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作者: mimi2004 時間: 09-11-25 10:04 標題: 英華,男拔,喇沙點排名????
請指教?
作者: NAJ 時間: 09-11-25 10:09
1. 喇沙, 2. 男拔, 3. 英華
but the differences are not that big.
作者: lho 時間: 09-11-25 10:14
DBS & YWC (academic performance are similar for both in primary schools, the only difference is hardware), LS in my opinion comes after DBS & YWC.
作者: maglam1985 時間: 09-11-25 10:25
講錢, 梗係喇沙首選, 因為唔駛俾學費, 然後ywp, 最後dbs.
唔講錢, 首選dbs, 次選lsp, 最後ymp。
整體我會先揀lsp, 次選dbs, 最後ymp, 因為lsp唔駛俾學費又係好學校, 而且俾學費要俾足12年(6年小學同6年中學), 當然成績唔可以太差先得, 因為lsc唔會接收哂所有lsp嘅學生。
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作者: MimiCactus 時間: 09-11-25 12:43
心果句三間學校中, LS 和 DBS名氣差唔多, YW無辦小學幾十年, 係因為換地條件問題, 才可以開番小學, 所以其小學要用上七,八年時間才可以上番真正名校磅 (依家出名, 係因為中學緣故), 而且40網中有荔天, 瑪天威脅, 想突圍, 真係要幾年時間.
講材(財)雄偉略(舊生而言, 無論小學, 中學, 或入大學, 出甚至出來做事), 亦只有LS 和 DBS可以比併.
作者: aa120520 時間: 09-11-25 12:48
Of course 1. DB, 2. LS, 3. YW
作者: siufu 時間: 09-11-25 12:49
同喇沙拔萃比, 太抬舉了英華了吧?
原帖由 mimi2004 於 09-11-25 10:04 發表 
請指教?
作者: chunchunchu 時間: 09-11-25 12:49
1.男拔
2. 喇沙
3. 英華
作者: kansang 時間: 09-11-25 12:58
頗有同感.............
原帖由 siufu 於 09-11-25 12:49 發表
同喇沙拔萃比, 太抬舉了英華了吧?
作者: Unclejt 時間: 09-11-25 13:00
原帖由 MimiCactus 於 09-11-25 12:43 發表
心果句三間學校中, LS 和 DBS名氣差唔多, YW無辦小學幾十年, 係因為換地條件問題, 才可以開番小學, 所以其小學要用上七,八年時間才可以上番真正名校磅 (依家出名, 係因為中學緣故), 而且40網中有荔天, 瑪天威脅, 想 ...
作者: wynma 時間: 09-11-25 13:07
喇沙和男拔叮噹碼頭, 但英華同佢地距離很遠, 很遠......
作者: Crabmeatsoup 時間: 09-11-25 13:26
Absolutely! Total different categories.
我無仔﹐唔係好熟男校詳情。但我覺得﹐一般人都覺得英華同另外兩間頂級名校比﹐在名氣上﹐ 真的差太遠了。
原帖由 wynma 於 09-11-25 13:07 發表
喇沙和男拔叮噹碼頭, 但英華同佢地距離很遠, 很遠......
作者: Piaget 時間: 09-11-25 14:19
Agreed.
1) DBS
2) LS
3) YW
DBS & LS 同級數。但個人認為 DBS 水平略高。
而 YW 則屬次一級的。但也是很不錯的學校。
原帖由 Crabmeatsoup 於 09-11-25 13:26 發表
Absolutely! Total different categories.
我無仔﹐唔係好熟男校詳情。但我覺得﹐一般人都覺得英華同另外兩間頂級名校比﹐在名氣上﹐ 真的差太遠了。
作者: mcheung1 時間: 09-11-25 14:33 標題: 回覆 7# siufu 的文章
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作者: Jusma 時間: 09-11-25 14:48
1. DBS
2. LS
3. YW
作者: weiwai 時間: 09-11-25 14:56
佢地3間中學嘅academic result邊間好d呀
作者: catcatmom 時間: 09-11-25 15:02
dbs 既英文叻好多, 會考有好多學生英文科攞a*, 而LS就數理科好過前者. 資料來源睇番佢地兩間學校既web.
而加年代係睇邊間外國名牌大學 or 本地讀咩野科係嗎? 先至容易搵工, 中學讀邊間係好重要嗎?
我朋友個女當年女拔唔收(中學果時係津貼,但運表格都唔比佢), 去左沙呂中,呂中主任見到朋友個女當寶, 握著我朋友隻手唔放. 前兩年尖子入香港u 讀專科.
原帖由 Piaget 於 09-11-25 14:19 發表
Agreed.
1) DBS
2) LS
3) YW
DBS & LS 同級數。但個人認為 DBS 水平略高。
而 YW 則屬次一級的。但也是很不錯的學校。
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作者: tracytang 時間: 09-11-25 15:03
Absolutely agreed
原帖由 wynma 於 09-11-25 13:07 發表
喇沙和男拔叮噹碼頭, 但英華同佢地距離很遠, 很遠......
作者: siufu 時間: 09-11-25 15:14
我只有近三年 10A 狀元數目..
