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作者: ScarlettChan 時間: 10-1-9 14:07 標題: 聖若望英文書院... HOW SAD!!!!

BIG and very upsetting news for SJC on Friday!!!!

The campus on Flint Road will be closed soon!! Miss Cxxxg, the long time (more than 30 years!!!!!) Principal, Supervisor and Director, was strongly against closing the campus since she would like to continue the will and also legacy in terms of education of the late and respectful Dr. Liang.

Sadly, the sons, daughters and daughters-in-law of Dr. Liang, came to the school today and demanded Miss Cxxxg to leave right away. Also, Miss Chxn (the Vice Principal who has devoted herself to the school for over 20 years!!!!); Miss Chxxxg (Prefect of Studies who has worked for almost 20 years!!!!!); Miss Wxn, Deputy Prefect of Studies; admin staff in primary and kindergarten sections and some of the teachers were ALL being terminated today with immediate effect becoz they don’t want to shut down the campus on Flint Road.
I really feel ashamed of whomever decided to terminate the loyal staff mentioned below. The decision maker obviously didn't put the students and parents into consideration.

作者: shany 時間: 10-1-10 02:58

吓~咁點算呀~我係因為ms.cheung先俾個女讀,ms.chung & ms.cheung都唔喺度,對呢間學校仲邊有信心呀!!!!

作者: anorangetoday 時間: 10-1-10 14:16 標題: 回覆 2# ScarlettChan 的文章

How come SJC will be closed?
By the way, how do you know that news, and is there anything that we can do as a parent to help our child?

作者: anson123 時間: 10-1-10 15:34

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作者: yogayoga 時間: 10-1-10 19:41

hihi, i heard for long that school will just have some changes of school management in 2010, seems getting some new perspectives and insights. To me, it sounds a good sign of change. Am thinking to get my girl to its nursery this year.

作者: cwf0304 時間: 10-1-10 22:08

Hi~ScarlettChan,

You seems are senior staff or teacher of the school?? becoz i talk to school and everything no change last friday, but anyway, it is good for SJC, the old school needs a big change for improve many of problems, for example, you can see

這校行政是否有問題　？
http://forum.edu-kingdom.com/viewthread.php?tid=1632447&extra=page%3D1

i think the problems mainly from quality of some teachers and admin staff (including relatives of Principal), i hope the new management as you
mentioned will bring new direction into school and finally everything better than now.

JJ

原帖由 ScarlettChan 於 10-1-9 14:07 發表
BIG and very upsetting news for SJC on Friday!!!!

The campus on Flint Road will be closed soon!! Miss Cxxxg, the long time (more than 30 years!!!!!) Principal, Supervisor and Director, was strongly a ...

作者: anorangetoday 時間: 10-1-11 06:52

Is it a really good changes to the school and our children????
Actually, i think that if the school changed a lot especially for the teacher and management no one will get benifit (except who want to make "change" ).
By the way, how come you all can know all these news well, it is amazing that you all can know the school management well too?!
So do you all know any more news? i woud like to take precaution and help our children.

作者: mmkk203 時間: 10-1-11 12:36

慘啦, 都差不多下學期先轉, 其實有冇考慮到d 小朋友適唔適應到. 你知啦, d bb 個個都好痴e家d 老師. bye bye 都冇一聲.

攪到個 k 的生活冇完美的結局tim........
好心啦, 問都冇問過就幫我地d 媽咪決定哂....
不過, sjc 的admin 不樓都有d 問題的, 有時真係不民主的. 而且有d 不合時宜, 不過佢地好warm law, 不太commercial. (除了要我地捐款外)

作者: anorangetoday 時間: 10-1-11 14:18 標題: 回覆 1# mmkk203 的文章

I agree that it will be diffucult for student to adapt the new environment.
Meanwhile, i think we should focus on the new management, that is wheather they would provide a better school life to our kids. So, i guess, now we shouldn't argue the previous things. Most importantly is to solve the existing problem which caused by the new arrangement .
Now the situation is alarming, they ought to consider our children, nevertheless they should respond toward such serious issue.
So now, i think we should keep an eye on Dr Liang' son ,that is to monitor the current situcation , in order to ensure our kids would not affected by these huge changes.
If there's anything would harm our kids, than it's time for us as a parent to strive for the best !

作者: chriskoo 時間: 10-1-11 14:57

Hope SJC can give our parents the notices or announcement about the management change ASAP.
It will make me so worry about the future study in this school. And also heard and knew that Miss Cheung for Donald Duck K1 class teacher was not work today. It was so sudden.

原帖由 anorangetoday 於 10-1-11 14:18 發表
I agree that it will be diffucult for student to adapt the new environment.
Meanwhile, i think we should focus on the new management, that is wheather they would provide a better school life to our k ...

作者: neroII 時間: 10-1-11 16:59

I am very sad!

作者: neroII 時間: 10-1-11 17:27

作者: chriskoo 時間: 10-1-12 11:12

The notice only mentioned change principal immediately, but not talk about the class teacher arrangement. so worry.

