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作者: hui916 時間: 09-12-2 18:03 標題: 名校會考成績一覽

以下是一些今年會考奪A統計(資料來源：星島日報，各校網頁)

L.S    390A/273人    人均1.42A
SPCC  366A/166人    人均2.20A
DBS 350A/ 234人人均 1.49A
QC    292A/196人    人均1.48A

手上沒有DGS的資料. St. Paul Co-ed雖然今年沒有10狀元, 但水準最平均. 每人平均考取2.2個A!

上述四間名校取了1398個A都幾厲害!

作者: littlemak 時間: 09-12-2 18:35 標題: 回覆 1# hui916 的文章

any info abt YingWa? SSCPS? Raimondi college? and other famous school?
interested to know.

作者: hui916 時間: 09-12-2 18:53

明報出的09/10升中

選校全攻略，當中有2008 HKCEE最佳6科14分or above的percentage，部份學校資料如下:

SPCC – 94%
Cheung Chuk Shan College – 88.4%
St Mary – 86.6%
BPS – 85.9%
Ying Wa Girl – 85.5%
Marymount – 80.8%
St Joseph – 75.9%
DBS – 74.1%
Ying Wa – 71%
Wah Yan HK – 66.4%

DGS, LS, QC未有提供上述資料。

另外從明報出的09/10升中

選校全攻略及SPCC website得知QC 2008年有24尖子，SPCC- 21，St Joseph- 14，DBS- 11，BPS -10，Wah Yan HK- 9，Cheung Chuk Shan- 6，St Mary- 4。

SPCC今年雖然只有88%最佳6科14分，但是整體而言十分好：22尖子，366A (2.2 per head in average) ，752 B&C (4.5 per head in average) ，30%考生英文5* (雖較上年40%遜色，但上年Marymount是24.6%，St Mary – 20.1%， St Joseph – 16.2%，Ying Wa Girl – 15.1%，DBS – 15%，Wah Yan HK – 9.4%，Cheung Chuk Shan – 5.0%；The whole territory average is only 1.6%)。

作者: Passerby 時間: 09-12-2 19:33

原帖由 hui916 於 09-12-2 18:03 發表
以下是一些今年會考奪A統計(資料來源：星島日報，各校網頁)

L.S    390A/273人    人均1.42A
SPCC  366A/166人    人均2.20A
DBS 350A/ 234人人均 1.49A
QC    292A/196人    人均1.48A

手上沒有DGS ...

根據學校網頁提供的資料，今年這幾間學校的會考成績應該如下:

LSC 390A/277人    人均1.40A 尖子人數不詳
SPCC  369A/166人    人均2.22A 24名尖子
DBS 352A/208人    人均1.69A 26名尖子
QC    292A/194人    人均1.50A 18名子

作者: belle 時間: 09-12-2 19:54

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作者: ec1338 時間: 09-12-3 10:17

乜張竹珊咁勁架咩?

原帖由 hui916 於 09-12-2 18:53 發表
明報出的09/10升中http://ads.baby-kingdom.com/www/delivery/avw.php?zoneid=37&bannerid=77&cb=11224464&n=a136fd04選校全攻略，當中有2008 HKCEE最佳6科14分or above的percentage，部份學校資料如下:

SPCC – 94%
Ch ...

作者: aa120520 時間: 09-12-3 10:30

原帖由 ec1338 於 09-12-3 10:17 發表
乜張竹珊咁勁架咩?

Yes, of course. You are not lived in HK side?

作者: ggoo 時間: 09-12-3 10:45

張祝珊一向好勁,聽聞會考25分都冇得原校上中六,好似話原校升中六要28分或以上先得.唔知是米真既呢.

作者: aupatrick 時間: 09-12-3 10:45

St. Paul Co-ed 真係好好.

作者: vienpa 時間: 09-12-3 10:51

見到個topic, 都分享下係網上搵到% in 6科14分資料(2008) for 部份band 1 學校

%
79.50 寶血會上智英文書院
85.90 庇理羅士女子中學
88.40 張祝珊英文中學
71.08 嘉諾撒聖心書院
79.10 聖士提反女子中學
75.90 聖若瑟英文書院
82.50 皇仁書院
81.00 瑪利曼中學
75.80 嘉諾撒聖方濟各書院
71.00 喇沙書院
74.00 保良局第一張永慶中學
79.20 聖公會林護紀念中學
87.70 道教聯合會鄧顯紀念中學
85.40 聖公會曾肇添中學
78.70 沙田崇真中學
78.60 浸信會呂明才中學
75.00 沙田培英中學
93.60 聖保羅男女中學
74.00 拔萃男書院
85.50 英華女學校
86.60 嘉諾撒聖瑪利書院
75.00 伊利沙伯中學

數據如有錯,請指正..

作者: cheque 時間: 09-12-3 10:55 標題: Many Thanks!!

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作者: lbb 時間: 09-12-3 11:01

Please adv which date and which newspapers have this information.

作者: flostangraphy 時間: 09-12-3 11:15

wahooo.... examination machine factory.

原帖由 hui916 於 2/12/2009 18:53 發表
明報出的09/10升中http://ads.baby-kingdom.com/www/ ... 4464&n=a136fd04選校全攻略，當中有2008 HKCEE最佳6科14分or above的percentage，部份學校資料如下:

SPCC – 94%
Ch ...

作者: VKwan 時間: 09-12-3 11:38

原帖由 vienpa 於 09-12-3 10:51 發表
見到個topic, 都分享下係網上搵到% in 6科14分資料(2008) for 部份band 1 學校

%
79.50       寶血會上智英文書院
85.90       庇理羅士女子中學
88.40       張祝珊英文中學
71.08       嘉諾撒聖心書院
79.10       聖士提反女子中學
...