1. 喇沙書院 - 8 個 (09 - 1 個, 08 - 4 個, 07 - 3 個)
2. 拔萃男書院 - 5 個 (09 - 2 個, 08 - 2 個, 07 - 1 個)
3. 皇仁書院 - 4 個 (09 - 1 個, 08 - 1 個, 07 - 2 個)
4. 拔萃女書院 - 3 個 (09 - 3 個, 08 - 無, 07 - 無)
5. 聖約瑟英文書院 - 3 個 (09 - 無, 08 - 1 個, 07 - 2 個)
原帖由 weiwai 於 09-11-25 14:56 發表
佢地3間中學嘅academic result邊間好d呀
作者: tak0clive 時間: 09-11-25 15:26
agree x2
原帖由 tracytang 於 25/11/2009 15:03 發表
Absolutely agreed
作者: smartmatt 時間: 09-11-25 15:27
原帖由 siufu 於 09-11-25 15:14 發表
我只有近三年 10A 狀元數目..
1. 喇沙書院 - 8 個 (09 - 1 個, 08 - 4 個, 07 - 3 個)
2. 拔萃男書院 - 5 個 (09 - 2 個, 08 - 2 個, 07 - 1 個)
3. 皇仁書院 - 4 個 (09 - 1 個, 08 - 1 個, 07 - 2 個)
4. 拔萃女書 ...
What are the averages?
作者: fsforth 時間: 09-11-25 15:35
雖然YW 名氣比較低
但係要入YW 都唔易, interview 困難程度跟DBS 有得揮
LS 只要你有爸爸呀哥係LS仔, 再住同一區就一定入
作者: siufu 時間: 09-11-25 15:38
"LS 只要你有爸爸呀哥係LS仔"
呢樣對好多人黎講先係最難...
原帖由 fsforth 於 09-11-25 15:35 發表
雖然YW 名氣比較低
但係要入YW 都唔易, interview 困難程度跟DBS 有得揮
LS 只要你有爸爸呀哥係LS仔, 再住同一區就一定入
作者: ysnmama 時間: 09-11-25 15:38
Where can you get that info? Thanks.
原帖由 siufu 於 09-11-25 15:14 發表
我只有近三年 10A 狀元數目..
1. 喇沙書院 - 8 個 (09 - 1 個, 08 - 4 個, 07 - 3 個)
2. 拔萃男書院 - 5 個 (09 - 2 個, 08 - 2 個, 07 - 1 個)
3. 皇仁書院 - 4 個 (09 - 1 個, 08 - 1 個, 07 - 2 個)
4. 拔萃女書 ...
作者: siufu 時間: 09-11-25 15:43
我自己在 Google 逐年 search 然後自己整理的, 太舊的真係找不到了.
原帖由 ysnmama 於 09-11-25 15:38 發表
Where can you get that info? Thanks.
作者: wunma 時間: 09-11-25 17:21
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作者: uarecheap 時間: 09-11-25 17:50
you are wrong.聖約瑟英文書院 with one 10A HKCEE in 2009
作者: fatgoat 時間: 09-11-25 17:55
論名氣，LS & DBS 當然勁過Ying Wah.
但我認為，LS小學同好幾間傳統名小學已經比人廢了一半武功，因為收生一半靠舊生(世襲)，一半係搞珠，新生基半上係無挑選過，收生平均水準可能仲差過TSL, 港同，英華，甚至播道呢d新準直資小學。
大家可以想像一下，2000個蘋果挑選150個同2000個蘋果隨機抽150個0既分別。
[ 本帖最後由 fatgoat 於 09-11-25 23:18 編輯 ]
作者: siufu 時間: 09-11-25 18:20
其實我唔相信六歲孩子能力及質素差異會好大, 而且部署得抽喇沙的應該都是願意用心栽培孩子的父母. 相信這些孩子和那些被私校/直資取錄的那些分別應該不大 (甚至有為數不少被私校/直資所取錄的學生如果抽中喇沙的話都會取喇沙而放棄私校/直資的學位).
原帖由 fatgoat 於 09-11-25 17:55 發表
論名氣，LS & DBS 當然勁過Ying Wah.
但我認為，LS小學同好幾間傳統名小學已經比人廢了一半武功，因為收生一半靠舊生，一半係搞珠，新生基半上係無挑選過，收生平均水準可能仲差過TSL, 港同，英華，甚至播道呢d新準直資小學。
大 ...
作者: waiwaibaba 時間: 09-11-25 18:33
原帖由 siufu 於 09-11-25 18:20 發表
其實我唔相信六歲孩子能力及質素差異會好大, 而且部署得抽喇沙的應該都是願意用心栽培孩子的父母. 相信這些孩子和那些被私校/直資取錄的那些分別應該不大 (甚至有為數不少被私校/直資所取錄的學生如果抽中喇沙的話都 ...
But in most cases - those elite kids accepted by DSS / private already denied the chance for lucky draw.
So usually those accepted thru lucky draw are those NOT accepted by good DSS /private - i.e only because they are lucky and that's why most subsidised school has elite class.
作者: 4in1family 時間: 09-11-25 18:35
每年LS都有人被勸喻離校，一間學校在收生上無主權，仍然維持高質素，有很多學生要付出代價的。人們看到的精英成績，又睇唔睇到其他沉底學生的慘況。每年仲會收好成績插班生...6歲人仔都可以分別好大..
原帖由 siufu 於 09-11-25 18:20 發表
其實我唔相信六歲孩子能力及質素差異會好大, 而且部署得抽喇沙的應該都是願意用心栽培孩子的父母. 相信這些孩子和那些被私校/直資取錄的那些分別應該不大 (甚至有為數不少被私校/直資所取錄的學生如果抽中喇沙的話都 ...