作者: rachelcharles 時間: 10-1-12 11:15 標題: Dr. Liang (Founder of SJS)

梁挺生仙遊今晚設靈

　　上周五因病逝世的「加州」系資深馬主梁挺生博士將於明日出殯，今晚在香港殯儀館設靈 2009-09-17
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聖若望書院創辦人 大慈善家
梁挺生於1925年在中國梅州縣出生，是著名教育家梁伯聰的三公子，曾赴美國留學。梁挺生是本港的資深馬主，養馬超過40年以上，在馬場內人人都叫他為「校長」。
梁挺生自小受到父親的薰陶，來港定居後亦開辦學校，名為聖若望英文書院。
除在香港辦學外，他對故鄉梅州亦作出不少貢獻，多年來不斷捐錢回鄉建設，又興建學校，善款數目以百萬元計，因此亦是梅州市政協委員。
梁挺生除是教育家外，他亦是一位大慈善家，他經常捐錢做善事，而每年年尾他都會舉行千歲宴，筵開幾十席，讓一班老人家享樂。去年四川地震，他更捐出150萬元賑災，又以其學校之名捐50萬元，對祖國慈善事業不遺餘力。_新報記者

作者: anorangetoday 時間: 10-1-12 17:55 標題: 回覆 2# chriskoo 的文章

Yes, so how about the class teacher?
The notice didn't mention why there are a sudden change in regard to the principal , since now are in the middle of term , it is a great burden to our kids , parents as well as the teacher have to cooperate with such huge changes.The main concern of mine is that , can't they make these arrangement later when it is end of the year, that is sometime about June or July, than our kids would not be affected. More than that, such sudden change would lead me to think of whether there are any hidden message undermined that do not display to us. It is because as a well organized schooling , they should have consider both the need of parents and children .However, these unexpected change is doing more harm than good. For example, our kids have to deal with the new principal and class teacher, it is extremely difficult to them to build up the interpersonal relationship , such as trust , sense of catering, need etc... Like my kids, he really upset with the absent of teachers , and he ought to get use to the new one .
So now, I am strongly advice the school have to answer the following
1. What is the new arrangement?
2. Explain how is the school going to operate with such replacement .
I guess, what we need is a comprehensive , reasonable and acceptable statement rather than just merely inform us there are changes . Hence, I think most of us would not regard the notice that they given on yesterday is a proper way to illustrate the current situation.

作者: mmkk203 時間: 10-1-12 18:39

唉佢地以後都咪鬼攪elderly day.....
連 ms chung 呢個 elderly 都唔respect, 點叫人support 佢地wo....
不過我相信新團體咁攪法冇非都係想當我地呢班bb係白老鼠先, 因已經係下學期, 一般都唔會退學住, 所以亦都係局住比大家睇下佢地的教學方法掛.....等大家睇完先再作打算law....
不過now始終都會係green d 但又會有新的沖激, so 希望佢地改革係成功又有建設性啦, 因為有d 野唔發生都發生咗, 好不好都睇住先啦, 都冇得你簡......

不過 I miss my class teacher....& ms chung........

作者: chriskoo 時間: 10-1-13 10:06

my son's class teacher keep change everyday, don't who will teach him today.

原帖由 anorangetoday 於 10-1-12 17:55 發表
Yes, so how about the class teacher?
The notice didn't mention why there are a sudden change in regard to the principal , since now are in the middle of term , it is a great burden to our kids , pare ...

作者: wongkmc 時間: 10-1-13 12:27

Hi all parents,

I am very worry and sad too.

We don't know exactly why the Board dismissed Ms Chung with seemly immediate effect. But anyway Ms Chung is a good teacher who teachs the kids in good behavior. At least, both our parents and our kids should properly say "goodbye and thank you" to her. SHE worked in SJC for 30 YEARS!!!

So I just wonder what is the purpose of the board to make such decision. How can they forsee how harmful to make this decision? Or they really want to harm the school reputation in order to close the school soon (as mentioned by the above message)?

Hopefully, the new BOARD can announce within days.

Pray to the GOD.

作者: ganda 時間: 10-1-13 13:57

My son is going to enter K1 in 2010. What a sad news it is.

Let's pray.

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聖若望英文書院「大換血」
(星島)2010年1月13日星期三 06:30
(綜合報道)

(星島日報報道)九龍塘私校聖若望英文書院近日傳出校內行政混亂，有家長投訴十多名行政人員和教師被人即時解僱，新校長及大部分教師未經註冊。校方承認校內各方面出問題，現希望撥亂反正，而學校董事會已於上周五要求校長叢桂英離職，另有六名教職員在未有通知下缺勤，校方已即時聘請代課老師和職員填補空缺，而新校長任命已正式通知教育局。

　　本報接獲署名為「聖若望一群家長」的投訴信，並表示已向教育局求助；另在該校facebook群組有人留言指，該校校長及多名服務該校逾二十年的教員因反對關閉該校位於九龍塘火石道的校園而被辭退。近年網上不時出現多項對聖若望校政的批評，包括有家長質疑校方舉辦籌款活動後，沒有交代款項去向、經常要求家長捐款、小六升中派位不理想、教師團隊不穩經常轉換教師、教師教學質素欠佳等。

　　聖若望英文書院行政人員「梁太」回覆

作者: pyeung2010 時間: 10-1-13 14:39

囡囡本年８月入讀,有點擔心尋求協助

東方日報有半版刊登『師變』比較詳細

看似新校董梁ＸＸ要賣學校地,違背舊校董遺願.

不過無理由咁兒戲,要換就換,話改就改,教署都話佢唔知嘅.

請問有無在就讀的家長給予意見,我當初帶囡囡面試時,

SJC的氣氛是最活潑及老師是最nice,我當日都有見到

舊校長,佢仲送咗個波俾囡囡,言談感覺佢好有經驗,未知

新個果校長係點嘅?