除左少數頂級既學校真正實至名歸(例：spcc)，查實地區名校仲勁！

作者: VKwan 時間: 09-12-3 11:40

原帖由 ec1338 於 09-12-3 10:17 發表
乜張竹珊咁勁架咩?

張祝珊勁左好多年架啦！

作者: fsforth 時間: 09-12-3 11:53

原帖由 vienpa 於 09-12-3 10:51 發表
見到個topic, 都分享下係網上搵到% in 6科14分資料(2008) for 部份band 1 學校

%
79.50       寶血會上智英文書院
85.90       庇理羅士女子中學
88.40       張祝珊英文中學
71.08       嘉諾撒聖心書院
79.10       聖士提反女子中學
...

有無St. Stephen?

作者: vienpa 時間: 09-12-3 12:04

原帖由 fsforth 於 09-12-3 11:53 發表

有無St. Stephen?

無呢間資料, 其實好多學校都唔會o系校網公佈..

作者: Passerby 時間: 09-12-3 12:10 標題: 回覆 8# ggoo 的文章

二百個中五考生，只得六十個中六學位，當然要求高。否則，如何確保百分百入大學率。

作者: waiwaibaba 時間: 09-12-3 12:10

原帖由 VKwan 於 09-12-3 11:40 發表
張祝珊勁左好多年架啦！

In term of external exam results 張祝珊 may be V good but the results of their sports and other ECA are really....

Also, they offer only 60 places for F6 out of 200 F5 students -far below other famous schools to maintain impressive ALE.

作者: f0569 時間: 09-12-3 12:19

寶血會上智英文書院

原帖由 vienpa 於 09-12-3 10:51 發表
見到個topic, 都分享下係網上搵到% in 6科14分資料(2008) for 部份band 1 學校

%
79.50       寶血會上智英文書院
85.90       庇理羅士女子中學
88.40       張祝珊英文中學
71.08       嘉諾撒聖心書院
79.10       聖士提反女子中學
...

作者: PMma 時間: 09-12-3 12:20

I can't find DGS in the list either........

I always think that this kind of statistics on school academic performance is biased.

Boys and girls have different strengths on different kinds of subjects.  Co-ed schools, with combination of the two sexes in the school population, have the advantage of "pooling effect" in such kind of % calculation.

On the contrary, the results of the boys schools, including the very famous ones, appear relatively poorer.  It doesn't mean that the boys are poorer academically.  It is perhaps because boys are often less "all-round" but more concentrated in few subjects.

原帖由 vienpa 於 09-12-3 12:04 發表

無呢間資料, 其實好多學校都唔會o系校網公佈..

作者: Passerby 時間: 09-12-3 12:34 標題: 回覆 13# flostangraphy 的文章

這是現今香港教育制度下的必然產物。

作者: AugSun 時間: 09-12-3 12:34

Anybody know about St. Clare?

Thanks

原帖由 waiwaibaba 於 09-12-3 12:10 發表

In term of external exam results 張祝珊 may be V good but the results of their sports and other ECA are really.... Also, they offer only 60 places for F6 out of 200 F5 students -far below o ...

作者: Passerby 時間: 09-12-3 12:40

HKCCE 2009 results of DGS :

No. of candidates sat: 147
No. of subjects listed: 21
Total entries of English and Chinese Languages: 293
No. of 5*-4: 236 (80.6 %)
Total entries of other subjects: 1073
No. of distinctions and credits: 812 (75.7%)

Subject	Percentage of Girls Getting 5*-4 or A-C	Overall Pass Percentage
English Language	98.0%	100%
Chinese Language	63.0%	99.3%
Mathematics	86.4%	98.6%

作者: wynma 時間: 09-12-3 13:26

請問咩成績才可成為尖子呀? Thanks!

原帖由 Passerby 於 09-12-2 19:33 發表

根據學校網頁提供的資料，今年這幾間學校的會考成績應該如下:

LSC 390A/277人    人均1.40A 尖子人數不詳
SPCC  369A/166人    人均2.22A 24名尖子
DBS 352A/208人    人均1.69A 26名尖子
QC    2 ...

作者: bakusensei 時間: 09-12-3 13:44

原帖由 wynma 於 09-12-3 13:26 發表
請問咩成績才可成為尖子呀? Thanks!

6A (for Eng Lang and Chi Lang: A=5*)

作者: cmchang0927 時間: 09-12-3 14:08

Indeed it's true! My friend's sister studied there, she got 28, just the last few to get the seat.........

原帖由 ggoo 於 09-12-3 10:45 發表
張祝珊一向好勁,聽聞會考25分都冇得原校上中六,好似話原校升中六要28分或以上先得.唔知是米真既呢.

作者: jeremyphlam 時間: 09-12-3 14:16

原帖由 VKwan 於 09-12-3 11:38 發表
除左少數頂級既學校真正實至名歸(例：spcc)，查實地區名校仲勁！

成績重要，但有d嘢係地區名校永遠畀唔到的！

作者: nicoletsui1212 時間: 09-12-3 14:49

原帖由 vienpa 於 09-12-3 10:51 發表
見到個topic, 都分享下係網上搵到% in 6科14分資料(2008) for 部份band 1 學校

%
79.50       寶血會上智英文書院
85.90       庇理羅士女子中學
88.40       張祝珊英文中學
71.08       嘉諾撒聖心書院
79.10       聖士提反女子中學
...

Pls kindly send the website to me, thanks.

作者: wootaitai 時間: 09-12-3 14:50

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作者: hui916 時間: 09-12-3 15:11

The HKCEE is in the process of being phased out over the next few years.

However there will be another exam in place to replace HKCEE. I do believe those schools used to do well in HKCEE will continue to be among the top performers. As long as they get outstanding students, they would still have edge on any type of exams.

作者: Passerby 時間: 09-12-3 15:13 標題: 回覆 30# wootaitai 的文章

HKCEE and HKALE will be replaced by Hong Kong Diploma of Secondary Education. The new 3-3-4 academic structure (3 yrs. junior secondary, 3 yrs. senior secondary and 4 yrs. university) will replace the existing curriculum.

