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作者: LWW 時間: 09-12-7 12:27 標題: 聖嘉勒小學Vs真光

My daughter has received offer from True Light 真光Primary School and St Clare 聖嘉勒 Primary School. How to compare between the two schools and which one is academically better? Which one has better English standard?

Thanks!

作者: kermitan 時間: 09-12-7 21:32 標題: 英文教學聖嘉勒小學有絕對優勢

聖嘉勒小學有直屬中學：聖嘉勒女書院（EMI津中），香港真光中學（小學部）有聯繫中學：香港真光中學（EMI津中）

直屬中學＝最多可收其直屬小學的85%學生
聯繫中學＝最多可收其聯繫小學的25%學生

英文教學聖嘉勒小學更有絕對優勢：小三起教學全英語（中文科當然例外）

功課量、成績可謂兩者差不多，校舍以香港真光中學（小學部）較大、設施較好。

原帖由 LWW 於 09-12-7 12:27 發表
My daughter has received offer from True Light 真光Primary School and St Clare 聖嘉勒 Primary School. How to compare between the two schools and which one is academically better? Which one has bette ...

作者: LWW 時間: 09-12-8 09:15

Thank you for your detailed information. It helps.

作者: yorkiemama 時間: 09-12-8 09:27

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作者: KK07 時間: 09-12-8 17:25

FYI from the school's website....

香港真光中學小學部
2009年升中派位結果

六年級女生人數: 118人

班別

派回真光中學(人數)

六真

六光

六星

六善

總人數

百分點

69%

女生獲派其他英文中學

人數

*聖保羅男女中學

*聖保祿學校

*播道書院

*聖士提反書院

*保良局羅氏基金中學

*中華基金中學

英華女學校

庇理羅士女子中學

瑪利曼中學

聖士提反女子中學

瑪利諾修院學校(中學部)

總數

百分點

19%

女生獲派英文中學百分點: 88%
＊直資中學

其餘14名女生考獲中學，包括:何東中學、寶血女子中學、顯理中學、文理書院(香港)、漢華中學。

作者: kermitan 時間: 09-12-8 20:27 標題: The fact of the matter is:

1. For  St. Clare Primary School, more than 80% to 85% of the P.6 girls there would actually admitted to  St. Clare Girls’ School through the "feeder school" (直屬中學) arrangement, without any need of interviews and central allocation. The other 15-20% would opted for still better girl schools, such as St. Paul Co-ed, DGS, Marymount, St. Paul’s Covent etc. through discretionary stage, which are mostly done by interviews and are not district-restricted.

2. For  香港真光中學（小學部）, 25% of the P.6 students there would admitted to 香港真光中學through the "nominated school" (聯繫中學)arrangement, again without any need of interviews and allocations. While another 35% would be able to go to the 香港真光中學 through discretionary stage (need interviews) and central allocation. With the other 30% go to other schools through (again) the discretionary stage (need interviews) and central allocation, 20% are better than香港真光中學 while 10% are worse.

So you can see that, for school such as St. Clare Primary School that has a feeder school (直屬中學), more than 80 to 85% of their P. 6 students can go directly to Form 1 of St. Clare Girl’s School  “WITHOUT” any need of interviews or central allocation. While for school such as香港真光中學（小學部）that only has a nominated school (聯繫中學), only 25% of their P.6 students can do so, with the others having to go through the discretionary stage (need interviews) and central allocation.

So you see, although at the end of the day 69% of the香港真光中學（小學部）did managed to go to 香港真光中學, most of them has to go through the discretionary interviews and central allocation to do so. While those P.6 students at St. Clare Primary School can go to their feeder school St. Clare Girl’s School directly, and only need to do the discretionary interviews if they opted for still better school.

So even for the sack of「騎牛揾馬」, St. Clare is the better choice.

I understand the whole system itself is a bit complicated, but it has to be examine in this realistic manner and not oversimplified to just viewing the school lists from this 2 primary schools, or else you will miss a whole lot of opportunity when making choices.

原帖由 KK07 於 09-12-8 17:25 發表
FYI from the school's website....

香港真光中學小學部
2009年升中派位結果六年級女生人數: 118人
班別派回真光中學(人數)六真17六光21六星22六善21總人數81百分點69%

　

女生獲派其他英文中學人數*聖保羅 ...

[ 本帖最後由 kermitan 於 09-12-8 20:29 編輯 ]

作者: LWW 時間: 09-12-8 21:56

That is much clear to me now. Thanks for you all. Orginially I thought it is similiar chance to go to their own secondary schools. Now, I have noticed the difference. At St. Clare, it would skip the trouble for the interviews of P1 application as anyway, a seat at its secondary school is better secured. English standard would be better at St. Clare. But the school environment is not as good as that of True Light.