作者: ganda 時間: 10-1-13 19:47

http://orientaldaily.on.cc/cnt/news/20100113/00176_013.html

真的希望事件早日完結, 不要影響學生及家長既心情!

pyeung2010,
你囡囡讀全日定半日呀? 同我仔仔會做同學仔喎! 唔知幾時做校服呢?

作者: mmkk203 時間: 10-1-13 23:32

成日都有好多媽咪問呢個問題, 但又冇人回應, 點解呢? 其實最主要原因就係呢間係一間好保守的學校, 所以相對地d 小朋友的行為道德上會教得好好, 而老師好肯係情緒or成長上作出教導, 不過if 家長有任何意見or 挑剔, sorry 咁佢地會開始唔鍾意你的. 唔會show你一係就好官腔答你. 同埋因sjc 全日& 小班制所以個個小朋友都好易被清腦的.
學術上我就覺得全面得來差少少, 有時又好淺一深上來好深, 要自己跟少少law, 特別係想升local school 個d家長.
老師方面, 不樓都成日轉的(每個學期), 不過每間學校都係一樣的.......不過d老師都ok 的.

作者: 玉桂媽咪 時間: 10-1-14 03:19 標題: Ms.chan

本文連結 :http://orientaldaily.on.cc/cnt/news/20100113/00176_015.html

作者: pyeung2010 時間: 10-1-14 08:03 標題: 點算??????

Hi! 猩猩太

囡囡暫選讀半日班,我老公想囡囡讀全日班,學習自理能力,
我有Ｄ唔捨得,到時再算啦!

校服註冊時有講過,八月頭可在學校購買,昨晚跟老公商量過,當初選sjc是因他家姐嘅仔仔讀緊sjc小學,都幾純品.
囡囡又考到,所以一齊.最弊係無幫囡囡揾後備.
我今日會開始試吓其他申請,買個保險囉!
好唔好打去學校問吓呢?

作者: chriskoo 時間: 10-1-14 10:16

My daughter was graduate kindergarten last year. I felt this school can train up my daughter study and self discipline. Miss Chung and other teachers are nice to kids. So, I also send my son to study this school. My son is in K1 now, and everyday change the new teacher since this monday. I really agree what mmkk203 said. if you involve the school matter and any suggestion to school, they don't like it and igrone you.
Really hope this matter can finish ASAP.
Becasue my son don't like to go to school, so no affect him much. But still worry the JAN assessment result. 聖若望「師變」was start after 1st week of assessment. Don't know are they keep do the assessment.

原帖由 mmkk203 於 10-1-13 23:32 發表
成日都有好多媽咪問呢個問題, 但又冇人回應, 點解呢? 其實最主要原因就係呢間係一間好保守的學校, 所以相對地d 小朋友的行為道德上會教得好好, 而老師好肯係情緒or成長上作出教導, 不過if 家長有任何意見or 挑剔, so ...

作者: chriskoo 時間: 10-1-14 10:21

pyeung2010, for my opinion, it no need to study full day for K1. Becasue SJC's K2-K3 change to full day, no choice. Let your kids enjoy the 1st year school.

原帖由 pyeung2010 於 10-1-14 08:03 發表
Hi! 猩猩太

囡囡暫選讀半日班,我老公想囡囡讀全日班,學習自理能力,
我有Ｄ唔捨得,到時再算啦!

校服註冊時有講過,八月頭可在學校購買,昨晚跟老公商量過,當初選sjc是因他家姐嘅仔仔讀緊sjc小學,都幾純品.
囡囡又考到, ...

作者: Antonymum 時間: 10-1-14 11:04

希望校方現應盡快召開家長會向幼稚園及小學的所有家長澄清一切及表明學校未來發展路向，勿再令家長們活在徬徨無助和蒙在鼓裏的局面，這才是盡責及肯承擔的正確表現！

作者: chriskoo 時間: 10-1-14 11:24

agree agree agree

原帖由 Antonymum 於 10-1-14 11:04 發表
希望校方現應盡快召開家長會向幼稚園及小學的所有家長澄清一切及表明學校未來發展路向，勿再令家長們活在徬徨無助和蒙在鼓裏的局面，這才是盡責及肯承擔的正確表現！ ...

作者: ganda 時間: 10-1-14 12:09

Agree x 100

原帖由 chriskoo 於 10-1-14 11:24 發表
agree agree agree

作者: ganda 時間: 10-1-14 12:11

原帖由 chriskoo 於 10-1-14 10:21 發表
pyeung2010, for my opinion, it no need to study full day for K1. Becasue SJC's K2-K3 change to full day, no choice. Let your kids enjoy the 1st year school.

我仔係細仔, 我都係呢個原因, 暫時只報半日,K2 都會全日啦!

作者: james_jly39 時間: 10-1-14 15:34

其實之前本人已對聖若望很失望,考試溫習範圍問很多次都話唔知,考前一星期才日日教多幾個字,一口氣要學生記,冬季校服到今日都未齊,恤衫還要著夏季,成日只係比電視(DVD）我個仔睇,專家都話唔可以睇咁多電視，依家重攪到咁,是但搵個男人睇住班小朋友就算,佢係咪水有咩資格又唔知,一肚火,最後決定退學

作者: luk_amanda 時間: 10-1-14 17:36

I'm a K1 full day mom.  There is something I wish to share.

On the first two days of K1, I saw little number of nannies.  It was insufficient that some non-teaching staff had to help toiletry also.  There was not even soap for washing their little hands in the toilet.