作者: bakusensei 時間: 09-12-3 15:16

原帖由 hui916 於 09-12-3 15:11 發表
The HKCEE is in the process of being phased out over the next few years.

However there will be another exam in place to replace HKCEE. I do believe those schools used to do well in HKCEE will contin ...

agree :)

作者: hui916 時間: 09-12-3 15:17

張祝珊的成績確實不比一些傳統名校遜色. 由於大部份的學生只考8科, 它不會出產會考狀元, 所以媒体沒有報道.

其實只要有6A, 就可以通過尖子計劃進入最好的大學的最好的學科, 無必要考9科或10科.

原帖由 cmchang0927 於 09-12-3 14:08 發表
Indeed it's true! My friend's sister studied there, she got 28, just the last few to get the seat.........

作者: Cutema 時間: 09-12-3 15:33

delete.....

[ 本帖最後由 Cutema 於 09-12-3 15:36 編輯 ]

作者: hui916 時間: 09-12-3 16:01

目前教署沒有要求香港中學公佈會考成績. 採取的是Voluntary Disclosure, 即自願性披露.

如果校方不願意透露資料, 只能從其他途徑打聽.

原帖由 vienpa 於 09-12-3 12:04 發表

無呢間資料, 其實好多學校都唔會o系校網公佈..

作者: ysnmama 時間: 09-12-3 16:09

不少傳統名校如女拔, 瑪莉諾, 華仁, 協恩, 德望也不見在當中?

作者: vienpa 時間: 09-12-3 16:17

原帖由 hui916 於 09-12-3 16:01 發表
目前教署沒有要求香港中學公佈會考成績. 採取的是Voluntary Disclosure, 即自願性披露.

如果校方不願意透露資料, 只能從其他途徑打聽.

是, 所以只能從學校網頁(如有披露)得知, 或從bk裡找
http://forum.edu-kingdom.com/viewthread.php?tid=2141081&extra=page%3D1&page=1, 好多頁, 慢慢睇就搵都相關學校資料..

作者: wunma 時間: 09-12-3 16:29

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作者: littlemak 時間: 09-12-3 16:32 標題: 回覆 15# VKwan 的文章

yes, agree.
"張祝珊勁左好多年架啦"
but my best friend (who graduated from this sec school, and got excellant exam results and finally got scholarship) said she would never let her child study here, because there is only "study study and study" in her memory. she said, all her classmates are only studying all the time, all the topics of discussion are also about study study, exam and results, nothing else, no sports or music or sth funny in the life, very boring.
i don't know whether it is true nowadays, as she was talking abt 2x years ago.

作者: hui916 時間: 09-12-3 16:42

沒錯, 張祝珊是出晒名谷成績的學校, 而且唔係一般谷, 是非常人可以承受的壓力.

另外, 學校沒有任何課外活動. 但不知近年是否有所改變. 各位家長應該聞所未聞一間學校竟然冇任何課外活動.

原帖由 littlemak 於 09-12-3 16:32 發表
yes, agree.
"張祝珊勁左好多年架啦"
but my best friend (who graduated from this sec school, and got excellant exam results and finally got scholarship) said she would never let her child study here, b ...

作者: littlemak 時間: 09-12-3 17:02 標題: 回覆 16# fsforth 的文章

fsforth,

for st stephen school report on website:

does this info help?
2007 band 1 : 48% band 2 : 45%
2008 band 1 : 64% band 2 : 27%

a total of 96/98 pri student got offer to the sec school.

作者: cmchang0927 時間: 09-12-3 17:02

I think NONE is not true. Cos' when I was in F.2(haha, abt 18 yrs ago), I was one of the school choir member and I clearly remembered that I saw the school choir from CSS also anticipated in the music festival competition. So I think at least they have a school choir!

And I think why they are so sucessful in HKCEE. Cos' they start to do the HKCEE pass paper when they are in F.3. Also, when the teacher teaches one or two pages of something, they will hold a little quiz on that, so make the students keep revising their stuff frequently.

原帖由 hui916 於 09-12-3 16:42 發表
沒錯, 張祝珊是出晒名谷成績的學校, 而且唔係一般谷, 是非常人可以承受的壓力.

另外, 學校沒有任何課外活動. 但不知近年是否有所改變. 各位家長應該聞所未聞一間學校竟然冇任何課外活動.

...

作者: hui916 時間: 09-12-3 17:07

以是是我查到的2006年全港各區會考資料. 最近的資料暫時拿不到:

地區                學校          會考最佳六科平均分數
東區             張祝珊英文中學 22.8
                  庇理羅士女子中學 19.4
                  金文泰中學 18.4
                  香港中國婦女會中學 17
                  聖馬可中學 16.9
                  寶血女子中學 15.3
                  嘉諾撒書院 13.4
                  筲箕灣官立中學 11.5

灣仔             聖保祿中學 18.3
                  皇仁書院 17.4
                  聖保祿學校 17.1
                  嘉諾撒聖方濟各書院 16.7
                  瑪利曼中學 16
                  香港真光中學 15.4
                  何東中學 14.4
                  香港華仁書院 14.1
                  玫瑰崗學校 7

中西區          聖保羅男女中學 22.5
                  聖士提反女子中學 20.1
                  英皇書院 19.1
                  聖若瑟英文書院 18.8
                  英華女學校 16.8
                  聖類斯中學 16.6
                  聖嘉勒女書院 15.7
                  高主教書院 15.3
                  聖保羅書院 15

南區             嘉諾撒聖心書院 19.5
                  聖公會呂明才中學 18
                  香港真光書院 14.5
                  嘉諾撒培德書院 13.7
                  聖士提反書院 11.6

