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作者: huielaine 時間: 09-12-5 15:38 標題: SC vs KV vs Victoria, how would you rank?
how would you rank these offers?
作者: ah_lamn 時間: 09-12-5 15:53
my ranking is KV > Victoria > SC
作者: sheungmama 時間: 09-12-5 22:16
KV > Victoria > SC
KV: 中英數十分平均
Victoria: teaching in small class
作者: tilden 時間: 09-12-5 22:32
My ranking is SC > KV > Victoria
SC - English very strong
KV - Chinese and Maths very strong but operate in black box model. They don't meet with parents.
Victor - May be good for international school but not very good for traditional school.
作者: mandor 時間: 09-12-5 22:36
I will rank in this way
SC> KV> Victoria
SC_good academic + good Eng
KV_good academic + more traditional
Victoria_good Eng, but may not easy to adapt to traditional primary school
作者: charmmykitty 時間: 09-12-6 08:13
Victoria > KV >SC
Victoria:
英文強，小班教學，有NET+2位老師做班主任，照顧周到，老師學歷高(教育局資料顯示: 三間學校中，以Victoria 較多老師有教育學位) ，注重探索精神，訓練出來的小朋友較具自信，校園設施及環境好。可惜學費最貴。
KV:
校風純樸，谷學術好，中、英、數三科培訓平均，不會像Victoria 較重注英文。學費價錢合理。惜大班教學，學生周顧比Victoria少。
SC:
谷學術好，大大班教學(班房比KV迫)，商業化得來質素一般，照顧欠周到。學費比KV貴，但較Victoria平。
以上資料來源:
Victoria:阿B讀緊。
KV:細佬讀過
SC:自己讀過
其實三間都係好學校，好難比較，好睇家長想自己細路有哪一種教育。
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作者: ngmyan 時間: 09-12-6 08:33
Charmmykitty,
Would you mind to tell me more about your experience in Victoria, say how many students in a class taken care by the teachers and are you intended to have your child to get in their international school rather than those tranditional type as I heard that their education method makes children hard to adapt to the traditional type of school.
I just got an offer for the E/P of the Victoria, but still considering as I am concerned about the connection to the primary route.
原帖由 charmmykitty 於 09-12-6 08:13 發表 
Victoria > KV >SC
Victoria:
英文強，小班教學，有NET+2位老師做班主任，照顧周到，老師學歷高(教育局資料顯示: 三間學校中，以Victoria 較多老師有教育學位) ，注重探索精神，訓練出來的小朋友較具自信，校園設施及環境好。可惜 ...
作者: cwng3 時間: 09-12-6 08:46
i am also facing the same problem. From the allocation result on web, most of the student will go to their own primary school. Any comment is welcome.
thanks
作者: chingchingb.ma 時間: 09-12-6 09:24
點會呀!!亞囡喺KV讀第3年,每日湊返/放學大把機會同老師傾,再唔係,電話傾又得。要返工嘅家長,如果平時想約老師傾,星期六可以約老師喺學校或電話慢慢傾都得。而每年亦有3次家長日,絕對冇可能"They don't meet with parents"。
原帖由 tilden 於 09-12-5 22:32 發表
My ranking is SC > KV > Victoria
SC - English very strong
KV - Chinese and Maths very strong but operate in black box model. They don't meet with parents.
Victor - May be good for international sch ...
作者: kkyyho 時間: 09-12-6 09:35
but I see this web :
http://chsc.edb.hkedcity.net/kindergarten/index.php
SC - 1:9.5
KV - 1:14.2 
原帖由 charmmykitty 於 09-12-6 08:13 發表
Victoria > KV >SC
Victoria:
英文強，小班教學，有NET+2位老師做班主任，照顧周到，老師學歷高(教育局資料顯示: 三間學校中，以Victoria 較多老師有教育學位) ，注重探索精神，訓練出來的小朋友較具自信，校園設施及環境好。可惜 ...
作者: ysnmama 時間: 09-12-6 11:25
Do you have kid is studying at Kentville?
If yes, would you mind to share how Kentville doesn't meet with parents and operate in black box model as you said? If not, how can you sure Kentville doesn't meet with parents? Thanks.
原帖由 tilden 於 09-12-5 22:32 發表
My ranking is SC > KV > Victoria
SC - English very strong
KV - Chinese and Maths very strong but operate in black box model. They don't meet with parents.