My son bumped his head in the school (part of my son's fault.  I'm not blaming individual teacher, teaching assistant or nanny) after change of new class teacher only after the first week.  I sent 2 blankets with my kid but they said they never saw them. The qualification of PTH teaching is in doubt. I did not receive full set of winter uniform till now.  They did not even tell me how should a proper winter uniform looked like.

However, I was very delighted that my kid did learn a lot (English, maths, Chinese & etc. even writing for a such a little kid).  My boy became more polite, disciplined and confident.  I wanted to thank the old staff when my son has just got accepted by another good KG early this week.

I have been planning to leave the school in K2 or so.  After I knew there was a change in the principal this Monday, I wanted my son to leave the school immediately.

However, change of school is a big issue to my family arrangement.  I like the Syllabus (esp Eng) the most which is ahead of many others.  I like the traditional way of teaching that make my boy sit, write and read.

After talking with the new principle, I sensed they had a great move to improve the school.  I think as a parent I have to face forward.  I'd like to stay and give a chance for the new management to do their work. Of course, there are still many questions and worries.  Kids are fast to adapt to new teachers.  I hope the mess during transition period is minimal and our kids' safety should be the top priority.  The new management should explain to the parents their future plans ASAP.

I wish the school will continue providing quality education to our kids under the new team.

作者: BarrenWong 時間: 10-1-14 20:43

Hi luk_amenda,

My son is the K1 student (Lion King Class). Fortunately, this class is under the smallest change this moment. The class teacher & the Chinese teacher are remain unchanged. And the class teacher also gave us a phone call to clarify he will not leave and all the class activities are still carred on.

Two days before, I and my husband were started to find another school (K2) for my son. Actually, we feel that SJC's admin. is very bad and after this big event, we lost all the confidence to let my son to study here!

I know now the new headmaster is taking to the parents everyday morning and after school. I heard some messages from other parent. I know you have talked to the new headmaster and now you have changed you mind to stay and face forward the improvment. Do you think is it worth to stay for the new headmaster's vebal promises????

作者: hkvcar 時間: 10-1-14 23:14

May I know what the new headmaster say? Can I call her for any question?

作者: mmkk203 時間: 10-1-15 12:39

哈哈, 我突然間有奇想: 如果佢地想comfort d 家長, 不如直情offer 免費 or 半費學費, 當比大家試用期, 用得好咪繼續law, 好過而家所有野得個講字.........
不過好難lu, 好似上年停咗咁耐學, 學校都冇諗過為d 停學的學生做過d mug, 白白收學費. 一句講哂, 新管理層快d 安排家長會 (係group 個隻, 唔好一個一個見wo).....

作者: Fatrara 時間: 10-1-15 13:22

Hi, I am new to this forum.  My son is studying K1 at SJC.  Unfortunately, both of his teachers departed.  It is good to hear there are some teachers left in other classes.

Anyway, I called the school a couple of times.  And it happened to be Mrs. Lu, the new headmaster, who answered the phone.  According to her, she will start sending notices to all parents next week informing us the meeting time.  The meetings will be on a class by class basis, so that we can also meet the class teachers.

Well, I hope she holds up her promise.  Otherwise, more of us will start withdrawing our kids from the school.  I would rather leave my son at home than going to a place that is very unsettling. Then start looking for another school.

作者: Fatrara 時間: 10-1-15 14:02

Hi, When I said, "it is good to hear there are some teachers left in other classes", I meant "it is good to hear there are some other teachers stayed with SJC in other classes."

作者: TKC_123 時間: 10-1-15 14:46 標題: 回覆 1# Fatrara 的文章

Hi, I would like to share my daughter's experience in the past 3 days.  Luk_Amanda's situation is very similar to mine.  My daughter is in K1 class and her 2 teachers left.  What has happened in the past 3 days, (1) the jacket and scarf was left in the school on Mon, then I called school and got it back on Tue.  On Wed, they also took it off in the school but her jacket/scarf was just put in her school bag after school, the teacher didn't be aware of the cold weather (just 10 C in temperature on Wed).  So, she got cold on Wed.  (2) My daughter's minor scraped on the face on Tue.  On Wed, School called me that my daughter's hurt on the edge of eye.  2 accidents were just minor hurt.  But I just queries if there have sufficient teachers/assistances there,  it happened twice within 3 days.  (3) Nothing in her school bag, no any notice from school, no drawings, no workings, no books…  I don't ask about the assessment, just query what they are doing in the classroom now?  When I asked my daughter about the school, she just said the teachers now in the classroom you don't know them, she also said she doesn't like them and she felt not happy.

I really get lost…… I am very worried what's happen now in the school - seems no discipline, no teaching, no caring.  I called the school everyday and just request the group meeting to clarify all of our queries - how to solve the short-term issues (hire the professional teachers and provide sufficient manpower) and what's their new mission and policy, it would affect our decision to leave or stay. I understand they take time to make their wishes happen.  To be honest, we cannot wait and wait without any schedule, and without any idea what they are doing.  As a parents and as a educational professionalisms, we need to sit down together and have a thorough communication / understanding so as to come out a solution.  It's not a one way communication, it should be 2-way!!!

As a parent, we just need the clear picture and then make the decision - leave or stay…..  But, leaving is really not we want to……….

作者: chriskoo 時間: 10-1-15 15:17

I met the principal this morning and told her my concern and worries.
She said that will send us the notice today or next week. And will arrange the group meeting or open day for parents to understand more about the school ASAP. She keep said that work hard to arrange and settle it. And also I told her my concern is about the teacher and the daily activity arragement.
So, What I do is waiting for her notice and school open day. Let see after that what should I do in next step.