油尖旺          保良局莊啟程預科書院 21.4
                  拔萃女書院 20.3
                  嘉諾撒聖瑪利書院 19
                  循道中學 18.8
                  中華基督教會銘基書院 16.9
                  伊利沙伯中學 16.8
                  華仁書院（九龍） 16.7
                  真光女書院 15.2

深水土步       寶血會上智英文書院 20.1
                  長沙灣天主教英文中學 19.3
                  英華書院 18
                  中華基督教會銘賢書院 17.8
                  香島中學 17.3
                  瑪利諾神父教會學校 15.7
                  德雅中學 15
                  佛教大雄中學 13.6
                  聖母玫瑰書院 11.7
                  德貞女子中學 11.6

觀塘             聖言中學 21.5
                  觀塘官立中學 17.2
                  藍田聖保祿中學 16.7
                  聖傑靈女子中學 16
                  順利天主教中學 15
                  聖安當女書院 14.1
                  梁式芝書院 10.2

九龍城          拔萃男書院 22.2
                  喇沙書院 21.7
                  瑪利諾修院學校（中學部） 20.7
                  基督教女青年會丘佐榮中學 19.6
                  協恩中學 18.7
                  何文田官立中學 18.4
                  香港培正中學 17.9
                  旅港開平商會中學 17.3
                  民生書院 15.9
                  華英中學 15.7
                  九龍真光中學 15.6
                  東華三院黃笏南中學 14.9
                  香港培道中學 13.1
                  何明華會督銀禧中學 12.9
                  嘉諾撒聖家書院 12.2
                  迦密中學 12.1

黃大仙          保良局第一張永慶中學 22.5
                  可立中學（嗇色園主辦） 19.5
                  德望學校 17.4
                  中華基督教會協和書院 16.2
                  聖母書院 11.9

屯門             順德聯誼總會梁銶琚中學 21
                  保良局百周年李兆忠紀念中學 20.8
                  保良局董玉娣中學 17.9
                  南屯門官立中學 16.6
                  仁愛堂田家炳中學 16.6
                  屯門天主教中學 15.9
                  宣道中學 15.8
      香港九龍塘基督教中華宣道會陳瑞芝紀念中學 14.1

元朗             新界鄉議局元朗區中學 20.8
                  天主教崇德英文書院 20.6
                  元朗商會中學 20.5
                  趙聿修紀念中學 20.4
                  元朗信義中學 16.7
                  東華三院盧幹庭紀念中學 13.6

北區             香港道教聯合會鄧顯紀念中學 24.5
                  東華三院李嘉誠中學 21.3
                  東華三院甲寅年總理中學 19
                  田家炳中學 15.8
                  聖公會陳融中學 15.6

西貢             將軍澳官立中學 18.8
                  迦密主恩中學 16.9

沙田             沙田官立中學 20.4
                  保良局胡忠中學 20
                  恒生商學書院 19.5
                  聖公會曾肇添中學 19.3
                  沙田循道衛理中學 18.7
                  浸信會呂明才中學 18.4
                  沙田培英中學 18.3
                  聖母無玷聖心書院 17.2
                  五旬節林漢光中學 16.6
                  聖公會林裘謀中學 16.5
                  沙田蘇浙公學 16.3
                  樂善堂楊葛小琳中學 13.6
                  天主教郭得勝中學 13.6
                  聖羅撒書院 13

大埔             沐恩中學 19.4
                  聖公會莫壽增會督中學 19.3
                  王肇枝中學 18.6
                  迦密柏雨中學 17.7
                  救恩書院 16.2
                  恩主教書院 15.6
                  羅定邦中學 15.3

荃灣          荃灣公立何傳耀紀念中學 22.5
                  荃灣官立中學 17.9
                  可風中學（嗇色園主辦） 15.4

葵青             順德聯誼總會李兆基中學 19.6
                  中華傳道會安柱中學 18.6
                  聖公會林護紀念中學 17.7
                  東華三院伍若瑜夫人紀念中學 16.8
                  保祿六世書院 13.7
                  保良局八三年總理中學 13.6
                  天主教母佑會蕭明中學 13.5
                  佛教善德英文中學 12.3
                  皇仁舊生會中學 10.8

作者: bakusensei 時間: 09-12-3 17:16

原帖由 wunma 於 09-12-3 16:29 發表
註: 2008年喇沙拔尖人數有30人.

thanks for your clarification n information :)

是不是傳說中全班拔尖那一屆?

作者: wunma 時間: 09-12-3 17:22

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作者: fsforth 時間: 09-12-3 17:24 標題: 回覆 44# hui916 的文章

"聖士提反書院 11.6"
學費連宿舍10萬元一年!

作者: hui916 時間: 09-12-3 17:28 標題: 回覆 1# fsforth 的文章

據聞此校有很多學生到國外升學, 故影響了會考成績.

此外, 它剛轉直資, 之前係津校收生無自主權, 成績當然唔得啦! 情況跟華仁差不到.

作者: fsforth 時間: 09-12-3 17:28

原帖由 littlemak 於 09-12-3 17:02 發表
fsforth,

for st stephen school report on website:

does this info help?
2007 band 1 : 48% band 2 : 45%
2008 band 1 : 64% band 2 : 27%

a total of 96/98 pri student got offer to the sec school. ...

the primary school is not bad, but the HKCEE result was terrible!

作者: hui916 時間: 09-12-3 17:34

強調愉快學習的學校一般成績都唔會好!

試想想, 我哋成年人工作, 如果沒有壓力, 一般唔會勤力做嘢. 何況係小朋友!

原帖由 fsforth 於 09-12-3 17:28 發表

the primary school is not bad, but the HKCEE result was terrible!

作者: wootaitai 時間: 09-12-3 17:34

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作者: hui916 時間: 09-12-3 17:38

呢間嘢唔知做么鬼, 以前都幾有名, 但愈做愈差. 而家直情無人提, 遲早俾人殺校!