作者: waiwaibaba 時間: 09-11-25 18:41
原帖由 4in1family 於 09-11-25 18:35 發表
每年LS都有人被勸喻離校，一間學校在收生上無主權，仍然維持高質素，有很多學生要付出代價的。人們看到的精英成績，又睇唔睇到其他沉底學生的慘況。每年仲會收好成績插班生...6歲人仔都可以分別好大..
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Yes, I think this apply to essentially most, if not all, top-tier subsidised school eager to keep their reputation- St Jo also
作者: Oscarmom 時間: 09-11-25 18:55
I know one boy not accepted by any Dss or Private school not even have a chance for 2nd interview but luckily he got accepted by La Salle. However i think there will be some smart kids luckily got accepted by La Salle too.
原帖由 waiwaibaba 於 09-11-25 18:33 發表
But in most cases - those elite kids accepted by DSS / private already denied the chance for lucky draw.
So usually those accepted thru lucky draw are those NOT accepted by good DSS /private - i.e ...
作者: InitialD 時間: 09-11-25 20:17
My comment:
1. I know some not-smart one get to both DBS and YW by relationship.
2. I also know some non-smart one get to LS by lucky draw. "因為收生一半靠舊生，一半係搞珠". This is also not correct as you can check LS web site. ~ 40% in round 1 get more than 25 points. ie. less than 20% from 舊生.
3. All three schools will get rid of those below standard one at P6. (but not every year & keep on taking in good one). The school cannot kick the boys out unless has conduct problem. No parent will let their son go even the school asking.
4. DBS - if your grade cannot reach the min standard, you are not allowed to get to F.1.
5. LS- all the band 2 & 3 boys cannot get to F.1
6. YW - it just changed to DSS recently, no reference case.
7. For Ranking, DBS & LS are definitely better.
Anyways, it is good news if get a place among these schools.
原帖由 Oscarmom 於 09-11-25 18:55 發表
I know one boy not accepted by any Dss or Private school not even have a chance for 2nd interview but luckily he got accepted by La Salle. However i think there will be some smart kids luckily got acc ...
[ 本帖最後由 InitialD 於 09-11-25 20:28 編輯 ]
作者: hui916 時間: 09-11-25 21:56
大家不要只看會考狀元, 要看整体的成績和水平. 有收生自主權的直資學校, 如St. Paul Co-ed, DGS, DBS, 水準一直保持得唔錯.
但喪失收生自主權的華仁, LASA, 甚至皇仁, 成績已大幅下滑. 這是不爭的事實.
所以, 好的學校為了保持競爭力, 只能轉為直資, 這個趨勢將會持續下去.
作者: ryohga 時間: 09-11-25 22:31
It may not be the truth.
My son had given up TSL and private school offer in order to get a place in LS thro' lucky draw. As I known from the current classmates of my son, most of them had given up more than 1 offer in order to get in LS.
And, after performing the first term test, the Headmistress of LS noticed us from her experience that the average performance is very good this year. Nearly 90% kids getting B or above which may even be better than last year’s.
I believe that over 90% of kids that studying in LS are coming from the similar family profile of other DSS or private schools. For those families that are previous 'LS' members, most of their kids are very well prepared. They have not gone for the interview process of other schools just because they are not necessary, which not implies they are not capable. For those families that are going thro' lucky draw, they usually hold on hand more than 1 offers of other schools in order to ensure that they can put LS as the first priory during the draw. So, as fast as I know, the student profile is still very good in LS now.
I hope my information can explain the real situation to those parents who really want to choose LS for their kids.
原帖由 waiwaibaba 於 09-11-25 18:33 發表
But in most cases - those elite kids accepted by DSS / private already denied the chance for lucky draw.
So usually those accepted thru lucky draw are those NOT accepted by good DSS /private - i.e ...
[ 本帖最後由 ryohga 於 09-11-25 22:38 編輯 ]
作者: ratafan 時間: 09-11-25 23:23
I think most kids at the age of 5 or 6 are quite similar. It's really sad to label them as "smart" or
"bad" at this young age. Besides, while parents now still refer to public exams as reference, in reality, the secondary school curriculum has changed completely now. Next year is the last batch of students going through HKCEE. I wonder if the teachers in most local secondary schools are really qualified enough to conduct the NSS curriculum. What're your thoughts?
作者: jeremyphlam 時間: 09-11-26 10:27
原帖由 siufu 於 09-11-25 12:49 發表
同喇沙拔萃比, 太抬舉了英華了吧?
絕對同意！
作者: InitialD 時間: 09-11-26 10:34
同意！原帖由 jeremyphlam 於 09-11-26 10:27 發表
絕對同意！
作者: kuenkuenmum 時間: 09-11-26 12:05
原帖由 hui916 於 09-11-25 21:56 發表
大家不要只看會考狀元, 要看整体的成績和水平. 有收生自主權的直資學校, 如St. Paul Co-ed, DGS, DBS, 水準一直保持得唔錯.
但喪失收生自主權的華仁, LASA, 甚至皇仁, 成績已大幅下滑. 這是不爭的事實.
所以, 好 ...
Entirely agree.