作者: shany 時間: 10-1-15 17:06

今朝同校長傾咗好耐,了解件事,都睇到佢嘅教學熱誠,仲講咗好多須要改善嘅point,聽咗佢嘅回答,我都覺得可以睇吓下學期嘅結果,我地就想睇吓運動會,校長話會有改進,期待中!!!

作者: chriskoo 時間: 10-1-15 17:34

Haha, i think that i'm the one with you to talk to 校長. I really want to continue, but too bad need to go to work. I eager to have a open day or parent meeting ASAP.

原帖由 shany 於 10-1-15 17:06 發表
今朝同校長傾咗好耐,了解件事,都睇到佢嘅教學熱誠,仲講咗好多須要改善嘅point,聽咗佢嘅回答,我都覺得可以睇吓下學期嘅結果,我地就想睇吓運動會,校長話會有改進,期待中!!! ...

作者: AliceTsang 時間: 10-1-15 17:38

期待中!

作者: ganda 時間: 10-1-16 00:01

點算好? 新校長, 新老師, 咁即係一間新既學校, 咁佢之前既口碑咪無晒lor, 咁一間咁貴學費既新學校, 仲值唔值呢?

作者: angie_hui 時間: 10-1-16 00:34

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作者: yeung1 時間: 10-1-16 02:02

agreed, the school is making money ! School life is .....zero, not much updated from the school or class teacher in the past. Eventhough my kids hurt or bump the head. No one inform me and I have no choice to call to class teacher for more understanding and . what happen...........:(

作者: yeung1 時間: 10-1-16 02:25

亞女個班主任都走咗loooooor.
昨天又唔見另一樣.今日又一單.個書包就得條濕啲啲毛巾,盒就唔知去咗邊!!
今日佢有無咗自己件jacket了???不過人哋個件就係度我......唉.
各家長記得寫清楚小朋友Ｄ名在自己的物件上啦

作者: shany 時間: 10-1-16 08:00

http://sf.worldjournal.com/pages ... stance=sfbull_right

作者: anorangetoday 時間: 10-1-16 10:16

此宗校政風雲發生於上周五，據悉，當日叢校長與多名教職員正在會議室舉行校務會議，梁欽聖突然進入會議室，表示會即時給一筆錢叢校長，要求她提早退休，叢校長拒絕，梁即時將她解僱，當時列席的教職員均感到愕然，亦覺有人態度無禮，遂即時離場以示不滿，但有人揚言亦即時解僱離場的所有教職員。
http://orientaldaily.on.cc/cnt/news/20100113/00176_013.html

I think the new principal should responsible for it

作者: pyeung2010 時間: 10-1-16 15:30 標題: 唔知真唔真!

囡囡姨媽移民三藩市三十幾年,兩公婆都係會計師,我們幾姊妹感情好好,成日skype講「揍仔經」,咁 "arm " 講起ＢＢ嘅幼稚園,問佢新校長那所「美國加州屋崙國際學校」「美美兒童中心」好唔好,出唔出名?家姐話未聽過,可以幫我查吓.

家姐今日報料話屋崙是灣區入面治安最差嘅,亦是最差的校區,基本上所有差嘅學校都在那裏,會計行業說間學校當年是虧蝕太大而結束.至於另一間美美兒童中心,在屋崙唐人埠,細細間,家姐形容「up up 突突」學生越來越少,賺唔到錢又無蝕啦!送咗俾社區接管.我問教學質素,不過會計只係講「盤數」,其他就唔知啦!

經此一查,我老公話星期一早上經過學校,去睇睇

作者: Fatrara 時間: 10-1-18 12:31

I would like to ask other parents what your understanding of the "profit-making" status of SJC. When I decided to send my kid to SJC, I liked the idea that SJC was a "non-profit making" school. I still believe it is "non-profit making" school. Is my understanding correct?

If so, will the new principal keep the school as "non-profit making"?

作者: chickchick 時間: 10-1-18 13:44

我當初為我的小朋友選擇這間學校, 絕對因為佢師生比例小(因為1班的小朋友人數少, 即使仍然1:15, 但其他學校多數30人1班, 就算2:30, 比例上一樣, 但1班多人, 自然秩序都難管理), 自問交咁多學費, 都係為求小朋友可以得到老師的關顧, 開心上學. 另外, 佢英語環境確係好好, 比好多學校所講的"國際班", 掛羊頭(有native, 原來只得1半時間), 賣狗肉(1班2個老師, 除英文native駐課室1半時間, 另1個原來係廣東話...英語水平係教院程度, 小朋友對佢既時間好多, 所以唔多用英語交談...而普通話老師就係幾個class share 1個, 咁即係雙班主任唔係真正1個eng native, 1個ptw native)
我欣賞st johannes 係佢係英文kinder 就係英文kinder, 我要求係英文, 佢有就得喇, 所以我最擔心唔再係換唔換老師所帶嚟既衝擊, 因為都發生了, 只係想知佢再請返嚟既, 英語水平如何.
另外, 我自問覺得好多間私立kinder都係profit-making, 佢唔make profit又點可以請人or maintain certain quality去教小朋友? 都預jor, 佢make幾多profit唔係我哋去理, 但求...我哋小朋友學得開心, 家長亦有權選擇同衡量"值唔值咁多錢去買呢個educational service", 係我覺得...佢係ok既...因為我小朋友都讀過其他kinder既國際n班, 學費同st johannes 不相伯仲, 但唔好講老師呀...ee呀..呢d軟件, 只講campus size, 茶點, 搞function, party...佢哋確係對小朋友好好, 好多種類食物, 派親返嚟既party gift都好靚同實用(例如x mas party個gift bag係1 set 有brand name既play-doug, 玩得安全唔怕toxic), 呢d雖然係家長既錢(tuition fee etc...)但佢哋都叫有d野做出嚟唔係袋袋平安. 以前我小朋友間學校"國際n1班半日", 3800 一個月, birthday party連蛋糕都無得食, tea永遠只得餅同bread + 水 or juice, x mas人人比$120去join, 竟然係咩小玩具or party 帽呀..ball ball呀...都無,又無咩野食.

