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標題: 老公是喇沙舊生,仔仔申請喇小﹙喇沙小學﹚會否分加? [打印本頁]
作者: fion_yinyin 時間: 09-11-2 11:31 標題: 老公是喇沙舊生,仔仔申請喇小﹙喇沙小學﹚會否分加?
好想知道啊其實,有無父母可以答到我啊?
到埋加分既意思係「自行分配﹙小學﹚學位」加分?定係「統一派﹙小學學﹚位」時會加分?
同埋點解話住埋同一個校網又會著數d?
請好心人解答我啦,因為搞到我頭都大埋。thanks~~
作者: candy_kent 時間: 09-11-2 11:43
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作者: ziyi 時間: 09-11-2 11:48
計分是在自行分配學位階段先有,佔其中50%學額,但當中60%(即全部學額的30%)優先給世襲生(有哥哥在讀未畢業那種/父母在校工作的),計分的只保証餘下的學額
統一分配就是大抽獎,佔餘下的50%,但如果世襲生超過30%學額,就會抽取統一分配的學額滿足世襲生要求,變成大抽獎學額減少
大抽獎學額中的10%(即全部學額的5%)給全港一起競爭 - 跨區,其餘只給該校網的申請
你老公是否喇沙小畢業生,如果只是喇沙中畢業,沒有分加
而且只是喇沙小畢業,加上是家中第一個小朋友,總分也只有25分,應該在自行分配時夠分入
原帖由 fion_yinyin 於 09-11-2 11:31 發表 
好想知道啊其實,有無父母可以答到我啊?
到埋加分既意思係「自行分配﹙小學﹚學位」加分?定係「統一派﹙小學學﹚位」時會加分?
同埋點解話住埋同一個校網又會著數d?
請好心人解答我啦,因為搞到我頭都大埋。thanks~~ ...
[ 本帖最後由 ziyi 於 09-11-2 11:52 編輯 ]
作者: catcatmom 時間: 09-11-2 11:48
小學畢業有10分, 中學畢業已沒有讀小學,就沒有.
原帖由 candy_kent 於 09-11-2 11:43 發表 
hi fion
第一輪才會計分, 唔理住區, 揀邊間都得, 第二輪係抽獎形式, 唔計任何分數, 只跟你住果區派位.
如你老公係小學既舊生, 係第一輪你可以用父母係該校畢業生, 就會多10分. 但假如係中學畢業生既, 未必可以 ...
作者: fion_yinyin 時間: 09-11-2 11:54
「只是喇沙小畢業,加上是家中第一個小朋友,總分也只有20分,應該在自行分配時都唔夠分入」咁死得啦,我老公只是喇沙舊生咋。
咁就算我搬埋過去同一個校網住,咁個機會咪好微law。咁點解我好多同事係個bb升小既時候都搬屋既?
作者: wootaitai 時間: 09-11-2 11:57
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作者: ziyi 時間: 09-11-2 11:59
sorry, 記錯了
原帖由 wootaitai 於 09-11-2 11:57 發表 
First born + alumni is same category. Only 20 pts in this case.
If you are catholic then you add 5pts and you are quite safe
作者: fion_yinyin 時間: 09-11-2 11:59
係咩?好似首名子女同小學舊生唔係同一個加分條件黎嫁﹗
無理由為左入小學無拉拉信教喎,係道德層面黎講............
作者: fion_yinyin 時間: 09-11-2 12:06
ziyi你記錯d乜?
作者: fion_yinyin 時間: 09-11-2 12:14
想問多樣:咁中學舊生個身份幾時至有用?
作者: candy_kent 時間: 09-11-2 12:16
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作者: candy_kent 時間: 09-11-2 12:18
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作者: candy_kent 時間: 09-11-2 12:23
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作者: fion_yinyin 時間: 09-11-2 12:27
我老公只係喇沙舊生,唔係小學舊生啊。
咁即係只得20分?即係低分?
咁即係我仔仔係自行分配學位到無著數啦?