原帖由 wootaitai 於 09-12-3 17:34 發表
玫瑰崗學校 7 --> wow that's the worst possible school in HK! does that mean average is F?

作者: 大家樂 時間: 09-12-3 17:40

原帖由 hui916 於 09-12-3 17:07 發表
以是是我查到的2006年全港各區會考資料. 最近的資料暫時拿不到:

地區                學校          會考最佳六科平均分數
東區             張祝珊英文中學 22.8
                  庇理羅士女子 ...

會考最佳六科平均分數

恒生商學書院 19.5 ????

保良局莊啟程預科書院 21.4 ?????

作者: littlemak 時間: 09-12-3 17:57 標題: 回覆 49# fsforth 的文章

fsforth,
don't worry too much.
SSCPS should be improving. as the HKCEE results quoted above is 2006.
same situation as RC, it is improving much in recent 2 years.

作者: siufu 時間: 09-12-3 18:01

近兩年恒商應該大躍進, 無 25 分都應該唔駛諗...

原帖由 大家樂 於 09-12-3 17:40 發表

會考最佳六科平均分數

恒生商學書院 19.5 ????

保良局莊啟程預科書院 21.4 ?????

作者: waiwaibaba 時間: 09-12-3 18:18

原帖由 siufu 於 09-12-3 18:01 發表
近兩年恒商應該大躍進, 無 25 分都應該唔駛諗...

In my days (80s), HS S of Commerce is like nowadays 毅進 and all top maths students go for engineering (peer pressure I think)

作者: judy 時間: 09-12-3 18:26

原帖由 hui916 於 09-12-3 17:07 發表
以是是我查到的2006年全港各區會考資料. 最近的資料暫時拿不到:

地區                學校          會考最佳六科平均分數
東區             張祝珊英文中學 22.8
                  庇理羅士女子 ...

呢個榜出自何處？可信嗎？

作者: hui916 時間: 09-12-3 18:30

據聞是2006年星島日報刊登. 很多網站都有轉載.

原帖由 judy 於 09-12-3 18:26 發表

呢個榜出自何處？可信嗎？

作者: littlemak 時間: 09-12-3 18:32 標題: 回覆 48# hui916 的文章

sorry, i don't agree on this point.

you see la salle, it can't choose its student, then why can it train up students of all kinds to become top in the sec sch?

(clarify: i like SSC a lot and i give up the lucky draw of la salle already. i am not a fans of la salle)

also, it is a fact that lots of students go abroad to study and make the no. of F.5 students drop a lot compare with F.4 students. but statiscally, it should not be a factor because we take the % rather than the actual number.

so, i also want to know why the sec school results were like this few years ago.

作者: littlemak 時間: 09-12-3 18:39 標題: 回覆 49# fsforth 的文章

fsforth,
i agree,
high cost of school fee and boarding fee, far from home site, .........
applying for pri school mainly for having the through-train sec school. but if (i mean, if ) the sec school is not really that worthy, then feeling .........
so better find out the real situation first (e.g. academic results and level)

to me, CKY gives me same good impression as SSCPS for the bilingual environment, just a pity that it runs IB system which i am not familiar and not confident in.

作者: judy 時間: 09-12-3 18:43

原帖由 hui916 於 09-12-3 18:30 發表
據聞是2006年星島日報刊登. 很多網站都有轉載.

星島無可能有咁嘅料！

我怀疑學校都冇！

作者: daisy17772 時間: 09-12-3 18:49

原帖由 littlemak 於 09-12-3 18:39 發表
fsforth,
i agree,
high cost of school fee and boarding fee, far from home site, .........
applying for pri school mainly for having the through-train sec school. but if (i mean, if ) the sec school i ...

But even for CKY, they emphasized "happy learning" and they target for IB. This kind of new school lack of track record and charge high fee. For most int'l school, their primary school is "happy learning" as well, but they could train up their students in high school and enable them to go to top uni in the states/UK.

So if you believe in HKCEE results, then the results do matter, particularly if you plan for your child to study uni here in HK. But for studying abroad, in my personal opinion, results do count, but there're other factors that accountable for achieving good results in uni and be admitted to very top uni.

作者: daisy17772 時間: 09-12-3 18:52

原帖由 littlemak 於 09-12-3 18:32 發表
sorry, i don't agree on this point.

you see la salle, it can't choose its student, then why can it train up students of all kinds to become top in the sec sch?

(clarify: i like SSC a lot and i give ...

I have heard for some years ago that SSCPS's secondary section is not famous for its academic results. It's not new news. What I heard is the current Principal is trying to improve the results and the figures do show this progression.

作者: fsforth 時間: 09-12-3 18:55

原帖由 littlemak 於 09-12-3 18:32 發表
sorry, i don't agree on this point.

you see la salle, it can't choose its student, then why can it train up students of all kinds to become top in the sec sch?

(clarify: i like SSC a lot and i give ...

就算是大部分出國讀書, 也不至於平均分得11分, HKCEE 又D又E點見得人!?

真係要再考慮下成本效益再搵多D資料先決定

作者: hyto 時間: 09-12-3 18:56

很有用的資料。

作者: daisy17772 時間: 09-12-3 18:57

Looking at this statistic, what interests me the most is that some of those so-called traditional good schools do not have higher average score than those not so famous schools, one of which is located in Yuen Long.
It seems co-ed has more better than average results students.

作者: daisy17772 時間: 09-12-3 18:59

原帖由 fsforth 於 09-12-3 18:55 發表

就算是大部分出國讀書, 也不至於平均分得11分, HKCEE 又D又E點見得人!?

真係要再考慮下成本效益再搵多D資料先決定

But I agreed that more effort should be put to have better understanding of the current situation. Maybe we can share more info out for all those who are interested in sscps.