或者我唔好彩, 以前間學校好差, 所以覺得st johannes 算好ok, 但不能否認係, 佢地tum小朋友確係有1手, 搞function 夾埋小學, 真係搞得出個氣氛, 呢d係小朋友能感受到, 試問有幾多間kinder搞得出咁多大functions? 我作為家長, 唔介意要捐, 要比錢, 因為小朋友係最終有得著, 係開心既...就得喇.

上week, 我小朋友確係有唔開心, 第1次講唔想返學..因為無老師..好心痛, 但都要時間架...佢哋要去請人. 不過上week尾好少少..因為佢哋有稱讚我小朋友, 話做assessment好快又靚, tum佢...佢又返d喇...話老師好錫佢...

今朝都仲係ee哦哦話唔想返, 話怕無老師照顧佢喎, 我有tum佢話1定有, 只係上week assessment 唔洗教書先係咁. 我地做家長只可以安撫小朋友. 到剛才, 放學返嚟,,..有2個貼紙喎~~係老師同校姐ee送比佢, 佢鬼咁happy, 又話鍾意返st johannes喇~

所以我好希望老師最基本係呢個stage, 可以tum到小朋友開心返學先啦! 然後我地做家長既~再促請學校交待下佢哋請了d咩老師, 最好有個seminar, show 1 show老師d樣, 講下野, 比我哋聽聽老師d英文如何....都會安心好多.

[ 本帖最後由 chickchick 於 10-1-18 13:48 編輯 ]

作者: ScarlettChan 時間: 10-1-18 14:31 標題: 根據勞x處透露...

根據勞x處正確消息透露

作者: chriskoo 時間: 10-1-18 17:58

Sigh, really agree and same feel as you. Because if change school now, is a big change. Need to re-arrange everything again. When I think that feel headache la.
My elder daughter studied here before and feel happy, and her english much much better than chinese tim. Hope they can keep their teaching standard. Why I sent 2nd kid to this school because I trust their teaching style and standard.
Really hope it have any parent meeting ASAP.
We just pray for it.
I hope it can finish soon.

原帖由 chickchick 於 10-1-18 13:44 發表
我當初為我的小朋友選擇這間學校, 絕對因為佢師生比例小(因為1班的小朋友人數少, 即使仍然1:15, 但其他學校多數30人1班, 就算2:30, 比例上一樣, 但1班多人, 自然秩序都難管理), 自問交咁多學費, 都係為求小朋友可以 ...

作者: ScarlettChan 時間: 10-1-19 12:56

根據勞x處正確消息透露，現任梁xx校董公司拖欠多名員工薪金一年有多，另外，現時新任校長x太，其兒子公司亦欠員工薪金一年有多，此等無良顧主，有資格從事教育工作嗎？如有懷疑，可向勞x處查詢，現在我正擔心，就算呢兩年學校可以正常運作，嗰時我大仔五六年級，細女又K3，咁咪仲難轉校。（如有懷疑，可向勞x處證實）

我兩位小朋友轉校就必然，作為一位家長，都係想提醒大家，要為自己小朋友將來打算。

作者: ScarlettChan 時間: 10-1-19 12:58

根據勞x處正確消息透露，現任梁xx校董公司拖欠多名員工薪金一年有多，另外，現時新任校長x太，其兒子公司亦欠員工薪金一年有多，此等無良顧主，有資格從事教育工作嗎？如有懷疑，可向勞x處查詢，現在我正擔心，就算呢兩年學校可以正常運作，嗰時我大仔五六年級，細女又K3，咁咪仲難轉校。（如有懷疑，可向勞x處證實）

我兩位小朋友轉校就必然，作為一位家長，都係想提醒大家，要為自己小朋友將來打算。

作者: Fatrara 時間: 10-1-19 14:56

Hi, did you guys receive a letter from Mrs. Lu, the new principal? But disappointingly, she did say, when and where she would meet us the parents to explain the future of the school. What should we do??

作者: Fatrara 時間: 10-1-19 14:57

She did not say.

作者: yeung1 時間: 10-1-19 23:09

should all the parents group to discuss and meet Mrs Lu asap

作者: TKC_123 時間: 10-1-20 09:27

I called the new principal yesterday, she told me the group meeting will be held at end of Jan or beginning of Feb. I am looking for....

作者: fapost 時間: 10-1-20 15:06 標題: Re: 2nd Term Usage Fee

I am sure all you guys receive the notice for the 2nd term usage fee. The deadline is Fri., 29 Jan.. I hope the teacher-parent meeting can and will be held before that deadline. Under such uncertain circumstances, as a SJC parent, I am very reluctant to pay the money now.