1. DBS - Academic & conduct good
2. La Salle - Academic good
3. Ying Wa - Conduct good
作者: fairparent 時間: 09-11-26 12:29
1] dbs
2] LS
Ying Wah's not in the same league, sorry.
2009 DGS had 4 10As
AND 5 9As
nobody counted the 9As??
DBS had what 350As? and that very smart kid who got 10As in Arts Stream.
check the alumni for DBS, it's in a diff class.
also how many who got into EAS" BUT JIM" to HKU??? that is with 6As incl E,M,C and pass the interview....that is the mai aim of parenthood, U.
原帖由 smartmatt 於 09-11-25 15:27 發表
What are the averages?
作者: judy 時間: 09-11-26 12:57
原帖由 kuenkuenmum 於 09-11-26 12:05 發表
Entirely agree.
1. DBS - Academic & conduct good
2. La Salle - Academic good
3. Ying Wa - Conduct good
女子無才便是德，原來男仔都係。
作者: judy 時間: 09-11-26 13:03
that very smart kid who got 10As in Arts Stream.
佢考中、英、數、聖經、經濟、商業、会計、地理、歷史、普通話。點算文科生呢？
不過，係香港，真係冇幾間學校可以選科選到咁雜！
作者: wunma 時間: 09-11-26 13:14
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作者: wunma 時間: 09-11-26 13:18
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作者: Jen2008 時間: 09-11-26 15:55
There's no science subject at all, except the compulsory maths, of course it can be counted as Arts. You may term it as Arts/Commerce if you like.
It's likely that this student took 9 subjects at school and have the 10th self-study subject.
原帖由 judy 於 09-11-26 13:03 發表
佢考中、英、數、聖經、經濟、商業、会計、地理、歷史、普通話。點算文科生呢？
不過，係香港，真係冇幾間學校可以選科選到咁雜！
作者: bobbbby 時間: 09-11-26 17:10
以小學論，喇沙小學有幾十年歷史，拔萃男書院附屬小學同英華小學都只得幾年歷史，拔萃男書院附屬小學甚至未有學生係由小一開始讀到小六畢業，所以好難比較~~~
以中學論，喇沙同男拔鬥左幾十年，各項成績不相伯仲，互有輸贏，我諗可以講係分唔出高下，但係肯定兩間都係香港頂級名校~~~
作為一個K2學生家長，我想講o既係，出年我個小朋友會考拔萃男書院附屬小學同英華小學，但係根本無機會報／考喇沙，因為得十五分，第一階段機會係零，第二階段機會又接近零，而且要等到六月先知結果，已經無乜時間去補救，我又唔會搬去41區搏一個比較大（都係好微）o既機會~~~
原帖由 Unclejt 於 09-11-25 13:00 發表
As a matter of fact, the new YWPS is one year older than DBSPD.
作者: 小曳人 時間: 09-11-26 17:16
原帖由 bobbbby 於 09-11-26 17:10 發表
以小學論，喇沙小學有幾十年歷史，拔萃男書院附屬小學同英華小學都只得幾年歷史，拔萃男書院附屬小學甚至未有學生係由小一開始讀到小六畢業，所以好難比較~~~
以中學論，喇沙同男拔鬥左幾十年，各項成績不相伯仲，互有輸贏，我諗可 ...
same here..
如果YW同DBS都唔收, 但有私校收嘅, 我或者都會身痕報LS試吓有無運行嘅..
作者: Kanba 時間: 09-11-27 21:55
各有捧場客，拗來做咩？咁有本事三間都收令郎，去邊間都掂啦下話。
作者: ratafan 時間: 09-11-27 23:11
there's no more so called science stream and arts stream now. NSS is effective Sep 09. the school is very smart, they have already adapted to the new NSS before official implementation.原帖由 judy 於 09-11-26 13:03 發表
佢考中、英、數、聖經、經濟、商業、会計、地理、歷史、普通話。點算文科生呢？
不過，係香港，真係冇幾間學校可以選科選到咁雜！
作者: diversity 時間: 09-11-28 08:44
DBS ma, a very pragmatic school in "training up" 10As or winners in sports. The main role of students is to build up the school's reputation. You will be ignored if you are neither of those. Personally I am not quite a fan of this school for its style of education.
作者: 1116 時間: 09-11-28 10:50
原帖由 diversity 於 09-11-28 08:44 發表
DBS ma, a very pragmatic school in "training up" 10As or winners in sports. The main role of students is to build up the school's reputation. You will be ignored if you are neither of those. Personally I am not quite a fan of this school for its style of education.
agree!
作者: 1116 時間: 09-11-28 10:51
1. LS
2. DBS
YW 唔同 level！
作者: wantai 時間: 09-11-28 12:42
好多人都識LS同DBS呢兩間學校，相信一般人都唔會去比較邊間叻d既！都係係度讀既人先會著緊d啦！
DBS要去考先入到，擺到明要選d醒目仔入去再train。
而LS係計分同派位，學生來自四面8方，有可能level個個唔同。但學校都可以train到叻學生，真令人佩服！
不過可以入到呢兩間學校讀書既學生，都係要用功勤奮先可以追得上啦！
將會有好好既讀書氣氛！
作者: emanthon 時間: 09-11-28 13:27
我個人認為,拔萃和喇沙應該是叮噹馬顫,而英華則不在同一個量級內.