作者: littlemak 時間: 09-12-3 19:02 標題: 回覆 63# daisy17772 的文章

well, i am not too concern abt the %. As chichipapa at another post said, which is very true, that as long as the % is more than 50, it is very good already.
good exam results also depends much on the students (our kids) themselves. the effort they put in. not totally rely on the school reputation.

also, i have a bit doubt abt the reliability of the statistics quoted at mingpao here.

i suddenly found that my mother-sec school at N.T. (not famous at all, in my time!) results is even much much higher than those very famous ones, ha ha ! i dont believe it, haha. even though i didn't go back to visit for 20 years already.

so i query abt the reliability of the statistics.

作者: daisy17772 時間: 09-12-3 19:06

原帖由 littlemak 於 09-12-3 19:02 發表
well, i am not too concern abt the %. As chichipapa at another post said, which is very true, that as long as the % is more than 50, it is very good already.
good exam results also depends much on the ...

I personally not 100% believe in HKCEE results (I meant about this HK exam system, even that this statistics are true), I knew some ppl from top HK uni came to work for me, they were not brilliant. Except that I knew a few with 9/10A, they studied abroad in top uni, they are exceptional and incredibly bright.

[ 本帖最後由 daisy17772 於 09-12-3 19:08 編輯 ]

作者: waiwaibaba 時間: 09-12-3 19:16

原帖由 daisy17772 於 09-12-3 18:57 發表
Looking at this statistic, what interests me the most is that some of those so-called traditional good schools do not have higher average score than those not so famous schools, one of which is locate ...

I think U should assess the strength of a school in totality taking into account, inter alia, the results of sports and music in inter-school competition, I think the traditional famous school still prevail in those areas. Afterall, everyone only has 24 hrs a day and all-round development is critical for admission into top universities globally and future career. BTW 張祝珊 (sorry, use this school as example but this is an extreme case) rank about 60-70 in the co-ed section of 2009 Bank of China Bauhinia Bowl Award and Chong Gene Hang, ranking 7th in the boys section is a Band 3 secondary school.

作者: 大家樂 時間: 09-12-3 20:04

原帖由 siufu 於 09-12-3 18:01 發表
近兩年恒商應該大躍進, 無 25 分都應該唔駛諗...

恆商同莊啟程係預科書院，點會有

會考最佳六科平均分數。

25分係收中六個分黎喎

作者: fsforth 時間: 09-12-3 20:59

原帖由 daisy17772 於 09-12-3 19:06 發表

I personally not 100% believe in HKCEE results (I meant about this HK exam system, even that this statistics are true), I knew some ppl from top HK uni came to work for me, they were not brilliant. ...

我都唔信HKCEE成績, 不過, 我係指就算有"A"都唔代表真係叻, 只要有正常智商, 有心讀書既要有14分其實不是難事

作者: Passerby 時間: 09-12-3 21:11

原帖由 waiwaibaba 於 09-12-3 19:16 發表

I think U should assess the strength of a school in totality taking into account, inter alia, the results of sports and music in inter-school competition, I think the traditional famous school still ...

If taking academic, sports and music into account, I think there are only 2 or 3 schools in Hong Kong are all-round excellent even including international schools.

作者: PMma 時間: 09-12-3 21:27

As far as I know, even in the so called "all-round" excellent schools, the students there are not "all-round" themselves.

Very often, these famous schools "import" students with special talents in sports or music from elsewhere at various grades from time to time. Because of the fame of these schools, it's not difficult to attract these gifted students to join them. Of course, some of them may also do well academically, but they are often not the ones who achieve brilliant academic results for the schools.

原帖由 Passerby 於 09-12-3 21:11 發表

If taking academic, sports and music into account, I think there are only 2 or 3 schools in Hong Kong are all-round excellent even including international schools.

作者: hui916 時間: 09-12-3 21:45 標題: 回覆 8# daisy17772 的文章

St Stephen一直以來成績並非最強, 只不過今年出咗個10A, 令大家有個錯覺. 據聞它只是一間Band 2學校.

我認為要看整体平均成績.

作者: hui916 時間: 09-12-3 21:49 標題: 回覆 6# waiwaibaba 的文章

張祝珊雖然谷成績有些過火, 但我認識的張祝珊畢業的同學都是超級勤奮的人, 能付出比常人多幾倍的努力, 事業容易成功, 這是學校培養的良好作風.

幾個張祝珊的朋友, 都成為非常成功的專業人仕, 其中一個仲成為副局長.

作者: Passerby 時間: 09-12-3 21:54 標題: 回覆 74# PMma 的文章

I don't see any problems of transferring from one school to another school. Many parents in BK are looking for opportunities to transfer their kids to a better school. Would you say they have problems?

By the way, I do know quite a number of students they are studying in these so-called "all-round" excellent schools are really all-rounders. They are elite class students, Grade 8 or even diploma in musical instruments and sports teams' members.

作者: dvb 時間: 09-12-3 22:11

原帖由 PMma 於 09-12-3 21:27 發表
As far as I know, even in the so called "all-round" excellent schools, the students there are not "all-round" themselves.
Very often, these famous schools "import" students with special talents in ...

That is also what I believe. The school is all-round but not every student. Maybe only very few are really all-round.

I don't believe that one can perform excellent in many aspects. At most two, three is unlikely. If one is considered excellent in many aspect, that means he is not excellent at all.

作者: dvb 時間: 09-12-3 22:20

原帖由 fsforth 於 09-12-3 20:59 發表
我都唔信HKCEE成績, 不過, 我係指就算有"A"都唔代表真係叻, 只要有正常智商, 有心讀書既要有14分其實不是難事

I don't think 14 is difficult at all. 14 should be the minimum. Good parents' kid should have more than 14 no matter which school the kid goes to.

作者: dvb 時間: 09-12-3 22:32

原帖由 daisy17772 於 09-12-3 18:52 發表
I have heard for some years ago that SSCPS's secondary section is not famous for its academic results. It's not new news. What I heard is the current Principal is trying to improve the results and ...