作者: Piglets 時間: 09-12-9 08:46

The information has been very helpful. Many thanks.

原帖由 kermitan 於 09-12-8 20:27 發表

1. For St. Clare Primary School, more than 80% to 85% of the P.6 girls there would actually admitted to St. Clare Girls’ School through the "feeder school" (直屬中學) arrangement, without any need ...

作者: KK07 時間: 09-12-9 13:40

Do any one know how to find the F1 allocation result of St Clare Primary? I can't find that from their school net. Thank you..

作者: kermitan 時間: 09-12-9 14:26

Dear KK07

I have mentioned those St. Clare's F.1 admission result already on the message I posted before. But I guessed you must be the kind of person who must "seeing is believing" by your own self, right?

OK, then I would tell you: those information were provided by the principal of St. Clare Kindergarten and St. Clare Primary School, Ms Dora Poon, to all of the attending parents during St. Clare's primary admission and kindergarten admission talks through a powerpoint slide.

So either you can still be skeptical about whether I somehow without any plausible reason should lie about this, and kept digging around in forums and internet about this result you would believe,

Or you can waited until next year and go to St. Clare's admission talks and listen for yourself in person.

Or you can take this as an prudent reference, and moved on to understand more about different schools and how the system really work, such that you can formulate the best path for yourself and your kids in pursuit of a brighter future.

Take your pick.

原帖由 KK07 於 09-12-9 13:40 發表
Do any one know how to find the F1 allocation result of St Clare Primary? I can't find that from their school net. Thank you..

[ 本帖最後由 kermitan 於 09-12-9 14:34 編輯 ]

作者: invitation 時間: 09-12-9 14:30

原帖由 kermitan 於 09-12-8 20:27 發表

1. For St. Clare Primary School, more than 80% to 85% of the P.6 girls there would actually admitted to ...

作者: KK07 時間: 09-12-9 16:30

Dear KK07

I have mentioned those St. Clare's F.1 admission result already on the message I posted before. But I guessed you must be the kind of person who must "seeing is believing" by your own self, right?

Hi kermitan, no offence, but I am really the type of person who must 'see' the figures and facts before making a decision. I absolutely don't believe you lie about this. However, as I am facing the same situation, St Clare vs True Light, I'd like to get a clearer picture before making the decision.

I agree yr analysis which I already got it after digging around nets and forum. The only thing I want to clarify is the path of their P6 students. Anyway, appreciate yr initiative to help.

作者: kermitan 時間: 09-12-9 19:10

Dear KK07,

Understood.

I would suggest that you should call up Ms Dora Poon to verify about what we heard from the parents' talks. That should be the most authoritative source of facts about their Form 1 allocation in your case.

And, I would also like to draw your attention to the fact that, for 2009, how many places for each of the nominated / feeder schools we talked about here were still left opened after the feeder school / nominated school arrangements, the discretionary stage (interview, and non-district based) and the part A of the central allocation (non-districted based).

First up, the St. Clare Girls’ School , feeder school of St. Clare Primary School. Code 107

http://www.edb.gov.hk/FileManager/TC/Content_1582/ssl-hk1(cw)-2009.pdf

Second up, the 香港真光中學, feeder school of 香港真光中學（小學部）. Code 134

http://www.edb.gov.hk/FileManager/TC/Content_1582/ssl-hk2(wch)-2009.pdf

May those figures be able to help you make up your mind.

原帖由 KK07 於 09-12-9 16:30 發表

Hi kermitan, no offence, but I am really the type of person who must 'see' the figures and facts before making a decision. I absolutely don't believe you lie about this. However, as I am facing th ...

作者: rasseles 時間: 09-12-9 19:59 標題: 回覆 13# kermitan 的文章

Secondary School Places Allocation Result 2007/2009

(Academic Year 2008-2009)

School 學校
(in alphabetical order)

No. of Students 學生人數
Belilios Public School庇理羅士女子中學  1
Cheung Chuk Shan College張祝珊英文中學  1
Diocesan Girls’ School拔萃女書院  2
HKUGA College港大同學會書院  2
Holy Family Canossian College嘉諾撒聖家書院  1
Marymount Secondary School瑪利曼中學  1
Sacred Heart Canossian College嘉諾撒聖心書院  1
SKH Lui Ming Choi Secondary School聖公會呂明才中學  1
St. Clare’s Girls’ School聖嘉勒女書院  97
St. Stephen’s Girls’ College聖士提反女子中學  7
Ying Wa Girls’ School英華女學校  5
                                                                           Total number of Primary 6 graduates: 151

The above table is quoted from the official website of St. Clare's Primary School

作者: kermitan 時間: 09-12-9 20:13 標題: Thank you Rasseles

I didn't know they put that up to their website already!! (it wasn't there a couple of weeks before).