作者: jeremyphlam 時間: 09-11-28 13:42
原帖由 emanthon 於 09-11-28 13:27 發表
我個人認為,拔萃和喇沙應該是叮噹馬顫,而英華則不在同一個量級內.
My opinion:-
DBS=Co-ed=LS>YW=Paul's Boy=St. Stephen
作者: season_sincere 時間: 09-11-28 14:54
Well,
In terms of academic development
:
1. DBS=Co-ed
2. Paul's Boy=LS
3. YW=St. Stephen
In terms of good manner :
1. DBS=Co-ed=Paul's Boy
2. YW=St. Stephen
3. LS
(La Sallians have very bad manner, esp. those in secondary school, you might have to do more research on this aspect!)
In terms of whole reputation
(Including academic, extra-curriculum, amount of resources for students, etc.)
:
1. Paul's Boy=DBS=Co-ed=YW
2. St. Stephen=LS
作者: jeremyphlam 時間: 09-11-28 14:56
原帖由 season_sincere 於 09-11-28 14:54 發表
Well,
In terms of academic development :
1. DBS=Co-ed
2. Paul's Boy=LS
3. YW=St. Stephen
In terms of good manner :
1. DBS=Co-ed=Paul's Boy
2. YW=St. Stephen
3. LS
(La Sallians h ...
Funny ranking
作者: diversity 時間: 09-11-28 15:53
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作者: CFaHB 時間: 09-11-28 16:23
原帖由 siufu 於 09-11-25 12:49 發表
同喇沙拔萃比, 太抬舉了英華了吧?
agree 
作者: siufu 時間: 09-11-28 20:33
Yes, the rationale behind the ranking is funny because it is undoubtedly biased.
原帖由 jeremyphlam 於 09-11-28 14:56 發表
Funny ranking
作者: weiwai 時間: 09-11-28 22:38
agree!!!!!原帖由 siufu 於 09-11-28 20:33 發表
Yes, the rationale behind the ranking is funny because it is undoubtedly biased.
作者: hello0419 時間: 09-11-28 22:57
1.男拔
2. 喇沙
3. 英華YW 唔同 level！
[ 本帖最後由 hello0419 於 09-11-28 23:00 編輯 ]
作者: BenKeung 時間: 09-11-28 23:04
I wonder why many students from other primary can go to the secondary of LS, DBS. Does it mean that the secondary of LS and DBS have many S1 class or many students in one class.
作者: ukodelechan 時間: 09-11-28 23:47
原帖由 season_sincere 於 09-11-28 14:54 發表
Well,
In terms of academic development :
1. DBS=Co-ed
2. Paul's Boy=LS
3. YW=St. Stephen
In terms of good manner :
1. DBS=Co-ed=Paul's Boy
2. YW=St. Stephen
3. LS
(La Sallians h ...
I think the ranking is reasonable... Not really biased woh...
I know some parents from LS, and they also said LS boys are naughty ... Maybe the atmosphere is worse now.
作者: BenKeung 時間: 09-11-28 23:50 標題: 回覆 64# BenKeung 的文章
Hay, any parents can answer me the question? Thanks.
作者: Derek_Mum 時間: 09-11-29 00:03 標題: 回覆 47# bobbbby 的文章
I have very hard feeling during this P1 application, it should well prepare in K2.
And I have friend his son accepted by LS last year, and really hard for them in first year, and teacher suggested them to leave because examination not reach 90%, and he graduated from SC kindergarden!
作者: BenKeung 時間: 09-11-29 00:21
No pain no gain. But ask to leave from LS or DBS. This will be a great pain for both parents and kid. So, don't close your eyes to look for best school for your kid in P1. It may not be good.
again, no pain no gain. take care.
作者: diversity 時間: 09-11-29 11:12
原帖由 ukodelechan 於 09-11-28 23:47 發表
I think the ranking is reasonable... Not really biased woh...
I know some parents from LS, and they also said LS boys are naughty ... Maybe the atmosphere is worse now.
I think the 'manner' part should also include the virtue of being humble, which I will rank Coed much higher than DBS
, not sure about LS
作者: bobbbby 時間: 09-11-30 13:15
拔萃男書院中一學位有大約二百四十個，拔萃小學每級大約有六十幾人，所以以前一定會收好多其他小學學生，到左二零零四年開始，開左拔萃男書院附屬小學，每級有大約一百五十人，之後拔萃男書院就開始同拔萃小學脫龍，響過渡期間（今年係最後一年），拔萃男書院會收大部份拔萃男書院附屬小學同拔萃小學畢業生，所以中一學位只得好少位比其他小學六年級生爭。
原帖由 BenKeung 於 09-11-28 23:04 發表
I wonder why many students from other primary can go to the secondary of LS, DBS. Does it mean that the secondary of LS and DBS have many S1 class or many students in one class.
作者: moonychan 時間: 09-11-30 13:22
超級同意.
原帖由 siufu 於 09-11-25 15:38 發表
"LS 只要你有爸爸呀哥係LS仔"
呢樣對好多人黎講先係最難...
作者: wantai 時間: 09-11-30 13:44
其實都唔係太多家長著重個排名。LS同DS大家同樣都係一間好學校，有好既校舍同好既學習環境，最重要係可以教好個小朋友嘛！
兩間學校既水準都係好接近，兩間都係好多家長既dream school呀~
作者: wantai 時間: 09-11-30 13:47
原帖由 wantai 於 09-11-30 13:44 發表
其實都唔係太多家長著重個排名。LS同DS大家同樣都係一間好學校，有好既校舍同好既學習環境，最重要係可以教好個小朋友嘛！
兩間學校既水準都係好接近，兩間都係好多家長既dream school呀~ ...