It''s better not to expect the results will be improved so much. If it happens, SSC may not be SSC.

Strong academic results is not the culture of SSC, I think. Even if the school fee is so high, SSC will not give you strong academic results. It should be something else.

It seems that a school doesn't need much money to "produce" students with good academic result.

作者: dvb 時間: 09-12-3 22:43

原帖由 littlemak 於 09-12-3 18:39 發表
fsforth,
i agree,
high cost of school fee and boarding fee, far from home site, .........
applying for pri school mainly for having the through-train sec school. but if (i mean, if ) the sec school i ...

Go to SSCPS, then SSC, then very good academic result.

If you think like that, SSCPS may not be your cup of tea.

Of course, it is difficult to say whether SSC will have very good academic results 10 years later or will be much more famous. The world keeps changing a lot.

作者: daisy17772 時間: 09-12-3 22:53

原帖由 dvb 於 09-12-3 22:32 發表

It''s better not to expect the results will be improved so much. If it happens, SSC may not be SSC.

Strong academic results is not the culture of SSC, I think. Even if the school fee is so high, ...

I'm not sure what you mean about the "culture".  But I do hear from parents there saying there are more homeworks than before, and they said the principal wants to make improvements, and her intentions could be interpreted from the principal's report.

But I believe the phenomena is if parents want their children to have strong academic results (within the framework of HK exams system), most likely SSCPS is not their first / second choice.  Parents would rather choose those gov't aided traditional schools but with above average exam results if they fail to get admitted to those top DSS schools.  Examples would be st. stephen's girls, St. paul's catholic, st. canossa, Wah Yan, etc.

Why are there still so many parents sent their children to SSCPS?  So this school still has its own niche.

作者: sheep30 時間: 09-12-3 23:03

大家如要各校較新的會考成績，可參考以下網頁：

http://life.mingpao.com/htm/hkcee/cfm/hkcee1.cfm?File=2009book_index.htm

你可參考09年學校有的中六學額，在第一階段是否可以填滿，第一階段學校只能收本校夠14分學生，而一般學生夠14分都會在原校升讀中六，所以該數字對學校有多少夠14分學生極具參考價值。

每年放榜，第一收生階段完結後，所有subsized and government school 都要把這數字上網，方便學生在第二階段找學校，以免浪費學位，所以該數字相當可靠。

一般來説，一線的band 1 學校都會在第一階段收滿生，第一階段後剩餘中六學額一欄應全部為零。

作者: 7up 時間: 09-12-4 01:27

原帖由 hui916 於 09-12-2 18:03 發表
以下是一些今年會考奪A統計(資料來源：星島日報，各校網頁)

L.S    390A/273人    人均1.42A
SPCC  366A/166人    人均2.20A
DBS 350A/ 234人人均 1.49A
QC    292A/196人    人均1.48A

手上沒有DGS ...

I have DGS 2008 HKCEE result
DGS 2008 309A/142人人均2.18A
for english 74 girls got 5* level

作者: hui916 時間: 09-12-4 08:59 標題: 回覆 1# 7up 的文章

Looking at the figures, in terms of average number of "A" attained, only DGS is on a par with St. Paul Co-ed. But some said that DGS has far better result in English.

作者: bakusensei 時間: 09-12-4 09:44

原帖由 sheep30 於 09-12-3 23:03 發表
大家如要各校較新的會考成績，可參考以下網頁：

http://life.mingpao.com/htm/hkcee/cfm/hkcee1.cfm?File=2009book_index.htm

你可參考09年學校有的中六學額，在第一階段是否可以填滿，第一階段學校只能收本校夠14分學生，而一般學生夠14分都會在原校升讀中六，所以該數字對學校有多少夠14分學生極具參考價值。

每年放榜，第一收生階段完結後，所有subsized and government school 都要把這數字上網，方便學生在第二階段找學校，以免浪費學位，所以該數字相當可靠。

一般來説，一線的band 1 學校都會在第一階段收滿生，第一階段後剩餘中六學額一欄應全部為零。
..

agree that 09年學校有的中六學額，在第一階段是否可以填滿極具參考價值. but ve to take into at least the following two factors:

- no. of F.6 seats vs no. of F.5 seats (i.e how many ppl competing for how many seats?)
- overseas study factor .

作者: judy 時間: 09-12-4 09:46

原帖由 7up 於 09-12-4 01:27 發表

I have DGS 2008 HKCEE result
DGS 2008 309A/142人人均2.18A
for english 74 girls got 5* level

我見過更好嘅年份有400A左右，平均2.8A。

作者: bakusensei 時間: 09-12-4 09:50

原帖由 wunma 於 09-12-3 17:22 發表
沒聽過這傳說, 但一班43人, 冇可能全班拔尖.

其實最弄人嘅係中英文要C或以上, 不少人7,8個A獨欠中文科唔達標就不能拔尖, 好可惜.

this is actually similar to the past practice of CU taking "暫取生" or offering "firm offers" based on HKCEE results in the 90s. We also needed to have C or above in both English and Chinese in order to skip F.7 and enter CU in F.6. (and that's why more than 1/3 of the class in my Year 1 had A in HKCEE English and Chinese)

btw, i think the 傳說全班拔尖, is referring to the F.6 class but not the F.5 class (should be around 30-35, right?)

[ 本帖最後由 bakusensei 於 09-12-4 09:51 編輯 ]

作者: judy 時間: 09-12-4 09:50

原帖由 dvb 於 09-12-3 22:20 發表
I don't think 14 is difficult at all. 14 should be the minimum. Good parents' kid should have more than 14 no matter which school the kid goes to.

都唔係咁講，全港大約3成學生能拿到14分，比band1比例仲低。

作者: kaifu 時間: 09-12-4 10:01

Were you one of them? Same here.