咁咪即係要搬屋黎增加機會?唉.......好煩惱啊﹗咁多位有咩建議俾我提高入喇小機會啊?
咁喇沙舊生身份會唔會提高仔仔入中學時自行分配學位既機會啊?
好多謝咁多位解答啊﹗
作者: CHP 時間: 09-11-2 12:39
你話"喇沙舊生"即係喇沙中學舊生? 咁同無關係人士一樣得15分(假設你冇宗教). 你都唔係今年考生, 唔洗咁煩住. 慢慢睇多d先啦.
原帖由 fion_yinyin 於 09-11-2 12:27 發表 
我老公只係喇沙舊生,唔係小學舊生啊。
咁即係只得20分?即係低分?
咁即係我仔仔係自行分配學位到無著數啦?
咁咪即係要搬屋黎增加機會?唉.......好煩惱啊﹗咁多位有咩建議俾我提高入喇小機會啊?
咁喇沙舊生身份會唔會提高仔 ...
作者: jaycee_mami 時間: 09-11-2 12:49
喇沙這些超級名校, 有20分都唔穩陣, 報定幾間私校吧.
作者: ziyi 時間: 09-11-2 13:07
當左首名及畢業生不同line,可同時用
原帖由 fion_yinyin 於 09-11-2 12:06 發表 
ziyi你記錯d乜?
作者: 小謙伯伯 時間: 09-11-2 13:50
唔好意思,正因為你位先生是 fellow LaSallian (LSC),我反而好有興趣知道點解你的 family 咁緊張仔仔入讀喇小(理所當然希望日後一條龍入讀中學)。是你一廂情願還是你先生的心願呢?
可能時代不同了,在我那個年代,LSC 可說是最最「自由」的「名校」,也是學生們在學術上最「自求多福」的名校。這原本沒甚麼不妥,但我總覺得 fellow LaSallian 有了切身的體驗後,對下一代是否應該秉承這種自求多福的精神一般都會是誠惶誠恐的,不像會有這種志在必得的緊張。
作者: jaycee_mami 時間: 09-11-2 15:08
原帖由 小謙伯伯 於 09-11-2 13:50 發表 
唔好意思,正因為你位先生是 fellow LaSallian (LSC),我反而好有興趣知道點解你的 family 咁緊張仔仔入讀喇小(理所當然希望日後一條龍入讀中學)。是你一廂情願還是你先生的心願呢?
可能時代不同了,在我那個年代,LSC 可說 ...
這就是爸爸和媽媽的不同之處!
我作為媽媽, 很明白那種"志在必得的緊張".
作者: charwes 時間: 09-11-2 17:49
其實唔係太明你文中意思... 喇沙 old boys 大多熱愛母校, 想自己下一代都可如自己般受母校教育應該係人之常情吧..
原帖由 小謙伯伯 於 09-11-2 13:50 發表 
唔好意思,正因為你位先生是 fellow LaSallian (LSC),我反而好有興趣知道點解你的 family 咁緊張仔仔入讀喇小(理所當然希望日後一條龍入讀中學)。是你一廂情願還是你先生的心願呢?
可能時代不同了,在我那個年代,LSC 可說 ...
作者: charwes 時間: 09-11-2 17:52
如只是 LSC old boy 而非 LSPS old boy 是沒有分的, 如果你仔仔是大仔, 並無宗教分的話, 咁應該只有 15 分, 要 1st round 入的話機會等如零.
原帖由 fion_yinyin 於 09-11-2 12:27 發表 
我老公只係喇沙舊生,唔係小學舊生啊。
咁即係只得20分?即係低分?
咁即係我仔仔係自行分配學位到無著數啦?
咁咪即係要搬屋黎增加機會?唉.......好煩惱啊﹗咁多位有咩建議俾我提高入喇小機會啊?
咁喇沙舊生身份會唔會提高仔 ...
作者: fion_yinyin 時間: 09-11-3 08:20
oh,咁即係喇沙中學舊生身份無用。即係要搬屋同等d無把握的大抽獎?