係DBS先岩 <---- LS同DS大家同樣都係一間好學校
作者: mimi2004 時間: 09-12-17 01:07
Anymore comment???
原帖由 wantai 於 09-11-30 13:47 發表
係DBS先岩
作者: goodmama2003 時間: 09-12-17 11:11
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作者: Bilobi 時間: 09-12-17 11:58
First of all, I would like to say THREE are all very good schools with excellent achievements.
In the past, DBS and LS were considered equally good. However, as DBS has autonomy to select students, it will have better chance to maintain its standard.
For LS, some may say that as it remains the same, it would achieve equally good as before just because its LaSalle.
However, we should bear in mind that in the old days when all schools are "govt-subsidized", each school got equal probability of admitting "so-called" more competent pupils. As of now, those "more competent" students are absorbed by good schools like DBS & Ying Wa or even TSL & SFA, most of those participate in the lucky draw may be those not having offers in hand. (Of course, there're a few cases that parents give up "good offers' with a dream to LS but I believe these should be very rare cases!)
I'm not here to criticise any schools or to comment on the quality of any students (all in all they are just 6 yr old kids). This is just an analysis out of facts and logics.
For YW, it's a very enthusaistic school. I know lots of quality parents and kids taking its offer. I believe YW will high fly as DBS and esp. as LS in the years to come.
作者: Cherishvalue 時間: 09-12-17 12:06
在現有制度下，只有LS仍能維持津貼， 這份堅持或風骨實在令人佩服！ 畢竟DBS/YW 都是要家長掏腰包嘛！
同意沒有最好的學校，家長應該選擇最適合你跟你孩子的學校， 所謂比較實在沒什麽意思。
作者: ipod1 時間: 09-12-17 12:37
First of all. I am a La Salle parent.
Your comment is based on the assumption that the kids selected by the DSS schools are generally smarter and will always stay smarter in the years to come. But these assumptions are unfounded. Just because the kid fails in a 15 minute interview doesn't mean he cannot improve. To our kids, it is just the beginning of a 42km marathon and we just passed the 1 km mark.
What really puzzles me is a common opinion here in BK that students in DSS schools is a class above the Govt/Subsidized ones. No matter it is LS or YW or DBS or Co-ed, it is a good school only if your kid can receive good teaching yet enjoys his/her school life.
作者: ipod1 時間: 09-12-17 12:47 標題: 回覆 77# Cherishvalue 的文章
你說"風骨"這字, 讓我想起數星期前在報章看到某著名男校中學部接受一位爺爺數以千萬計的捐款. 而這位爺爺的孫兒正在小學部就讀. 照片上校長接收爺爺的捐款令我想到這盤生意真難做.
作者: Cherishvalue 時間: 09-12-17 13:00
我想你误会了我的意思， 我所说的風骨是指天主教学校不为政府政策所动而已， 当然有此能耐， 强大的old boy 支持绝不可少。
但你把这二字套用到下面捐款可不敢认同， 爷爷捐款给孫兒学校有问题吗？ 如果我有千万家财要捐， 捐给学校好让孫兒有份享受可是理所当然！
家长或old boy 捐款绝非下述著名男校中學部独有！
原帖由 ipod1 於 09-12-17 12:47 發表
你說"風骨"這字, 讓我想起數星期前在報章看到某著名男校中學部接受一位爺爺數以千萬計的捐款. 而這位爺爺的孫兒正在小學部就讀. 照片上校長接收爺爺的捐款令我想到這盤生意真難做. ...
[ 本帖最後由 Cherishvalue 於 09-12-17 13:05 編輯 ]
作者: hui916 時間: 09-12-17 13:01 標題: 回覆 1# ipod1 的文章
以我個人及身邊朋友參考, 香港大部份的中產階層, 比較有經濟能力, 但不一定是富裕的這個階層, 大部份都將子女送到直資或私校. 這是在目前不公平的派位制度下, 無可奈何的選擇. 把子女的命運交給大抽獎, 會派到什麼學校? 這個風險太大了!
直資及私校, 對學生及家庭都篩選過, 出現問題學生及家庭的機會比較小.
如果有獨立的收生權, 對收生質素沒有提高, 那麼多的一級名校, 如SPCC, DGS, DBS為什麼要相繼轉直資? 而官津校中, 可以保持成績的只有LS, 皇仁, 張祝珊.
據聞天主教學校都不太願意轉直資, 因這與其宗教理念相違背. 他們認為應該有教無類.
作者: ipod1 時間: 09-12-17 13:25 標題: 回覆 80# Cherishvalue 的文章
Sorry if I misinterpreted your meaning. However, if I had 10 millions to donate to a school, I wouldn't need such publicity.