Victor - May be good for international sch ...
作者: ic07 時間: 09-12-6 13:33
1) KV
2) VICT
3) SC
Actually i dontl like SC at all. the teachers are very not nice. if you has applied these schools before, u will know SC discrimate parents' education most. only SC requires parents'education background (primary & secondary only wor). no need to input u. level. i think u should know why la. KV is the most fair school. so i will pick KV if i can.
作者: tilden 時間: 09-12-6 17:39
My friend's daughter have just graduated from KV. She did went to a good Primary School. Blackbox model is the comment from my friend. KV doesn't have Parent-Teacher Committee. Communication between parents and teachers are mainly via notices or student handbook. They don't even have a website to tell you the basic information about the kindergarten.
Here is the blog from a parent who chose better KV and SC for your reference is (http://ying_ying415.mysinablog.com/index.php?op=ViewArticle&articleId=1479848).
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作者: huielaine 時間: 09-12-6 18:39
For the KV parents, how do you comments when parents provide suggestions or questions regarding the curriculum or children performance. are they willing to discuss?
In fact I had very bad impression to SC's interviewrs even I got the offer, the interviewers were so cool all the way during the interviews, if that's one of the settings in order to test on the kids, i think that's not so appropriate especially to a first time meeting with a 2 years old kid. also, considering the environment, i'd rank the school in this order... Vic > KV > SC. but lots of msgs from people around saying that it's the best path to get into DGJS because it's more easy to get into CCKG, but is that really true? so the percentage is higher compared to KV's and Vic's?
for victoria, heard of so many different channels. some ppl said the curriculum is a bit more easy compared to SC and KV. if more into the international, will that be better just simply go to international school like ESF , ICS..... etc?
原帖由 tilden 於 09-12-6 17:39 發表
My friend's daughter have just graduated from KV. She did went to a good Primary School. Blackbox model is the comment from my friend. KV doesn't have Parent-Teacher Committee. Communication betwee ...
作者: tilden 時間: 09-12-6 22:22
原帖由 huielaine 於 09-12-6 18:39 發表
but lots of msgs from people around saying that it's the best path to get into DGJS because it's more easy to get into CCKG, but is that really true? ...
Very good question! Children starts K1 in September. CCKG interviews start in Nov/Dec in the same year. What will the children learn in 2-3 months? I think it shouldn't make any different.
You said that the teacher was not nice when she interviewed your child. However the teacher who interviewed my little girl was nice. As there are so many teachers (83) in SC, I believe not every single of them will be very nice at all time. This will be true for other KG too.
作者: smartmatt 時間: 09-12-6 23:54
原帖由 chingchingb.ma 於 09-12-6 09:24 發表
點會呀!!亞囡喺KV讀第3年,每日湊返/放學大把機會同老師傾,再唔係,電話傾又得。要返工嘅家長,如果平時想約老師傾,星期六可以約老師喺學校或電話慢慢傾都得。而每年亦有3次家長日,絕對冇可能"They don't meet with par ...
Agree...teacher says at each academic year to call them if you want to ask about kid progress. You can chat with them when you see them at school. Very informal chats are the best for information on progress and how to help with progress.
Black box...these are 3-5 yr kids...not airplanes...the curriculum is simple start with basics...ABC, 123, simple Chinese characters...by end of the KG the kids should be able to write simple paragraphs in Chinese and English and do moderate level maths.
作者: smartmatt 時間: 09-12-6 23:59
原帖由 tilden 於 09-12-6 22:22 發表
Very good question! Children starts K1 in September. CCKG interviews start in Nov/Dec in the same year. What will the children learn in 2-3 months? I think it shouldn't make any different.
You ...
Agree, but kids have their KG interviews almost a year before attending K1, in 1 yr 2 yr olds will make big changes. From other topics CCKG interview is so simple that I cannot see the how they choose...so I guess more like connection or religious affiliation is more important.
作者: Piaget 時間: 09-12-7 17:15
1) KV
2) Victoria
3) SC
原帖由 huielaine 於 09-12-5 15:38 發表
how would you rank these offers?
作者: granddelsol 時間: 09-12-7 17:59
Victoria --> KV --> SC
作者: Bilobi 時間: 09-12-7 23:43
SC > KV > Victoria
SC and KV are both strong in academics. English standard of Victoria is quite good but my friend (whose's son is studying in Vic) told that the general standard of the school is not that high when she compared it with SC & KV. Also, it can be reflected in the P1 admission result of the three schools.
