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作者: daphnewong 時間: 09-11-30 16:20 標題: 想請問大家...如讀協恩幼稚園..對日後申請協恩小學有冇好處

知道現時協恩小學是政府派位的, 但在其幼稚園畢業的, 對日後想入讀有冇好處呢?謝謝!!!!!

作者: ctlmama 時間: 09-11-30 19:49

其實如果你唔係住個距一啲著數都冇，因要參加大抽獎！

原帖由 daphnewong 於 09-11-30 16:20 發表
知道現時協恩小學是政府派位的, 但在其幼稚園畢業的, 對日後想入讀有冇好處呢?謝謝!!!!!

作者: silvia_ng 時間: 09-12-1 00:16

原帖由 daphnewong 於 09-11-30 16:20 發表
知道現時協恩小學是政府派位的, 但在其幼稚園畢業的, 對日後想入讀有冇好處呢?謝謝!!!!!

協恩小學叩門位只offer比協恩幼稚園學生。

作者: jean2003 時間: 09-12-1 00:19

原帖由 daphnewong 於 09-11-30 16:20 發表
知道現時協恩小學是政府派位的, 但在其幼稚園畢業的, 對日後想入讀有冇好處呢?謝謝!!!!!

行外人一言...如果叩門完全矛...你信唔信先...

作者: ctlmama 時間: 09-12-1 09:34

冇錯！就算係有得叩門位，都係得幾個位，因政府規定。所以以往都係得40%kg學生可以入到小學，其他就要自己四圍去揾學校啦！哎~

作者: bakusensei 時間: 09-12-1 10:23

原帖由 silvia_ng 於 09-12-1 00:16 發表

協恩小學叩門位只offer比協恩幼稚園學生。

yes, exactly but technically there's no need for the parents to do the action "叩". HY kinder will ask the K3 kids to indicate whether they r interested in the P.1 places (including those already being allocated with a sub/gov't P.1 places under 自行 or already got accepted by DSS). Then, the principal of the primary section will "talk to/interview" those interested K3 kids who are not allocated to HY after the central allocation and identify suitable kids.

作者: carlew 時間: 09-12-1 10:56

問過我朋友(佢囡囡讀協恩kg),佢地唔係住响果區, 所以只有第一輪+叩門才可有機會入協恩小學, 但第一輪無收到佢囡囡(得15分,基本上無可能入到),希望叩門仲有機會啦! 點知.... 果年叩門位一個都無! 所以最終都係無得讀協恩小學!

原帖由 bakusensei 於 09-12-1 10:23 發表

yes, exactly but technically there's no need for the parents to do the action "叩". HY kinder will ask the K3 kids to indicate whether they r interested in the P.1 places (including those already be ...

作者: ctlmama 時間: 09-12-1 14:55

下咁佢點算呀？唔係第二輪可以再揀有機會入架咩？以為可以一條龍有學校幫佢地攪掂！點知~~

原帖由 carlew 於 09-12-1 10:56 發表
問過我朋友(佢囡囡讀協恩kg),佢地唔係住响果區, 所以只有第一輪+叩門才可有機會入協恩小學, 但第一輪無收到佢囡囡(得15分,基本上無可能入到),希望叩門仲有機會啦! 點知.... 果年叩門位一個都無! 所以最終都係無得讀 ...

作者: ctlmama 時間: 09-12-1 14:58

其實協恩如果轉咗做私校或者直資就會好啲，如果唔係都係冇行架啦！

原帖由 bakusensei 於 09-12-1 10:23 發表

yes, exactly but technically there's no need for the parents to do the action "叩". HY kinder will ask the K3 kids to indicate whether they r interested in the P.1 places (including those already be ...

作者: maylam2022 時間: 09-12-1 15:26

咁協恩會轉直資or私校嗎??

作者: bakusensei 時間: 09-12-1 15:34

原帖由 carlew 於 09-12-1 10:56 發表
問過我朋友(佢囡囡讀協恩kg),佢地唔係住响果區, 所以只有第一輪+叩門才可有機會入協恩小學, 但第一輪無收到佢囡囡(得15分,基本上無可能入到),希望叩門仲有機會啦! 點知.... 果年叩門位一個都無! 所以最終都係無得讀 ...

果年叩門位一個都無? so sad to hear that.

my fd's daughter entered HY thr the process I mentioned previously.

作者: giraffe1215 時間: 09-12-1 15:37

早排明報有講協恩計劃轉直資喎, 好似攪緊.