作者: gingerale 時間: 09-12-17 13:39
甚麼叫公平的派位制度﹖ 難道幼稚園都要呈分教育局用作小學派位﹖其實四五歲的小朋友差距有多大﹖ 大抽獎是上等人﹐中產﹐低層﹐人人機會均等。出名的直資或私校呢﹐只是負擔得起的才會報名﹐但如果小朋友面試不講話﹐沒禮貌﹐哪怕父母是誰﹐收的機會肯定比大抽獎抽到好學校還要低﹐ 真的不知道什麼教作公平了﹖
話說回來﹐拿DBS和LS來排名﹐實在沒什麼意思。
大學排名有人專門收集數據來做都常常被質疑﹐港大現在的校長是中大畢業的﹐中大下一任校長是港大畢業的﹐你說到底中大好D還是港大好D﹖也許LS的老師有DBS畢業的﹐DBS的老師也有LS畢業的。 小學中學的所謂排名﹐主要是個人觀感和道聽途說而已﹐只會引起雙方家長的爭拗。
原帖由 hui916 於 09-12-17 13:01 發表
以我個人及身邊朋友參考, 香港大部份的中產階層, 比較有經濟能力, 但不一定是富裕的這個階層, 大部份都將子女送到直資或私校. 這是在目前不公平的派位制度下, 無可奈何的選擇. 把子女的命運交給大抽獎, 會派到什麼學 ...
[ 本帖最後由 gingerale 於 09-12-17 13:53 編輯 ]
作者: Cherishvalue 時間: 09-12-17 13:45
Regarding publicity, how about Mr. Li's donation to HKU medical school? How about 歡樂滿東華?
Giving thanks for others' generosity is nothing to do with 風骨！
原帖由 ipod1 於 09-12-17 13:25 發表
Sorry if I misinterpreted your meaning. However, if I had 10 millions to donate to a school, I wouldn't need such publicity.
作者: ipod1 時間: 09-12-17 13:55
原帖由 hui916 於 09-12-17 13:01 發表
以我個人及身邊朋友參考, 香港大部份的中產階層, 比較有經濟能力, 但不一定是富裕的這個階層, 大部份都將子女送到直資或私校. 這是在目前不公平的派位制度下, 無可奈何的選擇. 把子女的命運交給大抽獎, 會派到什麼學 ...
家長有能力讓子女入讀直資或私校當然沒有問題. 但我想說的是讀官校或津貼的不一定是差一些的學生吧? BK有些家長甚至稱呼那些剛轉直資學校的高年級學生(他們入學時學校為津貼)為瘀血. 無奈的是此等意見充斥著BK....
作者: ipod1 時間: 09-12-17 14:10
原帖由 Cherishvalue 於 09-12-17 13:45 發表
Regarding publicity, how about Mr. Li's donation to HKU medical school? How about 歡樂滿東華?
Giving thanks for others' generosity is nothing to do with 風骨！
捐款當然係好事, 受助者多謝捐款人亦很應該. 但多謝到上報紙除了捐款人愛出風頭外, 我實在想不到其它原因.
作者: hui916 時間: 09-12-17 14:26 標題: 回覆 2# ipod1 的文章
如果首輪自願收生可以入到好旳官津校, 當然係好事. 可以省下很多學費. 但我唔讚成等待第二輪大抽獎. 這與等中六合彩無分別.
真人真事, 我有一個做醫生的朋友, DBS舊生, 住九龍塘, 舊年以為個仔入梗男拔. 所以只報咗一間直資/私校, 點知連男拔第二輪面試冇. 唯有參加大抽獎. 但由於九龍塘區人數太多, 竟然派到去黃大仙一間唔知什麼學校.
所以, 唔好以為九龍塘區就入硬LS, Maryknoll. 這區年年超額, 因太多人用其地址, 很多被分派到其他區.
作者: vienpa 時間: 09-12-17 14:36
原帖由 hui916 於 09-12-17 13:01 發表
以我個人及身邊朋友參考, 香港大部份的中產階層, 比較有經濟能力, 但不一定是富裕的這個階層, 大部份都將子女送到直資或私校. 這是在目前不公平的派位制度下, 無可奈何的選擇. 把子女的命運交給大抽獎, 會派到什麼學 ...
直資在學生及家庭質素上會高一點, 但教師質素亦很重要, 現時如LS, MCS, St. Joseph, St. Mary's, Queen's, Marymount, Belilios...等仍是如舊一樣好成績..
直資那三數間說來還是DGS, DBS, SPCC, St. Paul Convent, ...其他就未見上到top band 1 級數, 反而部分地區津貼名校會考成績幾已可上頂級之列, 所以學校整體管理及教師質素對學生發展仍佔上很大比例..
直資只是教育制度下無奈的產品, 好與不好, 還要看多幾年...
作者: Kanba 時間: 09-12-17 16:56
請名校的家長指點一下，名校為小朋友帶來什麼？
－課程深一些？
－校內競爭大一些？
－補習風氣多一些？
－自信心強一些？
－學習愉快些？
最明顯不過是對母校歸屬感大一些罷。為自己／子女的學校自豪也好，不必看扁其他學校。
同一所好學校，同一樣的老師，同班同學之間成績也可以大有分別。讀書不能全部依靠學校，最終還是看自己（幼童看父母的投入）。將相本無種，孩兒當自強。
作者: VKwan 時間: 09-12-17 17:40
原帖由 hui916 於 09-12-17 14:26 發表
如果首輪自願收生可以入到好旳官津校, 當然係好事. 可以省下很多學費. 但我唔讚成等待第二輪大抽獎. 這與等中六合彩無分別.
真人真事, 我有一個做醫生的朋友, DBS舊生, 住九龍塘, 舊年以為個仔入梗男拔. 所以只報咗 ...