When you look at Victoria's, not many kids are admitted to top schools. Most pupils go to Vic's primary school. But if those parents intend to let children go for international curriculum, why not go for "more famous" int's schools?
SC & KV are of the same rank. Personally prefer SC cause of its better English environment and more lively curriculum. Just personal views.
作者: granddelsol 時間: 09-12-8 09:49
I don't agree the placement result of Victoria is not as good as SC & KV. People go to vic's p1 are only their choices but doesn't mean that's the only option.
Talking about in Kowloon side, there is only HMT campus with 100 students graduated in a year. Compare with SC & KV got 600 each... definitely more students can be accepted by the so-called famous schools you mentioned. I have friends' kids are studying at SC and KV, heard that still have a lot of people can't get what they wanna at the end.
作者: jaycee_mami 時間: 09-12-8 10:27
如果要三揀一, 我一定會選KV, 因為我覺得你一日留係香港讀書, 入傳統小學的機會都會較大, 所以選KV在課程上和課室服從性上較易適應. SC係好, 學生很smart英文又好, 但我覺得學好中文和數學更重要, 因為英文唔好可以靠外面補習, 但中文較難補習, 而且中文較英文更難學好.
另外, 如果我無打算俾bb讀國際學校或到外國讀書, 我唔會俾小朋友讀victoria. 因為近日有睇"小一選校"那版, 睇到唔少victoria家長話該校課程好難銜接傳統小學, 而且最大問題係, victoria的小朋友比較好動活潑, 在小學面試坐定定答問題時表現會無咁好 (這些係我在"小一選校"那邊睇番黎). 我同意那邊家長所講, "discipline"先係小一面試的致勝關鍵, 這方面KV學生相信會有優勢.
不過如果大家打算小朋友長大後到外國升學, 升小時又想搵D行IB課程的小學, 如保良局蔡繼有和啟思小學, victoria都係好的選擇, 因為英文環境和英文師資確實很好. 不過行IB課程的小學一般學費較貴, 這點都要考慮清楚.
作者: ic07 時間: 09-12-8 10:30 標題: 回覆 20# Bilobi 的文章
Hi, you mentioned - "Also, it can be reflected in the P1 admission result of the three schools".
in fact, only Victoria announces their admission result online. how do you know SC & KV's result. 我從未見過呢兩間的入學資料, 只是我們一未在猜猜猜... 盲目跟從; 如有此項資料的話, 你可以告訴我們嗎??
起碼我們可以從網站看到Vic 的升學資料. 老實說, 各位媽媽, 我們經過st cat interview 後, 一點也不欣賞. 現實到死.父母讀名中小學就一定收硬!!! (話之你讀邊間大學喔... 因為根本不給你填!!!!) 邊有幼稚園就那麼市繪?????
作者: JulyJo 時間: 09-12-8 11:19
Personally, ranking among these school is not so important. Most important is what u target for your kid's primary shool. It's true that KV has much homework in K3 (around 3 every day) and (around 4 to 5 for weekend) but in fact all homeworks can be finish with 45mins. It really provide a good training for students to do homework by themself. My daughter now at K3 and she said she has so much test on english, maths and chinese but she love to go to school because of her nice teacher. I believe that most students graduated from KV do not feel any diffciulities in study local primary 1. The academic of KV is really not bad.
作者: charmmykitty 時間: 09-12-8 17:21
kkyyho,
你錯誤理解我的意思, 我指SC(班房比KV迫，商業化得來質素一般，照顧欠周到), 而你所引的資料是"師生比例", 跟我所提到的是兩個範疇來的。
作者: NICOLE123 時間: 09-12-8 17:30
原帖由 jaycee_mami 於 09-12-8 10:27 發表
如果要三揀一, 我一定會選KV, 因為我覺得你一日留係香港讀書, 入傳統小學的機會都會較大, 所以選KV在課程上和課室服從性上較易適應. SC係好, 學生很smart英文又好, 但我覺得學好中文和數學更重要, 因為英文唔好可以 ...
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作者: 小曳人 時間: 09-12-8 17:51
原帖由 granddelsol 於 09-12-8 09:49 發表
I don't agree the placement result of Victoria is not as good as SC & KV. People go to vic's p1 are only their choices but doesn't mean that's the only option.