唉....香港既教育制度玩死人咩﹗
咁如果我自行分配學位明知無機都填喇小,跟住統一派位又填喇小做首選,好有誠意喇掛,咁入讀喇小機會唔會唔大d?
同埋老公喇沙中學舊生會唔會幫到仔仔入喇沙中學既機會大d?因為我知道升中都會有自行分配學位
作者: ziyi 時間: 09-11-3 10:35
誠意分的作用只在叩門時有用,通常名校的叩門位都非常少,而名校通常派到都唔會放棄.所以叩門位只是教育局容許的10% of 正常學額
以大班教學是30人一班,及小班25人為準,平均2~3人 x 學校開多少班
因我的是囡囡,所以唔知道La Sa開多少班,當4班也只有10~12個叩門位
你想想有多少人競爭!
原帖由 fion_yinyin 於 09-11-3 08:20 發表 
oh,咁即係喇沙中學舊生身份無用。即係要搬屋同等d無把握的大抽獎?
唉....香港既教育制度玩死人咩﹗
咁如果我自行分配學位明知無機都填喇小,跟住統一派位又填喇小做首選,好有誠意喇掛,咁入讀喇小機會唔會唔大d?
同埋老公喇 ...
作者: traeh 時間: 09-11-3 10:58
誠意好多人都有,係喇沙呢D大熱學校,叩門時只有誠意,係無乜用的.升中玩法又唔同,爸爸係舊生幫助不大.
爸爸多D返去參加母校活動,多D同與學校關係較好,或對學校較有影響力的舊同學及老師聯絡,將來叩門時或者仲有少少用.咁講可能好功利,但如果咁想仔仔入母校,亦都應該返去了解下學校現時情況啦.
原帖由 fion_yinyin 於 09-11-3 08:20 發表 
oh,咁即係喇沙中學舊生身份無用。即係要搬屋同等d無把握的大抽獎?
唉....香港既教育制度玩死人咩﹗
咁如果我自行分配學位明知無機都填喇小,跟住統一派位又填喇小做首選,好有誠意喇掛,咁入讀喇小機會唔會唔大d?
同埋老公喇 ...
作者: fion_yinyin 時間: 09-11-3 12:23
我都知叩門位好少,多謝ziyi你既資料啊
其實老公都係返去參加d old boy basketball team咋,無乜特別
中學玩法又唔同?有無人知點玩法啊?乜野條件會令升心儀中學著數d?
作者: 已刪除用戶 時間: 09-11-3 12:37
中學第一輪可選1or2間中學, 要睇成績, 面試同其他表現, 每間學校都可以自set criteria(例如成績與面試表現比例, 運動表現重唔重要等)
第一輪如果有幸interview(絕大部分學校有interview), 都知自己有個希望, 如果有interview round但小朋友未被邀請, 都應該心裡有數了
跟住有第2round抽籤, 同揀小學差唔多, 不過今次計埋學生banding(由小5及小6呈分試成績決定)
要過晒2round至知結果(即學校就算第一round已取錄學生, 學生都唔會知, 一樣要填表抽獎), 如果派位唔理想, 之後都一樣可以叩門
學生可以同時投考心儀私立同直資中學, 都係同小學一樣, 考到直資同埋註冊就要放棄政府派位, 私校就無此規定, 另外, 有d私校會有政府派位
(知個大概咋...........我女讀一條龍直資, 應該唔駛煩升中)
原帖由 fion_yinyin 於 09-11-3 12:23 PM 發表 
我都知叩門位好少,多謝ziyi你既資料啊
其實老公都係返去參加d old boy basketball team咋,無乜特別
中學玩法又唔同?有無人知點玩法啊?乜野條件會令升心儀中學著數d? ...
作者: fion_yinyin 時間: 09-11-4 12:58
多謝你啊Charlotte_mom,好詳細啊﹗
咁即係講到尾中學舊生無著數啦............!!!