作者: coriejungfrau 時間: 09-12-1 16:02

原本以為佢可以直上,但原來唔係.我諗如果冇其他學校一條龍收,先會考慮佢.

作者: bakusensei 時間: 09-12-1 16:24

原帖由 giraffe1215 於 09-12-1 15:37 發表
早排明報有講協恩計劃轉直資喎, 好似攪緊.

協恩研轉直資後年定案
　　(星島日報報道)九龍城區知名女校協恩中學昨發表聲明，證實校董會已展開轉為直資辦學的可行性研究，預計在二○一一年有結論。該校教師對於日後薪酬與資助學校薪酬架構脫反應不一，家長則擔憂轉制後學費高昂。

　　校方稱校董會已於上周三議決展開可行性研究報告的諮詢工作，將先後諮詢教職員、學生、家長及舊生意見，預計於一一年二月完成研究。校方稱，轉制不會改變該校的辦學理念及傳統，並維持一貫以學生的學習態度及潛質作為收生標準，強調不會「為某一個階層服務」。

　　據了解，該校及其附屬小學的教職員對中學擬轉直資反應不一，年資較淺的教師認為轉制後薪酬按市場機制決定，調整空間較大，但部分資深教師則認為轉制後的公積金將轉為強積金，退休保障較為遜色，但他們的公積金已滾存多年，相信影響有限。有教師則擔憂日後經濟條件較差的學生入讀機會受影響。據悉，該校教師將選出教職員代表，向校董會反映意見。

　　協恩小學家長梁女士稱，擔心轉制後學費高昂會影響三年後升讀中學的女兒。

　　教育局回應稱，一直與有關學校保持緊密聯繫，了解該校正開始向持份者展開諮詢，在適當時候會提供協助。
2009-11-05

source:http://www.singtao.com/yesterday/edu/1105go03.html

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協恩收生質素低誘發轉直資

可行性研究料後年有結論

【明報專訊】傳統英中名校協恩中學研究轉直資，校董會昨日發表聲明，表示已展開可行性研究，期望於2011年2月前有結論。校內人士透露，協恩中學每年取錄大批非直屬小學的學生，質素難有保證，小部分學生水準之低更是「前所未見」，轉直資的其中一項考慮是取得收生自主權，確保中一收生質素。

協恩校董會昨日發表聲明，指上周展開轉直資的諮詢工作，先由教職員開始，之後將諮詢學生、家長及舊生。

校長劉李國建於家長教師會周年大會上說︰「為協恩中學長遠利益出發，校董會議決，認真探討轉制至直資的可能……暫時未有結論。」劉李國建接受查詢時表示，家長歡迎協恩研究轉為直資，「所有人均關心轉直資後的學費水平，家長亦不例外」，校方就轉直資一事，將與家教會保持溝通。

協恩中學5班中一取錄200名學生，直屬小學六年級只有3班約113人，就算中學全數取錄直屬小學學生，仍剩約80至90個學額取錄外校學生，收生水平難有保證。據校內人士透露，學生成績組別（Banding）由5改3後，就算Band 1學生差異都相當大，部分Band 1學生的水平，也不如舊制的Band 2生。

編班試中英數幾近「肥佬」

該校內人士透露，近年更有學生於中一編班試的成績，中英數都近乎「肥佬」，是協恩前所未見的低水平。除學業成績未如理想，部分學生的操行也「創歷史新低」。該校內人士同意，學校轉直資可享有收生自主，「學校不是挑選富有學生，而是挑選有誠意、水平合適的學生」。

強調轉制後「不是選富有學生」

校董會的聲明又指出，探討轉直資會堅守3項原則﹕「一個信念」——教育並非單為某一個階層服務，收生標準向來是考慮學生的學習態度和潛質；「一個堅持」——協恩珍惜及堅持一貫辦學理念及傳統，若轉直資，將會是「協恩式直資」；「一貫作風」——協恩重視所有持份者的溝通，諮詢對象是先中學後小學。

劉李國建拒絕透露近年學生公開試成績，擔心被誤會利用公開試成績宣傳。據2007/08學年學校報告顯示，協恩中學於會考及高考均成績優秀，平均每名學生有4.7科達A至C級。所有高考學生的中、英文科均及格，96%高考生所有學科取得第2級或及格以上成績。據學校統計，全數高考生畢業後繼續學業，包括升讀本地大學或到海外升學。

source:http://news.mingpao.com/20091105/gfa1.htm

[ 本帖最後由 bakusensei 於 09-12-1 16:28 編輯 ]

作者: qqbabe 時間: 09-12-1 16:50

2011先完成中學, 咁小學係未緊隨其後? 如果係34網, 係未直得博幼稚園扣門? 小學附屬既幼稚園一般比出面的程度淺(如宣道, 聖羅撒), 如果升唔番自己小學, 出去會唔會冇競爭力?