Talking about in Kowloon side, there ...
同意SC/KV人多.. 入好學校嘅人頭會多d
但係你都可以去小一嗰邊睇睇.. 維記今年d成績真係..
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作者: 2-lala 時間: 09-12-8 17:52
想問維多利亞課程是否淺(compare with sc, kv)? 對考直資or私校 (p1) 是否沒有kv那麼好?
thanks
作者: ranicanice 時間: 09-12-9 00:32
Victoria is a school where you could be able to find quite a number of suitable activities organized for children. All of these could surely help develop their interest in exploring and learning the world This is important to children in the long-run as they need to learn life-long.
And this is exactly the mission of the school, as far as i know.
However, the fact is that some parents would ideally think that going to Victoria or schools like this would mean that the school could certainly help their children to fit in "traditional" primary schools in Hong Kong, like taking a "through train" or do everything for them to "fix" their children. They may be too naive.
As parents in Hong Kong, we need to learn how to work even harder to help our children to become "perfect" kids besides the teaching of the school.
On the other hand, if the Primary 1 results of Victoria are not good this year, the school would have to face the reality that some of their best students would quit after K1 or even K2. And if things go in this way, years after years, their reputation may possibly go down.,
Their policies should change now! For example, they could add some more interview training sessions by the end of K2 or even the teachers could allocate more time in class to stress the importance of "sitting still" in class for children. This might be a bit helpful and would not be contradictory to their "mission".
Victoria in these years have spent a lot of time and money designing the school curriculum, improving the school environment. Toys, books are new, clean and hygienic. Their teachers' quality are above the average in terms of their attitude and qualifications. Things are quite organized. And this is comparable to some renowned schools in KLN. Tong.
I support Vic. (judgment based on relatives/friends experience)
作者: smartmatt 時間: 09-12-9 01:40
原帖由 JulyJo 於 09-12-8 11:19 發表
Personally, ranking among these school is not so important. Most important is what u target for your kid's primary shool. It's true that KV has much homework in K3 (around 3 every day) and (around 4 ...
My girl is also in KV K3 and 3 hmwk a day is very natural as the 3 main subjects are taught. Hmwk is used to reinforce what is taught in school. I don't think this is a lot of hmwk, if other KG have less then its not KV has lots but others have too few. And, my girl also completes her hmwk very fast - I don't know the actual time spent as she also teaches the maid to write Chinese. But, change of clothes, lunch, hmwk, playing with little brother is completed within 2 hrs of returning home. We have 30 min revision each day. 4 dictations a week. All this is eating choi for my girl, as she is so used to it.
Going to particular KGs will not guarantee your kid a specific place in P, unless connected such GH. The P1 interview process is even more severe then the Kg interview process. There are many variables such as interview performance, character of your kid, interviewer, etc.
You should really focus on what your suits your kid and you when choosing a KG (for those lucky to choices). We choose KV for academic standards, conduct and manner, simple school without too much ECA. It was a gamble we took as our girl is not what you consider the academic type, i.e. she can never sit still and is always constantly moving, dancing, singing, her mind is in an imaginary world. Our gamble is working out pretty well as she is a very well behaved in school and very helpful to other kids. She is not a top student but not far, she loves to go to school, thinks world of her teachers, enjoys learning and seeks to learn even more, takes every opportunity to speak English and PTH, and off course loves singing. If there was a complaint with KV is that more PTH would be better.
We are also looking forward to our son starting at KV next year.
作者: charmmykitty 時間: 09-12-9 09:21
"Victoria in these years have spent a lot of time and money designing the school curriculum, improving the school environment...... Their teachers' quality are above the average in terms of their attitude and qualifications ...... And this is comparable to some renowned schools in KLN. Tong."
絕對認同!