其實我都有諗過報直資,但12年都要俾貴d學費,驚小數怕長計呢
作者: anxiousparent 時間: 09-11-4 13:43
原帖由 charwes 於 09-11-2 17:49 發表 
其實唔係太明你文中意思... 喇沙 old boys 大多熱愛母校, 想自己下一代都可如自己般受母校教育應該係人之常情吧..
The answer is very simple. and it does not only apply to LSC, but to a lot of "traditional" famous schools such as DBS, St. Jo, Wah Yan, Maryknoll, etc.
traditional famous schools tend to rely a lot of their students' own motivation to study (plus, in the good old days when they could still select their own students, there was a minimum guarantee for the quality of their students). The schools do not actually add a lot of value to the students.
Nowadays, traditional famous schools cannot choose their own students (unless they have gone private or DSS) and a lot of old boy or old girl parents are worried about the "dilution" effect of the quality of the classmates (not about whether they are rich or poor, but about whether the academic progress would be slowed down because the ability is so diverse). And, having gone through the "system" themselves they will know that the school does not add value, and it actually takes a lot of hard work by the kids themselves in order to excel (and, with it, pressure which old boys/girls do not want their kids to go through again). They realise that in this day and age the safe bet is to depart from the traditional system and go to international schools.
This has nothing to do with school spirit or loyalty, old boys and old girls can still be very loyal and supportive of their old school, for the support and education they have received in the past. that does not mean that they would want their kids to go through it again. And a lot of people do not want their kids to be the guinea pig of 3-3-4. Plus, many of these schools (and the education system) have changed a lot. liking the school as it WAS is not the same as wanting kids to go there as it IS.
I think this is a correct understanding of the meaning of the thread. I am sorry to have to write it out so bluntly. Go and ask a lot of the alumni of these famous schools and I am quite sure you will find that a lot of them (and i DO mean A LOT) think in this way.
It is of course nice if alumni can continue the heritage of their school through their family, but the system in HK is causing alumni to think otherwise. This is no bad thing, because those who have "been there" may think that they do not need to "label" of their old school to give their kids success. Spaces in their old school can be given to those who have not yet "been there". This can be regarded as part of the upward mobility of HK society.
This is nothing against the schools; just something against the system.
[ 本帖最後由 anxiousparent 於 09-11-4 14:00 編輯 ]
作者: traeh 時間: 09-11-4 14:57
I agree that is what 小謙伯伯 means.
But on the contrary, I think those traditional famous schools DO add some values to the students.
They provide the environment for positive peer influence and set a standard, both academic and moral, for the students to follow and achieve.
On academic side, sometimes children (and parents) might not realize how far they can go if not given the opportunity and guidance.
On moral side, this is especially important when parents' influence might diminish when the kids get older.
IS might not be everyone's best choice. The school fee, the Chinese standard, the culture......and once you put your kid in IS, it would be very difficult to turn back to local system.
On the other hand, non-famous schools do not equal to "easy curriculum" and "lower academic requirements". They may have even higher pressure to push the kids into band one standard in order to get into good secondary schools.
原帖由 anxiousparent 於 09-11-4 13:43 發表 
The answer is very simple. and it does not only apply to LSC, but to a lot of "traditional" famous schools such as DBS, St. Jo, Wah Yan, Maryknoll, etc.
traditional famous schools tend to rely a ...
作者: anxiousparent 時間: 09-11-4 16:42
原帖由 traeh 於 09-11-4 14:57 發表 
I agree that is what 小謙伯伯 means.
But on the contrary, I think those traditional famous schools DO add some values to the students.
They provide the environment for positive peer influence and set ...
I agree that International Schools may not be the best choice and traditional famous schools can, to some extent, provide a good environment in terms of peer influence, sense of pride/belonging, etc. But my purpose is not to decide whether these are right views or wrong views. I am only trying to explain the reason why it is perfectly possible (indeed very often the case) that graduates of famous schools decide NOT to let their kids go back to the same system. You can say they are right, or they are wrong, but that is the way A LOT of them think.
which gives a lot of food for thought ....