作者: fishman10hk 時間: 09-12-17 20:49 標題: 回覆 89# Kanba 的文章
Kanba 提出了很多值得思考的問題, 就先探討一下補習風氣吧, 敢問各位歷盡艱辛, 送到子女進入名校大門的家長, 是否必定為子女安排各項補習呢?
問題就是, 到底名校與補習班何者較重要? 現今若祇讀名校而無任何補習是否還能在名校生存?
剛才各位曾討論過的那些10A, 9A的頂級學生, 他們當中有多少個是完全沒有到補習班"谷"呢? 既然有的話他們所得的煇煌成績是否也應將部份功勞歸給補習班, 而非由名校獨享? 還有, 各位家長你們背後所作的努力呢?
既然學生考取到好成績是包含很多元素, 我們還有需要討論邊一間名校成績好一點嗎? 是好學校不就行了嘛?
本人純粹路過湊湊熱鬧, 絕非對任何名校存有偏見, 事實上本人亦非常仰慕如DBS, LS等好學校. 衹是見到大家的討論都有建設性, 參與一下而已.
作者: papa_pop 時間: 09-12-18 00:27
This year, I guess it should be: LS > YW > DBS - for table-tennis, inter-school, boys. In fact, they are quite close (you may also need to include SPCC in the last 2 years), and it really depends on individual boys in that particular year. Well, if you are not talking about table-tennis, I don't see how one would compare the three schools.
作者: Cherishvalue 時間: 09-12-18 09:38
If "捐款當然係好事, 受助者多謝捐款人亦很應該" what's wrong to have the press to make it known to the public?
Personally I prefer something nice instead of gossip reported in the paper wo!
不想針鋒相對， 只是不想我的原意 －欣賞天主教學校的意思被曲解！
原帖由 ipod1 於 09-12-17 14:10 發表
捐款當然係好事, 受助者多謝捐款人亦很應該. 但多謝到上報紙除了捐款人愛出風頭外, 我實在想不到其它原因.
[ 本帖最後由 Cherishvalue 於 09-12-18 09:40 編輯 ]
作者: wunma 時間: 09-12-18 10:30
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作者: bobbbby 時間: 09-12-18 10:47
我都好懷疑尼件"真人真事"，DBSPD今年先改收生制度，舊制度之下，第一輪面試佔35分(%)，舊生多10分，正常情況下，無乜可能會入唔到第二輪面試，咁當然入到第二輪面試而唔收，都有好多．．．但係改制前，我未聽過有男拔舊生o既小朋友係入唔到第二輪面試，可能我識得男拔舊生少~~~
原帖由 hui916 於 09-12-17 14:26 發表
真人真事, 我有一個做醫生的朋友, DBS舊生, 住九龍塘, 舊年以為個仔入梗男拔. 所以只報咗一間直資/私校, 點知連男拔第二輪面試
冇. 唯有參加大抽獎. 但由於九龍塘區人數太多, 竟然派到去黃大仙一間唔知什麼學校.
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作者: ipod1 時間: 09-12-18 11:12
原帖由 Cherishvalue 於 09-12-18 09:38 發表
If "捐款當然係好事, 受助者多謝捐款人亦很應該" what's wrong to have the press to make it known to the public?
Personally I prefer something nice instead of gossip reported in the paper wo!
不想針鋒 ...
問題並非捐款本身. 而是捐款人的孫兒仍在小學就讀. 爺爺卻高調捐款.
這和舊生事業有成後回饋母校而讓傳媒報導, 有根本上的分別. 如果我是那個爺爺, 我仍會捐款給學校但卻不會讓孫兒知到. 更遑論高調上報紙.
作者: traeh 時間: 09-12-18 11:30
咁有幾奇? 如果其他小朋友真係好標青, 又或者舊生細路真係唔係學校杯茶, 多10分都無用.
我都識SPCC舊生, 係專業人事, 送埋細路去著名幼稚園, 最後考SPCC都一樣無second int.
原帖由 bobbbby 於 09-12-18 10:47 發表
我都好懷疑尼件"真人真事"，DBSPD今年先改收生制度，舊制度之下，第一輪面試佔35分(%)，舊生多10分，正常情況下，無乜可能會入唔到第二輪面試，咁當然入到第二輪面試而唔收，都有好多．．．但係改制前，我未聽過有男拔舊生o既小朋友係入唔到 ...
作者: mypang 時間: 09-12-18 12:23
Agree... 有教無類...
原帖由 hui916 於 09-12-17 01:01 PM 發表
以我個人及身邊朋友參考, 香港大部份的中產階層, 比較有經濟能力, 但不一定是富裕的這個階層, 大部份都將子女送到直資或私校. 這是在目前不公平的派位制度下, 無可奈何的選擇. 把子女的命運交給大抽獎, 會派到什麼學 ...
作者: 1116 時間: 09-12-18 23:00
原帖由 Cherishvalue 於 09-12-17 12:06 發表
在現有制度下，只有LS仍能維持津貼， 這份堅持或風骨實在令人佩服！ 畢竟DBS/YW 都是要家長掏腰包嘛！
同意沒有最好的學校，家長應該選擇最適合你跟你孩子的學校， 所謂比較實在沒什麽意思。
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agree！
作者: hkspiderman 時間: 09-12-19 01:36
英華只係我地d 平民覺得好, 起d 醫生, 律師眼中根本唔入流.
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