我是SC畢業生, 現在阿B在 Victoria 讀, 發覺到兩間係不同類型的學校, 以前社會的背景是需要SC這類學校的教育, 因為教學制度都是傾向"死記硬背", 如今社會, 著重創意思維、探索精神,。
就好似"新高中學制" 通識教育科已列為必修科, 這一科係唔可以死讀的, 是考學生的分析及批判能力; 中國語文科已不用考課文問答, 不用再要求學生背問答, 是考學生語文能力及分析能力, 當中卷五係考學生綜合能力, 這些跟以前傳統的教育方針有很大的分別。這正正反映出現時的教育新方向。好似 Victoria, Think 一類學校就是朝著這方向而行, 而非只是可以銜接"國際學校"課程, 我有不少朋友是選這類型的學校, 佢地的子女選完幼稚園都可以考到心儀的小學, 如聖保祿、德望、真光等。香港的教育已變得貼近國際的需要, "填鴨式"教育將會絕跡了! 現在不少歷史悠久的"名校" 已改變它們的教學方向, 因為這個已是大勢所趨。
這三間都是好學校, 當然, 唔同的家長, 有不同的要求。對於我而言, 我會將目光放遠些, 所以安排阿B讀所謂非傳統的學校------Victoria。
原帖由 ranicanice 於 09-12-9 00:32 發表
Victoria is a school where you could be able to find quite a number of suitable activities organized for children. All of these could surely help develop their interest in exploring and learning the w ...
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作者: jaycee_mami 時間: 09-12-9 09:33
原帖由 charmmykitty 於 09-12-9 09:21 發表
"Victoria in these years have spent a lot of time and money designing the school curriculum, improving the school environment...... Their teachers' quality are above the average in terms of their atti ...
"新高中制"無錯係需要創意思維, 是有點改變, 但底層的小學制度似乎仲係原地踏步, 仍然同我地二十年前差唔多, 依然係填鴨式教育, 而且著重服從性的課室管理. 為左穩陣起見, 還是選傳統小學的人居多.
作者: ngmyan 時間: 09-12-9 09:38
Then for comparing Think and Victoria, which one will you prefer?
原帖由 charmmykitty 於 09-12-9 09:21 發表
"Victoria in these years have spent a lot of time and money designing the school curriculum, improving the school environment...... Their teachers' quality are above the average in terms of their atti ...
作者: charmmykitty 時間: 09-12-9 10:10
Hi ngmyan,
Think --- 我沒有親身經驗, 不敢妄下判斷。不過, 有朋友個仔讀緊, 口碑不錯, 老師跟得好足, 時常跟她有聯絡, 所以好清楚知道阿仔在學校的情況, 而且佢話仔仔讀得好開心, 好喜歡返學。
原帖由 ngmyan 於 09-12-9 09:38 發表
Then for comparing Think and Victoria, which one will you prefer?
作者: ngmyan 時間: 09-12-9 11:18
Thanks Charmmykitty,
I am very headache in choosing the kinder coz my hb is a singaporean and we may have to go back singapore after her kinder. Therefore we need to choose the kinder with mandarin and english base school.
Since school there is very strict, I am really afraid that for "free" developing environment will make my gal too free that cannot adapt to the new environment.
I know that both Victoria, Think are good school, just that becoz of my concern I need to consider which one will suit my gal more.
Thanks a lot for your advice.
原帖由 charmmykitty 於 09-12-9 10:10 發表
Hi ngmyan,
Think --- 我沒有親身經驗, 不敢妄下判斷。不過, 有朋友個仔讀緊, 口碑不錯, 老師跟得好足, 時常跟她有聯絡, 所以好清楚知道阿仔在學校的情況, 而且佢話仔仔讀得好開心, 好喜歡返學。
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作者: vancouver 時間: 09-12-11 23:13
原帖由 ic07 於 09-12-8 10:30 發表
Hi, you mentioned - "Also, it can be reflected in the P1 admission result of the three schools".
in fact, only Victoria announces their admission result online. how do you know SC & KV's result. 我從 ...
My son is admitted to Victoria and will attend N next year. I also brought my son to St Cat for interview... as this Mom said, I don't really appreciate the way the interview was organized. My husband and I are dentist and university lecturer, St Cat didn't give me an offer, so I guess they won't give offer ONLY to those professionals... but all I can say is my son had a "playgroup like" interview at Victoria, the 3 teachers assessed my son during that half an hour through different games and activities/songs... I am sure they had a much better understanding of my son than what St Cat did...
作者: shootingstar 時間: 09-12-12 08:38
victoria英文係好, 但我見佢地行IB, 如果唔打算讀國際學校或有IB課程的學校 (香港得很少這些學校), 揀SC/KV將來升小學會有多d選擇, 而且我見小學的討論區, 有victoria家長話考傳統小學的成績唔係太理想, 咁選SC/KV可能穩陣d.
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