That should clarified things even better.

My gratitude again!

原帖由 rasseles 於 09-12-9 19:59 發表
Secondary School Places Allocation Result 2007/2009

(Academic Year 2008-2009)

School 學校
(in alphabetical order)

No. of Students 學生人數
Belilios Public School庇理羅士女子中學 1
Cheung Chuk Shan ...

作者: rasseles 時間: 09-12-9 21:09 標題: 回覆 15# kermitan 的文章

Dear Kermitan,

You are welcome !
Actually St. Clare's Primary School posted the SSPA result at around July 10,2009 which is only a few days after the release of the result. (I have also posted this information in under the thread of "St. Clare's Primary School" in "小學一覽" in similar time.

I don't know whether the official school website will archive this for parents' notice. Anyway, hope the information given can be useful to you.

rasseles

[ 本帖最後由 rasseles 於 09-12-9 21:10 編輯 ]

作者: cheyenne 時間: 09-12-9 21:19

Seeing is believing 都喏嘅.....等我滿足你嘅要求啦.
http://scps.school.hk/system/tool/announcements/content.php?charset=big5&netroom_id=1&tool_id=105&channel=campus&parent_id=470

原帖由 KK07 於 09-12-9 13:40 發表
Do any one know how to find the F1 allocation result of St Clare Primary? I can't find that from their school net. Thank you..

作者: rasseles 時間: 09-12-9 21:36 標題: 回覆 17# cheyenne 的文章

Dear Cheyenne,

Three Cheers To You !!!

[ 本帖最後由 rasseles 於 09-12-9 21:37 編輯 ]

作者: Charlotte_mom 時間: 09-12-9 23:37

學校公佈左約小六生之中既78%結果, 咁其他22%呢?

無公佈既都佔左over 1/5 wor

原帖由 cheyenne 於 09-12-9 09:19 PM 發表
Seeing is believing 都喏嘅.....等我滿足你嘅要求啦.
http://scps.school.hk/system/tool/announcements/content.php?charset=big5&netroom_id=1&tool_id=105&channel=campus&parent_id=470

作者: KK07 時間: 09-12-10 00:23

Seeing is believing 都喏嘅.....等我滿足你嘅要求啦.

Thanks cheyenne

Charlotte_mom, yes, the table is not as detailed as True Light's table

作者: kermitan 時間: 09-12-10 01:14 標題: For the missing 32 students

Dear KK and Chalotte_mom

Actually one of the parent raise a similar question during the P.1 Admission Parents talk hosted by St. Clare a few months back.

And Ms. Dora Poon's answer was all local schools their P.6 students went to were already accounted for in the powerpoint chart (which I believed should be the same as the one you traced to their website), and that the rest were those who either went overseas or went to international schools such as CIS, ESF, etc., so they did not counted it in the figures for local schools.

Or again, I think you might want to call her directly to see if she answer the same thing again, just for the sack of verification of facts.

原帖由 Charlotte_mom 於 09-12-9 23:37 發表
學校公佈左約小六生之中既78%結果, 咁其他22%呢?
無公佈既都佔左over 1/5 wor

作者: YauYingMummy 時間: 09-12-12 23:04

The major difference between TL and SC is language. I also got the 2 offers and my girl is also a K3 student of SC. I will choose SC because of the language.... English and one more additional language - French. For TL, it is co-ed, the only reason that I filed an applicable is for my little son! Although I got few co-ed offer on hand now, I decided to choose SC becasue (1) language - English + extra French (2) friendly school environment (3) work loan .... not so heavy (4) good quality of girl (5) stable academic result (6) "quite" guaranteed S1 to SC (7) not far from my home .....

作者: LITTLENAM 時間: 09-12-13 07:54

女兒都被聖嘉勒收做2010年小一新生, 想問吓聖嘉勒家長, 今年剛轉了新校長, 請問新校長如何呀? 學校有無轉變呢?

謝謝!

作者: LITTLENAM 時間: 09-12-14 13:42

Any comments of the new principal?

Many thanks!!!!

原帖由 LITTLENAM 於 09-12-13 07:54 發表
女兒都被聖嘉勒收做2010年小一新生, 想問吓聖嘉勒家長, 今年剛轉了新校長, 請問新校長如何呀? 學校有無轉變呢?

謝謝!

作者: YauYingMummy 時間: 09-12-16 23:37

My girl is now a K3 student of st. clares, no big change in terms of work load and style of teaching. The old principal seems more approachable and the new principal, to me, a bit traditional.

In fact, I was also worry about the change of prinicpal few days ago. However, I've decided to to keep my girl at st. clares because I believe the new principal will bring some new ideas/approach to the school but the direction and/or goal of education should not change just because of the new principal. Therefore, it should not be a critical issue to me.

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