作者: BarrenWong 時間: 10-1-20 20:51

Hi all parents,

I have found some info. from internet about 美美幼兒中心!
Please found below:
http://sf.worldjournal.com/pages/full_sf/push?article-%E5%AE%B6%E6%A9%8B%E9%A9%9B%E7%A4%BE%E6%8E%A5%E7%AE%A1%E7%BE%8E%...E7%BE%8E%E5%85%92%E7%AB%A5%E4%B8%AD%E5%BF%83%20&id=2874245-%E5%AE%B6%E6%A9%8B%E9%A9%9B%E7%A4%BE%E6%8E%A5%E7%AE%A1%E7%BE%8E%E7%BE%8E%E5%85%92%E7%AB%A5%E4%B8%AD%E5%BF%83&instance=sfbull_right

作者: yeung1 時間: 10-1-20 23:02

That's too late. Can't wait for the meeting.

作者: pyeung2010 時間: 10-1-21 08:59 標題: info. from internet

http://news.sina.com/us/singtao/104-103-102-106/2009-07-10/05113988520.html

作者: chriskoo 時間: 10-1-21 10:13

me too, I will wait till the parent meeting and pay the fee. So, they should hold the meeting asap la.

原帖由 fapost 於 10-1-20 15:06 發表
I am sure all you guys receive the notice for the 2nd term usage fee. The deadline is Fri., 29 Jan.. I hope the teacher-parent meeting can and will be held before that deadline. Under such uncertai ...

作者: TKC_123 時間: 10-1-21 13:40

I am sure that new principal knows most of parents are eager to have the meeting.  But, she still doesn't  decide the exact meeting date.  Do you think we need to STRESS them - give the message to school "Set the meeting date to school on Jan 30 (Sat) and we won't pay the usage fee until meeting is held".  What we can do are:
(1) every parent call school every day to require the group meeting held on Jan 30.
(2) And then we can inform other parents (if you know) also to make the daily phone call to school (also require group meeting held on Jan 30).
(3) we can daily call Educational department (tel:36984141) to mention the same wish. (Now, Educational department has communication with SJC)  Hope the stress from parents and educational department can push school to setup the group meeting and to face our concern.  What do you think?

Principal always requires us to give her some time.  The meeting date - Jan 30 (3 weeks after Miss Chung's fired) is good enough for her meeting preparation.

作者: 26mrsleung 時間: 10-1-21 23:53

好, 我同意, 我都想聽聽學校未來發展, 會有何改革.

作者: 26mrsleung 時間: 10-1-22 01:03

美美幼兒中心http://news.sina.com/us/singtao/ ... 10/05113988520.html

好驚聖若望都會有停業通知。。。
上年Ｈ１Ｎ１停課停到我驚！

作者: TKC_123 時間: 10-1-25 10:44

Called school this morning. They told me the school notice about parents meeting was passed to parents last Friday although I and one of parents didn't receive it. They told me the meeting will be held this Wed(Jan 27) 4p.m.-5p.m. at 3 Flint Road (火石道). Just let all of you know about it in case you also haven't received the school notice. I must take leave to meet them. Let's meet there…..

作者: 余魚媽 時間: 10-1-25 10:58

my girl enrolled for k1(10-11)
May i join the meeting?

作者: Fatrara 時間: 10-1-25 13:33

Well, the news keeps getting worse and worse. Saw this on the other discussion forum - "我們是否陸校長的白老鼠??". The police had to come while Ms. Chung was trying to collect her things from the school.

http://orientaldaily.on.cc/cnt/news/20100125/00176_017.html

I did not receive a notice about the meeting. But like the other people, I will come to the school on Jan-27 trying to get some answers. As a parent, I am becoming more and more despaired. My kid now cries every morning not wanting to go to school. Can someone offers me some advice, please!

作者: chriskoo 時間: 10-1-25 15:08

Thanks for TKC_123,
I always checked my kid school bag. no notice for any parents meeting, only the notice for pay the books fee. Many thx for your post.
I will go to meeting to see what happen then.

原帖由 TKC_123 於 10-1-25 10:44 發表
Called school this morning. They told me the school notice about parents meeting was passed to parents last Friday although I and one of parents didn't receive it. They told me the meeting will be h ...

作者: shany 時間: 10-1-25 16:13

啱啱問咗學校k2s下星期先有家長會~

作者: Fatrara 時間: 10-1-25 16:27

Hi, All,

Thank you very much for the information. But my kid is in K1. I still did not receive a notice about any meetings.

作者: hkvcar 時間: 10-1-25 21:29

my son is also K1 but still no notice in his schoolbag! Btw, 點解佢哋咁大仇口??? 一定有d不可告人的秘密!

作者: luk_amanda 時間: 10-1-25 23:13

Through today's news, I think I have a better understanding to what has been happening.

Anyway, our kids interest and the school's future are parents' concern. The people who's taken up the school should have a mind for the betterment of our children. They have to face the parents' worries, and show how they will do in detail. No hollow words and mere promise please.

They have to know that we are truly supporting to a school which are really concerned about our kids' future......