作者: traeh 時間: 09-11-4 17:10
True. So the most important thing is to make an informed choice when choosing schools.
原帖由 anxiousparent 於 09-11-4 16:42 發表 
I agree that International Schools may not be the best choice and traditional famous schools can, to some extent, provide a good environment in terms of peer influence, sense of pride/belonging, etc ...
作者: fion_yinyin 時間: 09-11-5 10:36
我諗又唔可以完全抹殺一d所謂名校既工夫既,而我亦都同意有d人所講「幫仔女選中學其實係幫佢選同學同學生家長」。如果成班既學習氣氛係好既話,會形成一種正動力,學生會自動自覺溫習,造成一個良性循環。
再者,新聞報道咩咩十優/八優+2科5*多數都係出自名校,咁你話家長又點會唔想仔女入呢d學校呢
作者: anxiousparent 時間: 09-11-5 10:43
原帖由 fion_yinyin 於 09-11-5 10:36 發表 
我諗又唔可以完全抹殺一d所謂名校既工夫既,而我亦都同意有d人所講「幫仔女選中學其實係幫佢選同學同學生家長」。如果成班既學習氣氛係好既話,會形成一種正動力,學生會自動自覺溫習,造成一個良性循環。
再者,新聞報道咩咩 ...
I do not think I disagree, in that "famous schools" create an atmosphere which motivates the students to push themselves. this is what the phrase 「自求多福」is supposed to mean (I think). But in terms of being able to add value in terms of better quality teachers (who are able to attend to the needs of students etc etc), well ..... one phrase- 自求多福
作者: traeh 時間: 09-11-5 10:59
Yes, and that is true to all schools, doesn't matter if it is famous or not.
And different parents might have different expectation on teachers. So the same teacher will have very different comments from different parents with different views (and, of course, different kids).
[quote]原帖由 anxiousparent 於 09-11-5 10:43 發表
......But in terms of being able to add value in terms of better quality teachers (who are able to attend to the needs of students etc etc), well ..... one phrase- 自求多福[quote]
作者: ha8mo 時間: 09-11-5 11:18
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作者: fion_yinyin 時間: 09-11-5 14:55
點解我唔明ha8mo想講乜?
作者: 已刪除用戶 時間: 09-11-5 15:27
佢講緊喇沙唔駛交學費, 但設施勁正, 拍得住國際學校呀原帖由 fion_yinyin 於 09-11-5 02:55 PM 發表 
點解我唔明ha8mo想講乜?
作者: ziyi 時間: 09-11-5 15:33
我想他的意思是La Sa硬件超好 (中小學合共78,790平方米),一般新直資(中小學)合共才12000平方米,足足6間直資的規模
為了軟(師資/校友網絡)硬(學校環境/設備),就算小朋友唔合適,如果有offer下一定要仔仔入讀
可惜我生的是囡囡
原帖由 fion_yinyin 於 09-11-5 14:55 發表 
點解我唔明ha8mo想講乜?
作者: fion_yinyin 時間: 09-11-6 14:34
i see
咁喇沙同喇小又真係超大喎
喇沙入面有swimming pool同個室外運動場,係好多學校都無既設施啊
你睇下淨係呢d硬件已經勝人一籌啦,家長又點會唔心動?
作者: ha8mo 時間: 09-11-6 17:54
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作者: ziyi 時間: 09-11-6 19:03
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我仍舊要說,可惜我那個是女孩子
同La Sa沒有緣
原帖由 ha8mo 於 09-11-6 17:54 發表 
女仔冇得講啦
但對於男仔而言
係冇唔合適既小朋友
只有唔好彩抽唔中既小朋友
你地唔好俾D吃不到葡萄既友仔嚇親啦
記住喇沙小學只係一間中文小學
同其他小學一樣有課堂、默書、測試、考試
細路仔幾歲人,個個都係有玩 ...
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