作者: ctlmama 時間: 09-12-1 16:50

其實佢都唔係咁好啫，人地民生衰極都收返85%幼稚園學生呀！

如果係協恩kg讀咗3年都唔收就真係慘啦！
其實每年都係得個60人畢業，以小學學位收晒佢地，都唔係咁難啫，仲有好多位可以俾其他人架！最慘就係收到一半都冇，真係令人傷心！

原帖由 bakusensei 於 09-12-1 16:24 發表

協恩研轉直資後年定案
　　(星島日報報道)九龍城區知名女校協恩中學昨發表聲明，證實校董會已展開轉為直資辦學的可行性研究，預計在二○一一年有結論。該校教師對於日後薪酬與資助學校薪酬架構脫反應不一，家 ...

作者: ctlmama 時間: 09-12-1 16:51

所以啲家長先心酸囉！

原帖由 qqbabe 於 09-12-1 16:50 發表
2011先完成中學, 咁小學係未緊隨其後? 如果係34網, 係未直得博幼稚園扣門? 小學附屬既幼稚園一般比出面的程度淺(如宣道, 聖羅撒), 如果升唔番自己小學, 出去會唔會冇競爭力? ...

作者: bakusensei 時間: 09-12-1 17:11

原帖由 qqbabe 於 09-12-1 16:50 發表
小學附屬既幼稚園一般比出面的程度淺(如宣道, 聖羅撒), 如果升唔番自己小學, 出去會唔會冇競爭力? ...

no, HY kinder's level is not low. I always find the Chinese words (my other fd whose girl is still in HY kinder, sticked all the words to the wall) they learnt are too difficult. my fd whose daughter entered HY P1 thr "so-called knocking the door" mentioned that the pressure of P.1 was even lower than K.3 as outside kids didn't ve level of HY kinder.

作者: bakusensei 時間: 09-12-1 17:14

原帖由 ctlmama 於 09-12-1 16:50 發表
其實佢都唔係咁好啫，人地民生衰極都收返85%幼稚園學生呀！

如果係協恩kg讀咗3年都唔收就真係慘啦！
其實每年都係得個60人畢業，以小學學位收晒佢地，都唔係咁難啫，仲有好多位可以俾其他人架！最慘就係收到一半都冇，真係 ...

i think it's not fair to compare gov't/subsided schools with private schools. Gov't/subsided schools do not have the right to choose the kids (except the so-called knocking the door phase). 50% of kids from 自行 (i.e. sibings, religion, alumini.....) and 50% of kids from "lucky draw" (i.e. mostly location).

作者: bakusensei 時間: 09-12-1 17:18

Even though the kids are only applying for K1, it is still good for us to be familar with the "rules of the game".

Sincerely hope you mums would spare some time to read:

http://www.edb.gov.hk/FileManager/TC/Content_1511/2010lftc.pdf

and

http://www.edb.gov.hk/FileManager/TC/Content_1579/bilingual_c_4paged.pdf

Even though the policy may change from time to time, mostly is 換湯不換藥.

作者: ctlmama 時間: 09-12-1 23:08

算啦！如果係咁不如讀其他學校，可能仲有機會入添，其實我絕對唔會俾我小朋友咁冒險，幼稚園來說佢都唔係我杯茶！

作者: bakusensei 時間: 09-12-2 09:34

原帖由 qqbabe 於 09-12-1 16:50 發表
2011先完成中學, 咁小學係未緊隨其後? 如果係34網, 係未直得博幼稚園扣門? 小學附屬既幼稚園一般比出面的程度淺(如宣道, 聖羅撒), 如果升唔番自己小學, 出去會唔會冇競爭力? ...

talking about 競爭力, would like to share another case I know in HY kinder. The girl's mum didn't apply any DSS (as didn't want to give up the chance for lucky draw- they live in net 34), but applied for 4 private primary schools as back-up. This girl did not attend any interest class. Her mum was not a "早教媽媽", and didn't spend time to help her during her own revision of materials learnt in HY (v. busy mum). turned out she got all the 4 private schools' offer (i couldn't remember the details. just recalled that one was TL).