作者: anson123 時間: 10-1-26 19:14

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作者: pyeung2010 時間: 10-1-26 20:50

可能係我先入為主,我總覺現在的校長太霸道,跟本沒有考慮到我們家長及小朋友.
我的朋友常說,要認識一所學校,見一見校長,看一看她的衣着談吐便能知道學校內涵,我上周與我先生到校查詢,早上可能大家都忙碌吧,一團混亂,校長話我囡囡都未嚟讀,遲D先,遲D會有家長會.想問多句都冇.後來站大門的一位老師

話不如你放學再嚟啦,放學冇咁忙.
我同先生放學又再去學校,可能早咗少少,校車仲接緊小朋友,不過又係得個「亂」,校車姨姨好似搶小朋友咁,頻頻說「呢個我嘅,個果唔係」最可怕係連D老師

都好似唔知「边個學生係边個」，後來,有人close咗個校門,冇得睇.但有個姨姨又開番門,攬住個書包追叫校車「miss話俾錯咗書包喎,要換番」真攪笑!!!
試想想,即時解僱校長咁嚴重,原來只係為咗話改革學校,但自己連校長註冊資格都未符合,學校連上課老師

都在招聘中,真係「害人子弟」.校長越講越唔到題,淨係話遲D家長會會再講清楚,我老公嬲嬲哋就『拜拜』囉.

作者: hkvcar 時間: 10-1-27 00:13

我突然想請問有無人知道去世的校董太太係邊? 校董仔女咁僧miss chung, 會唔會係.........?

作者: pyeung2010 時間: 10-1-29 14:01 標題: 好心急

請問昨天的開放日情況如何?是否有具体的方向?校長態度如何?好心急?

作者: peaceful88 時間: 10-1-30 17:04

Very disappointed !

又係門面官腔 !

Need to be changed !!
Change must be best !
Please give me the time to improve!

唉! 滿口英文，我真係極度反感！！ Mrs. Luk 係純正中國人, 土生土長，唔好成日標榜自己講美式英語，其實你懂聽、懂講廣東話；為何竟然要家長遷就她說英語，會否有點過份！真係荒謬至極 !! Mrs Luk 若真想回流、融入香港，並經常發表遠大而崇高抱負延續父親梁廷生之宏願(希望真係言行合一)發展教育事業，請你首先學好廣東話，唔好俾人覺得只係 "竹星妹" 一名，甚麼中國文化未攪清楚『如尊敬別人』 !!

Open Day 之用意係要澄清"師變風暴" 學校未來政策方向，會否Cut 班 ? 而唔係成日自圓其說講自己會Do the best !! Very Boring !!!!!

作者: adawhy 時間: 10-2-1 12:08

Current parents,
I was planning to let my girl study in SJC in Sept, but I change my mind after reading the news that you put up.
Please let the school knows, if they cannot clarify what's happening, they will lose a lot of K1 students next year.
Thank you for posting up news . Please keep us up date, because I don't think they will let us know anything.

作者: TKC_123 時間: 10-2-3 14:09

I would like to share w/you about my thoughts after meeting. What the principal told us:
- the mission would not be changed (strength on English and Maths)
- Full days of K2 and K3 would be kept

After meeting and shared with other parents, understand more what the class happened in last 3 weeks - a terrible mess in my kid's class.  After the teachers left, they have 2 new teachers - one is okay, one has no any teaching experience.  She doesn't know how to handle, take care of kids, so kids don't listen to them and the class became messing...  Now's better than beginning. At least, my kid said he likes the new teachers (In the past weeks, he doesn't like them).

I am still hesitating about the teachers ability and principal's promise.  But, I also consider that (1) no K1 vacancy in other kindergartens now, (at least for better kindergarten) (2) if change to other schools now for K1 which may not be my preferred school. I may consider to change again in K2 if vacancy available in better school later. (3) Now, Kid is adapting the new teachers.  If change now, they need to adapt the new school/teacher/classmates.  And they may adapt again if change in K2.  Too many changes for K1 kids.  I don't want to change for sake of change. Unless I can find the good school now.

So, I would stay for a while and I would closely monitor my kids' feelings and teachers' performance, push school to hire experienced teachers.

Seems school is open to listen our comments. As a parents and customers, we have right to give comment to school and I will keep communication with them in the coming months.  Let's see if they are on good track.

作者: EKHMJ 時間: 10-2-3 14:27

May I join your meeting, my son also in K1 now, he's unhappy in school life, I'm so worry about the change in this school, what wrong with Ms Chung? She's so good, my son love her so much!!

作者: TKC_123 時間: 10-2-4 12:48

I sent personal message to you. Please read.

作者: peaceful88 時間: 10-2-12 15:17

Could you aslo PM to me ? I'm worry about this event!! Because my son will study K1 in Sept !
Thanks a lot!

作者: 余魚媽 時間: 10-2-12 17:49

i want to know to!!!

原帖由 peaceful88 於 10-2-12 15:17 發表
Could you aslo PM to me ? I'm worry about this event!! Because my son will study K1 in Sept !
Thanks a lot!

作者: Fatrara 時間: 10-2-23 13:16

Hi, can I get a Personal Message too?? Are you guys getting together for a meeting?? My son in K1 and both his teachers were replaced. Ever since then, he seems not as happy before, and he does not want to talk about school at home. Before the change, after he came home, he would talk to me about the school. Still very painfully struggling whether to change school for him. Would appreciate if anyone can share more of your thoughts with me. Thank you.

作者: TKC_123 時間: 10-2-24 13:56

Hi, 2 teachers were replaced in my kid's class after Miss Chung left.  This week, one of new teachers resigned and have another new one.  School hasn't informed us.  Just my kid told me a little bit and then I called school to clarify.  My kid is not happy again because she built trust with this teacher in the past month.

Honestly, I don't think school can hire the teacher with good quailty and experience in the middle of year term.  The part of new teachers also treat it as a interim job, has no commitment, no passion, no experience.

As parents, we always need to check school's situation via other parents information, kids limited feedback and babykom.  School don't have enough communication to parents.  I have been very tired about it.

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