原帖由 bakusensei 於 09-12-4 09:50 發表

this is actually similar to the past practice of CU taking "暫取生" or offering "firm offers" based on HKCEE results in the 90s. We also needed to have C or above in both English and Chinese in orde ...

作者: kaifu 時間: 09-12-4 10:11

Assuming that most parents here are looking for primary schools at this stage, then it may not be very relevant to pay too much attention to the HKCEE results of secondary schools. HKCEE and HKAL will become history in just a matter of years.
By the time our children are applying for F.1, there should be several years of NSS exam and university admission track records in all different secondary schools for our reference. It may be a completely different game. Some traditional schools may not be able to keep their names while some other schools may be performing very well under the NSS curriculum.

[ 本帖最後由 kaifu 於 09-12-4 10:12 編輯 ]

作者: hui916 時間: 09-12-4 10:15 標題: 回覆 1# kaifu 的文章

因為當年中大80年代到90年代初的暫取生, 導致與港大之間的收生競爭出現了翻天覆地的變化, 後來才有六校聯招. 接著又推出尖子計劃, 將6A以上的學生提早錄取.

非常讚成大學四年制. 香港A-Level是全世界最難的試. 但大部份人容都無用, 白白浪費兩年時間. 多一年大學, 有利一個人的全方位發展, 終身受益.

三年大學大短了, 第一年要適應, 第三年要搵工, 真工讀書及亨受大學生活的時間不多.

作者: bakusensei 時間: 09-12-4 10:22

原帖由 kaifu
於 09-12-4 10:01 發表
Were you one of them? Same here.

well, I was offered "firm offer" and enjoyed 4 happy years in CU. :)

原帖由 hui916
於 09-12-4 10:15 發表
因為當年中大80年代到90年代初的暫取生, 導致與港大之間的收生競爭出現了翻天覆地的變化, 後來才有六校聯招. 接著又推出尖子計劃, 將6A以上的學生提早錄取.

非常讚成大學四年制. 香港A-Level是全世界最難的試. 但大部份人容都無用, 白白浪費兩年時間. 多一年大學, 有利一個人的全方位發展, 終身受益.

三年大學大短了, 第一年要適應, 第三年要搵工, 真工讀書及亨受大學生活的時間不多

Totally agree with hui916 “非常讚成大學四年制”!

作者: kaifu 時間: 09-12-4 10:35

How did you mean by "firm offer"? I got the provisional offer after HKCEE and had to pass some exams administrated by CUHK after F.6 in order to get the final admission. I remember we had to self-study Chinese language/literature for one of the exams. But I guess it was still better than taking the A-levels. By the way, we did not need to have at least 6As to get the provisional offer.

Yes, I had four great years at CUHK too.

[quote]原帖由 bakusensei 於 09-12-4 10:22 發表

well, I was offered "firm offer" and enjoyed 4 happy years in CU. :)

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作者: bakusensei 時間: 09-12-4 10:41

原帖由 kaifu
於 09-12-4 10:11 發表
Assuming that most parents here are looking for primary schools at this stage, then it may not be very relevant to pay too much attention to the HKCEE results of secondary schools. HKCEE and HKAL will become history in just a matter of years.
By the time our children are applying for F.1, there should be several years of NSS exam and university admission track records in all different secondary schools for our reference. It may be a completely different game. Some traditional schools may not be able to keep their names while some other schools may be performing very well under the NSS curriculum...

Kaifu, I also hope that there will be a completely different game after the introduction of NSS. But it seems that “老師的思維沒有改變”.

I knew some teachers assisted in the formulation of the NSS syllabus. 前陣子, 黃明樂出了一本《港孩》, 當中有篇幅探討NSS. I bought some copies of the book and sent to these teachersbut their response is

NSS 只是換湯不換藥 , syllabus本身只是~ to Cert + 少少AL.

再看那些所謂傳統名校及那些所謂地區名校所開的NSS科目, 誰在maximize 自己的公開試成績,
誰在積極保存現時老師的教席...........................

真心希望“新加的通識科”能帶來轉變, 只是少不免對同學們能否適應有所擔憂.

作者: hui916 時間: 09-12-4 10:41

當年中大師生為了保持四年制的理想, 發起了無數次的抗爭. 但港英政府還是在97前以財政及行政手段, 使中大屈服.

後來李國章擔任教育局長, 雖然樹敵甚多, 黯然下台, 但成功將全港所有大學改為四年制, 這是他最大的建樹.

334後, 香港的中學統一考試及大學入學會有什麼變化? 大家只能拭目以待. 應考科目會大大減少, 不會再會十優狀元. 會更注重學生的獨立思考, 創意及批判能力. 傳統名校能否繼續保持優勢? 有哪些學校高瞻遠矚, 已在為未來做準備?

原帖由 bakusensei 於 09-12-4 10:22 發表

well, I was offered "firm offer" and enjoyed 4 happy years in CU. :)

Totally agree with hui916 “非常讚成大學四年制”!

作者: bakusensei 時間: 09-12-4 10:44

原帖由 kaifu 於 09-12-4 10:35 發表
How did you mean by "firm offer"? I got the provisional offer after HKCEE and had to pass some exams administrated by CUHK after F.6 in order to get the final admission. I remember we had to self-st ...

well, may be we are from different "generation"

we didn't need to pass the exam administrated by CU after F.6. it seemed that we needed to at least perform not too bad in F.6. [but i still ve some fds playing the whole F.6 and enter PMM (medicine)) after F.6. but i didn't bother to ask if they passed all the subjects in F.6]

作者: rabbitpiggy 時間: 09-12-4 10:45

原帖由 judy 於 09-12-4 09:50 發表

都唔係咁講，全港大約3成學生能拿到14分，比band1比例仲低。

只有大約3成咁小???? 你是從那裡得知呢????

作者: judy 時間: 09-12-4 11:05

原帖由 rabbitpiggy 於 09-12-4 10:45 發表

只有大約3成咁小???? 你是從那裡得知呢????

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