You may think that getting 4 private school offers may not be anything special. but i know quite a no. of kids from SC and KV, having taken more than a year's interview class, having lots of "Certificates" of various kinds of competition, having lots of "Certificates" of Music/Art/English.... etc interest class.......... still got 2 or 1 or even 0 offer (some even applied for more than 10 DSS and private schools!).

The most amazing part is this girl is a 年尾細女.

作者: eggmama 時間: 09-12-2 10:34

Cool

原帖由 bakusensei 於 09-12-2 09:34 發表

talking about 競爭力, would like to share another case I know in HY kinder. The girl's mum didn't apply any DSS (as didn't want to give up the chance for lucky draw- they live in net 34), but applie ...

作者: ctlmama 時間: 09-12-2 10:37

Are you teach in HY KINDER!

原帖由 bakusensei 於 09-12-2 09:34 發表

talking about 競爭力, would like to share another case I know in HY kinder. The girl's mum didn't apply any DSS (as didn't want to give up the chance for lucky draw- they live in net 34), but applie ...

作者: silvia_ng 時間: 09-12-2 11:00

我又覺得協恩幼稚園OK喎...

我有兩個朋友仔, 兩個女都係上年協恩幼稚園畢業, 一個叩返入協恩小學, 另一個考到DGS。

作者: bakusensei 時間: 09-12-2 11:01

原帖由 ctlmama 於 09-12-2 10:37 發表
Are you teach in HY KINDER!

haha... v. interesting guess.

I honestly think that HY kinder doesn't need to "do any promotion".

u can search my profile and easily find that my son is in LH PN and our target is Int'l school. If BK has function being able to trace back posts a bit eariler, u will also find that my husband is teaching in one of those "so-called elite and so-called famous" schools with over 100 years' history. [that's why I get lots of info of local school as many ppl asked me to ask my husband comments of school X, Y, Z..... and my church is v. big (that means w/ many ppl, studying in many different schools). I, myself, is just an "Ah 4" working in an office. (teachers r not so free to be able to "browse" BK so freq.)

In HK, it's "luckier" to ve a girl than a boy. u got much more choices and better chances.

I sincerely recommend u try the following:
1. through-train kinder linked w/ private school like SPK, GH, TL, SH (u don't need to worry like other parents in P.1 allocation as u still ve back-up);
2. if 1 is not possible, try those w/ subsided primary [at least u get better chance in "knocking the door stage"] but u ve to move to the school net of that subsided primary. (for Christian, HY and St Stephen's Girls is a gd choice)

Hope u find a suitable kinder for your girl :)

作者: linglingng 時間: 09-12-2 11:11

只係中學申請一條龍, 冇小學份.

作者: ctlmama 時間: 09-12-2 14:08

I THINK YOU MAY TEACH IN HY KINDER~~

原帖由 bakusensei 於 09-12-1 10:23 發表

yes, exactly but technically there's no need for the parents to do the action "叩". HY kinder will ask the K3 kids to indicate whether they r interested in the P.1 places (including those already be ...

作者: bakusensei 時間: 09-12-2 15:16

原帖由 ctlmama 於 09-12-2 14:08 發表
I THINK YOU MAY TEACH IN HY KINDER~~

你真的很有趣, as I mentioned bf:

原帖由 bakusensei
於 09-12-1 15:34 發表
果年叩門位一個都無? so sad to hear that.
my fd's daughter entered HY thr the process I mentioned previously.

on my previous post, 想提醒各07BB的父母, 2013已沒有直屬/聯繫的官立及津貼中小學, 現時維持直屬/聯繫關係的官立及津貼中小學,到時要麼結成一條龍, 要麼” 脫離關係”. 詳情請看iantsang 無私,用心及詳細的分析

http://forum.edu-kingdom.com/viewthread.php?tid=2154056&extra=page%3D6

這個資訊很重要, 除了St Stephen’s Girls已表態將會維持津貼及結龍外 (註: St Mary及天神嘉諾撒已與嘉諾撒聖瑪利書院結龍),其他直屬/聯繫的官津貼中小學 e.g. HY, 華仁, LS, Maryknott................甚至小學部是私立,中學部是津貼的PC, MS, TL. 都未表態何去何從. 所以現在看似很保險, 到時可能也是未知之數.

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