-10 10:39

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